Re: [libreoffice-design] Re[2]: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the design meeting 2018-Sep-05

2018-09-11 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
ion during training sessions ;-) So, I'd strongly vote to keep (and fix) the personas thingy and against having only solid themes. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing

Re: [libreoffice-design] Agenda for the design/UX meeting 2018-Sep-12

2018-09-11 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
. Is it not what the menu Data > More filters > Reset filter does already? All the best, -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines

Re: [libreoffice-design] Banner for AMA and 6.1 release

2018-08-05 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
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Re: [libreoffice-design] Banner for AMA and 6.1 release

2018-08-04 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
is awful). And yes, "LibreOffice" is smallish. So, to summarize: -- increase "LibreOffice" font size a little -- consequently, move the "AMA meets" line slightly down to leave both line "breathe" -- increase the version number font size -- move the "1&

Re: [libreoffice-design] Design for t-shirt ..

2016-02-13 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
well? I understand these question have probably been discussed elsewhere but I didn't notice the threads in due time, it would seem. Sorry if I'm beating a dead horse. Have a good week-end, -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffic

Re: [libreoffice-design] Improving printing UX

2015-09-15 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
So I prefer to focus on education / directing users to the proper knowledge, place, rather then adding hacks that make the work flow and places to set stuff (see the phases 1-5 in my previous mail) even more look like spagetti. Just my 2#.. +1 -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- To unsubscri

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-23 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
want to emphasize is the *need* for documentation and that asking for a *no text* template is in many occurences plain wrong. IOW, providing a template without documenting it is stupid. HTH, -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker - Bordeaux -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-23 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
/translating/ won't do the trick because the visual aspect of the template is culturally defined and *can't* be translated: it has to be thoroughly rethought which is a whole job by itself. Any other word is pure verbiage. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker - Bordeaux -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-23 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
nationally-rooted details? OMG! Did you *actually* have a look a MS templates? They CAN'T (sorry for shouting) be used as they are in any other context than an american one. Just ask any graphical spacialist. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker - Bordeaux -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-23 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
. Translation is a side job for this matter. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker - Bordeaux -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-22 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
as a starting point? My 2 cents, -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker - Bordeaux -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-22 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
difficulties. Launching the contest *is* creating difficulties. Let this be a joyful moment for community participation! Leading where? (asking is answering) Anyway, I'll stop ranting as this is not appreciated 'round here ;-) All the best, -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker - Bordeaux

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-22 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

2014-12-22 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Hi Kevin, Le 22/12/2014 14:46, Kevin Suo a écrit : I think you may be interested in this feature request then: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86483 \o/ -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker - Bordeaux -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http

Re: [libreoffice-design] IMPORTANT: Changing our workflow

2014-09-04 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
too manage the mails using Thunderbird and I also think fora to be a poor tool for exchanging (JBF has already stated the drawbacks). -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing

Re: [libreoffice-design] Who on Earth is the LibO installation target?

2014-02-17 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Hello, it's been 10 days since my first msg was posted. No take on this? Apart from Astron inquiring about the French curly apostrophe and a few (positive) individual comments, this msg didn't receive any feedback from the powers-that-be. As I said: Le 08/02/2014 15:30, Jean-Francois Nifenecker

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Who on Earth is the LibO installation target?

2014-02-10 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
don't understand that reasoning. /o\ -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Who on Earth is the LibO installation target?

2014-02-10 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Who on Earth is the LibO installation target?

2014-02-10 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Le 11/02/2014 07:42, Jean-Francois Nifenecker a écrit : I can't give actual numbers for French but a hard guess would be around 100 to 1. The apostrophe comes everytime the article Le (mascusline) or La (feminine) is placed in front of a noun or adjective that starts with a vowel

[libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Who on Earth is the LibO installation target?

2014-02-09 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
ideas or confirm some of the ones you had already. Well, what I'm writing is about FR installs, though some common denominator could be found between languages (Stylist and Navigator come to mind). -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr

[libreoffice-design] Who on Earth is the LibO installation target?

2014-02-08 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
is shooting oneself in the foot. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: The Sidebar Problem

2014-02-07 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
to this question is John Doe. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List

Re: [libreoffice-design] Controversial topics for the start center

2013-11-25 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
suggests that Writer is the word to retain :) -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Controversial topics for the start center

2013-11-25 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
menu LibreOffice entries. Cons: longer text. --- 8 Thanks again, -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Start Center

2013-11-14 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
time figuring that New Spreadsheet will lead them to Calc. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http

Re: [libreoffice-design] Start Center

2013-11-12 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
, to avoid clobbering people with LibreOffice logo #2 in just a few seconds (splash screen being the first one). Well done. Thanks again for attempting at a better UI. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Final summary of last Libreoffice icon test

2013-04-27 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
(this is why I'm still using the former name during training sessions). Back to the Navigator: sorry, I can't think to any other word than Navigator. I guess some more imaginative soul will jump in. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Experimental new LibreOffice UI

2013-04-16 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
showing on the new left panel) This is the most clever way for advanced styles users [1] to get rid of all those clumsy toolbars at once. Well done. [1] anyone wanting to be efficient using a word processor should be taught about styles *only*. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux

Re: [libreoffice-design] We recommend LibreOffice banner

2013-03-27 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Le 27/03/2013 14:10, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : Sorry to be a pain... I hear we ought to have the words: We recommend in French: Nous recommandons -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http

Re: [libreoffice-design] New 4.0 icon set?

2013-03-01 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
to me. My 2 euro-cents, -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive

Re: [libreoffice-design] Flat/Symbolic Icons Update

2013-02-19 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
icon, but well... -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive

Re: [libreoffice-design] RE: What Happened to the Flat Icon Set

2013-02-16 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
most of it), but I relly liked the idea. I do, too. I like the current flat icon set in Thunderbird 17. Neat and clear. It would be nice to have such an alternative in LibO. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org

Re: [libreoffice-design] LO 4 banner idea

2013-02-04 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
! -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: LO Writer UI Analysis

2013-02-02 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
: With power users I meant those that use a particular program to a higher extend than other. Same here. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Icon help for LibreOffice v.4.0 features website page

2013-02-02 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Hello Marc, Le 02/02/2013 12:36, Marc Paré a écrit : Forgot to mention that the changes are done on the page. \o/ -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: LO Writer UI Analysis

2013-02-01 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
the personality of the user vs ribbon or menu interesting. +1 -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: LO Writer UI Analysis

2013-02-01 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
(to their wrists) and, more importantly, breaks the workflow. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: LO Writer UI Analysis

2013-02-01 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Le 01/02/2013 18:31, Jean-Francois Nifenecker a écrit : At a training tart start -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how

[libreoffice-design] 4 4.0 branding polls and votes

2013-01-31 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
preference, but it obviously goes to some Free tool :) Well... 4 is 3 too many, don't you think so? As all this can only lead to frustration, I'd suggest to start all that again from scratch on a dedicated page somewhere with clear and precise instructions. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux

Re: [libreoffice-design] Icon help for LibreOffice v.4.0 features website page

2013-01-31 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
understood logotype. I think some others could have the same flooding imagination, thus specifying Logo language instead of Logo might be clearer. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get

Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-design] Re: A new old branding?

2013-01-19 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http

[libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart

2012-11-13 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
to switch tools more quickly. What do you think? Do I miss something? Note that this is just an idea. I have to-day no clue to what the Word shortcuts are vs Writer ones. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart

2012-11-13 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
of Writer shortcuts so that a Word power user finds his/her usual way of use without the need to learn yet another shortcut set. (BTW, ISTR that I had a proposal for a A4 3-fold refcard.) -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org

[libreoffice-design] [Writer] Header/footer deletion from the UI

2012-10-28 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
on his document. But, of course, this operation should be undoable (which it is not currently). Thanks for your comments, -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how

Re: [libreoffice-design] Document Saved indicator

2012-06-03 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
that *I* personally touch always enable the save icon. Obviously there are some personal variations with experiences here. Anyway, the save action should trigger some feedback when it is done. The button disabled or toolbar message both convey that information. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker

Re: [libreoffice-design] Redesigning the Design page

2012-04-27 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Le 27/04/2012 20:46, Andrew Pullins a écrit : I like it, I say implement it Mirek. +1 -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting

Re: [libreoffice-design] questions about the status bar

2012-04-25 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
this out, you usually choose the template you like without ever caring about it's name. The person looking at the presentation is not always the creator. There, I can see the template chosen by the author, then decide to change to something else. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux

Re: [libreoffice-design] questions about the status bar

2012-04-25 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Jean? That option is ok for me. The point is to make the information visible when a document is signed, without any user interaction. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help

Re: [libreoffice-design] questions about the status bar

2012-04-24 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
this. Yes: disambiguation. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List

Re: [libreoffice-design] Writer background image - contest! :-)

2012-04-23 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
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Re: [libreoffice-design] Writer background image - contest! :-)

2012-04-23 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
, they should be directed to the Draw module. * Styles and formatting (1) People using styles know what they are doing and have heard about F11, and (2) they usually set this once and for all. * Increase/Decrease paragraph margins Use styles instead :) I know of no-one who use these. -- Jean-Francois

[libreoffice-design] Proportional cropping of images

2012-04-11 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
a simple way of changing dimensions proportionaly. That checkbox state should be recorded. This has annoyed me since the very beginning when I got to use OOo 1.1. Would the change be a big deal? Thanks for your attention, -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E

[libreoffice-design] New member

2012-04-08 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
to Clonezilla Live doc and also to the OpenStreetMap project. CU soon, -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http