Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-03 Thread Roth Robert via desktop-devel-list
On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 2:31 AM wrote: > On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 5:57 PM, Bastien Nocera > wrote: > > Seriously Michael, you’re embarrassing yourself. > > I don't feel very embarrassed. Your suggested alternative name, "main," > is clearly considered to be offensive by at least one of the very

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-03 Thread mcatanzaro
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 5:57 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote: Seriously Michael, you’re embarrassing yourself. I don't feel very embarrassed. Your suggested alternative name, "main," is clearly considered to be offensive by at least one of the very same people who don't like "master," and who

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-03 Thread Matthias Klumpp
Am Fr., 3. Mai 2019 um 15:36 Uhr schrieb Carmen Bianca Bakker : > > Je ven, 2019-05-03 je 14:45 +0200, Bastien Nocera skribis: > > [...] > > If we agree that the "master" in the git branch name is the same > > "master" that's used in "master copy" meaning "the original", "the one > > medium that

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-03 Thread Bastien Nocera
> On 4 May 2019, at 00:29, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: > >> On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 5:09 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote: >> - And to what? >> A few possible names were mentioned/used. "mainline" was thought to >> have strong connections to drug use, "release" (use in the contributor >> covenant)

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-03 Thread mcatanzaro
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 5:09 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote: - And to what? A few possible names were mentioned/used. "mainline" was thought to have strong connections to drug use, "release" (use in the contributor covenant) seems to restrictive (we also do releases from other branches). I like

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-03 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Fri, 2019-05-03 at 15:35 +0200, Carmen Bianca Bakker wrote: > Je ven, 2019-05-03 je 14:45 +0200, Bastien Nocera skribis: > > > > > If we agree that the "master" in the git branch name is the same > > "master" that's used in "master copy" meaning "the original", "the > > one > > medium that

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-03 Thread Carmen Bianca Bakker
Je ven, 2019-05-03 je 14:45 +0200, Bastien Nocera skribis: > > Can this assertion be backed up by anything substantive? This keeps > > being said, and I'm willing to believe it, but no actual arguments > > are > > being made as to _why_ this is. > > > > Specifically, this question needs an

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-03 Thread Michael Hill via desktop-devel-list
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 8:08 AM Carmen Bianca Bakker wrote: > The shitstorm is to be expected one way or another. The only difference > would be whether GNOME or The Linux Foundation is smeared in internet > comments as "SJWs changing things and I don't like it". Better us than them, because

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-03 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Fri, 2019-05-03 at 14:07 +0200, Carmen Bianca Bakker wrote: > Je ven, 2019-05-03 je 12:09 +0200, Bastien Nocera skribis: > > - Why? > > > > For the same reasons we'd want to change master/slave references. > > Though it usually isn't paired up with "slave" (excluding the > > "gitslave" addon),

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-03 Thread Carmen Bianca Bakker
Je ven, 2019-05-03 je 12:09 +0200, Bastien Nocera skribis: > - Why? > > For the same reasons we'd want to change master/slave references. > Though it usually isn't paired up with "slave" (excluding the > "gitslave" addon), it still has strong connotations of subjugation, and > some ties with the

Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-03 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Fri, 2019-05-03 at 08:36 +0200, Daniel Mustieles García via desktop- devel-list wrote: > The problem is that he is not only writting a summary. He has renamed > master branch in GitLab, he has noticed people in Ubuntu about this > change, he has ignored us when we have said his arguments about

Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-03 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Wed, 2019-05-01 at 12:48 +0100, Richard Hughes via desktop-devel- list wrote: > On Wed, 1 May 2019 at 12:38, Michael Gratton wrote: > > They have also been successful in getting other projects to use > > more > > inclusive language. For example, MongoDB initially refused to stop > > using the

Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules

2019-05-03 Thread Benjamin Berg
On Wed, 2019-05-01 at 21:58 +1000, Michael Gratton wrote: > On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 21:52, Michael Gratton wrote: > > On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 12:48, Richard Hughes > > wrote: > > > On Wed, 1 May 2019 at 12:38, Michael Gratton wrote: > > > > They have also been successful in getting other

Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-03 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Thu, 2019-04-25 at 11:46 +1000, Michael Gratton wrote: > Hi all, > > I'd like to formally propose as a GNOME Goal that GNOME modules > replace references to the terms "master" and "slave". [...] The scope > would be to replace occurrences of the terms appearing [...] git > repositories I

Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-03 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Fri, 2019-05-03 at 08:47 +0200, Daniel Mustieles García via desktop- devel-list wrote: > > > El mié., 1 may. 2019 a las 14:39, Michael Gratton () > escribió: > > On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 14:30, Carmen Bianca Bakker > > wrote: > > > > > > I think the problem is that, when prompted why we

Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-03 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Wed, 2019-05-01 at 10:08 -0500, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: > On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 6:08 AM, Michael Gratton wrote: > > This has already been covered in the original proposal under > > objection (1) "It doesn't matter". As has already been discussed, > > what actually doesn't matter is what

Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules

2019-05-03 Thread Daniel Mustieles García via desktop-devel-list
El mié., 1 may. 2019 a las 14:39, Michael Gratton () escribió: > On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 14:30, Carmen Bianca Bakker > wrote: > > > > I think the problem is that, when prompted why we should make this > > change, you said that we need only look at Python to see why this > > change is good. But

Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules

2019-05-03 Thread Daniel Mustieles García via desktop-devel-list
El mié., 1 may. 2019 a las 3:49, Ask Hjorth Larsen () escribió: > Am Mi., 1. Mai 2019 um 01:07 Uhr schrieb Michael Gratton : > > > > On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 17:53, Daniel Mustieles García > > wrote: > > > What has happened with this? We have a repo with a non-standard > > > branch name and no

Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules

2019-05-03 Thread Daniel Mustieles García via desktop-devel-list
El mié., 1 may. 2019 a las 1:06, Michael Gratton () escribió: > On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 17:53, Daniel Mustieles García > wrote: > > What has happened with this? We have a repo with a non-standard > > branch name and no consensus for a global change, do we? > > Just trying to find the time to

Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules

2019-05-03 Thread Daniel Mustieles García via desktop-devel-list
El mié., 1 may. 2019 a las 4:58, Germán Poo-Caamaño () escribió: > On Wed, 2019-05-01 at 03:49 +0200, Ask Hjorth Larsen via desktop-devel- > list wrote: > > Am Mi., 1. Mai 2019 um 01:07 Uhr schrieb Michael Gratton < > > m...@vee.net>: > > > On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 17:53, Daniel Mustieles García >