Re: Logkit (I know, again) was [RT] Using Spring instead of ECM++

2006-02-19 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Giacomo Pati schrieb: Now, with Spring I would suggest the following approach: Cocoon uses an own application context which can be compared (by simplifying) with a service manager. So we have an application context for the core of Cocoon (again simplified). Now you can define a root Spring

Re: Logkit (I know, again) was [RT] Using Spring instead of ECM++

2006-02-15 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Ralph Goers wrote: If that is the case then I'm -1 on this. We use our own logging framework with Cocoon. I knew this would happen :) Ok, anyway, I would like to get rid off excalibur logging and logkit. Which means, we only use the o.a.a.logging.Logger abstraction which is passed to a component

Re: Logkit (I know, again) was [RT] Using Spring instead of ECM++

2006-02-15 Thread Ralph Goers
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: I knew this would happen :) Ok, anyway, I would like to get rid off excalibur logging and logkit. Which means, we only use the o.a.a.logging.Logger abstraction which is passed to a component through LogEnabled. And we configure a Log4J logger by default for this

Re: Logkit (I know, again) was [RT] Using Spring instead of ECM++

2006-02-15 Thread Giacomo Pati
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 15 Feb 2006, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:20:12 +0100 From: Carsten Ziegeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: Logkit (I know, again) was [RT] Using Spring instead

Logkit (I know, again) was [RT] Using Spring instead of ECM++

2006-02-13 Thread Giacomo Pati
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 13 Feb 2006, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Once we use the Spring based container we can simplify the whole setup process and clean up things like the CoreUtil and the Cocoon class. While we are at discussing cleanups. What about also getting

Re: Logkit (I know, again) was [RT] Using Spring instead of ECM++

2006-02-13 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Giacomo Pati wrote: On Mon, 13 Feb 2006, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Once we use the Spring based container we can simplify the whole setup process and clean up things like the CoreUtil and the Cocoon class. While we are at discussing cleanups. What about also getting rid of logkit and use

Re: Logkit (I know, again) was [RT] Using Spring instead of ECM++

2006-02-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 13 févr. 06, à 14:50, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : Giacomo Pati wrote: ...What about also getting rid of logkit and use what we already have in our dependency lists (log4J, commons-logging, ...)? Yes, please :) I would suggest log4j as commons-logging has problems with classloading (afair)

Re: Logkit (I know, again) was [RT] Using Spring instead of ECM++

2006-02-13 Thread Upayavira
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le 13 févr. 06, à 14:50, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : Giacomo Pati wrote: ...What about also getting rid of logkit and use what we already have in our dependency lists (log4J, commons-logging, ...)? Yes, please :) I would suggest log4j as commons-logging has

Re: Logkit (I know, again) was [RT] Using Spring instead of ECM++

2006-02-13 Thread Reinhard Poetz
Upayavira wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le 13 févr. 06, à 14:50, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : Giacomo Pati wrote: ...What about also getting rid of logkit and use what we already have in our dependency lists (log4J, commons-logging, ...)? Yes, please :) I would suggest log4j as

Re: Logkit (I know, again) was [RT] Using Spring instead of ECM++

2006-02-13 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Giacomo Pati wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 13 Feb 2006, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Once we use the Spring based container we can simplify the whole setup process and clean up things like the CoreUtil and the Cocoon class. While we are at discussing cleanups.

Re: Logkit (I know, again) was [RT] Using Spring instead of ECM++

2006-02-13 Thread Niklas Therning
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: ... Yes, please :) I would suggest log4j as commons-logging has problems with classloading (afair) and noone is using jdk14 logging. Nowadays there's also slf4j (www.slf4j.org). Like commons-logging it's a facade for other logging frameworks but it doesn't suffer

Re: Logkit (I know, again) was [RT] Using Spring instead of ECM++

2006-02-13 Thread Upayavira
Niklas Therning wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: ... Yes, please :) I would suggest log4j as commons-logging has problems with classloading (afair) and noone is using jdk14 logging. Nowadays there's also slf4j (www.slf4j.org). Like commons-logging it's a facade for other logging

Re: Logkit (I know, again) was [RT] Using Spring instead of ECM++

2006-02-13 Thread Berin Loritsch
Niklas Therning wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Yes, please :) I would suggest log4j as commons-logging has problems with classloading (afair) and noone is using jdk14 logging. Nowadays there's also slf4j (www.slf4j.org). Like commons-logging it's a facade for other logging frameworks but it

Re: Logkit (I know, again) was [RT] Using Spring instead of ECM++

2006-02-13 Thread Ralph Goers
Giacomo Pati wrote: While we are at discussing cleanups. What about also getting rid of logkit and use what we already have in our dependency lists (log4J, commons-logging, ...)? I think we definitively need to get a smaller footprint and also get committed to fewer alternatives (of which

Re: Logkit (I know, again) was [RT] Using Spring instead of ECM++

2006-02-13 Thread Giacomo Pati
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 13 Feb 2006, Berin Loritsch wrote: Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 09:58:06 -0500 From: Berin Loritsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: Logkit (I know, again) was [RT] Using Spring instead

Re: Logkit (I know, again) was [RT] Using Spring instead of ECM++

2006-02-13 Thread Giacomo Pati
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 13 Feb 2006, Ralph Goers wrote: Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 07:07:58 -0800 From: Ralph Goers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: Logkit (I know, again) was [RT] Using Spring

Re: Logkit (I know, again) was [RT] Using Spring instead of ECM++

2006-02-13 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Giacomo Pati wrote: If the logger abstraction you mentioned is the Avalon LogEnabled one than yes, we will still have to support that for backward compatability. Of course we will support LogEnabled - with the only difference that you always get a wrapper around a Log4J (or whatever we

Re: Logkit (I know, again) was [RT] Using Spring instead of ECM++

2006-02-13 Thread Niklas Therning
Berin Loritsch wrote: Niklas Therning wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Yes, please :) I would suggest log4j as commons-logging has problems with classloading (afair) and noone is using jdk14 logging. Nowadays there's also slf4j (www.slf4j.org). Like commons-logging it's a facade for other

Re: Logkit (I know, again) was [RT] Using Spring instead of ECM++

2006-02-13 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Ralph Goers wrote: Carsten Ziegeler said: Giacomo Pati wrote: If the logger abstraction you mentioned is the Avalon LogEnabled one than yes, we will still have to support that for backward compatability. Of course we will support LogEnabled - with the only difference that you always get a

Re: Logkit (I know, again) was [RT] Using Spring instead of ECM++

2006-02-13 Thread Ralph Goers
Carsten Ziegeler said: Ralph Goers wrote: Carsten Ziegeler said: What do you mean by always? I thought that we switched the default from logkit to log4j a while ago? What more is needed? This switch never happened - the idea behind this is to remove the support for other logging

Re: Logkit (I know, again) was [RT] Using Spring instead of ECM++

2006-02-13 Thread Giacomo Pati
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 13 Feb 2006, Ralph Goers wrote: Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 13:16:37 -0800 (PST) From: Ralph Goers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: Logkit (I know, again) was [RT] Using Spring instead

Re: Logkit (I know, again) was [RT] Using Spring instead of ECM++

2006-02-13 Thread Ralph Goers
Giacomo Pati wrote: - Can you explain how you use your own under Cocoon? Separate LogEnabled impls? CommonsLogging? I implement org.apache.avalon.excalibur.logging.LoggerManager and org.apache.avalon.excalibur.logging.Logger. These then interface with my logging framework. Ralph

Re: Logkit (I know, again) was [RT] Using Spring instead of ECM++

2006-02-13 Thread Torsten Curdt
On 14.02.2006, at 00:50, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Giacomo Pati wrote: On Mon, 13 Feb 2006, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Once we use the Spring based container we can simplify the whole setup process and clean up things like the CoreUtil and the Cocoon class. While we are at discussing