3.6 Feature: Exchange support in Online Accounts (or GOA)

2012-04-23 Thread Debarshi Ray
Here is a feature proposal to add support for Exchange accounts in Online Accounts (or GOA): https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointFive/Features/GoaExchange Online Accounts (in Git master) has been taught how to handle Exchange accounts using Exchange Web Services [1]. This means that a user can go to

Introducing Photos

2012-05-04 Thread Debarshi Ray
Hello everybody! Around 10 days ago I started implementing Photos as laid out in these designs: https://live.gnome.org/Design/Apps/Photos The Git tree is at: http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-photos Currently the application does not do much other than showing a blank window, but most of the

Sharing widgets between GNOME 3 applications

2012-05-07 Thread Debarshi Ray
The newly designed (or redesigned) GNOME 3 applications have some common UI elements. For example, if you look at the following designs, you will notice that the main toolbar, selection toolbar, main icon view, etc. are quite similar: + https://live.gnome.org/Design/Apps/Boxes +

Re: Sharing widgets between GNOME 3 applications

2012-05-07 Thread Debarshi Ray
The newly designed (or redesigned) GNOME 3 applications have some common UI elements. For example, if you look at the following designs, you will notice that the main toolbar, selection toolbar, main icon view, etc. are quite similar: Sorry for being so naive but why couldn't this be part

Re: Introducing Photos

2012-05-09 Thread Debarshi Ray
hello from Yorba, makers of Shotwell. Hi, Adam! We met in Berlin at the Collabora party during the Desktop Summit. You probably remember me as one of the authors of Solang. For those who don't know Solang (http://git.gnome.org/browse/solang) was a photo manager that I wrote during the dying

Introducing libzapojit

2012-05-23 Thread Debarshi Ray
Hello everybody, I have been working on a GLib/GObject wrapper for the Skydrive and Hotmail APIs: https://www.gitorious.org/libzapojit At the moment its dependencies include json-glib-1.0, rest-0.7, libsoup-2.4 and goa-1.0. If required, goa-1.0 can be made optional. I would like to move it to

Re: Introducing libzapojit

2012-05-30 Thread Debarshi Ray
I would like to move it to GNOME infrastructure and make a release in time for 3.5.2 Done. The first release, version 0.0.1 is available from: http://download.gnome.org/sources/libzapojit/0.0/ Happy hacking, Debarshi -- KR is like the Bible. The fervent read it from end to end, the

Re: libzapojit 0.0.1

2012-05-31 Thread Debarshi Ray
Hey Debarshi, just a few more questions, so we can sort this new dependency properly: - Does it have any dependencies besides glib ? libsoup, librest ? Apart from those 3, it uses json-glib for dealing with the JSON sent by the server, and gnome-online-accounts for the OAuth2 tokens for

Re: GNOME 3.6 Blocker Report

2012-08-21 Thread Debarshi Ray
=== GNOME-CONTROL-CENTER === gnome-online-accounts shows No online accounts configured when there are online accounts configured https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=682175 Initial patch that needs more work I am looking into it. Cheers,

Re: Recommended office suite?

2012-09-03 Thread Debarshi Ray
I'm also under the impression that there are a lot of support for LibreOffice in the Gnome community, and I was told that Documents has a dependency on it (causing Documents not to be included in the Gnome Ubuntu flavor). Interesting. Documents, as a core app, is much more fundamental to

Re: GNOME 3.7 Schedule Draft

2012-09-22 Thread Debarshi Ray
Why is the 3.7.1 release before the Release Team meets to discuss the feature proposals? I am assuming that the meeting is meant to decide whether or not to accept a feature. Happy hacking, Debarshi -- http://i.imgur.com/Z7jjX.jpg pgpqU9EQ7qBRC.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Question About File Roller

2012-10-16 Thread Debarshi Ray
What I ask for is a place for user support of File Roller. Do you have one? #gnome-hackers on GIMPNet Cheers, Debarshi -- http://i.imgur.com/Z7jjX.jpg pgpkMunqMrJ3K.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list

Re: Question About File Roller

2012-10-16 Thread Debarshi Ray
Do you accept questions like I cannot open RAR on Fedora. I do know the answer. But that's the kind of user support question I mean. Yes, we do accept such questions. :-) Cheers, Debarshi pgpM9N5SnKJrv.pgp Description: PGP signature ___

Re: Gnome platform overview

2012-11-08 Thread Debarshi Ray
No gnome-online-account, zapojit, libgdata appear. I thought that I would find these in platform overview since they are both part of the core gnome user experience and documented API. [...] To the original question: we have always had the problem of deciding what goes into the PO. Is it

Re: Fallback mode is going away - what now ?

2012-11-21 Thread Debarshi Ray
It won't go in the Settings. Why not? Why was the forced fallback in Settings instead of the Tweak Tool in the first place? Cheers, Debarshi -- There are two hard problems in computer science: cache invalidation, naming things and off-by-one errors. pgpraCqiskS4Y.pgp Description: PGP

Re: Dropping fallback mode in 3.8

2012-11-21 Thread Debarshi Ray
The decision is all nice and well. however this will force people that don't have the latest and greatest accelerated hardware to switch to something else. most PCs that are more that 2 years old are probably out of the game. I am typing this from a five and a half years old Macbook running

Re: Concerning Keyboard Status Menu

2012-11-23 Thread Debarshi Ray
So you want to keep of track all useful engines? What's good for that? Yes. The good thing is that users, who are not familiar with all the politics of free software input method frameworks and engines, get to choose from a list of good quality engines. They do not have to go searching all over

Re: Concerning Keyboard Status Menu

2012-11-23 Thread Debarshi Ray
No, you are making things even worse. [...] (They are likely to try so because current engines are virtually all inferior to those found in closed-source system) BTW, on Redmond OS or Mac OS X, if you Google/Baidu for input methods, most of them would just work. So why not fix and improve

Re: Concerning Keyboard Status Menu

2012-11-24 Thread Debarshi Ray
The thing for Chinese input method is: Few of them are doing a good job. Styling of Chinese, dialect, modern Chinese cultures idioms *varies*. Even the big commercial input method failed to achieve a good job on every aspect mentioned above. That's why you saw several of commercial input

Re: En-dash versus em-dash

2012-12-10 Thread Debarshi Ray
TL;DR: It's 2012. The compiler understands UTF-8 and defaults to it. Use it :) As I discovered recently, gjs does not like Unicode characters in string literals. Cheers, Debarshi -- There are two hard problems in computer science: cache invalidation, naming things and off-by-one errors.

Re: En-dash versus em-dash

2012-12-10 Thread Debarshi Ray
You are likely referring to: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=680730 Actually I was referring to https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=689601 Cheers, Debarshi -- There are two hard problems in computer science: cache invalidation, naming things and off-by-one errors.

Re: Privacy/Security Friends of GNOME campaign?

2012-12-18 Thread Debarshi Ray
Most of it isn't actually. I'm pretty certain that most of the popular protocols are implemented directly in telepathy. By popular if you mean SIP, XMPP (including link-local) and IRC, then yes. The long list of fringe and locale specific protocols still come from libpurple. Cheers, Debarshi

Re: Another showstopper review for 3.8

2013-03-13 Thread Debarshi Ray
GNOME-DOCUMENTS https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=686527 Pickup ownCloud accounts from GOA OwnCloud feature completion - I'll drop this is a simple patch doesn't appear before .92

Re: How long should it take to fix a obvious memory leak?

2013-04-04 Thread Debarshi Ray
This touches a general unsolved issue: Sharing the maintenance burden of deprecated modules across distributors who ship enterprise / long-term support versions. Same problem e.g. for gnome-vfs, libgnome, ... I guess if somebody offered maintainership, nobody would refuse. It's all

3.10 Feature: Integrate Zimbra in GNOME

2013-04-09 Thread Debarshi Ray
I would like to propose the following feature for 3.10: Integrate Zimbra in GNOME https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointNine/Features/Zimbra We already have most of the pieces of the puzzle (IMAP/SMTP, CalDAV, CardDAV) in place, so it is a matter of tying them up together and letting users

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Debarshi Ray
Hey, On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:07:23PM +0200, Alexandre Franke wrote: Anyway this is really not what was the most important point to me in my previous email and you didn't answer the question I really cared about, so I'm asking again: is there a way for maintainers to opt out of the github

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:07:23PM +0200, Alexandre Franke wrote: On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote: We should pick our fights, on the other hand, GitHub has released more open source code and tools than the gitorious community. We accept money from Google

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 03:38:00PM +0200, Luis Menina wrote: I agree that everyone should be free to pick their fights. I agree that you you are free to pick yours and have them different from mine. Do you agree that mine can be different from yours? And, yet, you use GMail. Could we

Re: Passive resistance [was: Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror]

2013-08-16 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 04:50:14PM +0200, Matteo Settenvini wrote: those services have the same problems of github, and free alternatives do exist. So, for starters ... - What is the free alternative to Google Hangouts? - What is the free alternative to Twitter with the same user base? This

Re: Correct .doap file syntax for the name tag

2013-08-22 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:48:11AM +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 12:15:32AM +0200, Andrea Veri wrote: 2. many other scripts are relying on name matching the exact repository-name. Which ones? No script that I am aware of uses this to figure out the repository name. It

Re: Middle click, dumbing down Slashdotted

2013-09-26 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:34:49PM +0300, Ionut Biru wrote: How often do you use this functionality in your daily use of gnome? please answer honestly and I want a straight answer, don't give me a marketing answer. I do regularly mix middle click copy / paste with ctrl+c/v copy / paste.

3.12 features: better integration with Facebook and Windows Live

2013-10-07 Thread Debarshi Ray
Hello everybody, I would like to propose these two features for GNOME 3.12: - https://wiki.gnome.org/ThreePointEleven/Features/FacebookPhotos - https://wiki.gnome.org/ThreePointEleven/Features/WindowLiveMail In short, you would be able to see your Facebook photos in Photos, and use your Windows

Re: 3.12 features: better integration with Facebook and Windows Live

2013-10-07 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Mon, Oct 07, 2013 at 01:46:27PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: On Mon, 2013-10-07 at 12:22 +, Debarshi Ray wrote: - https://wiki.gnome.org/ThreePointEleven/Features/WindowLiveMail In short, you would be able to ... use your Windows Live (outlook.com, live.com, hotmail.com) email from

Re: GNOME keyring unlocking

2013-10-10 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 01:13:55PM +0300, p10 wrote: I just transitioned from Thunderbird to Evolution + GNOME online accounts and found out there's one big drawback (at least for me it's very annoying) - autologin doesn't unlock the keyring . Stef had some ideas:

Re: tracker 0.16 vs 0.18

2013-11-24 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 03:53:06PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: Needs global coordination, and should have been discussed here. The jhbuild moduleset for 3.12 is still on 0.16. So is the Continuous manifest. I'm looking at switching to master now, but: are the Tracker maintainers on board

Re: App menu Help/About consistency

2013-12-10 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 10:32:23AM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote: Terminal and Evince purposefully do not have Quit in the app menu for this reason gnome-terminal Git master does have a Quit in the app menu that only closes the current window. Cheers, Debarshi -- Wearing non-prescription

Re: Fix wrong FSF's address in in source files

2014-01-29 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:55:08AM +0100, Daniel Mustieles Garc?a wrote: gnome-online-accounts Sure, go ahead. Thanks, Debarshi -- Wearing non-prescription glasses and embracing obscurity doesn't necessarily make you a hipster. -- Anonymous pgphNaS0sF5VU.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: libgsystem as a shared library

2014-02-05 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Wed, Feb 05, 2014 at 03:21:06PM +, Colin Walters wrote: On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.net wrote: What was the issue that happened in Fedora package review? Why doesn't it apply to our copylibs right now, or e.g. libgd? I think no one

Re: libmediaart required for Tracker

2014-02-10 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 03:16:12PM +0100, Juan A. Suarez Romero wrote: But we could have the inverse relation too: libmediaart could use Grilo to fetch the thumbnails from webservices, and then download it and stores in local disk following the spec. Grilo would only provide the URL (using,

Re: UI Freeze Blockers

2014-02-14 Thread Debarshi Ray
I would like to propose this one: * 724306 gnome-documents: Recent GTK+ does not like it when the titlebar is reset on a realized window Cheers, Debarshi -- Wearing non-prescription glasses and embracing obscurity doesn't necessarily make you a hipster. --

Re: UI tests require modifying homedir

2014-02-28 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 05:00:02PM +0100, Vadim Rutkovsky wrote: Moreover, we can copy some of the test-data into homedir and then clean it up after tests complete. Continous do not have any problems with that but then running 'make check' on users local machine would break the user's homedir

Re: [GS 3.11.90] Unable to search applications by their original names in overview

2014-03-02 Thread Debarshi Ray
I am on fedora rawhide with GS 3.11.90. I noticed that while searching in overview I am not able to reach the application by its original name. Searching for 'Fil.. would give me Files but not if I search for Nautilus It is a bug: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=725023 Happy

Re: Displaying wallpapers in /usr/share/backgrounds/ in settings

2014-03-15 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 12:22:49AM +0100, Matteo Settenvini wrote: I think at least Nautilus creates a Wallpapers subdirectory when you right-click on an image and select to set it as a background. Which I find a very good idea, since I like having backgrounds separated e.g. from my holiday

Re: GNOME 3.14 Blocker Bugs (week 33)

2014-08-12 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 06:32:47PM +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: == gnome-control-center == background: thumbnails are tiny in 3.13.3 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=732375 Debarshi and Bastien discussed; might be fixed already but there is one patch left in

Re: GNOME 3.14 Blocker Report (week 36)

2014-09-15 Thread Debarshi Ray
Hey, On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 11:42:45PM +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: == gnome-online-accounts == Google Online Account Password Unexpectedly Fails https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=734298 I think this is a duplicate of this evolution-data-server bug that was a fallout from some

Re: GNOME 3.14 Blocker Report (week 38, what's left.)

2014-09-17 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 03:42:17PM +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: gnome-photos: g_str_hash(): gnome-photos killed by SIGSEGV https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=735746 Stacktrace available but no further investigation yet. I have attached a fix. I will wait a bit for the Tracker folks

Re: Discouraging use of sync APIs

2015-02-09 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 10:47:37AM +, Philip Withnall wrote: I guess there are two approaches: making async APIs easier to use; and discouraging use of sync ones. I think the GAsyncResult framework we?ve got is pretty good, and I can?t think of a way to simplify it. One convention that I

Re: Discouraging use of sync APIs

2015-02-09 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 12:53:46PM +, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: hi; On 9 February 2015 at 12:40, Debarshi Ray rishi...@lostca.se wrote: On Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 11:14:46AM +, Philip Withnall wrote: On Mon, 2015-02-09 at 10:57 +, Debarshi Ray wrote: One convention that I like

Re: Discouraging use of sync APIs

2015-02-09 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 06:52:13AM -0500, Ondrej Holy wrote: We already have g_file_read_async, it was probably typo, however I wonder which methods doesn't have async versions? Would be probably good start to implemented them if there are any. I meant that currently: - g_file_read_async is

Re: Discouraging use of sync APIs

2015-02-09 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 11:14:46AM +, Philip Withnall wrote: On Mon, 2015-02-09 at 10:57 +, Debarshi Ray wrote: One convention that I like is to use a _sync suffix for sync APIs, instead of an _async suffix for async ones, because it lets me spot synchronous calls with grep

Re: GNOME 3.16 Blocker Report

2015-03-01 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 05:34:24PM +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: Blocker bugs are listed on your product's overview page: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/page.cgi?id=browse.html [...] === gnome-documents == List view looks messy https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723843 [...] ===

Re: Search Providers

2015-01-29 Thread Debarshi Ray
You could get the best of both worlds by doing what gnome-documents does (ie. use an inactivity-timeout): https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-documents/tree/src/application.js#n133 That way, your process does not linger for ever, but it stays around long enough to cache a quick series of searches.

Re: Getting error in ./configure of gnome-terminal

2015-06-22 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 07:04:20PM +0300, Kevin Wilson wrote: checking for NONE/share/dbus-1/interfaces/org.gnome.ShellSe archProvider2.xml... no configure: error: gnome-shell search provider requested but interface definition file not found Assuming that you have gnome-shell installed

Re: gnome-photos in jhbuild

2015-10-25 Thread Debarshi Ray
Hey, On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 08:49:02PM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > I tried to build gnome-photos today and noticed it is broken in jhbuild > on Fedora. :( > gnome-photos depends on dleyna-renderer, which in jhbuild is > provided by pkgconfig(dleyna-renderer-service-1.0), but this .pc

Re: [Builder] Developer experience (DX) hackfest 2016

2015-12-27 Thread Debarshi Ray
Hey, [Removed a few mailing lists from CC] On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 02:49:34PM -0800, Christian Hergert wrote: > * Remote video? (assuming participants are comfortable with that) We did run a live stream on Google Hangouts during the first day of the Content Apps Hackfest in Madrid. Instead of

Re: gnome github

2015-12-27 Thread Debarshi Ray
Hey, On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 04:39:23PM +, Patrick Welche wrote: > There is a rather good pull request waiting for me at > > https://github.com/GNOME/dasher/pull/2 > > I was under the impression though that github is one way - if I apply > it on github, will it make its way back

Re: [Builder] Developer experience (DX) hackfest 2016

2015-12-28 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 10:57:35PM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: > It is easy to do streaming with free software, in a way that lets > everyone watch with free software, Incorrect. It is possible, but it is not easy... > and I know people who would be glad > to help you do this. ... and this

Re: GNOME techonologies used by Mozilla

2015-11-27 Thread Debarshi Ray
Hey, On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 03:30:29PM +0530, Pranav Kant wrote: > Here[1] is the list that Sahil has compiled for GNOME projects on which > Mozilla directly or indirectly relies on > [1] > https://docs.google.com/document/d/12NyQXCnnyO61vqHB8VyYqtcN4xxfY0L8NELjfPrYRAA/edit As was already

Re: Adding context to strings in the shortcut windows

2016-02-01 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 09:33:47PM -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Piotr Dr?g wrote: > > I really love the shortcut windows that you are introducing this > > cycle, but I'm concern about translation. I would like to add a > > requirement to

Re: GSoC 2016

2016-03-10 Thread Debarshi Ray
Hey, On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 10:11:16PM +0530, Sukant Kumar wrote: > i have gone through the ideas page of gnome and i am interested in > *photos:upload to google photos project* Did you not receive my response to your earlier email? Welcome to GNOME! Cheers, Rishi pgpibub3WqBCd.pgp

GNOME Photos plans for 3.22

2016-03-31 Thread Debarshi Ray
Hello everybody, GNOME 3.20 was a busy cycle for Photos, with a lot of activity from new contributors, and we want to carry that momentum into 3.22. While we have a roadmap [1] to list the priority bugs and features for the near future, I want to draw your attention to two big things that we want

Re: how do I report this bug? Or is it a bug?

2016-03-30 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 07:44:24AM -0500, Stephen Adler wrote: > Any idea of how gdm ended up doing this to my video settings in vmware? > Is this a gnome bug? a fedora bug? a vmware bug? > > Any advice is greatly appreciated. Filing a bug at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=gdm

Re: Gnome Flatpak build system, descriptions and questions

2016-08-27 Thread Debarshi Ray
Hey, On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 10:17:04AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > No. I used to do this, but stopped a couple years ago because it was > pointless. Nobody should trust my key, so why use it? Why shouldn't anybody trust my key if it has been signed by other members of the community? By

Re: irc.gimp.org is now available via Matrix (was: Re: Thoughs about communication)

2017-03-02 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Thu, Mar 02, 2017 at 05:56:25PM -0500, Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list wrote: > I'm missing some rooms though, like #nautilus or #gnome-photos etc Nitpick: it is just #photos. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org

Re: Building GNOME in restrictive network environments

2017-08-02 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 01:29:09PM +0100, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: > * Some modules clone git:// submodules. Please be on the lookout for > these. For example, this is .gitmodules in gnome-online-accounts: > > # Bad > [submodule "telepathy-account-widgets"] > path =

Re: Paperwork / Gnome's dos and don'ts

2017-05-17 Thread Debarshi Ray
Hey, On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 09:55:15AM +, jfle...@kwain.net wrote: > - Libpillowfight (image processing): > https://github.com/openpaperwork/libpillowfight > > In the long term, I will try to replace them by developing alternatives > based on GObject Introspection. For what it is worth,

Re: [gnome-terminal/vte] What about to add an action to "Select All and Copy"?

2017-05-13 Thread Debarshi Ray
Hey, On Tue, May 09, 2017 at 01:08:24PM +0800, xiaofeng wrote: > When I use the "Select All" action, the next step is always being "Copy", > what about your next step? If that's the most case, what about to add an > action to bind "Select All" and "Copy"? I am quite used to doing ctrl+a ctrl+c

Re: Updating GNOME Goals?

2017-09-01 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Fri, Sep 01, 2017 at 12:32:42PM +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > Before committing to tons more search providers, I'd like to see a bug > and some development effort dedicated to make the providers we already > ship more efficient. As for a bug, there is:

GNOME Online Accounts 3.30 won't have Telepathy support

2017-10-19 Thread Debarshi Ray
Hello everybody, As we start the 3.27.x / 3.28 development cycle with this week's 3.27.1 release, I'd like to notify you that I want to remove the Telepathy integration from GNOME Online Accounts in another 6 months starting from 3.29.1. Stated differently, when GNOME 3.30 gets released in the

Re: GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-21 Thread Debarshi Ray
Hey, I hadn't expected this to garner so much interest! Instead of replying to each message separately, I'll try to summarize a few things into this message. First of all, this thread doesn't have anything to do with GNOME Books. It's a separate application and doesn't have any Online Accounts

Re: GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-21 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 10:38:50AM -0500, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > Similarly, Todoist support was dropped from GOA 3.32. > > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-online-accounts/commit/bf77325d8 > > The commit message has a few mistakes: the Recipes app does not yet > have its own Todoist support.

Re: GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-23 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 08:02:16PM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Wed, 2019-01-23 at 18:52 +0000, Debarshi Ray wrote: > > Grep for "Future of Pocket in GNOME" from 24th August 2018 in your > > inbox. > > Which solves what? You're removing the Documents and Mai

Re: GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-23 Thread Debarshi Ray
n active community of contributors have been jeopardized by the arbitrary will of the mythical GOA maintainer. That's false. [rishi@kolache gnome-documents]$ git shortlog -ns | head 1036 Cosimo Cecchi 357 Debarshi Ray 78 Alessandro Bono 76 Daniel Mustieles 68 Piotr Drag 59 Bastien Noc

Re: GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-23 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 02:49:55PM +, Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 at 14:21, Allan Day wrote: > > If apps could provide their own keys that would certainly change the > > picture (I didn't actually know it was a possibility.) It would also > > change

Re: GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-23 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 04:03:41PM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Wed, 2019-01-23 at 14:33 +, Allan Day wrote: > > That's not what's happening here. Until very recently, Debarshi was > > the Documents maintainer, and he's obviously been fully involved. > > It is what is happening in GNOME

GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-17 Thread Debarshi Ray
Hello everybody, It's been a month since GNOME Documents was removed from the set of core utilities by the release team. See: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-build-meta/merge_requests/157 We are currently in the 3.31.x / 3.32 development cycle. Once the GNOME 3.32 release is done, starting

Re: GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-27 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 11:00:58AM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > I don't think that feature requests should be treated on the same level > as existing, merged, features I can't change my theme, I can't change my fonts, no minimize button, no wallpaper options, my laptop insists on suspending ...

Re: GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-27 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 01:38:57PM +1100, Michael Gratton wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jan, 2019 at 5:52 AM, Debarshi Ray > wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 04:03:41PM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > >> On Wed, 2019-01-23 at 14:33 +, Allan Day wrote: > That's not > >

Re: GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-27 Thread Debarshi Ray
Hey Emmanuele, (I am summarizing a few other sub-threads here.) On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 06:45:50PM +, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 at 18:36, Debarshi Ray wrote: > > What isn't possible is to mix and match API keys with account types at > > run-time. That doesn

Re: GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-27 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 02:03:18PM +, Debarshi Ray wrote: > It's true that GNOME Documents was conceived as a way to seamlessly > access all files local and remote. In that sense, the Online Accounts > integration is crucial for it. > > However, it has turned out to be more c

Re: GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-27 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 10:56:49AM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > You dropped maintainership of gnome-documents, we're now dropping it > from core GNOME, and by removing the Documents integration from GOA, > you're crippling the application, whoever the new maintainer ends up > being. No, wrong.

Re: GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-27 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 02:48:12PM -0500, Michael Terry wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2019, at 21:39, Michael Gratton wrote: > > If GOA Mail is going to be removed from Fedora can there at least be a > > method to programatically determine what is supported and what isn't, > > so Geary can avoid

Re: GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-27 Thread Debarshi Ray
TL;DR: I don't think Deja Dup has anything to worry about. I was pleasantly surprised to know that Deja Dup even uses GOA. Having backups integrated more closely in the OS seems like a good thing to me. I'd encourage you to bring up the story of backups with the GNOME Design Team. On Sun, Jan

Re: GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-27 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 11:24:00AM -0800, philip.chime...@gmail.com wrote: > 2. It's not possible to discontinue support for services X, Y, and Z from > GOA, and yank the rug out from under apps that expected (even if that > expectation was wrong) it to be part of a stable platform. You mean like

Re: GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-27 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 11:37:31AM +, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 at 09:24, Debarshi Ray wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 11:00:58AM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > I don't think that feature requests should be treated on the same level >

Re: GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-27 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 01:29:54PM +, Matthew Paul Thomas via desktop-devel-list wrote: > * For some reason that isn???t clear to me, GOA cares what you use each > account for, rather than merely recording which apps the user has > granted access to each account. Because that's how

Re: GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-28 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 09:26:05PM -0800, philip.chime...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 1:04 PM Debarshi Ray wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 11:24:00AM -0800, philip.chime...@gmail.com wrote: > > > 2. It's not possible to discontinue support for serv

Re: GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-27 Thread Debarshi Ray
Jeremy, You already attempted to slander me once before in this thread: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2019-January/msg00027.html It's been one week since I produced evidence against that: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2019-January/msg00035.html You had

Re: GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-27 Thread Debarshi Ray
Hey Michael, On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 08:29:32PM -0500, Michael Terry wrote: > I meant (1) keeping GNOME's API key valid, (2) maintaining > libgdata, (3) maintaining the GVFS google backend (which only > supports using GOA keys -- an app can't give it its own keys), > and (4) maintaining the GOA

Re: GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-28 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 05:14:39AM -0500, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > This feels like an awfully aggressive way of asking for a reply in a > heated thread that's already getting close to 100 emails. I don't know > if replying will help but since you seem to want a reply so badly and > because I do want

Re: GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-28 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 12:33:09PM +, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > Bug trackers are an awful metric, with a clear and demonstrable bias. For an application that regularly released in an utterly broken state, a bug tracker is a decent indication. > Nevertheless, as I said: I don't *care* about

Re: Clarifications regarding GNOME Online Accounts

2019-02-22 Thread Debarshi Ray
Hey Michael, Sorry, I have been a bit behind with email. On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 01:12:29AM +1100, Michael Gratton wrote: > On Sun, 17 Feb, 2019 at 4:58 AM, Michael Terry wrote: > > Thank you for the clarification! As someone that had been confused > > about the intent and ended up relying on

Re: GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-29 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 10:21:01AM -0500, Christopher Davis wrote: > As asked on the fedora issue, will this mean that cloud documents will > no longer be available within the app? If you want to keep the online accounts integration alive in Documents then you'd need to do something like this

Re: GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-28 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 12:13:26PM +, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > Again, not a huge deal; sure, Documents is actually useful to navigate > through the Google Drive contents???the Drive web UX has become shockingly > bad over the years, unsurprisingly since its a fate that befalls every > Google