Re: Tabbed windows in Mutter/Metacity

2009-07-13 Thread Allan Day
On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 00:29 +0200, Reinout van Schouwen wrote: > Op dinsdag 07-07-2009 om 09:18 uur [tijdzone -0400], schreef Sam H: > > > I would like to implement support for tabbed windows in Mutter, and > > was hoping for some helpful pointers. I envision tabbed windows > > working essentially

Re: Tabbed windows in Mutter/Metacity

2009-07-13 Thread Allan Day
On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 12:33 +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > On 7 Jul 2009, at 14:18, Sam H wrote: > > > Hey all, > > > > I would like to implement support for tabbed windows in Mutter, and > > was hoping for some helpful pointers. I envision tabbed windows > > working essentially the same way that ta

Re: Modulesets Reorganization

2010-06-02 Thread Allan Day
> > 2. The much touted homogeneity and consistent quality of GNOME is > > (imho) largely a thing of the past. There have been no organized UI > > reviews of new modules in a long time, the HIG has not been updated to > > match the UIs we see in current applications. > > Something we should fix? I

Re: My thoughts on fallback mode

2011-01-04 Thread Allan Day
On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 10:36 +0100, Johannes Schmid wrote: > Hi Christopher! > > > Besides... did modularity ever enslave a GNOME developer? Never. I expected > > more than a statement like that. > > This modularity prevents to create a solid user experience in various > ways because everything n

Re: My thoughts on fallback mode

2011-01-04 Thread Allan Day
> I don't see gnome-applets as part of GNOME 3. But it doesn't mean we > cannot ship gnome-applets 3.x. > > GNOME 3 is about gnome-shell. Gnome-applets will always be a fallback. A > fallback which includes gnome-applets would be nice. But it is a > still fallback. > > So the statement: gnome 3

Re: My thoughts on fallback mode

2011-01-04 Thread Allan Day
> Assume this: > - "Power-User" > - using Compiz/Sawfish/Whatever > - wants to use Compiz/Sawfish/Whatever with GNOME-Shell as he likes both > > What now? You said that you would like them to stay at GNOMEs, but how do you > want to achieve that? (that's a serious question!). By making GNOME 3

GNOME Shell UX validation [Was: My thoughts on fallback mode]

2011-01-04 Thread Allan Day
> Well, now that people are throwing percents at each other, it is a > very interesting point as such - does anybody know anything about > userbase whose experience GNOME3 is going to improve? I am not > ranting/trolling here, I am really interested. Was there any research > made? There is an evi

Cantarell? (Was: Re: Planned GNOME Shell UI changes (was Re: String and UI Change Announcement))

2011-01-12 Thread Allan Day
Given recent discussions regarding the use of this list, I'm unsure whether I should be responding to this question here. That said, I do want to ensure that people get answers to queries like this. Andrew Cowie wrote: > On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 12:33 -0500, Owen Taylor wrote: > > * The default font

Re: Fanza Icon Set

2011-01-24 Thread Allan Day
Hi Nick, This probably isn't the best list for this discussion though, to be fair, I don't know which one would be... Nick wrote: > I haven't seen any mention of a new icon set for Gnome 3 (forgive me if > I'm mistaken) but could I bring attention to the Faenza Icon set[1]? Is > there an opportun

Re: IRC channels in gnome development

2011-02-06 Thread Allan Day
Hi, Maciej Piechotka wrote: > Then show yourdesign team work! All I'm > hearing is that research have been done and the issue have been taken > into consideration during disussion but I DON'T have any references. I > cannot see logs of IRC (at least google is not showing them), blogs does > not di

Re: UI Mockup for Gnome 3.XX "Share" section of System Settings

2011-02-06 Thread Allan Day
Gendre Sebastien wrote: > So, I update it to a version 3. > > > News: > - Use the switch GTK Widget. > - Remove "Apply" and "Cancel" buttons. > - Add Bluetooth sharing option. > - Some changes on tabulation to be OK with the present Printer panel of > Control > Center. > - Add mochup for options

Re: IRC channels in gnome development

2011-02-08 Thread Allan Day
Hey Andy, Andy Wingo wrote: > Hi Alan, > > FWIW I mostly like GNOME 3, so I don't want to pile on the flamefest. > But this bothered me: > > On Sun 06 Feb 2011 15:27, Allan Day writes: > > > Even if you had records of every discussion, you wouldn't get t

Re: Release Notes time!

2011-03-10 Thread Allan Day
I'm going to start writing a first draft of the release notes very soon. There are still a bunch of apps that are missing from the preparatory notes [1], however. I know for certain that there have been improvements to gedit... What about Empathy? What about games? What about Rhythmbox? What about

Re: no way to change theme or fonts in System Settings?

2011-03-17 Thread Allan Day
On Thu, 2011-03-17 at 11:15 +0100, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi, > > Jasper St. Pierre wrote: > > The story I've heard is that we haven't supported themes because we > > make no guarantees about CSS class stability: CSS support was a nifty > > thing that was added so that we could put up a couple actors

Re: GNOME 3.2 ideas and plans

2011-03-23 Thread Allan Day
Guillaume Desmottes wrote: > Le mardi 22 mars 2011 à 10:02 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit : > > - Sadly, empathy is not a great chat application; with chat being such > > a prominent feature in 3.0, we really should be doing much better > > here. > > I'm sorry to hear that. Empathy is great. I de

Re: GNOME 3.2 ideas and plans

2011-03-23 Thread Allan Day
Matthias Clasen wrote: > With GNOME 3.0 going into code freeze any day now, it is high time > that we start looking beyond 3.0 and start collecting ideas and making > plans for what comes next. To that end, I have collected a list of > things that have fallen off the 3.0 train at one point or anot

What are the current HIG? [Was: GNOME 3.2 ideas and plans]

2011-03-23 Thread Allan Day
Richard Hughes wrote: > On 23 March 2011 11:08, Allan Day wrote: > > Software aside, we really need that new version of the HIG that we've > > been talking about (Calum has been taking this forward recently)! > > In related news, I have no idea what the HIG is supp

Re: GNOME 3.2 ideas and plans

2011-03-24 Thread Allan Day
Frederic Peters wrote: > Allan Day wrote: > > > Matthias Clasen wrote: > > > With GNOME 3.0 going into code freeze any day now, it is high time > > > that we start looking beyond 3.0 and start collecting ideas and making > > > plans for what comes next.

Re: GNOME 3.2 ideas and plans

2011-03-28 Thread Allan Day
Guillaume Desmottes wrote: > Le mercredi 23 mars 2011 à 11:08 +0000, Allan Day a écrit : > > I'd also like to see us concentrate on the design quality of our core > > applications. > > I'm starting planning goals for Empathy 3.2 and would like some input > from

Re: Musings on the contacts user experience

2011-04-29 Thread Allan Day
Hey Alex! This is great. I've been doing some work on this recently, and we seem to be thinking about the same problems (good thing!) Alexander Larsson wrote: > I've been looking at the contact feature for Gnome 3.2 [1], trying to > understand what we want from this and how it would look. The in

Re: GNOME Feature Proposal: Backup

2011-05-11 Thread Allan Day
Hi Michael, Michael Terry wrote: > Hello! You may remember me as the bloke that proposed the Déjà Dup > backup tool as a GNOME module a little back, right as modules were > being reorganized. > > I've been encouraged to try again as a Feature. I don't fully > understand the process, but I gathe

Re: GNOME Feature Proposal: Backup

2011-05-11 Thread Allan Day
Michael Terry wrote: > Hi, Allan. Thanks for your past and continuing help with design! :) > Answers below. > > On 11 May 2011 11:33, Allan Day wrote: > > This looks like an improvement on the UI that you presented the last > > time you proposed Deja Dup. It could sti

Re: GNOME Feature Proposal: Backup

2011-05-12 Thread Allan Day
Sam Thursfield wrote: > ... snip ... > > > > * Branding - a part of the core should be branded as a part of GNOME 3, > > and I don't think we'd want GNOME's new backup facility to visibly exist > > outside of GNOME. > > Could you clarify this one a little? On first read it sounds like "if > Deja

Re: no external panels for gnome-control-center [was Re: GNOME Feature Proposal: Backup]

2011-05-12 Thread Allan Day
On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 16:44 +0200, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi, > > Bastien Nocera wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 09:37 +0200, Ted Gould wrote: > >> Could someone please articulate the GNOME position for downstream > >> distributors of GNOME technologies? It seems to me the previous > >> position wa

Re: GNOME Feature Proposal: Backup

2011-05-12 Thread Allan Day
Michael Terry wrote: > On 11 May 2011 19:18, Allan Day wrote: > > Looking at your proposal it seems that you are proposing Deja Dup for > > inclusion in the GNOME core. You also seem to want it to be developed on > > LP and for it to simultaneously exist as a standal

Re: Feature Proposal - Sushi

2011-05-12 Thread Allan Day
Cosimo Cecchi wrote: > Hi everyone, > > It's too late for feature proposal, but I've been encouraged to post > this here anyway. > > Sushi [1] is a quick previewer application, targeting integration with > file managers such as Nautilus - you can read more about it in a blog > post I wrote some t

Re: GNOME Feature Proposal: Backup

2011-05-13 Thread Allan Day
Hi Michael, Thanks for all of this. Let me reiterate that I *really* want to see Deja Dup in 3.2. We just need to figure out how to make it work. Michael Terry wrote: > On 12 May 2011 17:05, Allan Day wrote: > > I presume you'd be happy for Deja Dup to become a GNOME Control Ce

Re: GNOME Feature Proposal: Backup

2011-05-13 Thread Allan Day
Michael Terry wrote: > On 13 May 2011 12:28, Allan Day wrote: > > Would you be willing to use GNOME Bugzilla? > > That specifically would be the hardest part of an infrastructure move. > Some important downstreams (Ubuntu and flavors) and my sister project > Duplicity ar

Re: GNOME Feature Proposal: Backup

2011-05-19 Thread Allan Day
Dave Neary wrote: > In general I'm interested in how dogmatic the "use GNOME infrastructure" > requirement is, in the case of each team what the reasons & motivations > are, and how we can integrate personal preferences of module maintainers > & translators for things like bug trackers & translati

Re: GNOME Feature Proposal: Backup

2011-05-19 Thread Allan Day
Michael Terry wrote: > It seems discussion died down around this, which means the status quo > of "just" a GNOME external app will prevail. > > But I'm going to go ahead and take some steps to increase potential > cooperation between Deja Dup and GNOME, for those that are interested: > > 1) I'll

Re: GNOME Feature Proposal: Backup

2011-05-20 Thread Allan Day
Dave Neary wrote: > Leaving aside "because that's the way it is" as a reason for a second, > what are the potential issues we'd have using Launchpad? > > * Bug reporters would have to have an easy way to report bugs against > Deja Dup through gnome.org > * GNOME developers would need to reassign

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-05-20 Thread Allan Day
Hi José, On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 09:52 -0400, José Aliste wrote: > Hi, > > I have a simple question (hopefully ddl is the right mail list for > this): how are we supposed to interact with the design team? it seems > that the best way is contacting them through irc in #gnome-design, but > what about

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-05-31 Thread Allan Day
Hi Dave, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi, > > Allan Day wrote: > > #gnome-design is good; so is the usability list. > > > > The ui-review Bugzilla keyword gets used in GNOME Shell and the control > > center. We could try that here too. > > Presumably you & o

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-01 Thread Allan Day
Dave Neary wrote: > By working real-time, you are preventing a relationship from being built > beyond a small group of people. Those people work closely together, but > have the appearance of a closed tight-knit clique from outside the > group. There is no transparency about what the design team is

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-06 Thread Allan Day
Dave Neary wrote: > Hi, > > Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > > can you please explain to me, in a short sentence, what do you want to > > achieve? not how, but precisely what. > > I have said that already: I want to enable the design team to work > productively with the entire GNOME development community

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-06 Thread Allan Day
Hi Joanie, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: > Hey all. > > I was planning on staying out of this one, conflict-avoidant creature > that I tend to be. But I'm with Dave: > > > To sum it all up, I > > believe the current dynamic of the design team is doing damage to GNOME > > as a community. > > I woul

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-06 Thread Allan Day
Johannes Schmid wrote: > Hi Allan! > > >> Yes. *I* was annoyed by the recent Deja Dup discussion, and felt that > >> the developer got short-changed at the end of the day. I was very > >> annoyed at the "systemd as external dependency" discussion, and the > >> message that some people following al

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-07 Thread Allan Day
Frederic Crozat wrote: > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Allan Day wrote: > > Dave Neary wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > >> > can you please explain to me, in a short sentence, what do you want to > >> > achieve? not

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-10 Thread Allan Day
Frederic Muller wrote: > On 06/07/2011 04:53 PM, Rodrigo Moya wrote: > > Also, while I'm not a designer, yesterday I wanted to propose some new > > stuff, and it was easy to get the design team to find a solution for > > proposals (https://live.gnome.org/Design/Proposals ), so from my (short) > >

Re: Testing out jhbuild

2011-08-01 Thread Allan Day
Owen Taylor wrote: > To me, the criterion for success is that someone can start from scratch, > without knowing much about Linux development and have a working build > within an hour or so, without having to babysit it. Any sort of > babysitting makes things much longer for everybody, and basicall

Re: GNOME user survey 2011 (v4)

2011-08-19 Thread Allan Day
Felipe Contreras wrote: > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 1:20 AM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) > wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Felipe Contreras >> wrote: >>> >>> Nothing is ever perfect, but having at least some results is better >>> than nothing. >> >>  Since you have repeated this assertion a

Re: GNOME user survey 2011 (v4)

2011-08-19 Thread Allan Day
Felipe Contreras wrote: > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Allan Day wrote: >> Felipe Contreras wrote: >>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 1:20 AM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) >>> wrote: >>>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Felipe Contreras >>>> wrote

Re: Where is the data?

2011-08-20 Thread Allan Day
Hey Giovanni, I'm being selective in my responses here... Giovanni Campagna wrote: > I'm sorry I couldn't read through the whole GNOME Survey v4 thread, but > it was just too long. What I read though is that data was collected and > extists. > Now I'd like to simply ask: where is it? > Where we

Re: Where is the data?

2011-08-20 Thread Allan Day
Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy wrote: > On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Allan Day wrote: >> I never found the time to do a proper write up of the user testing I >> did on the shell. It was brief and ad hoc; I can tell you that the >> five participants in my study were all able to co

Re: Where is the data?

2011-08-20 Thread Allan Day
More selective answers... :) On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Giovanni Campagna wrote: > Il giorno sab, 20/08/2011 alle 12.04 +0100, Allan Day ha scritto: > This is the first time I see the amount of users tested, and the exact > tasks involved. I think it should go somewhere in

Re: GNOME 3.1.90 beta released!

2011-09-01 Thread Allan Day
Hey Denis! On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Denis Washington wrote: > Am 01.09.2011 11:34, schrieb Frederic Peters: >> >> Hello all, >> >> This is 3.1.90, and it's out! It's the first beta of what will be >> GNOME 3.2, enjoy it while it's time, the next beta (3.1.91) will >> arrive next week. > >

Re: Empty Power panel in System Settings

2011-09-12 Thread Allan Day
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 3:21 AM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > I had a bug this week where the power was screwy and GNOME briefly > thought my laptop was a desktop. I was awfully surprised to see that > the Power panel in System Settings 3.2 has only one item "Suspend when > inactive for...". This looks r

Re: 3.4 Release Notes time - Help needed!

2012-03-14 Thread Allan Day
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Andre Klapper wrote: ... > time to start preparing the GNOME 3.4 release notes to tell users, > developers and press what's new and great in GNOME! > > This means: We need YOUR help as you know best! > > Please take two minutes: >  * What new features does your app

Re: A weather app for GNOME

2012-03-26 Thread Allan Day
Hi Giovanni, On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Giovanni Campagna wrote: > Hello desktop-devel, > > 3.4 is almost out, so it's time to start thinking about 3.5, and how > to make it even more wonderful. > As a quick afternoon hack, I built a Weather app, following the > designs at https://live.gnom

Re: Module Proposal: Zeitgeist

2012-04-18 Thread Allan Day
Seif Lotfy wrote: ... > There are 3 issues in discussion or in development where Zeitgeist > integration is reaching a halt due to the uncertainty of where Zeitgeist > stands: > > Epiphany (Web): There has long been discussions on how to deploy Zeitgeist > as a backend for Web. Web needed to rethi

Re: Feature Proposal: finding and rediscovering shared links

2012-04-21 Thread Allan Day
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Seif Lotfy wrote: ... > So a possible view for this feature can be done in Web: Links received can > then be automatically put in the queue of Web. And once visited can be taken > out of the queue. > > Another possible view would be a dialog for sent/received links

Re: Module Proposal: Zeitgeist

2012-04-21 Thread Allan Day
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Shaun McCance wrote: > On Sat, 2012-04-21 at 13:46 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Shaun McCance wrote: >> > On Sat, 2012-04-21 at 12:59 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: >> >> We have a design and a plan for finding >> >> and rem

Design in the open

2012-04-25 Thread Allan Day
Hi all, Apologies in advance for the long mail - there was no other way. There have been a few design-related threads on the list recently. I’m going to try and reboot those discussions in a slightly different and, I hope, more constructive mode. Let’s start with the big picture - design is impo

Re: 3.6 Feature: IBus/XKB integration

2012-04-25 Thread Allan Day
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Sergey Udaltsov wrote: >> I don't think you can infer that from the answers. I'm one of the >> people who said they use Compose. I don't particularly care which >> key it is, as long as I can reach it without taking my hands away >> from home row. > Well, a number

Re: Design in the open

2012-04-25 Thread Allan Day
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 9:55 AM, John Stowers wrote: > >> >> So there are lots of ways that we can do design better as a community, >> and contributors on this list can all play a part in helping to make >> us to be even more successful in this regard. It will take actions as >> well as words to m

Re: Design in the open

2012-04-25 Thread Allan Day
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Karen Sandler wrote: > On Wed, April 25, 2012 9:27 am, Allan Day wrote: > > Echoing what Brian said, I like these suggestions for improvement! Are > there any that we can turn into concrete initiatives that we can organize > soon and perhaps fu

Re: Design in the open

2012-04-25 Thread Allan Day
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Allan Day wrote: ... >>> * better testing facilities so people can test and give feedback on UX >>> changes before release time >> >> What would this entail? This sounds like it could be incredibly helpful if >> we could find

Re: 3.6 Feature: IBus/XKB integration

2012-04-26 Thread Allan Day
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 15:31 +0100, Sergey Udaltsov wrote: > >> no way to find the audience that would be unbiased? Are you just >> implying that the current userbase of GNOME is so geekish that fair >> survey among existing users wou

GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu

2012-04-26 Thread Allan Day
Hi all, Last release we introduced the ability for applications to define a GMenu (or 'application menu'). This means that applications now have a place to locate global application (as opposed to per window) menu items. Some applications have already started to use a GMenu, and while this is grea

Re: GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu

2012-04-26 Thread Allan Day
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 13:55 +0100, Allan Day wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Last release we introduced the ability for applications to define a >> GMenu (or 'application menu'). This means that applications

Re: GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu

2012-04-26 Thread Allan Day
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: ... > I believe we were talking about keeping File/Edit/View while adding a > GMenu. If so, the UI would be quite confusing if some things were > taken out of the normal File/Edit/View menus. If all we're talking > about is how Epiphany 3.4 wor

Re: Design in the open

2012-04-27 Thread Allan Day
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Luca Ferretti wrote: > 2012/4/25 Allan Day : ... > So, IMHO a design driven GNOME needs good desing documents. The > "design document is a written contract"[4] between designers and other > teams, more time you spend writing it, less time

Re: About "fast dial" contacts in Overview mode

2012-05-03 Thread Allan Day
Hey Petris, pec...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi everyone! > > Since GNOME Shell 3.2 I love feature of overview accessing contacts > database and looking up their status. However, while I understand > reasoning to have default behaviour to just open entry in Contacts > app, I would like to have fast acce

Re: Design in the open

2012-05-05 Thread Allan Day
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:19 AM, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: ... > As a way to solve these issues, I'd like to follow up on an idea which I > sketched during last year's Desktop Summit - namely, about constructing > a pattern language for Gnome's design based on the good things that what > we ha

Re: GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu

2012-05-07 Thread Allan Day
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Andrew Cowie wrote: > On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 13:55 +0100, Allan Day wrote: >> It would be great if we could improve on the current situation and >> ensure that all our applications present an appropriate set of items >> in their GMenu. >

Re: GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu

2012-05-07 Thread Allan Day
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Matteo Settenvini wrote: > Il giorno lun, 07/05/2012 alle 16.15 +1000, Andrew Cowie ha scritto: >> I ask this because Epiphany¹ has no menu, but does and a funky button >> over on the right that, upon investigation, turns out to be a menu has >> useful things like

Re: GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu

2012-05-07 Thread Allan Day
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Evandro Giovanini wrote: > On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Xan Lopez wrote: >> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Andrew Cowie >> wrote: >>> Is there a reference application doing this right? >>> >>> I ask this because Epiphany¹ has no menu, but does and a funky but

Re: Feature Proposal: finding and rediscovering shared links

2012-05-09 Thread Allan Day
Seif Lotfy wrote: > I created a new wiki page for this. Hylke and Garrett have been helping out > on the idea and the design. > > https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointFive/Features/FindingAndRediscoveringSharedLinks I'm confused. Your original proposal for this feature was to add functionality to Web

Re: Feature Proposal: finding and rediscovering shared links

2012-05-09 Thread Allan Day
Seif Lotfy wrote: > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Allan Day wrote: >> >> Seif Lotfy wrote: >> > I created a new wiki page for this. Hylke and Garrett have been helping >> > out >> > on the idea and the design. >> > >&

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-05-09 Thread Allan Day
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Frederic Peters wrote: >> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Andre Klapper wrote: >> > Lionel proposes to consider merging the login screen and the lock screen >> > as both are about logging in. >> > In the end Allan wrote "let's continue some place else." >> > >> > D

Re: 3.6 Feature: IBus/XKB integration

2012-05-12 Thread Allan Day
Frederic Peters wrote: > Jasper St. Pierre wrote: > >> We only have the development resources to ship one input method. It's >> going to need special code to integrate with Clutter and the St >> toolkit. If IBus is bad right now, we need to fix it. > > Or use fcitx instead of IBus? I honestly do n

Re: application menu design - contributing to the wiki on live.gnome.org

2012-05-16 Thread Allan Day
Hey! Feel free to use the playground space for your ideas. That's what it's there for. :) Allan On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 5:00 AM, Pigeon Lips wrote: > Hi All,  a very friendly person on the gnome IRC put me on this mailing > list. > > Long story short i wanted to add an article to your design > w

Re: live image

2012-05-18 Thread Allan Day
Hey Ray, Ray Strode wrote: ... > I put together a live image with a jhbuild built in it here: > > http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/gnome/misc/testing/GNOME-3.5.1-LiveUSB.iso ... > It's a little hacked together, at the moment.  I'd like to get the > process I used more refined and potentially automated s

Re: Introducing Calendar

2012-05-28 Thread Allan Day
Erick - this is fantastic. I see that you've been in touch with Jon and Jimmac about the design; feel free to keep d-d-l updated on your progress. Jason Simanek wrote: ... >> Now, the call for help is for someone on the Design Team to step >> forwward to take care of the design parts of the devel

Re: taking features away (compact view removed from Nautilus)

2012-07-02 Thread Allan Day
Adam Dingle wrote: > I realized recently to my surprise and dismay that the compact view has been > removed from Nautilus: Adam, if you wanted to discuss this change, you could have done so on the bug or on the Nautilus mailing list, or by asking on #gnome-design. I would have been happy to have

Re: taking features away (compact view removed from Nautilus)

2012-07-02 Thread Allan Day
Federico Mena Quintero wrote: ... > The anti-pattern for both removals is like, "there's some peeling paint > in this house - let's bulldoze the neighborhood". ... How do you know that was the reason for the decision, if the background hasn't been explained? The anti-pattern for that statement is

Re: Re,keyboard bugs (Re: Touch & Mobile)

2012-09-25 Thread Allan Day
> anish patil writes: >> To expedite caribou bux fixing and future development work, as Daiki >> Ueno already written eekboard which has more i18n features. I would >> like to see Daiki Ueno as new Caribou maintainer :) Thanks for bringing this up Anish. We really need someone to take over as Car

Re: GNOME Games split

2012-10-17 Thread Allan Day
Robert Ancell wrote: >> I wonder: are you looking for maintainers for any of these games, or >> are you going to take charge of all of them? Also, are any of these >> deemed to be "core" right now? > > We're currently discussing the maintainership of them at the moment: > https://mail.gnome.org/ar

Re: Icons in notification area

2012-10-31 Thread Allan Day
Hey Dulek, We don't encourage minimize to tray or similar patterns for GNOME 3. That was always a big usability problem in GNOME 2 and we're trying to make things simpler and easier to use. In general, applications should have a visible window while they are running, although there are minor exce

Re: GNOME Games split

2012-11-14 Thread Allan Day
Thomas H.P. Andersen wrote: >>> When I looked at this last, I came up with the shortlist of aisleriot, >>> sudoku, iagno and tetravex. These seem to cover the categories you >>> describe above. They also have concepts that are clear and easy to >>> pick up. While people might like mines, I don't t

Re: GNOME Games split

2012-11-16 Thread Allan Day
Allan Day wrote: > Thomas H.P. Andersen wrote: >>>> When I looked at this last, I came up with the shortlist of aisleriot, >>>> sudoku, iagno and tetravex. These seem to cover the categories you >>>> describe above. They also have concepts that are clear

Re: Fallback mode is going away - what now ?

2012-11-23 Thread Allan Day
Matthias Clasen wrote: >> to be fair, I'd envision this as a completely separate session that >> you need to install and select, similar to what Ubuntu does — >> especially if we want to call it "GNOME Classic". Agreed. > I don't think a separate session will work very well for this - for > one

Re: Fallback mode is going away - what now ?

2012-11-23 Thread Allan Day
Florian Müllner wrote: ... >>> The Tweak Tool shouldn't have anything to do with extensions. They are >>> something that you install and run as a part of the system, not >>> something to be "tweaked" via settings. > > While I agree with you that gnome-tweak-tool (and package managers > (*)) are no

Re: steam games

2013-02-14 Thread Allan Day
Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: ... > What do people think about this? If there is agreement what would be a good > way to track? Worth having a GNOME Goal to track this? Seems worthwhile to track this. How many bugs and affected modules are we talking about here? Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org

Re: steam games

2013-02-15 Thread Allan Day
Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > Certainly, the first one I filed is this one: > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=693551 ... >> I found it a surprisingly smooth experience given its early stage. >> I have however spotted one issue: Adjusting the master volume in-game >> via the corresponding

Release Notes Time!

2013-02-27 Thread Allan Day
Hi all, It's that time again! GNOME 3.8 is due for release on 27 March: that means we have about two weeks to get the release notes fully written - that's not much time at all. Enter a trance-like state. Cast your mind back over the last six months. Ask yourself: is there anything I have done tha

Re: Possible to fix glaring Gjs API issues before GNOME 4?

2013-02-28 Thread Allan Day
Javier Jardón wrote: > On 28 February 2013 08:26, Dan Winship wrote: >> >> But it seems like it would be a good idea to start explicitly noting >> planned future ABI breaks in some way, somewhere, so nothing gets >> forgotten when it does come, and so people can see the big picture more >> easily

Re: Release Notes Time!

2013-03-04 Thread Allan Day
Some of you have been awesome and have given me nice notes on what you did over the past 6 months. The rest of you are very bad people. There is time to redeem yourselves, but the window of opportunity is closing. Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/

Re: Release Notes Time!

2013-03-08 Thread Allan Day
This is your final call! The Release Notes are pretty much done and I'm looking to get them nailed down at the beginning of next week. If you have anything that should be included and isn't [1], please fill in the wiki page [2] asap. Allan [1] https://git.gnome.org/browse/release-notes/tree/?h=g

Re: Bijiben

2013-03-13 Thread Allan Day
Hi Pierre-Yves, Pierre-Yves Luyten wrote: > On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 17:31:21 +0100, Andre Klapper > wrote: >> (...) Still we *highly* encourage you to >> communicate your plans for your projects early. > I'm requesting a new module inclusion : Bijiben > It's another note taking application [1] - goa

GSoC Internship Ideas

2013-03-27 Thread Allan Day
Hi all, Marina mentioned to me that we still need more ideas for this year's GSoC [1]. If you would like to mentor someone, please get in touch: it's really important that we have enough mentors and internship ideas. If you are willing to be a mentor but aren't sure about what you'd work on, I ha

Re: What can you tell new about Content Selection?

2013-04-08 Thread Allan Day
er application. Here's Allan Day on the > subject, and a wiki page: > http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/2012/05/10/gnome-design-update-part-two/ > https://live.gnome.org/GnomeOS/Design/Whiteboards/ContentSelection Me and Jon were investigating this for a while, but it is depend

Re: [GSoC '13]Gnome Tweak Tool UI Refresh Project

2013-04-17 Thread Allan Day
Hi Vishrut, I came up with some wireframes for the Tweak Tool [1], which I'd be happy to discuss. You should also make contact with John Stowers, who is the Tweak Tool maintainer. Best wishes, Allan [1] https://raw.github.com/gnome-design-team/gnome-mockups/master/tweak-tool/tweak-tool-wirefra

Feature proposal: combined system status menu

2013-04-22 Thread Allan Day
Hi all, This is something that me, Jon and Jakub have been thinking about for some time, and is now at the stage where we can start to think about implementation. I'm proposing it as a feature for 3.10 [1]. The main element of the design is to combine the sound, network, bluetooth, power and user

Touchscreen Compatibility [was: Feature proposal: combined system status menu]

2013-04-22 Thread Allan Day
Hi Alberto, Alberto Ruiz wrote: >> The main element of the design is to combine the sound, network, >> bluetooth, power and user menus into a single menu. This will enable >> us to resolve a number of UX issues we've encountered with the >> existing design (badness on touch, difficulties having t

Re: Feature proposal: combined system status menu

2013-04-22 Thread Allan Day
Part two of my reply. :) Alberto Ruiz wrote: ... >> More details are outlined on the wiki [2]. If you do look at the >> designs, please pay particular attention to the example scenarios - >> these give a clearer idea of what the menu will actually look like. >> The designs aren't finalised yet, s

Re: Feature proposal: combined system status menu

2013-04-22 Thread Allan Day
Jasper St. Pierre wrote: >> > Otherwise, the UX of the giant dialog looks good to me, and I'm >> > already starting to implement it. (But where's the avatar?) Avatar? >> Excellent. Is there a bug to track it? > > Not yet. It's in a local branch on my system, as it's nowhere near > publishable qu

Re: Feature proposal: combined system status menu

2013-04-22 Thread Allan Day
Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > On Mon, 2013-04-22 at 14:36 +0100, Allan Day wrote: > >> The main element of the design is to combine the sound, network, >> bluetooth, power and user menus into a single menu. > > The update proposal [1] lists the following items as proble

Re: Feature proposal: combined system status menu

2013-04-22 Thread Allan Day
Hey Giovanni! Giovanni Campagna wrote: > As one of the implementors of the current status icons, and current > developer of gnome-shell, I can tell it's a small can of worms, but that's > not what this is about. > Rather, what I'd like to point out is that, in my opinion, this needs more > thinki

Re: Feature proposal: combined system status menu

2013-04-22 Thread Allan Day
Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > Thanks, I must have missed it. I did peruse it and it's still an extra > click and misses the convenience of going to the network menu and hitting > vpn on. If you're doing a lot of it I can see it getting a little > irritating. Yep, that's a downside of the plan. As

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