Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-08-05 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le lundi 28 juillet 2008 à 00:31 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit : Homepage: http://projecthamster.wordpress.com/ svn/git/bzr/...: http://code.google.com/p/projecthamster/source/checkout Proposal on d-d-l: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-April/msg00138.html License: GPLv3

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-08-05 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When reviewing hamster license, we discover some inconsistencies : - project webpage states LGPL - tarball contains GPLv2 - some files mentions GPLv3 or later. Sorry for the confusion. It seems Toms forgot to replace

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-08-05 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 05 août 2008, à 17:01 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki a écrit : On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When reviewing hamster license, we discover some inconsistencies : - project webpage states LGPL - tarball contains GPLv2 - some files mentions GPLv3 or

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-30 Thread Kalle Vahlman
2008/7/28 Frederic Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dave Neary wrote: In general, I'd hate for this app is mostly useless to be a heavily Well, I don't think it is useful for most people is not quite the same. This is just that nobody I know is doing time tracking, so I consider it a niche

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-30 Thread Kalle Vahlman
2008/7/30 Mathias Hasselmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am Mittwoch, den 30.07.2008, 12:55 +0300 schrieb Kalle Vahlman: 2008/7/28 Frederic Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dave Neary wrote: In general, I'd hate for this app is mostly useless to be a heavily Well, I don't think it is useful for most

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-30 Thread Damien Grassart
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:54 AM, Kalle Vahlman [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I'm not arguing that time tracking is *not* suited for desktop, I'm just saying it probably would be a *better* match in the office suite (which, as you point out, is a bit loose definition currently). I'd say it would be

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-30 Thread Sandy Armstrong
Vincent Untz wrote: Homepage: http://projecthamster.wordpress.com/ svn/git/bzr/...: http://code.google.com/p/projecthamster/source/checkout Proposal on d-d-l: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-April/msg00138.html License: GPLv3 (or is it GPLv3 or later?) Short description:

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-30 Thread John Stowers
On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 17:34 -0700, Sandy Armstrong wrote: Vincent Untz wrote: Homepage: http://projecthamster.wordpress.com/ svn/git/bzr/...: http://code.google.com/p/projecthamster/source/checkout Proposal on d-d-l:

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-30 Thread Diego Escalante Urrelo
On 7/30/08, John Stowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But when I tried hamster applet, there was no such information to be seen. I would have expected to see incomplete tasks as possible activities. Works here with 2.23.4 in Intrepid, I have no evo python... greetings.

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-30 Thread John Stowers
On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 21:13 -0500, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote: On 7/30/08, John Stowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But when I tried hamster applet, there was no such information to be seen. I would have expected to see incomplete tasks as possible activities. Works here with

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-29 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 14:16 +0200, Frederic Peters wrote: Vincent Untz wrote: Project Hamster is a nifty time tracking applet for the Gnome desktop. It helps to keep track on how much time has been spent during the day on set up activities. It is nifty, but I don't think it is useful

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-29 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 09:40 -0700, Luis Villa wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: motivating reason for rejection, also... most of the apps we ship are mostly useless to most of our users. Do you think so ? It may be I almost perfectly matched

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-29 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Rodrigo Moya wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 09:40 -0700, Luis Villa wrote: This is exactly the kind of app that makes me think we should have certification for non-core applications- a way to say 'this is great and useful and GNOME-y' (which it is) without saying 'this a part of the core

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-29 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Dienstag, den 29.07.2008, 17:04 +0200 schrieb Rodrigo Moya: On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 14:16 +0200, Frederic Peters wrote: It is nifty, but I don't think it is useful for most people; and I don't want the GNOME desktop to become a collection of all the cool apps that are on gnomefiles.org (or

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-29 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Andre Klapper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So from a technical point of view, how hard would it be to integrate hamster into gnome-applets? Might be trivial idiot question by me who doesn't hack himself. vuntz says 30 minutes of work, I guess, but shall I trust

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-29 Thread Wouter Bolsterlee
2008-07-29 klockan 17:50 skrev Patryk Zawadzki: (and likely add python dependency to the applets module if not already there). It's already there, e.g. the stock quotes applet is written in Python. mvrgr, Wouter -- :wq mail [EMAIL

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-28 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Matthias Clasen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A little minus on integration (admittedly a pet peeve of mine): This is yet another app that does its own homegrown preference for a hotkey. This should nowadays be done by installing an xml file for the keybinding

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-28 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Vincent Untz wrote: Summary so far: === + not hosted in the GNOME infrastructure, but willing to migrate + many releases since the proposal + some discussion about using e-d-s instead of sqlite. It seems the maintainers prefer to stay with sqlite + some people like

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-28 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 10:13 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Matthias Clasen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A little minus on integration (admittedly a pet peeve of mine): This is yet another app that does its own homegrown preference for a hotkey. This should

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-28 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Bastien Nocera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 10:13 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Matthias Clasen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A little minus on integration (admittedly a pet peeve of mine): This is yet another

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-28 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Matthias Clasen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A little minus on integration (admittedly a pet peeve of mine): This is yet another app that does its own homegrown preference for a hotkey. This should nowadays be done by installing an xml file for the keybinding

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-28 Thread Frederic Peters
Vincent Untz wrote: Project Hamster is a nifty time tracking applet for the Gnome desktop. It helps to keep track on how much time has been spent during the day on set up activities. It is nifty, but I don't think it is useful for most people; and I don't want the GNOME desktop to become a

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-28 Thread Glenn J. Mason
So -1 for me, as I don't see any advantage in Project Hamster being adopted as an official module of the GNOME desktop. Being a module doesn't mean it's automatically shipped with the desktop by default, does it? Don't the distros just pick what they want?

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-28 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
2008/7/28 Glenn J. Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So -1 for me, as I don't see any advantage in Project Hamster being adopted as an official module of the GNOME desktop. Being a module doesn't mean it's automatically shipped with the desktop by default, does it? Don't the distros just pick what

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-28 Thread Dave Neary
Glenn J. Mason wrote: So -1 for me, as I don't see any advantage in Project Hamster being adopted as an official module of the GNOME desktop. Being a module doesn't mean it's automatically shipped with the desktop by default, does it? Don't the distros just pick what they want?

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-28 Thread Glenn J. Mason
In general, I'd hate for this app is mostly useless to be a heavily motivating reason for rejection, also... most of the apps we ship are mostly useless to most of our users. This one is polished, cute and has a sense of humour. I agree with this -- I don't play half the games, but it's nice

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-28 Thread Frederic Peters
Dave Neary wrote: In general, I'd hate for this app is mostly useless to be a heavily Well, I don't think it is useful for most people is not quite the same. This is just that nobody I know is doing time tracking, so I consider it a niche application. motivating reason for rejection,

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-28 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Frederic Peters wrote: Dave Neary wrote: In general, I'd hate for this app is mostly useless to be a heavily Well, I don't think it is useful for most people is not quite the same. This is just that nobody I know is doing time tracking, so I consider it a niche application. /me does

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-28 Thread Luis Villa
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: motivating reason for rejection, also... most of the apps we ship are mostly useless to most of our users. Do you think so ? It may be I almost perfectly matched GNOME apps till today :) Looking in Utilities: I rarely use

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-28 Thread Mathias Hasselmann
Am Montag, den 28.07.2008, 18:36 +0200 schrieb Dave Neary: Hi, Frederic Peters wrote: Dave Neary wrote: In general, I'd hate for this app is mostly useless to be a heavily Well, I don't think it is useful for most people is not quite the same. This is just that nobody I know is

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-28 Thread Matteo Settenvini
As far as functionality don't overlap, I don't see much of a problem in including more applications in GNOME. They just help it get promoted further. If I take a glance at my menu under a standard Ubuntu installation and I count the number of entries of a vanilla GNOME installation, they're not

Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Homepage: http://projecthamster.wordpress.com/ svn/git/bzr/...: http://code.google.com/p/projecthamster/source/checkout Proposal on d-d-l: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-April/msg00138.html License: GPLv3 (or is it GPLv3 or later?) Short description: ==

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 28 juillet 2008, à 00:31 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit : Homepage: http://projecthamster.wordpress.com/ svn/git/bzr/...: http://code.google.com/p/projecthamster/source/checkout Proposal on d-d-l: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-April/msg00138.html License: GPLv3

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-27 Thread Wouter Bolsterlee
2008-07-28 klockan 00:31 skrev Vincent Untz: + not hosted in the GNOME infrastructure, but willing to migrate Looks like the next to take action is not the maintainer: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=545049 mvrgr, Wouter -- :wq

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-27 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Homepage: http://projecthamster.wordpress.com/ svn/git/bzr/...: http://code.google.com/p/projecthamster/source/checkout Proposal on d-d-l: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-April/msg00138.html