Re: DataStax role in Cassandra and the ASF

Hi, On Sat, Nov 5, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Jeremy Hanna wrote: > ...It is also apparently much more apparent in the private threads which > apparently > the PMC can make public I have not followed all discussions about this so sorry if you already got this information

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Re: [VOTE] Close client-...@cassandra.apache.org mailing list

+1 let's close it. Gary. On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 5:11 AM, Jeff Jirsa wrote: > There exists a nearly unused mailing list, client-...@cassandra.apache.org > [0]. > > This is a summary of the email threads over the past 12 months on that > list: > > 1) ApacheCon Seville CFP

[VOTE] Close client-...@cassandra.apache.org mailing list

There exists a nearly unused mailing list, client-...@cassandra.apache.org [0]. This is a summary of the email threads over the past 12 months on that list: 1) ApacheCon Seville CFP Close notice 2) Datastax .NET driver question 3) Datastax Java driver question 4) FOSDEM announce 5) ApacheCon

[GitHub] cassandra pull request #79: Correct Spelling Errors in JavaDoc for IEndPoint...

Github user michaelsembwever commented on a diff in the pull request: https://github.com/apache/cassandra/pull/79#discussion_r86710443 --- Diff: src/java/org/apache/cassandra/locator/IEndpointSnitch.java --- @@ -30,12 +30,12 @@ public interface IEndpointSnitch {

[GitHub] cassandra pull request #79: Correct Spelling Errors in JavaDoc for IEndPoint...

Github user michaelsembwever commented on a diff in the pull request: https://github.com/apache/cassandra/pull/79#discussion_r86710377 --- Diff: src/java/org/apache/cassandra/locator/IEndpointSnitch.java --- @@ -30,12 +30,12 @@ public interface IEndpointSnitch {

Re: Broader community involvement in 4.0 (WAS Re: Rough roadmap for 4.0)

Hi Ben, A few ideas to add to your suggestions [inline]: On 2016-11-06 13:51 (-0800), Ben Slater wrote: > Hi All, > > I thought I would add a couple of observations and suggestions as someone > who has both personally made my first contributions to the project in

Re: Broader community involvement in 4.0 (WAS Re: Rough roadmap for 4.0)

Ben, Thank you for providing two thoughtful, concrete recommendations. There is some good feedback in general on this thread, but I'm calling Ben's response out because point #1 is important to discuss and point #2 is immediately actionable. > 1) I think some process of assigning a committer of a

Re: Broader community involvement in 4.0 (WAS Re: Rough roadmap for 4.0)

Hi All, I thought I would add a couple of observations and suggestions as someone who has both personally made my first contributions to the project in the last few months and someone in a leadership role in an organisation (Instaclustr) that is feeling it’s way through increasing our

Re: Review of Cassandra actions

For the sake of clarity I am a member of the ASF board but I am not speaking on behalf of the board in this email. On 06/11/2016 01:25, Jeff Jirsa wrote: > I hope the other 7 members of the board take note of this response, > and other similar reactions on dev@ today. I can't speak for all seven

DataStax and Cassandra

Hi all, There’s been some conversation and some acrimony kicked up by my recent blog post here . I appreciate the conversation and regret the acrimony! Fundamentally I was trying to convey two complementary messages:

Re: DataStax role in Cassandra and the ASF

You are saying the the "nature of the communication as unnecessarily antagonistic" and that I think it is necessary. Neither of those are accurate. I do not characterize it as "antagonistic" nor necessary. > On Nov 6, 2016, at 1:39 PM, Jeffrey Jirsa wrote: > > Everything you

Re: Review of Cassandra actions

Benedict, you ride the 'bla said blub', bääh.. since at least 5 replies. Yes the discussion was heated on both sides. But Chris didn't say anything since many posts. And his reply was sharp but really not totally personal. Can we now come back to a more technical discussion again please? Some

Re: DataStax role in Cassandra and the ASF

Everything you said is accurate, and I don¹t think anyone¹s debating that. What I¹m hoping to convey is the method of communication is such that a SIGNIFICANT number of people interpret the nature of the communication as unnecessarily antagonistic. You seem to think it¹s necessary, but the

Re: DataStax role in Cassandra and the ASF

Some clarification. Basically, there had been issues w/ DataStax and the PMC for a long, long time. It came somewhat to a head in Aug when there was a PR/Email about the "Cassandra Summit" with nary a mention of Apache at all. None. This was after months and months in trying to get DataStax to

Re: DataStax role in Cassandra and the ASF

And, as a reminder, this is my email in its entirety. Note how when show in full, it is hardly the nefarious posting one would have assumed from the small cutting shared so far. """ I've seen such issues come up before... The problem is not, per se, that the issues pop up; it happens and

Re: DataStax role in Cassandra and the ASF

Now that I have clarity on what can and can't be relayed to the community / dev@, I'm going to reply to this email, and then I suspect I'm done for today, because I'd rather watch football than reply to this anymore. On Sat, Nov 5, 2016 at 6:30 AM, Mark Struberg

Re: Review of Cassandra actions

You've cherry picked, as usual. "In what possible universe dropping that hammer threat from the ’20% off” email thread, then following up with a Game of Thrones youtube clip is alright?" "In an ideal world, that power would entail corresponding duties: care and consideration in your actions at

Re: Moderation

It was nothing but an expression of my belief that Chris' excuses for his inappropriate behaviour were wholly inadequate. This is not an isolated incident; it is a pattern of behaviour, and excuses do not cut it. Anything less than a wholesale acceptance of inappropriateness, retraction, and

Re: Review of Cassandra actions

"well written, cogent and on-topic" ... "reasoned rebuttal" You keep on using those words. I don't think they mean what you think they do. Some data points: o " A lot of extra power, like it or not (I have a feeling you quite like it, though)." o "you are being hotheaded, impulsive,

Re: Moderation

If this is your attempt to accept Chris' explanation, even if you don't agree with it, then you have not quite succeeded. If instead, this is your attempt to continue to heap fuel on a fire, and be just as aggressive as you paint others to be, then you have done quite well. I don't expect that

Re: Moderation

PMC member is a committer by default (in the past, we’ve had difficulty electing a member to the PMC without giving them commit access, so electing a member to the PMC without granting them commit access is at the very least nontrivial) The process is the same for all top level projects - the PMC

Re: Review of Cassandra actions

Jim, I would love it if you could take the time to explain how arrived at a diagnosis of trolling. Aleksey made a well written, cogent and on-topic criticism of your ongoing behaviour, as well as a reasoned rebuttal of your absurd claim that your power is inherent to *you*, not your position (I

Re: Moderation

I took a look at https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html, and it doesn't seem to give any guidelines on who should be on the PMC. My assumption has always been the most active committers become PMC members, but it sounds like that's not the case on other projects. Is the process to be added to the

Re: Moderation

In summary: you claim to be someone with years of experience at the forefront of an organisation that conducts all of its business primarily over email. In that time you have not learned to express yourself over email in a manner that is not incendiary to those reading it, nor offensive to the

Re: Moderation

Sorry one typo below: Where I said: “The Cassandra MVP comment was also not a diss on you as much as it was me saying – ideally – I would hope that the Apache Cassandra MVP people promote the concept of their community leaders becoming “ASF members”, and that Cassandra MVPs are great – but

Re: Moderation

For the record, your breakdown of the email trying to decipher what I meant is not correct. It’s not your fault, but email doesn’t convey tone, nor do you know what I am thinking or what I was trying to say. In fact, I was actually saying the PMC wasn’t doing its job, because (as I stated to

Re: Review of Cassandra actions

Sorry that people took the reply as pompous... You are certainly within your rights to take it anyway you want. It was not meant that way. In the same vein, I am within my rights to take responses in the way I want, which I took as simple trolling. And with trolls, as with thermonuclear war, the