Le lundi 12 janvier 2009 à 15:43 +0100, Lennart Poettering a écrit :
I don't think the advent of sound cards that do this kind of switching
in software should hold as back and require us to export every single
crazy volume control to the user.
Still, this is not a reason to break things on
Le lundi 12 janvier 2009 à 17:33 +0100, Lennart Poettering a écrit :
Isn't the fact that we plan to include both volume controls in GNOME
transition phase enough? Those distros who like PA adopt the new one,
the ones who don't continue to use the old one. Distros who are unable
to decide have
Le dimanche 11 janvier 2009 à 01:19 +, Luis Medinas a écrit :
- Nautilus extension (based on the current ncb), there are some
applications that put the files on burn:/// with this extension Brasero
replaces ncb and Burn the media.
Very nice! Do you have a screenshot?
- Split Brasero into
Le dimanche 11 janvier 2009 à 12:21 +0100, Luca Ferretti a écrit :
Please also note that on current trunk the Audio capplet from
gnome-control-center and the Volume Control applet from gnome-applets
was replaced in favour of new gnome-volume-control and
gnome-volume-control-applet[1] in
Le dimanche 11 janvier 2009 à 10:37 -0500, William Jon McCann a écrit :
2009/1/11 Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org:
So, there is no more GStreamer mixer? It is not possible to use any
other backend than PulseAudio? It looks like an important regression to
me.
It is interesting to me how
Le dimanche 11 janvier 2009 à 16:51 +0100, Luca Ferretti a écrit :
A. With pulseaudio
* gnome-volume-control (NEW, not the previous one) from
gnome-media
* gnome-volume-control-applet from gnome-media (new, a
notification icon,
Le mardi 06 janvier 2009 à 13:10 +1100, Andrew Cowie a écrit :
Regardless, GNOME is not switching to anything. If GNOME
infrastructure is going to offer Git hosting, that's lovely for people
who chose to use Git as their version control system. {shrug} fine. If
GNOME infrastructure
Le lundi 05 janvier 2009 à 09:51 -0500, Dan Winship a écrit :
It seems pretty clear that the git-over-bzr solution doesn't make the
git users any happier than git-over-svn does, so let's not pretend that
it's any different from doing just bzr. So, given that we seem to have
sysadmin resources
Le lundi 05 janvier 2009 à 00:04 +0100, Johannes Schmid a écrit :
I totally agree here! This is simply a problem of QA. If someone writes
a system that can serve all possible (D)VCS clients that's fine but this
won't happen tommorow
No, it already happened and it is called Subversion. This is
Le dimanche 04 janvier 2009 à 15:40 -0500, Diego Escalante Urrelo a
écrit :
On a side note here, I recalled being against dropping ChangeLogs in
projects in favour of commit messages. But now I love it and I realize
that my main problem was that with SVN I *needed* the ChangeLog since
that was
Le dimanche 04 janvier 2009 à 23:44 +, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit :
I'd agree if you could not properly see a project's commit history on a
web interface, like with viewvc for svn, but since you can:
http://git.clutter-project.org/cgit.cgi?url=clutter/log/
your point is moot.
Sorry,
Le vendredi 05 décembre 2008 à 11:10 +0100, Olav Vitters a écrit :
I’m not really convinced by the minidump approach, especially because of
the confidentiality implications. Furthermore the current code still has
non-free components and is not distributable.
Non-free? By Debian
Le mardi 25 novembre 2008 à 15:25 +, Richard Hughes a écrit :
Right, but I need more than feedback from gentoo, FreeBSD and Solaris
for these project, we need _code_. The days of easily being able to run
a desktop GNOME instance without PackageKit, ConsoleKit, PolicyKit or
DeviceKit are
Le mardi 25 novembre 2008 à 13:39 -0500, David Zeuthen a écrit :
The kernel is definitely part of this and, FWIW, we (the ConsoleKit
developers) are working with the Linux kernel developers and security
people to get this right (initially the session id wasn't readable to
user space etc.).
I
Le mardi 25 novembre 2008 à 20:42 +0100, Matteo Settenvini a écrit :
An idea, by the way: as of now, Ubuntu during an update pops-up
sparingly a window asking what to do with a modified configuration file:
if keeping the original version of the maintainer, the modified one, or
what else.
Yes,
Le lundi 24 novembre 2008 à 18:25 +, Richard Hughes a écrit :
DeviceKit-power is a new mechanism daemon that moves the battery
profiling and statistics interface system-wide, and also does the
history recording once per system, rather than once per session. It also
moves to an interface
Le vendredi 21 novembre 2008 à 00:06 +0530, Suman Manjunath a écrit :
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 11:33 PM, Srinivasa Ragavan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Ross for the starter. This connector can work against Exchange
5.5 onwards till Exchange 2007. The old one works only with Exchange
2000
Le vendredi 21 novembre 2008 à 14:29 +0530, Amit Pundir a écrit :
Now my concern is how to start the GUI. What and where to configure to
kickstart gnome on bootup?
Can anyone please tell me or give me some pointers on how to bring my
X11-Gnome environment up, i.e which service to start or
Le vendredi 21 novembre 2008 à 16:43 +0530, Johnny Jacob a écrit :
However there are some setups where MAPI is not available at all, and
even Outlook clients use the HTTP interface. It would be nice if both
connectors could be merged – and the webdav interface updated for
Exchange 2007 –
Le mercredi 05 novembre 2008 à 14:01 +, Alberto Ruiz a écrit :
That shouldn't be needed, udev should set proper permissions on the
device already.
Well, some admins don't want users to write CDs on multiuser
environments. So yes, it's definitively needed.
The case where it is needed
Le mercredi 05 novembre 2008 à 13:41 +, Luis Medinas a écrit :
Again... is any regression provide a standalone application that makes
users do whatever they want when they want to burn a cd/dvd ?
Yes, this is a regression. NCB made the right choice to consider CD
burning as a service
Le mercredi 05 novembre 2008 à 13:51 +, Alberto Ruiz a écrit :
Does brasero has any sort of PolicyKit integration to handle the lack
of write permission on the device (or cdrecord lack of setuid)?
That shouldn’t be needed, udev should set proper permissions on the
device already.
Cheers,
Le mercredi 05 novembre 2008 à 16:55 +0100, Luca Ferretti a écrit :
So we have two different issues.
** Issue #1 **
We want a standard, well behaving, full featured GNOME framework
for burning.
Solutions:
* add missing features in
Le mardi 04 novembre 2008 à 21:19 +, Luis Medinas a écrit :
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 15:21 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Yes. There are two separate things here: a real burning backend (which
currently is cdrtools/cdrkit and in the end should probably be libburn)
and a base UI.
NCB
Le lundi 03 novembre 2008 à 09:34 +0100, Mathias Hasselmann a écrit :
I agree that more ambitious users need more powerful tools than NCB or
Serpentine. So what about this random idea: Let's use PackageKit to add
some Install Brasero button to the NCB window?
I’d prefer to see the missing
Le samedi 01 novembre 2008 à 19:27 +0100, Philippe Rouquier a écrit :
We'd be interested in having brasero integrated into the GNOME
desktop.
-1 for me.
Brasero has a way too complex UI compared to n-c-b, with doubtful
improvement in terms of features. AFAICT the only thing it has that ncb
Le vendredi 24 octobre 2008 à 23:17 +0100, Bastien Nocera a écrit :
Also note that whatever solution is chosen, this needs to be possible:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=529852
Interesting. AFAIK lighttpd can use xattrs to set the MIME type, but not
sniff them.
Le jeudi 23 octobre 2008 à 18:22 +0200, Murray Cumming a écrit :
Yeah, I have the same problem with Glom's dependency on PostgreSQL.
Debian/Ubuntu users get an unused PostgreSQL instance even when Glom
isn't running, just because its Debian policy to run any services that
are installed, with
Le jeudi 23 octobre 2008 à 17:02 +0200, Frederic Peters a écrit :
A point Patryk touched is that generic distributions will provide
Apache packages configured to run at startup, so it is not just a
matter of binary size.
What do distributors think?
I think we could split the web server
Le jeudi 23 octobre 2008 à 16:41 +0100, Bastien Nocera a écrit :
I doubt our server guys will get overly happy over the idea of
disabling a typical server daemon just so you can integrate it with
GNOME. I don't really think I want the server team to hate the GNOME
team any more.
Why is
Le vendredi 24 octobre 2008 à 17:58 +0200, Murray Cumming a écrit :
SQLLite can't do what PostgreSQL can do, which is why PostgresSQL
exists. For instance:
- Multi-user and the relevant locking.
- Access control.
- Network access.
As these are not things necessary for a UI generator, I
Le vendredi 24 octobre 2008 à 20:58 +0200, Lennart Poettering a écrit :
I don't think that this kind of FUD about Apache is very
constructive. Just because lighttpd has a light in its name it
doesn't mean that Apache is a slow huge beast. That is nonsense.
And just because Apache is famous
Le jeudi 02 octobre 2008 à 23:23 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit :
another issue is that libunique is pretty much a testing ground for API
and requirements and while the basic functionality is obviously already
implemented I still receive requests[2] that make sense to add *before*
putting the
Le vendredi 03 octobre 2008 à 14:29 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit :
The alternative is to ship a constantly api/abi changing library,
which means you'll either have to constantly patch apps to work with
the version you ship or you end up shipping multiple versions of the
library. Which brings
Le lundi 22 septembre 2008 à 11:54 +0200, Steve Frécinaux a écrit :
2008/9/18 Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
One way to avoid annoying the user is to establish a line like a
password prompt should only pop up immediately after a user action.
This way it appears only while you
Le lundi 22 septembre 2008 à 16:02 +0200, Dave Neary a écrit :
I really think the good criterion is not “has focus” but some “action
triggered by the user less than 1 second ago”.
That seems like it'll be overly complicating any code that gets written
to handle this.
I didn’t mean to
Le samedi 20 septembre 2008 à 12:17 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit :
read this bit above again...
This is not true. See #307963. From the gtk 2.12 documentation for
GtkAdjustment:
The page size of the adjustment. Note that the page-size is
irrelevant and should be set to zero if the
Le jeudi 18 septembre 2008 à 18:46 +, Stef a écrit :
Some people want it to act like gksudo. That is, make a password prompt
desktop modal, no other windows are accessible, everything grayed out.
Use case/complaint: I was giving a presentation in front of thousands
of people. I did X
Le jeudi 11 septembre 2008 à 12:54 +0100, Bastien Nocera a écrit :
So in short, what you might be looking for is here:
http://patch-tracking.debian.net/email/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Who do we contact to know what the patches are for?
The easiest way to reach a maintainer is probably the
[EMAIL
Le jeudi 11 septembre 2008 à 09:01 -0400, Luis Villa a écrit :
Is anybody regularly reviewing/triaging those? I assume no, right?
'twould be a great project for somebody.
We are trying to forward all those that are relevant for upstream in
bugzilla, but given this is a manual process, we often
Le jeudi 28 août 2008 à 16:16 +0100, Joe Bloggs a écrit :
Hi, can anyone tell me if they know of an application that easily allows me
to save written notes on the desktop background (preferably overlayed on top
of the
background image)? I don't want a seperate application window, I want to
Le mercredi 23 juillet 2008 à 01:47 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
This is more complex than that. If I copy a launcher from the
applications menu to my panel or desktop and then run my session in
jhbuild, I might want to use the jhbuilt application instead of the
system application.
Hi,
the topic was raised on debian-devel and I think we should make sure
that we are not missing anything before someone starts a crusade about
it, so I prefer asking here.
Currently, none of the .desktop files shipped in GNOME modules specify
an absolute path for the executable. However this is
Le mardi 01 juillet 2008 à 10:30 +1200, Callum McKenzie a écrit :
As an aside: ultimately it will be necessary to move it from a hacking
dependency to a build dependency. Novice developers work from tarballs,
not SVN and you will get patches against your generated code appearing
in bugzilla.
Le mardi 01 juillet 2008 à 10:49 +0200, Jürg Billeter a écrit :
The tarball should also contain the .vala source files
This sounds OK, we can manage them like the autotools files with quilt.
and the build
system should rebuild the C code when the .vala files have changed,
similar to how
Le lundi 12 mai 2008 à 19:31 +0200, Wouter Bolsterlee a écrit :
Debian includes a gnome-panel-logout binary to provide the logout dialog as
a standalone program. It makes much sense to get this upstream.
As Simon explained, this will no longer be necessary in 2.24 so the
patch will disappear.
Hi,
since the logout/shutdown dialog boxes have been in gnome-panel, there
is a double inconsistency across the desktop:
* unsynchronized code duplication for GDM integration, and the
same could arise for g-p-m communication code;
* UI inconsistency between the default logout
Le samedi 10 novembre 2007 à 13:45 +0100, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen a
écrit :
In my ideal world a build system would be completely decoupled from
the implementation - for example like Ant XML with the Java-isms
converted to generic instructions.
Please, not until you can express the equivalent
Le vendredi 02 novembre 2007 à 11:04 -0400, Hubert Figuiere a écrit :
OOo is Gtk based for several years.
This is not true. OOo only uses Gtk themes, not Gtk widgets. Big
difference. Like the difference between firefox and epiphany.
What difference does it make to the users? It
Hi,
Le mercredi 17 octobre 2007 à 14:23 +0200, Christian Kirbach a écrit :
(a) maintain compability with old apps
(b) create a freedesktop.org compatible trashing system at the same time
(c) not require any changes to nautilus or gnome-vfs (nor gvfs)
Then again distros could do this with
Hi,
Le mardi 16 octobre 2007 à 22:14 +0200, Lennart Poettering a écrit :
Gustavo brought up the issue that PA hogs the sound device. Sure we
do. The idea is having everything go through PA, so that we can treat
everything the same. However, since there are some APIs that are
It makes
Le jeudi 27 septembre 2007 à 00:48 +0200, Sven Herzberg a écrit :
Next question: consistency with the platform
The GNOME platform uses LGPL as the license of choice to provide ISVs
with a powerful stack that anyone can use - even to build proprietary
software.
You say, you took code from
Le lundi 17 septembre 2007 à 16:26 +0100, Seb James a écrit :
Heads up for those interested in remote desktop connections:
I just committed a GTK NX client called nxlaunch to the freenx svn
repository at berlios:
This sounds quite interesting, but I would have loved to see this work
worse than a broken tool is using another tool to unbreak it.
SVK is not a tool to unbreak Subversion, it's just another
implementation.
It's easier to do something wrong than right.
And it's easier to use a simple tool than a sophisticated one.
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are already
available to those who love git thanks to git-svn. It strikes me that we
would actually lose svn's killer feature (simplicity) if the whole
repository is migrated to git.
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Le dimanche 08 avril 2007 à 14:20 +0200, Olav Vitters a écrit :
On Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 05:13:04PM +0200, Paolo Borelli wrote:
As far as I am concerned I'd like to drop any reports from 2.16 and
below, but I see how that may be a little to aggressive. What about
dropping reports from 2.14
Le dimanche 08 avril 2007 à 16:19 +0200, Olav Vitters a écrit :
Oh, and a warning: without having some system in place to
detect duplicates automatically, you will be overwhelmed.
Definitely. This, and the fact such reports are mostly useless without
debugging symbols available. I have some
Le vendredi 02 mars 2007 à 14:24 +0800, Neo Liu a écrit :
gurus,
how can I get a library version in code? is there a general way? and if
not, is there a way to get atk/at-spi library version?
There is no generic way to do this, but a number of libraries provide
interfaces to their version.
Le samedi 03 mars 2007 à 14:11 -0300, Carlos Eduardo Rodrigues Diógenes
a écrit :
On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 16:57 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le vendredi 02 mars 2007 à 14:24 +0800, Neo Liu a écrit :
gurus,
how can I get a library version in code? is there a general way
Le samedi 17 février 2007 à 00:07 +0100, Étienne Bersac a écrit :
Hi,
I really like the Tango mockup. Especially the compact one.
Ditto. Is this something that can be done given how GTK+ and metacity
are currently architectured? To make this work we have to end the
distinction between the
Le mercredi 03 janvier 2007 à 11:02 +, Chris Vaughan a écrit :
What I am trying to do is create an installer for a software tool I
have been developing. I would like something that sounds relatively
simple to happen.
On Linux distributions, software is installed using packages, not
is quite an acceptable number.
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Le vendredi 01 décembre 2006 à 17:46 +0100, Étienne Bersac a écrit :
Hi,
1) Tesseract-OCR software has been released under Apache License 2.0
I guess it will fit well with LGPL.
But not with e.g. writing an abiword plugin.
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something like this
automatically setup, but I'm afraid it would be getting, although much
interesting, far beyond the scope of this discussion.
Josselin Mouette wrote:
I think a good short-term change is to revert to global locking by
default.
There is a way to turn on global locking
monitoring.
Comments anyone?
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to connect to a Gconfd server via
tcp to a remote socket:port.
You are describing what CORBA already brings with the current
implementation, provided that global locking is enabled.
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releases, using extensions.
As Epiphany extensions are tightly dependent on the Epiphany version, I
don't think it would be very useful.
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code as gnome-vfs...
Which version? The latest gamin version is still showing this bug. Well,
it was until we switched gnome-menus to gnome-vfs and deprecate gamin
entirely.
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Le lundi 02 octobre 2006 à 12:17 +0200, Alexander Larsson a écrit :
On Sat, 2006-09-30 at 11:24 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
But it works by polling, while fam queries the remote fam server which
is notified by dnotify.
Are you actually aware of any systems that have set up fam
about... a working desktop? Gamin is responsible for bugs in
gnome-menus where the menu becomes empty. This doesn't happen when using
gnome-vfs.
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compatibility symlinks in gnome-themes
2.16 to avoid a mess for people upgrading.
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to depend on at the beginning of a release; and require
specific proposals to allow dependencies on newer tarball versions if
issues come up. Thoughts? Comments?
I would be very interesting in hearing the opinions of people like
Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] who build new releases
Le mercredi 26 avril 2006 à 21:00 +0100, Thomas Wood a écrit :
Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le samedi 15 avril 2006 à 13:16 +0100, Thomas Wood a écrit :
Personally, I think it's understandable that artists may choose not to
distribute their work under the (L)GPL, which is primarily a license
values. The purpose is for
CDD to overwrite Debian defaults, and for site-specific packages to
overwrite all other defaults.
I also recommend that you read the manual of dh_gconf if you plan to
ship such changes in Debian packages.
Regards,
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scripts?
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for it.
killall as root kills all processes on the system on solaris, I think.
So this might not be a perfect patch for upstream. :)
It does the same on Linux. The purpose is to signal all running gconfd-2
processes in user sessions.
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depends on GConf itself.
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True. While the GPL is suitable for distributing a documentation on CD,
it is annoying for distribution on paper. That's why dual-licensing a
documentation with e.g. the GFDL or the OPL isn't a bad idea.
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be
though. Hopefully less nasty.
With dpkg, this doesn't exist. The schemas are all unregistered in the
prerm script, which is run before the upgrade.
Regards,
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private mail.
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will make this work much easier to integrate.
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