Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2020-06-16 Thread Frederic Peters
Bastien Nocera wrote: > I haven't looked at library-web because I have a whole bunch of work > that I'd need to do with it, but not the bandwidth... I pushed an untested minimal change. Fred ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2020-06-15 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 9:00 AM Bastien Nocera wrote: > > Doing some thread grave digging. Just as an FYI - in terms of happening - I see it very likely that github and gitlab are all going to be changing the name of the default branch in git. (I talked to Nuritzi - and she said discussions have

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2020-06-15 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2019-05-06 at 21:13 +0200, Frederic Peters wrote: > Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > - How? > > > > It is possible to rename the "master" branch in git. It's also > > possible > > to add a "link" of sorts so that software that specifically > > references > > "master" can be made to work with

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2020-06-15 Thread Bastien Nocera
Doing some thread grave digging. On Sat, 2019-05-04 at 15:18 +0200, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Sat, 2019-05-04 at 12:32 +0200, drago01 via desktop-devel-list > wrote: > > https://dictionary.cambridge.org/amp/english/master > > > > Master / slave relation is just one of the possible meanings but

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-06 Thread Frederic Peters
Bastien Nocera wrote: > - How? > > It is possible to rename the "master" branch in git. It's also possible > to add a "link" of sorts so that software that specifically references > "master" can be made to work with the new name[5]. I checked and there is an hardcoded reference (git) master

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-06 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, May 03, 2019 at 12:09:11PM +0200, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Thu, 2019-04-25 at 11:46 +1000, Michael Gratton wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I'd like to formally propose as a GNOME Goal that GNOME modules > > replace references to the terms "master" and "slave". [...] The scope > > would be to

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-04 Thread Bastien Nocera
On 4 May 2019, at 17:47, drago01 wrote: > > "The term master copy has a unique meaning in art that predates the > modern term. In art, a master copy is the process of drawing or > painting a copy of a another artist's work. It is most common to copy > the work of a master artist, hence the

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-04 Thread drago01 via desktop-devel-list
On Saturday, May 4, 2019, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Sat, 2019-05-04 at 12:32 +0200, drago01 via desktop-devel-list > wrote: > > https://dictionary.cambridge.org/amp/english/master > > > > Master / slave relation is just one of the possible meanings but not > > in the context of master copy > >

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-04 Thread Michael Hill via desktop-devel-list
On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 10:44 AM Ask Hjorth Larsen via desktop-devel-list wrote: > * The proposed link between master branch and slavery is based on > arguments that require a dictionary and etymological analysis. But if > we think master has bad connotations, this is a question of how it >

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-04 Thread Ask Hjorth Larsen via desktop-devel-list
Am Fr., 3. Mai 2019 um 14:46 Uhr schrieb Bastien Nocera : > > On Fri, 2019-05-03 at 14:07 +0200, Carmen Bianca Bakker wrote: > > Je ven, 2019-05-03 je 12:09 +0200, Bastien Nocera skribis: > > > - Why? > > > > > > For the same reasons we'd want to change master/slave references. > > > Though it

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-04 Thread Britt Yazel via desktop-devel-list
I don't like the direction this thread has taken. It has devolved into infighting between one another, and as such I think it best to end it here. People have made their opinions known, and no more minds are likely to be changed in either direction with the tone of the discussion as it is now. On

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-04 Thread mcatanzaro
On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 4:22 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote: The person you quoted is a troll. In fact, I'm not sure there's any comments on that issue that aren't trolls (apart from the OP and the repository owner). Ah OK then, fooled me because he took a such strong plausibly-sincere stance

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-04 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Sat, 2019-05-04 at 12:32 +0200, drago01 via desktop-devel-list wrote: > https://dictionary.cambridge.org/amp/english/master > > Master / slave relation is just one of the possible meanings but not > in the context of master copy > > "an original version of something from which copies can be

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-04 Thread Ernestas Kulik
On Sat, 2019-05-04 at 11:33 +0200, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > I don't have a good answer for this. I didn't find an explanation one > way or the other, but there are uses of "slave copies" that aren't > "copied from master" in Google, but usually not in > recording/publishing > fields. > > I just

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-04 Thread drago01 via desktop-devel-list
On Saturday, May 4, 2019, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Sat, 2019-05-04 at 01:28 +0200, Matthias Klumpp wrote: > > Am Fr., 3. Mai 2019 um 15:36 Uhr schrieb Carmen Bianca Bakker > > : > > > Je ven, 2019-05-03 je 14:45 +0200, Bastien Nocera skribis: > > > > [...] > > > > If we agree that the "master"

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-04 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Sat, 2019-05-04 at 01:28 +0200, Matthias Klumpp wrote: > Am Fr., 3. Mai 2019 um 15:36 Uhr schrieb Carmen Bianca Bakker > : > > Je ven, 2019-05-03 je 14:45 +0200, Bastien Nocera skribis: > > > [...] > > > If we agree that the "master" in the git branch name is the same > > > "master" that's used

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-04 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Fri, 2019-05-03 at 18:31 -0500, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: > On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 5:57 PM, Bastien Nocera > wrote: > > Seriously Michael, you’re embarrassing yourself. > > I don't feel very embarrassed. Your suggested alternative name, > "main," > is clearly considered to be offensive by

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-03 Thread Roth Robert via desktop-devel-list
On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 2:31 AM wrote: > On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 5:57 PM, Bastien Nocera > wrote: > > Seriously Michael, you’re embarrassing yourself. > > I don't feel very embarrassed. Your suggested alternative name, "main," > is clearly considered to be offensive by at least one of the very

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-03 Thread mcatanzaro
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 5:57 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote: Seriously Michael, you’re embarrassing yourself. I don't feel very embarrassed. Your suggested alternative name, "main," is clearly considered to be offensive by at least one of the very same people who don't like "master," and who

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-03 Thread Matthias Klumpp
Am Fr., 3. Mai 2019 um 15:36 Uhr schrieb Carmen Bianca Bakker : > > Je ven, 2019-05-03 je 14:45 +0200, Bastien Nocera skribis: > > [...] > > If we agree that the "master" in the git branch name is the same > > "master" that's used in "master copy" meaning "the original", "the one > > medium that

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-03 Thread Bastien Nocera
> On 4 May 2019, at 00:29, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: > >> On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 5:09 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote: >> - And to what? >> A few possible names were mentioned/used. "mainline" was thought to >> have strong connections to drug use, "release" (use in the contributor >> covenant)

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-03 Thread mcatanzaro
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 5:09 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote: - And to what? A few possible names were mentioned/used. "mainline" was thought to have strong connections to drug use, "release" (use in the contributor covenant) seems to restrictive (we also do releases from other branches). I like

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-03 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Fri, 2019-05-03 at 15:35 +0200, Carmen Bianca Bakker wrote: > Je ven, 2019-05-03 je 14:45 +0200, Bastien Nocera skribis: > > > > > If we agree that the "master" in the git branch name is the same > > "master" that's used in "master copy" meaning "the original", "the > > one > > medium that

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-03 Thread Carmen Bianca Bakker
Je ven, 2019-05-03 je 14:45 +0200, Bastien Nocera skribis: > > Can this assertion be backed up by anything substantive? This keeps > > being said, and I'm willing to believe it, but no actual arguments > > are > > being made as to _why_ this is. > > > > Specifically, this question needs an

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-03 Thread Michael Hill via desktop-devel-list
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 8:08 AM Carmen Bianca Bakker wrote: > The shitstorm is to be expected one way or another. The only difference > would be whether GNOME or The Linux Foundation is smeared in internet > comments as "SJWs changing things and I don't like it". Better us than them, because

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-03 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Fri, 2019-05-03 at 14:07 +0200, Carmen Bianca Bakker wrote: > Je ven, 2019-05-03 je 12:09 +0200, Bastien Nocera skribis: > > - Why? > > > > For the same reasons we'd want to change master/slave references. > > Though it usually isn't paired up with "slave" (excluding the > > "gitslave" addon),

Re: Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-03 Thread Carmen Bianca Bakker
Je ven, 2019-05-03 je 12:09 +0200, Bastien Nocera skribis: > - Why? > > For the same reasons we'd want to change master/slave references. > Though it usually isn't paired up with "slave" (excluding the > "gitslave" addon), it still has strong connotations of subjugation, and > some ties with the

Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-03 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Fri, 2019-05-03 at 08:36 +0200, Daniel Mustieles García via desktop- devel-list wrote: > The problem is that he is not only writting a summary. He has renamed > master branch in GitLab, he has noticed people in Ubuntu about this > change, he has ignored us when we have said his arguments about

Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-03 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Wed, 2019-05-01 at 12:48 +0100, Richard Hughes via desktop-devel- list wrote: > On Wed, 1 May 2019 at 12:38, Michael Gratton wrote: > > They have also been successful in getting other projects to use > > more > > inclusive language. For example, MongoDB initially refused to stop > > using the

Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-03 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Thu, 2019-04-25 at 11:46 +1000, Michael Gratton wrote: > Hi all, > > I'd like to formally propose as a GNOME Goal that GNOME modules > replace references to the terms "master" and "slave". [...] The scope > would be to replace occurrences of the terms appearing [...] git > repositories I

Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-03 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Fri, 2019-05-03 at 08:47 +0200, Daniel Mustieles García via desktop- devel-list wrote: > > > El mié., 1 may. 2019 a las 14:39, Michael Gratton () > escribió: > > On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 14:30, Carmen Bianca Bakker > > wrote: > > > > > > I think the problem is that, when prompted why we

Replacing "master" reference in git branch names (was Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules)

2019-05-03 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Wed, 2019-05-01 at 10:08 -0500, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: > On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 6:08 AM, Michael Gratton wrote: > > This has already been covered in the original proposal under > > objection (1) "It doesn't matter". As has already been discussed, > > what actually doesn't matter is what