Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4.

2024-02-16 Thread Daan Hoogland
s. > > > Regards. > > > > > > From: Guto Veronezi > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 18:34 > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4. > > Daan, > > As we still plan to introduc

Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4.

2024-02-15 Thread Rohit Yadav
our users if they've any feedback for us. Regards. From: Guto Veronezi Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 18:34 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4. Daan, As we still plan to introduce disruptive changes (in

Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4.

2024-02-13 Thread Guto Veronezi
Daan, As we still plan to introduce disruptive changes (in a cautious and structured way) in the major versions, all my concerns are met; I do not have further technical reasons to keep the "4.". Best regards, Daniel Salvador (gutoveronezi) On 2/12/24 11:55, Daan Hoogland wrote: bump,

Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4.

2024-02-12 Thread Daan Hoogland
bump, @Daniel Salvador is there any technical reason to keep the 4? any reason why there must be a 5 instead of a 21, 22 or 23? We are maintaining 4 number semantic versioning for no reason, as I see it. On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 12:02 PM Daan Hoogland wrote: > > Daniel, "technical" reasons for

Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4.

2024-01-30 Thread Daan Hoogland
Daniel, "technical" reasons for dropping the 4 are all in the field of social engineering. In practice (as I think Wei also described) we are already treating the "minor" version number as major version. Since 4.0 or 4.1 (don´t remember) there has been renewed talk of a 5 , but never enough reason

Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4.

2024-01-26 Thread Wei ZHOU
Hi Daniel, If we are discussing 5.0, I would have the same concern as you. What we are discussing is dropping 4.x. The fact is, we will never release 5.0 (anyone disagree ?) In this case, the major version 4.x becomes useless. If we compare 4.20.0/4.21.0 with 20.0/21.0, it is obvious which is

Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4.

2024-01-26 Thread Guto Veronezi
.10? Regards, Nicolas Vazquez From: Nux Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 6:11 PM To:dev@cloudstack.apache.org Cc: Wei ZHOU Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4. An interesting proposition, I like it. It would also relieve us from having to come up w

Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4.

2024-01-26 Thread Wei ZHOU
ido > >>> > >>>> On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 12:27 AM Wei ZHOU > >> wrote: > >>>>> Yes, the ubuntu version naming is the best in my opinion. > >>>>> Other than the version naming, we need to decide the frequency of > major >

Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4.

2024-01-26 Thread Guto Veronezi
o Ubuntu .04 and .10? Regards, Nicolas Vazquez From: Nux Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 6:11 PM To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Cc: Wei ZHOU Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4. An interesting proposition, I like it. It would also relieve us from h

Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4.

2024-01-26 Thread Wei ZHOU
t; >>> 在 2024年1月23日星期二,Nicolas Vazquez > >>> 写道: > >>> > >>>> I like this idea as well, even if its .MM or YY.MM. > >>>> > >>>> Would we want to define delivery months for releases similar to > >&g

Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4.

2024-01-25 Thread Guto Veronezi
__ From: Nux Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 6:11 PM To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Cc: Wei ZHOU Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4. An interesting proposition, I like it. It would also relieve us from having to come up with any over-the-top feature or change for a

Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4.

2024-01-24 Thread Wido den Hollander
similar to Ubuntu .04 and .10? Regards, Nicolas Vazquez From: Nux Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 6:11 PM To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Cc: Wei ZHOU Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4. An interesting proposition, I like it. It would also relieve us

Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4.

2024-01-24 Thread Wei ZHOU
gt; > > >> Would we want to define delivery months for releases similar to > Ubuntu .04 > > >> and .10? > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> Nicolas Vazquez > > >> > > >> From: Nux >

Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4.

2024-01-24 Thread Daan Hoogland
or releases similar to Ubuntu .04 > >> and .10? > >> > >> Regards, > >> Nicolas Vazquez > >> ____________ > >> From: Nux > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 6:11 PM > >> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > &

Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4.

2024-01-24 Thread Wido den Hollander
if its .MM or YY.MM. Would we want to define delivery months for releases similar to Ubuntu .04 and .10? Regards, Nicolas Vazquez From: Nux Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 6:11 PM To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Cc: Wei ZHOU Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming

Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4.

2024-01-24 Thread Daan Hoogland
we want to define delivery months for releases similar to Ubuntu .04 > > and .10? > > > > Regards, > > Nicolas Vazquez > > > > From: Nux > > Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 6:11 PM > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > >

Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4.

2024-01-23 Thread Wei ZHOU
Tuesday, January 23, 2024 6:11 PM > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Cc: Wei ZHOU > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4. > > An interesting proposition, I like it. > It would also relieve us from having to come up with any over-the-top > feature or change for a

Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4.

2024-01-23 Thread Nicolas Vazquez
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4. An interesting proposition, I like it. It would also relieve us from having to come up with any over-the-top feature or change for a major version change. On 2024-01-23 14:49, Wido den Hollander wrote: > We could look at Ubuntu, and ot

Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4.

2024-01-23 Thread Nux
An interesting proposition, I like it. It would also relieve us from having to come up with any over-the-top feature or change for a major version change. On 2024-01-23 14:49, Wido den Hollander wrote: We could look at Ubuntu, and other projects, and call it 2025.01 if we release it in Jan

Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4.

2024-01-23 Thread Wido den Hollander
Op 22/01/2024 om 12:17 schreef Wei ZHOU: +1 with 20.0 5.0 sounds like a leap with lots of significant changes. Unfortunately it has not been discussed what needs to be done. 20.0 (or 24.0) looks better. We could look at Ubuntu, and other projects, and call it 2025.01 if we release it in

Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4.

2024-01-22 Thread Nux
Then with this kind of thinking we'll need a truly monumental change/features to warrant a "v5". On 2024-01-22 11:17, Wei ZHOU wrote: +1 with 20.0 5.0 sounds like a leap with lots of significant changes. Unfortunately it has not been discussed what needs to be done. 20.0 (or 24.0) looks

Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4.

2024-01-22 Thread Wei ZHOU
+1 with 20.0 5.0 sounds like a leap with lots of significant changes. Unfortunately it has not been discussed what needs to be done. 20.0 (or 24.0) looks better. Wei On Mon, 22 Jan 2024 at 12:01, Daan Hoogland wrote: > João, > I think we should not consider 5.0, but go to 20,0 that is more in

Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4.

2024-01-22 Thread Daan Hoogland
João, I think we should not consider 5.0, but go to 20,0 that is more in line with what we've actually been doing (semantic versioning from the second digit) On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 11:53 AM Nux wrote: > > LGTM! > > On 2024-01-19 19:19, João Jandre Paraquetti wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I agree

Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4.

2024-01-22 Thread Nux
LGTM! On 2024-01-19 19:19, João Jandre Paraquetti wrote: Hi all, I agree that our current versioning schema doesn't make much sense, as "minors" introduce pretty big features; even backward incompatibilities are introduced in minor versions sometimes. As the current plan is to have 4.20 by

Re: [PROPOSAL] version naming : drop the 4.

2024-01-19 Thread João Jandre Paraquetti
Hi all, I agree that our current versioning schema doesn't make much sense, as "minors" introduce pretty big features; even backward incompatibilities are introduced in minor versions sometimes. As the current plan is to have 4.20 by June, I think we should stick to it and still have the