On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote:
If you ask me, I think torrents should be integrated in the browser, no
other browser implements this and would make the torrent downloading
experience much more transparent to the user.
No other browser, except… Opera? :)
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 09:09:28PM -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote:
right before going to bed, but if one of us falls asleep, the other one
has to remember the rough minute:second marker for the next day (the
video window gets closed in the daytime - got real work to do!). (You
know how
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 07:08:19PM +, Debarshi Ray wrote:
Here is a feature proposal to add support for Exchange accounts in Online
Accounts (or GOA): https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointFive/Features/GoaExchange
Online Accounts (in Git master) has been taught how to handle Exchange
Hey, I'm sort of new to this, so maybe this isn't the best feature
proposal ever. Sorry.
I'm quite sure you all know what GNOME Shell Extensions are, and how
they're a great boon for this platform. If you haven't seen the GNOME
Shell Extensions repository and the wide variety of extensions
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 4:33 AM, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote:
If you ask me, I think torrents should be integrated in the browser, no
other browser implements this and would make the torrent downloading
experience much more transparent to the user.
After that you get the same workflow
On Mon, 2012-04-23 at 21:09 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote:
On Mon, 2012-04-23 at 17:52 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
Work is on-going to make Totem into that:
https://live.gnome.org/Design/Apps/Videos#Tentative_Design
The thumbnail view looks really nice! And the searching in
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 03:33 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
2012/4/24 Federico Mena Quintero feder...@gnome.org
* Some sort of connection with a BitTorrent client. I know
this is
treading on taboo ground, but I assume that a lot of people
download
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 09:29 +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
Why Web Services and not MAPI? Web Services sounds like going
through some fragile abstraction layer, MAPI seems more direct.
EWS is the protocol they say they'll support going forward; they've been
saying MAPI is obsolete (or at least
Hello Federico,
Em Mon, 2012-04-23 às 20:58 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero escreveu:
snip
From http://live.gnome.org/CodeOfConduct
Assume people mean well
From your mail:
The design team IS NOT welcome to:
* Second-guess maintainers or well-intentioned contributors.
* Block development
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 3:58 AM, Federico Mena Quintero
feder...@gnome.org wrote:
The design team IS NOT welcome to:
* Second-guess maintainers or well-intentioned contributors.
Surely the Design Team is also composed of well intentioned
contributors that only want the best for Gnome and do
hi Federico;
I think this email is not at all warranted - and it generates more
fuel for flames.
On 24 April 2012 02:58, Federico Mena Quintero feder...@gnome.org wrote:
The design team IS welcome to:
The design team IS NOT welcome to:
these elements contradict what you write below
*
On 04/22/2012 04:47 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
We haven't really gotten off the ground with 3.6 feature proposals
yet, so I'll make a start by announcing something that I hope to
complete for 3.6: A nice initial setup experience.
I have created a feature page describing this here:
W dniu 24 kwietnia 2012 02:32 użytkownik Danielle Madeley
danielle.made...@collabora.co.uk napisał:
I sort of like the idea of a totally fresh GNOME session starting up
with a Web and www.gnome.org/welcome/ in the browser, with lots of
little YouTube videos. That could be useful and
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Patryk Zawadzki pat...@pld-linux.org wrote:
W dniu 24 kwietnia 2012 02:32 użytkownik Danielle Madeley
danielle.made...@collabora.co.uk napisał:
I sort of like the idea of a totally fresh GNOME session starting up
with a Web and www.gnome.org/welcome/ in the
2012/4/24 Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote:
If you ask me, I think torrents should be integrated in the browser, no
other browser implements this and would make the torrent downloading
experience much more transparent to
OK first let us all please calm down (This does not apply to Emmanuele,
since he seems always calm :P)
We all have the best intentions at heart. I think Federico knows exactly
that the design team has best intentions. And I hope the design team knows
that Federico has the same intentions.
This
On 04/24/2012 04:33 AM, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
2012/4/24 Federico Mena Quintero feder...@gnome.org
mailto:feder...@gnome.org
* Some sort of connection with a BitTorrent client. I know this is
treading on taboo ground, but I assume that a lot of people download
torrents and then
I really like web and agree that adding torrent support would be awesome,
but a larger priority for me is more options for privacy/cookie handling.
As it is the only options (at least, that I see) are to accept all cookies,
only those from sites you visit, or none. No options for deleting cookies
2012/4/23 Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net:
Work is on-going to make Totem into that:
https://live.gnome.org/Design/Apps/Videos#Tentative_Design
Looks cool, the only issue I can see is actual video files may have
weird names (such as VID_20120424_123212.mp4 or [Freedom] Mobile
Suit Gundam
Hello Sergey,
thanks for your input.
2012/4/24 Sergey Udaltsov sergey.udalt...@gmail.com:
1. What about non-gtk apps not having IBus integration? How are they
going to be supported? Say, good old motif;)
So, gtk+ apps thankfully are able to switch the input method that they
use at runtime
I would like to take a moment to make a reflection.
Maintainers only get to decide what's done in their modules back then when
GNOME was organized in a maintainer centric fashion. However with 3.0 we
have moved towards a model where yet another force is included in the
decision making process,
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 11:08 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
* Assume that no one but them does design that is good for Gnome.
if you're designing for Gnome, then *by definition* you are on the
Gnome design team.
I designed the dynamic help menus. I don't think anybody thinks
of me as being on
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 10:54 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
I think an apology is in order.
That would require criticizing somebody in an inappropriate way first.
I don't see that here.
However I would have appreciated if Federico had elaborated on the
reasons and motivation for his post.
andre
Hi Rui
Everything else will continue to work (or not work) as it does now I'm
afraid. The imsettings package in Fedora takes care of setting up some
environment variables according to the user's locale at login time
which should continue to work. Of course any switching the user does
at
Em Tue, 2012-04-24 às 15:50 +0200, Andre Klapper escreveu:
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 10:54 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
I think an apology is in order.
That would require criticizing somebody in an inappropriate way first.
I don't see that here.
I don't agree. I find it rude and out-of-order,
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 15:06 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
Em Tue, 2012-04-24 às 15:50 +0200, Andre Klapper escreveu:
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 10:54 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
I think an apology is in order.
That would require criticizing somebody in an inappropriate way first.
I don't
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 10:54 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
Hello Federico,
Em Mon, 2012-04-23 às 20:58 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero escreveu:
snip
From http://live.gnome.org/CodeOfConduct
Assume people mean well
Federico made no statements as to anybody's intentions or motivations.
For
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 11:23:18PM +0200, Rui Tiago Cação Matos wrote:
that is meaningful to users. gnome-shell presents the currently in use
input source and the other configured ones in a status indicator and
menu (what now is the keyboard status indicator). It will also present
the
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 10:58 -0400, Shaun McCance wrote:
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 10:54 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
Hello Federico,
Em Mon, 2012-04-23 às 20:58 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero escreveu:
snip
From http://live.gnome.org/CodeOfConduct
Assume people mean well
Federico
On Mon, 2012-04-23 at 20:49 +0200, Piñeiro wrote:
During the last ATK/AT-SPI2 hackfest, wediscussed that the next step
would go a step further: 'accessibility-toolkit' would disappear,
plugins would also disappear, and the accessibility support would be a
integral part of GNOME toolkits and
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 16:11 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 10:58 -0400, Shaun McCance wrote:
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 10:54 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
Hello Federico,
Em Mon, 2012-04-23 às 20:58 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero escreveu:
snip
From
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org wrote:
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 16:11 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 10:58 -0400, Shaun McCance wrote:
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 10:54 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
Hello Federico,
Em Mon, 2012-04-23 às
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 12:57 +0200, Xan Lopez wrote:
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Patryk Zawadzki pat...@pld-linux.org
wrote:
W dniu 24 kwietnia 2012 02:32 użytkownik Danielle Madeley
danielle.made...@collabora.co.uk napisał:
I sort of like the idea of a totally fresh GNOME session
2012/4/24 Sergey Udaltsov sergey.udalt...@gmail.com:
My question was about layouts that are implemented through ibus, but
not xkb. For example, if user chosen Chinese IBus layout - what's
going to be entered into xterm? Will XKB layout be converted on the
fly from IBus layout?
IBus doesn't
Hi Olav,
On 24 April 2012 16:49, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote:
What would gnome-panel / GNOME fallback using people lack? Would they
still achieve the same except for not being able to see the input
source? Any plans for gnome-panel (just wondering)?
Honestly I didn't think of that
There are a few problems IIRC:
1. This needs to be explicitly enabled www.youtube.com/html5
no it does not. This has changed a few month ago. The only caveat I know
is that if you use Flashblock and don't have Flash it chokes until you
whitelist youtube in Flashblock.
2. It does (did?) not
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 12:57 +0200, Xan Lopez wrote:
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Patryk Zawadzki pat...@pld-linux.org
wrote:
W dniu 24 kwietnia 2012 02:32 użytkownik Danielle Madeley
danielle.made...@collabora.co.uk napisał:
I sort of like the idea of a totally fresh GNOME session
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org wrote:
Flash might still be needed for some things, but youtube is not one of
them. Its HTML5 version works just fine, so I see no reason to design
that page with that option as default.
Can't we self-host the videos? I'm not
No, I don't think xterm supports any kind of input method. xterm will
just work as it works now.
Right. That's what I expected.
Let's sat you have two layouts - in XKB and IBus, for the same
country. The user would be presented with only one - IBus (if you
decided it is superior, which it may
On 04/24/2012 05:13 PM, Colin Walters wrote:
On Mon, 2012-04-23 at 20:49 +0200, Piñeiro wrote:
During the last ATK/AT-SPI2 hackfest, wediscussed that the next step
would go a step further: 'accessibility-toolkit' would disappear,
plugins would also disappear, and the accessibility support
2012/4/24 Sergey Udaltsov sergey.udalt...@gmail.com:
Let's sat you have two layouts - in XKB and IBus, for the same
country. The user would be presented with only one - IBus (if you
decided it is superior, which it may well be!). The user would not be
able to choose the XKB one, effectively
What if the user is doing the install and first run offline? It would
completely break the experience.
Or is an internet connection a must when performing an install? I can
understand that it is recommended.
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Xan Lopez x...@gnome.org wrote:
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Piñeiro apinhe...@igalia.com wrote:
The change is trivial. It is only required to change the default value
of 'toolkit-accessibility' on
org.gnome.desktop.interface.gschema.xml.in.in. A one-liner patch.
Owner
=
Alejandro Piñeiro and
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 17:56 +0200, Rui Tiago Cação Matos wrote:
And, of course, there is a question
of performance - invoking setxkbmap (even calling corresponding XKB
APIs) is so much more expensive than changing current group in X
server...
Well, if you're running GNOME 3 I'd say
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 03:54 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote:
As for the Extension Hook Support, I want to get consensus of a
policy that we won't reject a patch that allows an otherwise
tricky/dirty/impossible hook into the Shell or Mutter for extensions
use, after passing the standard code
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Federico Mena Quintero
feder...@gnome.org wrote:
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 03:54 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote:
(In a way, I like thinking of some extensions as the correct answer to,
but we don't want two code paths and a preference. It helps keep
everyone
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 16:11 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
--8--
From: Maître D'
Subject: Spitting in the soup
The kitchen staff IS NOT welcome to:
* Spit in the soup
--8--
I didn't say you spat in the soup
Correct - nobody stated so far that anybody spat in the soup.
As you already
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote:
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 16:11 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
--8--
From: Maître D'
Subject: Spitting in the soup
The kitchen staff IS NOT welcome to:
* Spit in the soup
--8--
I didn't say you spat in the soup
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 18:33 +0200, Piñeiro wrote:
No, but as I mentioned in my original mail, it is not clear how to
implement it.
I'm not talking about the implementation details of the toggling
of the switch, but rather the fallout on the rest of the stack.
For example, (and I am working
As long as the user is free to quickly switch with a shortcut to
whatever other input source he wants I don't see that as a problem.
Well, if you do not provide GUI tools to configure the conflicting
XKB layout, the process is going to be cumbersome.
Can you elaborate on that? What exactly
On Sun, 2012-04-22 at 20:45 +0300, Rūdolfs Mazurs wrote:
Does design team use anything like meetbot?
http://meetbot.debian.net/Manual.html
As far as I know still no bots are used for managing and logging any
GNOME IRC meetings. Also see the short discussion here:
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote:
On Sun, 2012-04-22 at 20:45 +0300, Rūdolfs Mazurs wrote:
Does design team use anything like meetbot?
http://meetbot.debian.net/Manual.html
The A11y team has a meetbot for logging meetings. They are the only team I
know of
Em Tue, 2012-04-24 às 10:40 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna escreveu:
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Piñeiro apinhe...@igalia.com
wrote:
The change is trivial. It is only required to change the
default value
of 'toolkit-accessibility' on
Hi Emily,
On Sun, 2012-04-22 at 10:27 -0400, Emily Gonyer wrote:
Then the design team ought to be more open about what exactly 'their'
vision for gnome is, as well as open to other ideas/concepts.
Insisting on doing things their way, while being extremely vague as to
what exactly their way
Hi Emily,
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote:
Hi Emily,
On Sun, 2012-04-22 at 10:27 -0400, Emily Gonyer wrote:
Then the design team ought to be more open about what exactly 'their'
vision for gnome is, as well as open to other ideas/concepts.
Colin Walters walters at verbum.org writes:
I'm not talking about the implementation details of the toggling
of the switch, but rather the fallout on the rest of the stack.
So, here's a simple technical overview of how the a11y stack works for a GTK app
(Clutter is similar). Imagine this as
On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 00:31 +, Benjamin Otte wrote:
You can easily see that there is a very brittle link between step 2 and 3.
Toggling the switch to always-on would just mean we always load the plugin.
The big advantage in that approach is twofold:
A) a11y users don't have to hunt for
2012/4/24 Rui Tiago Cação Matos tiagoma...@gmail.com:
2012/4/24 Sergey Udaltsov sergey.udalt...@gmail.com:
(the option layout per window is must have).
Why is it a must have? I don't think it makes much sense actually.
I can confirm that layout per window is critical. I frequently
switch
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