Re: [VOTE] Status of Portal blocks

2004-08-29 Thread Andrew Savory
Hi, On 26 Aug 2004, at 08:57, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: a) mark portal-fw as deprecated +0 (I'm with Giacomo: until portal has all the facilities of portal-fw, we shouldn't mark it deprecated: IIRC, deprecated meant 'likely to disappear after two releases', which is clearly bad for users) b) mark

[VOTE] Status of Portal blocks

2004-08-26 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
We have currently two portal blocks: - the (old) portal-fw block: this is the first portal implementation that is used here and there. The development of this block stopped a long time ago; there were only a few bug fixes and nearly no commits in the last months. - the (new) portal block: this is

Re: [VOTE] Status of Portal blocks

2004-08-26 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 26.08.2004 09:57, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: a) mark portal-fw as deprecated +1 b) mark portal as stable +1 Jörg

Re: [VOTE] Status of Portal blocks

2004-08-26 Thread Giacomo Pati
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: We have currently two portal blocks: - the (old) portal-fw block: this is the first portal implementation that is used here and there. The development of this block stopped a long time ago; there were only a few bug fixes and nearly no commits in the

RE: [VOTE] Status of Portal blocks

2004-08-26 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Giacomo Pati wrote: a) mark portal-fw as deprecated Hmm.. deprecated mean Hey man, go change you portal as it will be removed in the future is this you want to signal? Yes :( The portal-fw is a nice portal framework, but the code is very very ugly (I know it 'cause I wrote it). The new

Re: [VOTE] Status of Portal blocks

2004-08-26 Thread Ralph Goers
At 8/26/2004 12:57 AM, you wrote: a) mark portal-fw as deprecated b) mark portal as stable I am +1 to both of these - with a couple of caveats. 1. The old portal contains at least a minimal amount of portal administration functionality. The new portal contains nothing. 2. The new portal

Re: Improving portals block [was: Re: [VOTE] Status of Portal blocks]

2004-08-26 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Ralph Goers wrote: 1. The old portal contains at least a minimal amount of portal administration functionality. The new portal contains nothing. Unfortunately this is true, but I'm really sure that soon some tools for the new portal will appear and with a little

RE: Improving portals block [was: Re: [VOTE] Status of Portal blocks]

2004-08-26 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Mmmh... I'm not sure the scratch an itch pattern applies to docs. With code, you start scratching because you need a new feature, and since you need to write that new feature for your own need, you can with not much additional cost share it with others. With

RE: [VOTE] Status of Portal blocks

2004-08-26 Thread Giacomo Pati
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Giacomo Pati wrote: a) mark portal-fw as deprecated Hmm.. deprecated mean Hey man, go change you portal as it will be removed in the future is this you want to signal? Yes :( The portal-fw is a nice portal framework, but the code is very very ugly (I

RE: [VOTE] Status of Portal blocks

2004-08-26 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Giacomo Pati wrote: If one deprecates something it suggests a replacement. IIRC the new portal lacks some administration tools which the old one has (user admin, etc.), right? So, what is your suggestion instead of using the old portal block than? If you have an existing project, you

Re: Improving portals block [was: Re: [VOTE] Status of Portal blocks]

2004-08-26 Thread Ralph Goers
Carsten Ziegeler said: Now, let me give the dumb open source answer (this is not targetted at you, Ralph). Cocoon and the portal block are open source. So, if something is missing or not the way you like it etc., you can change it. This is usually how open source works: someone has an itch

Re: [VOTE] Status of Portal blocks

2004-08-26 Thread Joerg Heinicke
Hmm.. deprecated mean Hey man, go change you portal as it will be removed in the future is this you want to signal? Yes :( The portal-fw is a nice portal framework, but the code is very very ugly (I know it 'cause I wrote it). The new portal block is (apart from tools) a 100% replacement which is

RE: [VOTE] Status of Portal blocks

2004-08-26 Thread Giacomo Pati
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: If we deprecate the old portal this gives users the right signal: the development of the old portal has stopped. A stable block indicates that the development continues. IMHO 'deprecated' mean much more than just 'the development of the old portal has

Re: [VOTE] Status of Portal blocks

2004-08-26 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Carsten Ziegeler dijo: a) mark portal-fw as deprecated +1 b) mark portal as stable +1 Best Regards, Antonio Gallardo

Re: [VOTE] Status of Portal blocks

2004-08-26 Thread Reinhard Poetz
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: a) mark portal-fw as deprecated +1 b) mark portal as stable +1 -- Reinhard