[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

> Thanks Wayne. I think the confusing part in this ticket is that there must have been multiple regressions in terms of CPU over time and I think we are also mixing X and Wayland (in case that matters). Certainly I also saw a big slowdown between TB 91 and 102. Very possible. -- You received

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

Frank ... comment 62 may render my comment 69 null and void, if the comment 56 regression range is in fact accurate. And I am skeptical of that [mozilla-central regression range 2021-01-27 to 2021-01-28](https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

Thanks Wayne. I think the confusing part in this ticket is that there must have been multiple regressions in terms of CPU over time and I think we are also mixing X and Wayland (in case that matters). Certainly I also saw a big slowdown between TB 91 and 102. In any case, with regards to my

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

(In reply to Frank from Matrix and #68) > I narrowed it down to a change between Thunderbird 110_0b4 and 111_0b1. That's good work. Bad news: the number of [Firefox](https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla- beta/pushloghtml?fromchange=FIREFOX_110_0b4_RELEASE=FIREFOX_111_0b1_RELEASE) and

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

I just re-installed TB 115.6.0 from scratch on a completely new Laptop (Lenovo Carbon X1 Gen 11) running Ubuntu 22.04 and I see exactly the same behavior there as on my old laptop. I will have to revert to TB 91 as any newer version is essentially unusable for me. -- You received this bug

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

(In reply to Frank from comment #64) > Here is a more recent profile with TB 120b5 in case it helps. As before, the > profile was taken while moving the mouse cursor vertically across the message > pane (no clicking or any other action): https://share.firefox.dev/3QzNmHl The expert julienw on

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

(In reply to Wayne Mery (:wsmwk) from comment #65) > Reporter (794632548/adm), does this still reproduce for you? Yes, in 102.13.1 (64-bit) from 10% CPU to 50% when mouse hover over e-mail list. I am not using newer Thunderbird due to an appearance issue inside it (missing c0ntent of the TB

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

Reporter (794632548/adm), does this still reproduce for you? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to thunderbird in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1959747 Title: [upstream] Very high CPU and slow responsiveness in

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

Here is a more recent profile with TB 120b5 in case it helps. As before, the profile was taken while moving the mouse cursor vertically across the message pane (no clicking or any other action): https://share.firefox.dev/3QzNmHl -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

That's a quite old area of the code. You would be best served by just trying to bisect it further down to the individual patch. I can't really predict what would be causing that that far back. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

Tested TB 119.0b6 and still the same problem as described in my previous comment. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to thunderbird in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1959747 Title: [upstream] Very high CPU and slow

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

Not to me, but it might to some GFX people. Although they'd probably prefer a more recent profile. (In reply to Sebastian from comment #56) > This helped, thank you! I was able to narrow it down a bit further to > ``` > 48:20.61 INFO: Last good revision: 036520a38d2b3d46fb31cf93f89d3545242feac5

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

(In reply to Frank from comment #39) > I tried the latest Thunderbird 112 beta 6 and unfortunately the situation is > still the same. I also managed to capture a profile of simply moving the > mouse cursor vertically across the message pane window. My CPU usage goes up > to 25% (on a 4-core

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

I just tried the latest 118.0b4. The lag on the mouse-over effect as well as the high CPU usage is still reproducible for me. First I thought the new "cards view" is better, but that's just because fewer messages are visible in the message pane at a given time. As has been pointed out before,

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

Is this still reproducible with the latest 115.2 release? We went through some pretty in-depth optimization and it should behave much better. Even more improvements are on the horizon in the upcoming betas. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages,

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

With these settings reverted back to normal >gfx.webrender.all >gfx.webrender.force-disabled > > Switch the first one to false (it was already switched to false) and the > second one to true (I switched this one manually) > everything works smooths and no cpu usage jumps happen. I

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

(In reply to Wayne Mery (:wsmwk) from comment #55) > The automation of https://mozilla.github.io/mozregression/quickstart.html > will make the job much easier This helped, thank you! I was able to narrow it down a bit further to ``` 48:20.61 INFO: Last good revision:

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

The automation of https://mozilla.github.io/mozregression/quickstart.html will make the job much easier -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to thunderbird in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1959747 Title: [upstream]

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

I tried to narrow this down a bit and made tests with several versions including beta releases. For me the problem starts when switching from **88.0b3** (snappy, fast) to **89.0b1** (slow, high cpu usage) I was trying to build a version for all the commits (revisions in mecurial?) in between to

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

(In reply to Frank from comment #52) > In my case, I have no add-ons installed and tested with an clean profile. > Compared to Thunderbird 91 the UI is laggy and uses about a factor 2 more CPU > when hovering over the entries in the message pane. indeed, CPU usage is high and it's not as snappy

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

(In reply to Wayne Mery (:wsmwk) from comment #50) > (In reply to Adi from comment #49) > > slow: > > https://share.firefox.dev/3PZLCbH > > activity in nsIAbDirectory.cardForEmailAddress ? > Also, are you using the cardbook addon? Problem reproduces without it? I owe you a beer :-) Disabling

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

In my case, I have no add-ons installed and tested with an clean profile. Compared to Thunderbird 91 the UI is laggy and uses about a factor 2 more CPU when hovering over the entries in the message pane. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

After another minor version upgrade, it was fast again. Upon switching to a new folder, it became slow, and remained slow. I managed to capture 2 profiles, where you can see fast vs slow, same instance of Thunderbird, only difference is having switched to another mail folder then back to the

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

(In reply to Adi from comment #49) > slow: > https://share.firefox.dev/3PZLCbH activity in nsIAbDirectory.cardForEmailAddress ? Also, are you using the cardbook addon? Problem reproduces without it? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

Tested with a clean profile and TB 115 and I still see the same high CPU usage as with all previous beta releases. Is there anything we can do to help move this higher in the priority list of the developers? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages,

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

(In reply to Adi from comment #46) > Version 102.12.0 seems to have fixed the issue on my setup (Debian 11.7, > Xfce, AMD Ryzen 4750u with integrated graphics in a Thinkpad T14 AMD Gen 1). > The message list highlighting is just as responsive as the folder list now. > It still uses quite a bit

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

Version 102.12.0 seems to have fixed the issue on my setup (Debian 11.7, Xfce, AMD Ryzen 4750u with integrated graphics in a Thinkpad T14 AMD Gen 1). The message list highlighting is just as responsive as the folder list now. It still uses quite a bit of CPU when moving the mouse over the list,

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

Tested with a clean profile and thew new 115b1. Problem is still the same ("feels" even slightly worse, although I don't have hard measurements on that). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to thunderbird in Ubuntu.

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

Did anybody try to start with a clean profile restoring previous and reproduce the error? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to thunderbird in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1959747 Title: [upstream] Very high CPU

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

Still no improvement with latest beta (114b3). I really wonder if this will ever get addressed. For me, it's a definite blocker and I am still using 91.8 for that reason. But I don't think I can stay much longer on such an old version. Will probably have to look for another mail client after 20

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

(In reply to Sebastian from comment #40) > I am having the same issue with ~25% CPU usage when hovering over the > messages list and from what I can observer this is somehow related to the > HiDPI monitor I am using (27' LG, 4k)? > > OS: Fedora 37 > TB: 102.9.1 > Nvidia 3060Ti + X11 (Also

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

(In reply to Fabian Rodriguez:MagicFab from comment #13) > I see at least two reports confirming this in Mozilla Thunderbird support, > including Windows, Mac and GNU/Linux - and I have the same problem (TB 91.1.2 > on Windows 10). > > This makes Thunderbird slow to the point it can't be used

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747] Re: [upstream] Very high CPU and slow responsiveness in Thunderbird 91-102

OS: 5.15.0-52-generic #58~20.04.1-Ubuntu TB: 102.10.0 Nvidia Quadro 1000M Intel Core i7-2760QM 16 GB RAM Same issue here plus time outs w/ 100% CPU utilization for approx. 20 sec. I noticed that the above mentioned paramter is gone (gfx...force-disabled) from the configuration. Reintroducing

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

I am having the same issue with ~25% CPU usage when hovering over the messages list and from what I can observer this is somehow related to the HiDPI monitor I am using (27' LG, 4k)? OS: Fedora 37 TB: 102.9.1 Nvidia 3060Ti + X11 (Also tested this with an AMD RX 580 and X11 and Wayland - same

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

I tried the latest Thunderbird 112 beta 6 and unfortunately the situation is still the same. I also managed to capture a profile of simply moving the mouse cursor vertically across the message pane window. My CPU usage goes up to 25% (on a 4-core CPU) while doing so:

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

Thanks for the update. I just tried Thunderbird 111 beta 2 "Supernova" on Ubuntu 22.04 but unfortunately the situation (laggy UI, very high CPU usage on moving mouse cursor in message pane) is still the same. Let's hope the next version will improve on that. -- You received this bug notification

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

Good development progress is being made on "deforestation". Beta should be available on a month or two. And then released in July with version 115. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to thunderbird in Ubuntu.

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

> Perhaps it's not actually realted to webrender, I just assumed that because > disabling it solved problems in the past. +1. Webrender on/off does not matter here at all. Maybe also worth mentioning: I am on a 10th gen Intel GPU with 6.0.9-zen1-1-zen kernel Boring workaround: Switch to

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747] Re: [upstream] Very high CPU and slow responsiveness in Thunderbird 91-102

** Summary changed: - [upstream] Very high CPU and slow responsiveness in Thunderbird 91 + [upstream] Very high CPU and slow responsiveness in Thunderbird 91-102 ** Description changed: - Very high CPU and slow responsiveness in Thunderbird 91.5.0. Just moving - the mouse cursor over a message

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

> It seems that the high CPU usage and slow UI update is worse when the message list is big and the window is big. If I make it that only 10 rows are visible, it seems to be faster. Here is a profile of the mouse moving around a large message list. I can confirm exactly this! Working on a 2

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

(In reply to Adi from comment #32) > ... > It seems that the high CPU usage and slow UI update is worse when the message > list is big and the window is big. If I make it that only 10 rows are > visible, it seems to be faster. Here is a profile of the mouse moving around > a large message list.

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747] Re: [upstream] Very high CPU and slow responsiveness in Thunderbird 91

I am also seeing the same behaviour. Previously I just disabled the WebRender as well (since that made the difference in being not laggy), just to make Thunderbird useable. Here is my profile when moving the mouse over the messages: https://share.firefox.dev/3CCIknA -- You received this bug

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

I am seeing the exactly same behavior as Adi on Ubuntu 22.04. I manually upgraded to Thunderbird 102 via the mozilla ppa and I am seeing the same high CPU usage on mouse hover and delayed animations, which made the UI almost unusable for me. My first guess was also the WebRender as I had to

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

(In reply to Sören Hentzschel from comment #31) > > which has removed the possibility of disabling webrender > > I assume you already tried the newest graphics drivers. > > Why would you want to *completely * disable WebRender? Do hardware AND > software WebRender crash for you? You can set

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

> which has removed the possibility of disabling webrender I assume you already tried the newest graphics drivers. Why would you want to *completely * disable WebRender? Do hardware AND software WebRender crash for you? You can set gfx.webrender.software to true to disable hardware WebRender and

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

Debian 11 just upgraded to Thunderbird 102, which has removed the possibility of disabling webrender, rendering Thunderbird on my computer basically unusable. I was forced to downgrade to version 91. high CPU usage and around 100ms delay on hover animations when moving mouse over emails and menu

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

A capture documenting this bug with Thunderbird 102.2 on Linux (Fedora 36, Wayland): Between 1.5s and 4.5s the mouse pointer is moving over the message list. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

I can reproduce this on Fedora 36 with Thunderbird 102.2.0 on Wayland. Setting `gfx.webrender.all false` and `gfx.webrender.force-disabled true` doesn't reduce CPU usage for me. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

More interesting, is can anyone reproduce this when using version 102? from https://www.thunderbird.net/ Webrender is much improved in version 102 for Windows. Perhaps it is also better for Linux. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

Same here on Fedora 36, Thunderbird 91.8.0 (64 bit). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to thunderbird in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1959747 Title: [upstream] Very high CPU and slow responsiveness in Thunderbird

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747] Re: [upstream] Very high CPU and slow responsiveness in Thunderbird 91

I now discovered, that webrender is disabled by default in Firefox 101 on Ubuntu. So the question is, why it is enabled by default in Thunderbird. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to thunderbird in Ubuntu.

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747] Re: [upstream] Very high CPU and slow responsiveness in Thunderbird 91

From another side I got the hint, that miss-configured (web)rendering could be the source of the problem and cause lots of time spent in error logging. See: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1772673#c11 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747] Re: [upstream] Very high CPU and slow responsiveness in Thunderbird 91

I'm having similar problems in 1:91.10.0+build1-0ubuntu0.20.04.1 with Thunderbird's CPU usage well over 25 % and for long periods and additionally causing root process Xorg to consume 15 % CPU. See also: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1772673 The workaround for me is:

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747] Re: [upstream] Very high CPU and slow responsiveness in Thunderbird 91

If I revert the above settings then the problem gets even worse. So it seems we might have multiple different 100% CPU bugs now. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to thunderbird in Ubuntu.

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747] Re: [upstream] Very high CPU and slow responsiveness in Thunderbird 91

I'm having similar problems again in 1:91.9.1+build1-0ubuntu0.20.04.1 with Thunderbird's CPU usage well over 100% and long periods of not responding since the update. But the fix for the original problem is still active: gfx.webrender.all = false gfx.webrender.force-disabled = true -- You

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747] Re: [upstream] Very high CPU and slow responsiveness in Thunderbird 91

I have Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, 8GB RAM, i5 4-Core Intel CPU, SSD, It's a Laptop. I am facing same issue, I have installed Thunderbird 91.8.0 (64-bit), and the CPU usage is high and the interface is not responsive, the cursor lags, feels heavy while using. -- You received this bug notification

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

Running on Fedora-35, with KDE, Radeon RX6600, and Thunderbird 91.7.0, I can confirm that the above suggested fix does *NOT* solve the high-cpu usage problem. Even after setting "gfx.webrender.force-disabled" to "true" (and confirming "gfx.webrender.all" to be "false"), moving the mouse over

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747]

I confirm this on the most recent distributions of Arch Linux and Thunderbird. The suggested fix works to solve the sluggishness. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to thunderbird in Ubuntu.

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747] Re: [upstream] Very high CPU and slow responsiveness in Thunderbird 91

** Summary changed: - [upstream] Very high CPU and slow responsiveness in Thunderbird 91.5.0 + [upstream] Very high CPU and slow responsiveness in Thunderbird 91 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to thunderbird in Ubuntu.

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747] Re: [upstream] Very high CPU and slow responsiveness in Thunderbird 91.5.0

Launchpad has imported 24 comments from the remote bug at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1730423. If you reply to an imported comment from within Launchpad, your comment will be sent to the remote bug automatically. Read more about Launchpad's inter-bugtracker facilities at

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747] Re: [upstream] Very high CPU and slow responsiveness in Thunderbird 91.5.0

** Description changed: - Very high CPU (365% for me) and slow responsiveness in Thunderbird - 91.5.0 + Very high CPU and slow responsiveness in Thunderbird 91.5.0. Just moving + the mouse cursor over a message list results in 365% CPU for me. I had to set this in the config editor to fix

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747] Re: [upstream] Very high CPU and slow responsiveness in Thunderbird 91.5.0

** Summary changed: - Very high CPU and slow responsiveness in Thunderbird 91.5.0 + [upstream] Very high CPU and slow responsiveness in Thunderbird 91.5.0 ** Tags added: upstream -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1959747] [NEW] [upstream] Very high CPU and slow responsiveness in Thunderbird 91.5.0

Public bug reported: Very high CPU and slow responsiveness in Thunderbird 91.5.0. Just moving the mouse cursor over a message list results in 365% CPU for me. I had to set this in the config editor to fix it:   gfx.webrender.force-disabled = TRUE Upstream bug: