Re: New modules in 2.14

2006-01-17 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 16 janvier 2006 à 19:13 -0700, Elijah Newren a écrit : Ok, here's what I'm guessing is the rough module consensus after having re-read or skimmed a ton of emails: In: - pyorbit (bindings suite) - deskbar-applet - fast-user-switch-applet (though this should be integrated in the

Re: New modules in 2.14

2006-01-17 Thread Luca Cavalli
Le lundi 16 janvier 2006 à 19:13 -0700, Elijah Newren a écrit : Ok, here's what I'm guessing is the rough module consensus after having re-read or skimmed a ton of emails: In: [...] - libnotify notification-daemon[3] [...] Does that sound right? Sounds right to me. The only thing I

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-17 Thread Andy Wingo
Hi Vincent, On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 22:42 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: Well, the question is: is GStreamer 0.8 totally unmaintained? Yup. I had understood that Ronald was planning to make a new release with some fixes, so that's why I proposed to not close the bugs. I don't know what Ronald's

Re: New modules in 2.14

2006-01-17 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 19:13 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote: Ok, here's what I'm guessing is the rough module consensus after having re-read or skimmed a ton of emails: In: - pyorbit (bindings suite) - deskbar-applet - fast-user-switch-applet (though this should be integrated in the panel

Re: strange linker error

2006-01-17 Thread Stanislav Brabec
Davyd Madeley wrote: Has anyone seen an error like this before: g77 -shared .libs/libHORIZON.la-2.o -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/home/davyd/install/lib -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/home/davyd/install//lib -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/home/davyd/install/lib -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/home/davyd/install//lib -L/home/davyd/install/lib

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-17 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le mardi 17 janvier 2006 à 10:48 +0100, Andy Wingo a écrit : Hi Vincent, On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 22:42 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: Well, the question is: is GStreamer 0.8 totally unmaintained? Yup. Thanks for all the people running deployed software running Gstreamer 0.8 :( -- Frederic

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-17 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Frederic Crozat Le mardi 17 janvier 2006 à 10:48 +0100, Andy Wingo a écrit : Hi Vincent, On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 22:42 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: Well, the question is: is GStreamer 0.8 totally unmaintained? Yup. Thanks for all the people running deployed software

Re: New modules in 2.14

2006-01-17 Thread Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro
Seg, 2006-01-16 às 19:13 -0700, Elijah Newren escreveu: [4] gnome-python-desktop hasn't yet been split from gnome-python-extras but it was a very recent proposal (caused by requirements of other modules), so it may be a few more days yet before Gustavo is able to make the split. I would

Re: New modules in 2.14

2006-01-17 Thread Guilherme de S. Pastore
Em Ter, 2006-01-17 às 13:24 +, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro escreveu: I would have done it already if some caring gnome cvs admin would have found time to answer my cvs surgery request[1].. :-) The Sysadmin Team cares, believe me. Sorry for the delay, looking at it now. Yours, Guilherme

Re: New modules in 2.14

2006-01-17 Thread Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro
Ter, 2006-01-17 às 11:43 -0200, Guilherme de S. Pastore escreveu: Em Ter, 2006-01-17 às 13:24 +, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro escreveu: I would have done it already if some caring gnome cvs admin would have found time to answer my cvs surgery request[1].. :-) The Sysadmin Team cares,

Re: New modules in 2.14

2006-01-17 Thread Calum Benson
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 09:58 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: Sounds right to me. The only thing I fear is that a lot of apps will use notification bubbles without good reasons. I'd like to see some HIG recommandations for this. Also, it's not clear whether apps should use notification bubbles or

Re: New modules in 2.14

2006-01-17 Thread Calum Benson
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 14:04 +, Calum Benson wrote: On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 09:58 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: Sounds right to me. The only thing I fear is that a lot of apps will use notification bubbles without good reasons. I'd like to see some HIG recommandations for this. Also, it's

Re: New modules in 2.14

2006-01-17 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 14:09 +, Calum Benson wrote: On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 14:04 +, Calum Benson wrote: On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 09:58 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: Sounds right to me. The only thing I fear is that a lot of apps will use notification bubbles without good reasons. I'd

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-17 Thread Ronald S. Bultje
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 08:00 -0500, Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le mardi 17 janvier 2006 10:48 +0100, Andy Wingo a crit : On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 22:42 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: Well, the question is: is GStreamer 0.8 totally unmaintained? Yup. Thanks for all the people

~/.gnome2/share/fonts

2006-01-17 Thread Rodrigo Moya
Hi What is ~/.gnome2/share/fonts for? What programs/libs access it? Bug: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=310089 -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org

Survey on GNOME developers

2006-01-17 Thread Niklas Vainio
Dear GNOME contributors, The Hypermedia lab at the University of Tampere, Finland is doing a survey on free/open source software (FOSS) communities. We ask GNOME contributors, including developers, bug fixers, documentation writers, testers, packagers and coordinators to participate in the

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-17 Thread Kjartan Maraas
ons, 18,.01.2006 kl. 00.22 +1100, skrev Jeff Waugh: quote who=Frederic Crozat Le mardi 17 janvier 2006 à 10:48 +0100, Andy Wingo a écrit : Hi Vincent, On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 22:42 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: Well, the question is: is GStreamer 0.8 totally unmaintained? Yup.

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-17 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le mercredi 18 janvier 2006 à 00:22 +1100, Jeff Waugh a écrit : quote who=Frederic Crozat Le mardi 17 janvier 2006 à 10:48 +0100, Andy Wingo a écrit : Hi Vincent, On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 22:42 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: Well, the question is: is GStreamer 0.8 totally unmaintained?

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-17 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
Hi, Is GNOME 2.10 maintained? If you want to do an analogy, you should ask : is GNOME 2.12 maintained ? ;) No - since GNOME 2.14 is not out yet. The question is - is GNOME maintaining more than one stable branch at any point ? After discussing on irc, it seems not everybody has the

Re: Survey on GNOME developers

2006-01-17 Thread Alan Horkan
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, Niklas Vainio wrote: Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:08:58 +0200 From: Niklas Vainio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Survey on GNOME developers Dear GNOME contributors, The Hypermedia lab at the University of Tampere, Finland is doing a survey

Re: ~/.gnome2/share/fonts

2006-01-17 Thread Rodney Dawes
I believe this is from libgnomeprint. -- dobey On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 16:29 +0100, Rodrigo Moya wrote: Hi What is ~/.gnome2/share/fonts for? What programs/libs access it? Bug: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=310089 ___

ATK/AT-SPI tarball b0rkage

2006-01-17 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi: FYI, two tarball uploads failed, leaving corrupted tarballs in my dir. Uploading to ftp.gnome.org revealed the problem (seems to have been caused by misbehaving socks proxy on my end). Will fix when I have a clean pipe to push the bits through (about 2 hours). Sorry for the

GNOME Icon Theme 2.13.5[.1] AKA the HOLY CRAP, ICONS! release

2006-01-17 Thread Rodney Dawes
That's right. Only Kenya [1] has lions, and only GNOME has over 1200 uniquely named icons, in its default theme. In an effort to improve the maintainability of gnome-icon-theme, I've spent most of this past weekend preparing it to migrate GNOME to the Icon Naming Specification, make the default

Re: GNOME Icon Theme 2.13.5[.1] AKA the HOLY CRAP, ICONS! release

2006-01-17 Thread Matthias Clasen
On 1/17/06, Rodney Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's right. Only Kenya [1] has lions, and only GNOME has over 1200 uniquely named icons, in its default theme. In an effort to improve the maintainability of gnome-icon-theme, I've spent most of this past weekend preparing it to migrate GNOME

Re: GNOME Icon Theme 2.13.5[.1] AKA the HOLY CRAP, ICONS! release

2006-01-17 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi Rodney, Le mardi 17 janvier 2006 à 12:59 -0500, Rodney Dawes a écrit : That's right. Only Kenya [1] has lions, and only GNOME has over 1200 uniquely named icons, in its default theme. In an effort to improve the maintainability of gnome-icon-theme, I've spent most of this past weekend

Re: GNOME Icon Theme 2.13.5[.1] AKA the HOLY CRAP, ICONS! release

2006-01-17 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 14:14 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: So, lets talk about this new dependency, icon-naming-utils. There is a couple of issues here: - The jhbuild gnome 2.14 moduleset does not know about it This is a trivial problem then. Let's fix it. I don't use jhbuild, so I know not

Re: GNOME Icon Theme 2.13.5[.1] AKA the HOLY CRAP, ICONS! release

2006-01-17 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 20:37 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: Hi Rodney, Le mardi 17 janvier 2006 à 12:59 -0500, Rodney Dawes a écrit : That's right. Only Kenya [1] has lions, and only GNOME has over 1200 uniquely named icons, in its default theme. In an effort to improve the maintainability of

Re: GNOME Icon Theme 2.13.5[.1] AKA the HOLY CRAP, ICONS! release

2006-01-17 Thread Matthias Clasen
On 1/17/06, Rodney Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 14:14 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: So, lets talk about this new dependency, icon-naming-utils. There is a couple of issues here: - The jhbuild gnome 2.14 moduleset does not know about it This is a trivial problem

Re: GNOME Icon Theme 2.13.5[.1] AKA the HOLY CRAP, ICONS! release

2006-01-17 Thread Elijah Newren
On 1/17/06, Rodney Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - It uses perl-XML-Simple, unlike other perl utilitites like intltool, which use perl-XML-Parser. This is a problem for us, since perl-XML-Simple is in Fedora Extras atm. Well, the difference in complexity between Simple and just Parser

Re: GNOME Icon Theme 2.13.5[.1] AKA the HOLY CRAP, ICONS! release

2006-01-17 Thread Richard Hughes
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 15:15 -0500, Rodney Dawes wrote: snip I plan to patch gnome-applets soon though, so that it uses the new names in gweather. snip So what's the easiest way for a maintainer to scan his src/ directory identifying the old names, and suggesting replacements? For instance, for

Re: GNOME Icon Theme 2.13.5[.1] AKA the HOLY CRAP, ICONS! release

2006-01-17 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
Hi, On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 15:15 -0500, Rodney Dawes wrote: On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 20:37 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: Hi Rodney, I plan to patch gnome-applets soon though, so that it uses the new names in gweather. Also, one of the ideas as I stated in the annoucement, is to help reduce the

Re: GNOME Icon Theme 2.13.5[.1] AKA the HOLY CRAP, ICONS! release

2006-01-17 Thread Matthias Clasen
On 1/17/06, Elijah Newren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/17/06, Rodney Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - It uses perl-XML-Simple, unlike other perl utilitites like intltool, which use perl-XML-Parser. This is a problem for us, since perl-XML-Simple is in Fedora Extras atm.

Re: GNOME Icon Theme 2.13.5[.1] AKA the HOLY CRAP, ICONS! release

2006-01-17 Thread Matthias Clasen
I may be able to get perl-XML-Simple pulled into FC2, even if we normally don't allow new packages after test2. But regardless of that, it sucks to use *yet* another perl parser, just because we haven't used them all yet... Ok, this is getting interesting, perl-XML-Simple drags in

Re: GNOME Icon Theme 2.13.5[.1] AKA the HOLY CRAP, ICONS! release

2006-01-17 Thread Luca Ferretti
Il giorno mar, 17/01/2006 alle 14.14 -0500, Matthias Clasen ha scritto: On 1/17/06, Rodney Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's right. Only Kenya [1] has lions, and only GNOME has over 1200 uniquely named icons, in its default theme. In an effort to improve the maintainability of

Re: GNOME Icon Theme 2.13.5[.1] AKA the HOLY CRAP, ICONS! release

2006-01-17 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 15:55 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: I may be able to get perl-XML-Simple pulled into FC2, even if we normally don't allow new packages after test2. But regardless of that, it sucks to use *yet* another perl parser, just because we haven't used them all yet... Ok,

Re: New modules in 2.14

2006-01-17 Thread Elijah Newren
On 1/17/06, Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 19:13 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote: Ok, here's what I'm guessing is the rough module consensus after having re-read or skimmed a ton of emails: In: - pyorbit (bindings suite) - deskbar-applet -

Re: GNOME Icon Theme 2.13.5[.1] AKA the HOLY CRAP, ICONS! release

2006-01-17 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 20:38 +, Richard Hughes wrote: On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 15:15 -0500, Rodney Dawes wrote: snip I plan to patch gnome-applets soon though, so that it uses the new names in gweather. snip So what's the easiest way for a maintainer to scan his src/ directory

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-17 Thread Brian Cameron
Vincent/Glynn: On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 07:28 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: + quite a few people were assuming that 0.10 was the plan for 2.14 and were totally unaware that 0.8 had even been on the plan. Ubuntu and Fedora development versions (i.e. the distros that Elijah checked or found

Re: New modules in 2.14

2006-01-17 Thread Davyd Madeley
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 22:56 +, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: So, I'm going a bit off-topic here, but I'm curious: what are these metacity python bindings for? They wrap libmetacity-private. I think Johan wants to draw windows inside a scrolled window in Gazpacho GUI builder, and

Re: GNOME Icon Theme 2.13.5[.1] AKA the HOLY CRAP, ICONS! release

2006-01-17 Thread Matthias Clasen
Perhaps this is a packaging issue? It certainly doesn't depend on that module here [1], or any machine I've ever installed it on before. And according to the source listing on cpan.org, it seems to only require XML::SAX or XML::Parser, which then also depend on other things, such as

Re: GNOME Icon Theme 2.13.5[.1] AKA the HOLY CRAP, ICONS! release

2006-01-17 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 23:23 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: Are we silently switching to Tango here ? I wish, but no. Jakub is updating several of the icons to have a more modern look, by applying elements from the Tango Style Guide, to the gnome-icon-theme style icons. I've explicitly instructed

Re: GNOME Icon Theme 2.13.5[.1] AKA the HOLY CRAP, ICONS! release

2006-01-17 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 21:46 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: I was about to open a bug for it, but I'll mention this issue here anyway: the current gdict icon should be deprecated and deleted from the theme, since gnome-dictionary ships its own. Great. This is actually what we want to do with app

Re: GNOME Icon Theme 2.13.5[.1] AKA the HOLY CRAP, ICONS! release

2006-01-17 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 17 janvier 2006 à 16:42 -0500, Rodney Dawes a écrit : However, I am totally willing to help deal with questions about icons with regards to the spec, and how to improve things. So, if you can comprise a list of icons being used, and describe what they are being used for, and where,