Re: GNOME Panel maintainers

2014-09-17 Thread Andy Tai
to take over gnome-panel maintaining. that's not how it works. I strongly suggest you discuss it with him, calmly, and productively, in order to amicably solve this issue. Does not look that it is possible otherwise I would not write this mail. if nothing happens, you can create a clone

Re: GNOME Panel maintainers

2014-09-09 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi, https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-panel/stats/?period=yofs=25 shows the general commit activity per year, in case you want numbers. On Mon, 2014-09-08 at 21:48 +0300, Alberts Muktupāvels wrote: What about maintainers that used to maintain gnome-panel while it was official part? Can

gnome panel applet won't compile

2014-07-29 Thread Bileg Battumu
-DGTK_DISABLE_SINGLE_INCLUDES -DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGSEAL_ENABLE `pkg-config --cflags --libs gtk+-3.0 libpanelapplet-4.0` *.cpp -o helloworld Error message: -- /usr/include/gnome-panel-4.0/libpanel-applet/panel-applet.h:169:13: error: ‘GtkActionGroup’ has

Re: gnome panel applet won't compile

2014-07-29 Thread Matthew Barnes
-4.0` *.cpp -o helloworld Error message: -- /usr/include/gnome-panel-4.0/libpanel-applet/panel-applet.h:169:13: error: ‘GtkActionGroup’ has not been declared GtkActionGroup *action_group); GtkActionGroup is deprecated, and you're disabling

launch gnome-panel when gnome-session starts

2013-10-14 Thread Marc des Garets
Hi, I don't find how to launch gnome-panel when gnome starts. I have tried to add an entry in gnome-session-properties without success. So far I run: gnome-panel --replace after gnome has started. Thanks for your help. Marc ___ desktop-devel-list

Re: launch gnome-panel when gnome-session starts

2013-10-14 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
On 14/10/13 13:19, Giovanni Campagna wrote: 2013/10/14 Marc des Garets m...@ttux.net: Hi, I don't find how to launch gnome-panel when gnome starts. I have tried to add an entry in gnome-session-properties without success. So far I run: gnome-panel --replace after gnome has started. You

Re: GSettings are not saved / Gnome Panel Crash

2012-08-27 Thread Lanoxx
in the schema -- the path is defined by gnome-panel for your applet. Vincent In that case, there is probably a bug in that function, see my following patch here, these few lines completely fixed it for me: And this change is fine. The settings won't be per-applet, though, but for all instances

Re: GSettings are not saved / Gnome Panel Crash

2012-08-27 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2012-08-27 at 10:54 +0200, Lanoxx wrote: Add wanda the fish to the gnome panel. Then right click - preferences - set frame rate to 0.2 (original 0.3). Close and remove wanda from the gnome panel. Now go to Add to panel click on wanda - add This crashes my whole gnome panel. Can

Re: GSettings are not saved / Gnome Panel Crash

2012-08-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 27 août 2012, à 10:54 +0200, Lanoxx a écrit : On 27/08/12 10:41, Lanoxx wrote: On 27/08/12 08:56, Vincent Untz wrote: Note that, afaik, g_settings_new_with_path() works fine. It's used in several applets. See for instance http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-panel/tree/applets/fish

GNOME Panel and GObject Introspection

2011-12-23 Thread pec...@gmail.com
Hi! I thought about one interesting question - does ported GNOME Panel has any GObject Introspection support? If not, maybe it is worth to add it? Just a thought, Happy End Of The Year Time, Peteris. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel

Re: GNOME Panel and GObject Introspection

2011-12-23 Thread Javier Jardón
On 23 December 2011 12:32, pec...@gmail.com pec...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I thought about one interesting question - does ported GNOME Panel has any GObject Introspection support? If not, maybe it is worth to add it? It does since 2.32: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=622341

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2011-01-02 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 03:28, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: You may be aware that there was a recent initiative (from the marketing team, I think) to contact the release managers for various GNOME based I'm not sure who it might have been because this is the first I've heard of any

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-31 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Johannes, Johannes Schmid wrote: GNOME 2.x will not get any more official support after the 2.32.1 relase which already happened. Single module maintainers may decide (or have already decided/done) to do more 2.32.x release to fix various bugs but no more official releases are planned.

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-31 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Jon, I'm confused... William Jon McCann wrote: On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote: Sure, it's not our priority nor target, in terms of development (and it shouldn't be). But to a lot of people, fallback means you'll get some ugly stuff that barely works,

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-31 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 10:28:42AM +0100, Dave Neary wrote: Hi Johannes, Johannes Schmid wrote: GNOME 2.x will not get any more official support after the 2.32.1 relase which already happened. Single module maintainers may decide (or have already decided/done) to do more 2.32.x release

Orca (was Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?)

2010-12-31 Thread Joanmarie Diggs
Hey guys. It is second class I don't think there is any point in whitewashing it. Whether or not you get something that barely works has everything to do with how much attention it gets in design, development, and testing. If you want to use something for a fallback that won't really

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-31 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Donnerstag, den 30.12.2010, 15:55 -0600 schrieb Brian Cameron: Regardless of whether the GNOME community provides any more official support after 2.32.1, distros will continue to support their supported products. Distros could work together in these efforts. I see no reason why such

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-30 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 29 décembre 2010 à 15:22 -0500, William Jon McCann a écrit : That simple JS based fallback panel/menubar idea is sounding better and better... anyone want to give it a shot? This would be completely useless. Who would use that? People are not attached to the panel just because

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-30 Thread Bill O'Connor
once installed. You can also expect that installers won't be providing a choice between version 2 and version 3 of GNOME, but rather a choice between gnome-panel and gnome-shell, with gnome-panel possibly being the default. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-30 Thread Johannes Schmid
categories again in the menu. So in the future, please don't express opinion on things that you haven't tested. And again this thread is not about gnome-shell features but about what we provide as fallback or what the future of gnome-panel is. If some interested people would put more resources

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-30 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 06:54:04AM -0500, Bill O'Connor wrote: You can also expect that installers won't be providing a choice between version 2 and version 3 of GNOME, but rather a choice between gnome-panel and gnome-shell, with gnome-panel possibly being the default. Which distribution do

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-30 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 30 décembre 2010 à 13:08 +0100, Johannes Schmid a écrit : Sidenote: check jhbuild of gnome-shell, it has categories again in the menu. It is great to learn this has been finally fixed, thanks. So in the future, please don't express opinion on things that you haven't tested. I’m

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-30 Thread Frederic Peters
Johannes Schmid wrote: For example, I cannot personally consider the shell as usable as long as it features those unusable two-dimensional iPhone menus - not counting the fact I don’t own hardware that can run it. The panel’s menu is simply better thought. Sidenote: check jhbuild of

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-30 Thread Brian Cameron
-3D shell that could act as a fallback. As we have gnome-panel already it was choosen as the fallback mode. Is it an indication of a problem in gnome3 architecture? I don't see any problem here. I agree that there is no problem with GNOME moving towards OpenGL and acceleration. As you suggest

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-30 Thread Johannes Schmid
-experience in the future which will likely use some components of the GNOME 2.x stack but ported to GNOME 3 technologies (no parallel installation required). Until now, this experience seems to end up as metacity + gnome-panel + Applications. This is not a continuation of GNOME 2.x even if a lot

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-30 Thread Brian Cameron
will maintain a non-3D user-experience in the future which will likely use some components of the GNOME 2.x stack but ported to GNOME 3 technologies (no parallel installation required). Until now, this experience seems to end up as metacity + gnome-panel + Applications. This is not a continuation of GNOME 2

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-30 Thread Pacho Ramos
installation required). Until now, this experience seems to end up as metacity + gnome-panel + Applications. This is not a continuation of GNOME 2.x even if a lot of code might be shared. This is great and enough, for me at least. Thanks for clarifying things :-D signature.asc Description

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-29 Thread Carlos Garcia Campos
for a 3.0 panel. I'm talking about gnome panel from git master, vuntz added support for bonobo applets to make the transition easier. Anyway, we need vuntz for the real answer. I'm not sure, but I think the idea was dropping bonobo support when most of applets are ported to dbus

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-29 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 28 décembre 2010 à 16:53 +0100, Carlos Garcia Campos a écrit : Is the GNOME 3 panel compatible with the GNOME 2 applets? There's no gnome 3 panel, gnome-panel hasn't been ported to gtk3 yet, there's a branch but it's outdated and it still doesn't work. That’s good then. But does

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-29 Thread Carlos Garcia Campos
a matter of buying a new computer, my previous laptop was a modern one, but the nvidia card made imposssible to use gnome-shell for more than 5 minutes. So, my point is, if we want to provide a fallback for those people and we are going to use gnome-panel and metacity because they are already there, why

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-29 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 12:43 AM, Carlos Garcia Campos carlo...@gnome.org wrote: If I couldn't use gnome-shell, I would still want to upgrade all other modules to 3.0 and use a fallback mode without loosing the weather applet, for example. The standard answer here seems to be: -- You may lose

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-29 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
drawing code path for gtk at the time. So, my point is, if we want to provide a fallback for those people and we are going to use gnome-panel and metacity because they are already there, why not keeping the applets too for the same reason? because resources are limited, and we cannot spread

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-29 Thread Pacho Ramos
) nvidia also used to have problem with xrender, making cairo (and gtk) slower - and yet nobody asked for a fallback drawing code path for gtk at the time. So, my point is, if we want to provide a fallback for those people and we are going to use gnome-panel and metacity because

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-29 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Tue, 2010-12-28 at 15:19 -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: It will be important to get people writing extensions before the release happens i think. (sorry went into marketing mode...!) I take the liberty of saying that as person who tried to write an extension (some time ago): - Lack of

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-29 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 29 décembre 2010 à 00:54 -0800, Sandy Armstrong a écrit : You may lose features in 3.0 *with* gnome-shell, and you may lose even more features in 3.0 *without* gnome-shell. These features will take time to return in 3.2, 3.4, etc. Folks who don't want to lose features like this

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-29 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi! So, if by upgrading g-c-c, g-s-d, g-session and other major components to 3.0, we are going to break g-panel, I’d like to know that now, not when it is too late and 3.0 has already been released. The gnome-panel shipped in fallback mode will/should work with GNOME 3 components. That's

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-29 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Xan Lopez x...@gnome.org wrote: On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Luca Ferretti lferr...@gnome.org wrote: Sergey, who sometimes prefers to look backwards rather than forward no problem with that. you can maintain the old user experience for yourself and

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-29 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 29 décembre 2010, à 09:34 +0100, Josselin Mouette a écrit : Le mardi 28 décembre 2010 à 16:53 +0100, Carlos Garcia Campos a écrit : Is the GNOME 3 panel compatible with the GNOME 2 applets? There's no gnome 3 panel, gnome-panel hasn't been ported to gtk3 yet, there's

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-29 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi Vincent, On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote: Le mardi 28 décembre 2010, à 15:20 +0100, Olav Vitters a écrit : However, the fallback is meant as a fallback, not as providing gnome-panel and its applets. So I don't see anything wrong with not providing

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-29 Thread Alan Cox
. After the KDE4.0 debacle I suspect some of those who still ship it are not going to be too keen to jump to GNOME 3 by default before everything is ready and supporting it. It's OK if we lose a few weird applets, but not if gnome-panel loses significant features people will miss badly. See KDE

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-29 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 4:08 AM, Maciej Piechotka uzytkown...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, 2010-12-28 at 15:19 -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: It will be important to get people writing extensions before the release happens i think. (sorry went into marketing mode...!) I take the liberty of

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-29 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Wed, 2010-12-29 at 13:41 -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 4:08 AM, Maciej Piechotka uzytkown...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2010-12-28 at 15:19 -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: It will be important to get people writing extensions

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-29 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Maciej Piechotka uzytkown...@gmail.comwrote: I'm sorry if I sound accusing of something. I wanted to point out what I found to be biggest limitation of writing extensions to gnome-shell. I gave up very quickly due to time limitations - I had done none work at

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-29 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 09:50:10PM +0100, Milan Bouchet-Valat wrote: It's OK if we lose a few weird applets, but not if gnome-panel loses significant features people will miss badly. Totally disagree when it is meant to be called anything other than 'fallback'. Fallback is clear: unsupported

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-28 Thread Sergey Udaltsov
if someone interested) - and GNOME is going to provide them with just crooks, not a real solution. I am sure one of the most important reasons people choose GNOME2 compatibility mode is the applets (I guess noone thinks that gnome-panel itself is so attractive that people cannot live without

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-28 Thread Rui Tiago Cação Matos
provide url if someone interested) - and GNOME is going to provide them with just crooks, not a real solution. I am sure one of the most important reasons people choose GNOME2 compatibility mode is the applets (I guess noone thinks that gnome-panel itself is so attractive that people cannot live

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-28 Thread Sergey Udaltsov
What you want is not Gnome 3 then. You want to continue using Gnome 2 and there's no one preventing you from doing that. So, why bother maintaining gnome2 support mode at all? go to hell, just do not upgrade is unbeatable argument, I must admit. Actually, your advice effectively stops people

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-28 Thread Carlos Garcia Campos
guess noone thinks that gnome-panel itself is so attractive that people cannot live without it). To be honest, not them, us - because personally I am going to stay in that mode as long as possible, so I really would like to have it working. What you want is not Gnome 3 then. You want

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-28 Thread Johannes Schmid
as a fallback. As we have gnome-panel already it was choosen as the fallback mode. BTW, nobody forbids you to create a gnome-sergeys-applets module that is compatible with the GNOME3 gnome-panel and ships all the applets you want. But it will just not be part of the default moduleset. Regards, Johannes

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-28 Thread Sergey Udaltsov
As pointed out before the fallback-mode is not a continuation of GNOME 2. It was just the easiest way to create a fallback because we don't have the resources to create a non-3D shell that could act as a fallback. As we have gnome-panel already it was choosen as the fallback mode

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-28 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 28 décembre 2010 à 13:02 +, Rui Tiago Cação Matos a écrit : What you want is not Gnome 3 then. You want to continue using Gnome 2 and there's no one preventing you from doing that. Is the GNOME 3 panel compatible with the GNOME 2 applets? If so, that’s fine. We distributors can

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-28 Thread Sergey Udaltsov
It seems, there are, in theory, 5 options for fallback/compatibility: 1. Make g-s and mutter scalable down to envs without 3d 2. Provide full compat/fallback mode, with panel and applets 3. Provide restricted fallback mode, only gnome-panel, just enough to do smth 4. Same as #3, just very basic

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-28 Thread Carlos Garcia Campos
compatible with the GNOME 2 applets? There's no gnome 3 panel, gnome-panel hasn't been ported to gtk3 yet, there's a branch but it's outdated and it still doesn't work. If so, that’s fine. We distributors can keep on shipping gnome-applets as we do today, with the 2.32 version

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-28 Thread Carlos Garcia Campos
and there's no one preventing you from doing that. Is the GNOME 3 panel compatible with the GNOME 2 applets? Only with dbus applets, AFAIK (and hope). gnome-panel currently supports both dbus and bonobo applets. IIRC some work is needed on gnome-applets to port them properly to latest gtk

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-28 Thread Olav Vitters
you want is not Gnome 3 then. You want to continue using Gnome 2 and there's no one preventing you from doing that. Is the GNOME 3 panel compatible with the GNOME 2 applets? Only with dbus applets, AFAIK (and hope). gnome-panel currently supports both dbus and bonobo applets

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-28 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
On Tue, 2010-12-28 at 13:42 +, Sergey Udaltsov wrote: As pointed out before the fallback-mode is not a continuation of GNOME 2. It was just the easiest way to create a fallback because we don't have the resources to create a non-3D shell that could act as a fallback. As we have gnome

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-28 Thread Carlos Garcia Campos
(and hope). gnome-panel currently supports both dbus and bonobo applets. Are you talking about the 3.0 version? I'd expect bonobo to be dropped for a 3.0 panel. I'm talking about gnome panel from git master, vuntz added support for bonobo applets to make the transition easier. Anyway

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-28 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 05:53:35PM +0100, Carlos Garcia Campos wrote: Excerpts from Olav Vitters's message of mar dic 28 17:25:31 +0100 2010: Are you talking about the 3.0 version? I'd expect bonobo to be dropped for a 3.0 panel. I'm talking about gnome panel from git master, vuntz added

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-28 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 10:18:19PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: Also for 2.x? For 3.0 I don't expect anything other than no bonobo, as bonobo is deprecated and we're dropping all deprecated stuff. My only wonder is regarding gnome-panel + applets being the fallback option.. so 'applets

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-28 Thread Luca Ferretti
Il giorno mar, 28/12/2010 alle 16.50 +, Emmanuele Bassi ha scritto: On Tue, 2010-12-28 at 13:42 +, Sergey Udaltsov wrote: Sergey, who sometimes prefers to look backwards rather than forward no problem with that. you can maintain the old user experience for yourself and never

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-28 Thread Xan Lopez
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Luca Ferretti lferr...@gnome.org wrote: Sergey, who sometimes prefers to look backwards rather than forward no problem with that. you can maintain the old user experience for yourself and never upgrade. and snarkyness is never going to get you anything,

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-28 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
On Tue, 2010-12-28 at 23:07 +0100, Luca Ferretti wrote: Il giorno mar, 28/12/2010 alle 16.50 +, Emmanuele Bassi ha scritto: On Tue, 2010-12-28 at 13:42 +, Sergey Udaltsov wrote: Sergey, who sometimes prefers to look backwards rather than forward no problem with that. you can

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-28 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
2010/12/28 Sergey Udaltsov sergey.udalt...@gmail.com What you want is not Gnome 3 then. You want to continue using Gnome 2 and there's no one preventing you from doing that. So, why bother maintaining gnome2 support mode at all? go to hell, just do not upgrade is unbeatable argument, I must

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-28 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
from metacity + gnome-panel + a bunch of applets. users will go away sooner, as they always do when a project is perceived to be stagnating. so we can chose to change the user experience to something that might attract new users, and maybe lose a bit of some hard core and vocal minority

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-28 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com wrote: by the way, this whole thread is pretty angry and confrontational - or, at least, it feels a lot that way. It has. I think though as a project we're not quite managing this as well as we could. Not enough context for

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-28 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi! Am Dienstag, den 28.12.2010, 15:44 -0800 schrieb Sriram Ramkrishna: I have the perception that information on what all is going on is getting lost in the noise. What is the canonical point where information on this stuff need to flow to? Seems to me you need to pick someone or maybe

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-28 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
I generally agree with what you said, so I won't reply to every thing. On Tue, 2010-12-28 at 15:44 -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com wrote: by the way, this whole thread is pretty angry and confrontational -

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-27 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 1:34 AM, Frederic Crozat f...@crozat.net wrote: for nvidia, gnome-shell is not usable with proprietary driver What do you mean by this? Every time I've tested on nvidia hardware with the proprietary driver, shell performance has been totally usable. It's not lightning

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-27 Thread Alan Cox
What do you mean by this? Every time I've tested on nvidia hardware with the proprietary driver, shell performance has been totally usable. It's not lightning fast, but I don't think any hardware change would fix that. Usable is a rather hard to quantify thing. Not lightning fast to some

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-27 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Sandy Armstrong sanfordarmstr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 1:34 AM, Frederic Crozat f...@crozat.net wrote: for nvidia, gnome-shell is not usable with proprietary driver What do you mean by this?  Every time I've tested on nvidia hardware with the

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-27 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 6:46 AM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote: What do you mean by this?  Every time I've tested on nvidia hardware with the proprietary driver, shell performance has been totally usable.  It's not lightning fast, but I don't think any hardware change would fix that.

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-27 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le 27 déc. 2010 15:42, Sandy Armstrong sanfordarmstr...@gmail.com a écrit : On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 1:34 AM, Frederic Crozat f...@crozat.net wrote: for nvidia, gnome-shell is not usable with proprietary driver What do you mean by this? Every time I've tested on nvidia hardware with the

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-25 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le 25 déc. 2010 00:16, Johannes Schmid j...@jsschmid.de a écrit : Hi Dave! Do you have any figures on what percentage of Linux users will have the 3D capabilities necessary? Just wondering. Do you have statistics about what hardware people use with Linux? Than it is easy to find out. But

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-24 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Jon, On 12/24/2010 12:32 AM, William Jon McCann wrote: It is important to note that there is no such classic mode. There is a fallback mode for when 3D support is not available. Do you have any figures on what percentage of Linux users will have the 3D capabilities necessary? Just

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-24 Thread Carlos Garcia Campos
confused, what's the story with gnome-panel and gnome-applets in 3.0? Are they in, are they out? If gnome 3 is to support gnome2 compat mode, both of these components should stay in for some while, right? Currently, the situation in in jhbuild is very strange: gnome-panel is still

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-24 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
that. I don't know if there are plans to work on gnome-panel for gnome 3, but in this moment the panel is exactly the same, or even worse since it doesn't even work with gtk3. Is it a good idea to make gnome-panel work with gtk3? Will that break all the gtk2 applets out there in the world which

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-24 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi Dave! Do you have any figures on what percentage of Linux users will have the 3D capabilities necessary? Just wondering. Do you have statistics about what hardware people use with Linux? Than it is easy to find out. But all newer ( 5 years) Intel, AMD/ATI and NVidia chips work so that

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-23 Thread Frederic Peters
Hi, Sergey Udaltsov wrote: I am confused, what's the story with gnome-panel and gnome-applets in 3.0? Are they in, are they out? If gnome 3 is to support gnome2 compat mode, both of these components should stay in for some while, right? Currently, the situation in in jhbuild is very strange

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-23 Thread Carlos Garcia Campos
Excerpts from Frederic Peters's message of jue dic 23 10:22:40 +0100 2010: Hi, Sergey Udaltsov wrote: I am confused, what's the story with gnome-panel and gnome-applets in 3.0? Are they in, are they out? If gnome 3 is to support gnome2 compat mode, both of these components should stay

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-23 Thread Jason D. Clinton
they located in the Shell design. Clearly, network, keyboard, power, a11y, sound, bluetooth, system, applications and clock are staying. Probably launchers. Places is a long-term unknown. There are going to be others; the list is still a work in-progress. GNOME 2 fallback experience should be gnome-panel

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-23 Thread Juanjo Marin
-term unknown. There are going to be others; the list is still a work in-progress. GNOME 2 fallback experience should be gnome-panel, metacity and gnome-applets. It's a fallback but it's also going in to long-term maintenance mode which means we need to have a coherent

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-23 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi Carlos, On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Carlos Garcia Campos carlo...@gnome.org wrote: Excerpts from Frederic Peters's message of jue dic 23 10:22:40 +0100 2010: Hi, Sergey Udaltsov wrote: I am confused, what's the story with gnome-panel and gnome-applets in 3.0

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-23 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Juanjo Marin juanjomari...@yahoo.es wrote: Though I agree that we must planning the future, we also need to give a migration path for our users. There are big deployments out there, and sometimes they need _time_ for evaluating the new features, updating their

gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-14 Thread Sergey Udaltsov
I am confused, what's the story with gnome-panel and gnome-applets in 3.0? Are they in, are they out? If gnome 3 is to support gnome2 compat mode, both of these components should stay in for some while, right? Currently, the situation in in jhbuild is very strange: gnome-panel is still

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-14 Thread Baybal Ni
Confused as well. On 14 December 2010 16:49, Sergey Udaltsov sergey.udalt...@gmail.com wrote: I am confused, what's the story with gnome-panel and gnome-applets in 3.0? Are they in, are they out? If gnome 3 is to support gnome2 compat mode, both of these components should stay in for some

Re: gnome-panel - gtk3

2010-10-15 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 14 octobre 2010, à 15:38 +0200, Jan de Groot a écrit : On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 17:50 -0300, Jonh Wendell wrote: Hi, folks. Will we have a gnome-panel ported to gtk3? We need it for gnome 3 as fallback for gnome-shell, right? It will eventually, yes. Help welcome, etc. Note

Re: gnome-panel - gtk3

2010-10-14 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 17:50 -0300, Jonh Wendell wrote: Hi, folks. Will we have a gnome-panel ported to gtk3? We need it for gnome 3 as fallback for gnome-shell, right? Porting gnome-panel will be pain I think, at least when we're talking about the bonobo applet loader plugin

gnome-panel - gtk3

2010-10-13 Thread Jonh Wendell
Hi, folks. Will we have a gnome-panel ported to gtk3? We need it for gnome 3 as fallback for gnome-shell, right? Cheers, -- Jonh Wendell http://www.bani.com.br ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org

Gnome-panel Improvement?

2010-03-10 Thread rAX
Hello, My name is Reda Lazri, I have an idea that needs some attention: It's the ability to change the icons in the notification area, you might understand in you just saw the mockup: http://0rax0.deviantart.com/art/Gnome-panel-improved-156723192 I really need someone to think about

Re: Gnome-panel Improvement?

2010-03-10 Thread Pat Suwalski
On 10/03/10 05:02 PM, rAX wrote: http://0rax0.deviantart.com/art/Gnome-panel-improved-156723192 I really need someone to think about this, and whether or not it should/could be implemented. Seems to me that would severely complicate theming. If the custom icon was saved in ~/.icons, it would

Decision to remove icons from gnome-panel main menu

2009-09-07 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
Who did a decision to remove icons from gnome-panel main menus (Places, System and Applications) and why there haven't been wilder scale discussion about it? I know there's have been some disagreement about having or not having too much icons in GNOME system, but it seems someone is tired

Re: Decision to remove icons from gnome-panel main menu

2009-09-07 Thread Manu
Hi angry user, well... just install and run gconf-editor and change the /desktop/gnome/interface/menus_have_icons key. (if I remember well) :) You may found other interesting things in gconf by the way. Enjoy. /MB Peteris Krisjanis wrote: Who did a decision to remove icons from gnome-panel

Re: Decision to remove icons from gnome-panel main menu

2009-09-07 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Montag, den 07.09.2009, 12:25 +0300 schrieb Peteris Krisjanis: Who did a decision to remove icons from gnome-panel main menus (Places, System and Applications) and why there haven't been wilder scale discussion about it? Everything has been written and said about this already. The decision

Re: Decision to remove icons from gnome-panel main menu

2009-09-07 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 12:25:20PM +0300, Peteris Krisjanis wrote: I know there's have been some disagreement about having or not having too much icons in GNOME system, but it seems someone is tired of arguing and have taken matters in their own hands. Results are awful in my very personal

Re: Decision to remove icons from gnome-panel main menu

2009-09-07 Thread Luca Ferretti
2009/9/7 Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net: Am Montag, den 07.09.2009, 12:25 +0300 schrieb Peteris Krisjanis: Who did a decision to remove icons from gnome-panel main menus (Places, System and Applications) and why there haven't been wilder scale discussion about it? Everything has been written

Re: Decision to remove icons from gnome-panel main menu

2009-09-07 Thread Diego Escalante Urrelo
On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 13:46 +0200, Luca Ferretti wrote: 2009/9/7 Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net: Am Montag, den 07.09.2009, 12:25 +0300 schrieb Peteris Krisjanis: Who did a decision to remove icons from gnome-panel main menus (Places, System and Applications) and why there haven't been wilder

Re: Decision to remove icons from gnome-panel main menu

2009-09-07 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 07 septembre 2009, à 12:25 +0300, Peteris Krisjanis a écrit : Who did a decision to remove icons from gnome-panel main menus (Places, System and Applications) and why there haven't been wilder scale discussion about it? The icons for categories in the applications menu are back, which

Gnome-panel-handles do not accept transparency

2009-04-02 Thread Joshuah Kuttenkuler
boxes. Please, tell me someone is willing to patch this for me, I've got $10 in my paypal account I'll give them, plus a cookie. I saw a bug report on the ubuntu launchpad site submitted about this in 2006! And don't tell me you are getting rid of gnome-panel, this can be fixed anyway, please

how gnome panel handle submenu and app's show/non-show information?

2008-11-10 Thread Liu, Raymond
Hi My system is ubuntu 8.04 I check the /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu, I can see that not all the submenu is actually show in the gnome-panel And also not all the app is show in each submenu or category. I can see that in UI interface, I can config which item is show and which

Re: how gnome panel handle submenu and app's show/non-show information?

2008-11-10 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 10 novembre 2008, à 18:25 +0800, Liu, Raymond a écrit : Hi My system is ubuntu 8.04 I check the /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu, I can see that not all the submenu is actually show in the gnome-panel And also not all the app is show in each submenu or category. I can see

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