So can you summarize what you are saying.
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Sent: ?Monday?, ?July? ?6?, ?2015 ?10?:?47? ?AM
To: dev@community.apache.orgmailto:dev@community.apache.org
Hi Konstantin,
No, I am not saying that, neither explicitly nor effectively.
regards,
Pierre Smits
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Services Solutions for Cloud-
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On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:
So can you summarize what
I believe the point is that since we are about consensus it can (and in mt
opinion should) be argued that rules are usually not necessary - respectful
human interaction shouldn't require rules. Occasionally things break down, in
such situations rules for conflict resolution become important,
From: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com
Sent: 7/4/2015 10:08 AM
To: dev@community.apache.orgmailto:dev@community.apache.org
Subject: RE: Incubating, Graduating Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of
Better specifying)
The ASF is about doing the right thing
for Cloud-
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On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 1:36 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:
In the absence of bye-laws the defaults apply.
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://www.orrtiz.com*
Services Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail Trade
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On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 1:36 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:
In the absence of bye-laws the defaults apply.
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Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ross.gard...@microsoft.com
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ross.gard...@microsoft.com'); het volgende
geschreven:
Sorry rushing and as has been pointed out off list auto-correct was not
kind here.
First sentence is unparseable so here it is again:
The ASF is about doing
On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 1:28 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:
No I said if projects don't write bye-laws then the defaults if the Apache
Way apply. If they have local bye-laws they are expected to be in the
spirit of the Apache Way but tuned to the specifics
The ASF is about doing the right thing in code, not loading passport (our the
electronic equivalent). There are default position for most situations in a
project. In the absence of project specific exceptions the default applies.
Most projects are happy with the default and prefer to write code
+1
You want an exec officer to be responsible for the CoC, it's the President.
Ross
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From: hedh...@gmail.com [mailto:hedh...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Niclas Hedhman
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 12:14 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: Better specifying the scope
and Reply All to accept and allow.
Moderation is tedious enough without making it harder to do.
-- Brane
I have raised
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9894
On 27 June 2015 at 17:52, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:
We don't want our lists
I've seen a number of blank emails recently. Probably probe emails.
-Original Message-
From: Bertrand Delacretaz [mailto:bdelacre...@apache.org]
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 1:45 AM
To: dev
Subject: Re: moderators?
Hi,
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 6:06 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH
@community.apache.orgmailto:dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: moderators?
Maybe it's not a problem to just let stuff through.
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 6:06 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:
Who are the moderators for this list? We seem to be getting many emails
that should
, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
Who are the moderators for this list? We seem to be getting many emails
that should not be getting through. Do we need to find some new blood to
spread the load?
Hmm. Isn't that a problem with a moderator letting through something
they shouldn't, rather than
Dennis just sent me a mail off list indicating that he thinks it may be a
technical problem.
Let me look into this when I have more time.
Sent from my Windows Phone
From: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com
Sent: 6/27/2015 9:46 AM
Who are the moderators for this list? We seem to be getting many emails that
should not be getting through. Do we need to find some new blood to spread the
load?
/a/apache-extras.org/hosting/
Finally we'll need to read over the FAQ to update appropriately (I can do that)
- http://community.apache.org/apache-extras/faq.html
Ross
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From: David Nalley [mailto:ke4...@apache.org]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 9:09 AM
To: Ross Gardler (MS
, June 24, 2015 10:23 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Cc: David Nalley; Jim Jagielski
Subject: Re: Apache Extras, Google Code and Sourceforge
On 24 June 2015 at 19:05, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:
Edited out private stuff and moved to ComDev list since we are now
Yep, I have it on my todo list to pretty up the display (though I'm really not
the right one to do that).
(and I fixed my EOL settings, a long time since I used SVN and I completely
forgot about that)
-Original Message-
From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com]
Sent: Monday, June
Inspired by Rich's work on the meetups.com script I have just completed a
somewhat useful webapp. My initial focus was to address the two pain points
Rich identified with his script:
1) Need to manually filter results to remove false positives
2) Scheduling tweets
I tackled the
You can ask infra, but I don't see this as a viable cross project service since
confluence is not standards across all projects. Personally I'd say don't
bother. If you have a solution for Geode then you should stick with that for
now. If others ask then we can think about asking infra. But I
etc.)
Ross
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From: shaposh...@gmail.com [mailto:shaposh...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Roman
Shaposhnik
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 11:45 AM
To: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Cc: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: Shared ASF calendars
On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 11:10 PM, Ross
Thank you for your email, this is very helpul. I'm copying the open office
project team for their information.
Ross
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From: tensizes [mailto:tensi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 12:44 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Source signed by someone not on
...@spielviel.de wrote:
According to http://www.apache.org/dev/machines.html we have a Solaris
Zone already but no virtual machine. Can you reuse that?
Cheers,
Uli
On Wed, June 3, 2015 22:55, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
Do we have a ComDev VM already?
I ask because I would like to install
This is awesome - thanks Rich. I'll do some tweeting with these, I hope others
do too.
(I didn't get to your code this weekend, hopefully soon)
-Original Message-
From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@redhat.com]
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2015 5:57 AM
To: dev
Subject: Apache meetups, week of
I just had a play with Rich's get meetup script and it works beautifully. I
have my plans for making it even more useful but I'm not promising to deliver
just in case I don't find the time to do so. However, as a first step I have
made a couple of contributions to the development tooling.
1)
Melissa is tasked with consolidating and maintaining calendars. I'll put it on
our weekly agenda and figure out out.
In the meantime told like these will make it a viable task.
Sent from my Windows Phone
From: Rich Bowenmailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com
Sent:
Adding preas@
Yes please. I want to work with Sally to figure out how to better amplify ASF
related events without significantly adding to her workload. Having tools like
those you describe are a great start.
Is it possible to make the source available?
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AM
To: dev@community.apache.orgmailto:dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: Apache meetups in the coming week
On 05/29/2015 11:28 AM, Rich Bowen wrote:
On 05/29/2015 11:26 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
Adding preas@
Yes please. I want to work with Sally to figure out how to better
I'd you do make these updates, our seems a link to the source and CMS would be
helpful.
Thanks for your attention
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From: Michael Ricemailto:mr...@redhat.com
Sent: 5/21/2015 3:56 PM
To:
Fair enough. It happens. I suspect the real concern was that the reg list might
have been shared. Thanks for confirming that wasn't the case.
Ross
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From: Roman Shaposhnikmailto:ro...@shaposhnik.org
Sent: 5/14/2015 4:12 PM
To:
Edward, I will send you the State of the Feather presentation offlist.
Ross
-Original Message-
From: Edward J. Yoon [mailto:edwardy...@apache.org]
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 12:09 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: I'm looking for State of the Feather filetype:pptx
Hi community,
Edward, I should also have pointed you at some useful speaker materials at
http://community.apache.org/speakers/slides.html (state of the feather is in
you inbox).
-Original Message-
From: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) [mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 12:26
ApacheCon is created by the LF. It will have a tighter focus on talks that
bring people. Our community defined and selected tracks simply do not create a
good conference (from the perspective of the paying attendee).
What this means is that we have, moving forwards, very little say in what
*we* do not have to ask it. The LF do.
The ASF are responsible for proposing (via CFP) content. We are not responsible
for selecting it.
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From: Pierre Smitsmailto:pierre.sm...@gmail.com
Sent: 4/20/2015 8:05 AM
To:
Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:
*we* do not have to ask it. The LF do.
The ASF are responsible for proposing (via CFP) content. We are not
responsible
To get people involved we need to provide value. Today, we offer no value. So,
if I may, I would like to answer a slightly different question. The one I want
to answer is how can we provide value so that PMCs will proactively maintain a
central events calendar? Here's my starting answer, more
The events calendar *is* owned by ComDev. How far ComDev volunteers want to go
in driving its value is potentially up for debate, but who owns the calendar is
not.
As one volunteer, I want to work with ComDev volunteers to make better use of
the calendar.
Ross
-Original Message-
Anyone can do whatever they want with whatever level of attribution they feel
is appropriate where my decks are concerned. No need to complicate things with
policies or best practice guidelines for anyone to worry about. Just do what
feels right.
Thank you for sharing the world of the ASF, I
exactly the Apache License mean for slides? How can
the Apache licensed slides be reused?
Regards
Krzysztof
On 02.04.2015 23:42, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
You need to look for license information in each of the files. For my own
decks on there they should be considered Apache licensed
http://community.apache.org/speakers/slides.html
for updated stats see https://projects-new.apache.org/ (will eventually be
projects.apache.org)
-Original Message-
From: Krzysztof Sobkowiak [mailto:krzys.sobkow...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 1:16 PM
To:
+1 to lazy consensus - this is a reversible step
-Original Message-
From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:u...@spielviel.de]
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 10:08 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: commit rights to ComDev non-community.a.o site resources
Actually I just realized how dumb
Decision on the below?
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From: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) [mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 4:21 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Proposed Cordova replacement session (was RE: [ApacheCon] Scheduling
help, pass 2)
Here's
, no news since then.
Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm?
Cheers,
Uli
On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016.
We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make
,
Uli
On 2015-03-12 21:40, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
Moving board@ to BCC
I am *not* working on it. I have no idea who said I was (I do hope it
wasn't me!)
All I know is that Jim, David and Roberto are working on it, I don't
know how actively but it is now a priority.
I believe
Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016.
We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make sure that
progress on this is reported in the ComDev board report each quarter.
I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with
Sally we could weave this into the diversity angle, as a reminder I intend to
use the state of the feather to acknowledge that we have mostly failed to move
the needle on diversity in our community, that very little works (GSoC is a
good example of something that does work), accept we don’t
I’m around until the end of next week
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From: Sally Khudairi [mailto:sallykhuda...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 1:15 PM
To: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH); dev@community.apache.org
Cc: Sally Khudairi; pr
, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:
Ahhh... I see no that's just code for I don't have time, but these
folks have shown interest ;-)
I'm happy to help make sure we hit this deadline, but I'm not driving it.
Ross
-Original Message
This has nothing to do with the AOO downloads, it only affects apache-extras.
As far as I'm aware AOO downloads have been fine for a very long time - has
that changed?
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-Original Message-
From: jan i
facilitate the move (and
hence our involvement thus far).
On Thursday, March 12, 2015, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:
It seems there is confusion over who owns the decision. Happy for it
to be ComDev if you are happy from infra perspective.
Ross
Microsoft
in October David asked for feedback on a proof of concept, no
news since then.
Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm?
Cheers,
Uli
On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016.
We need
Is it really necessary for our web pages to be served from Apache hardware? If
so, why?
I understand why we want to control the canonical source, but do we really need
to own web server?
A concern, for me, would be if hosting on GitHub Pages meant that we could not
easily switch to another
: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2
On 03/11/2015 03:05 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
I can give you a content one for mobile (Cordova) as I just confirmed that a
colleague here will be at ApacheCon to organize a tooling BoF on Cordova with
some colleagues in a number of other companies
I can give you a content one for mobile (Cordova) as I just confirmed that a
colleague here will be at ApacheCon to organize a tooling BoF on Cordova with
some colleagues in a number of other companies (Adobe currently being
confirmed). I'll get an abstract out of him to consider along with any
of Universal
App enabler. During this session we will demonstrate what Universal App means
in the context of Cordova. We will look at tooling that can be used to deliver
on the Cordova vision of Universal App (and Cross Platform) paradigm.
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From: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH
: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 3:46 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2
On 03/11/2015 04:53 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
Oh, that was my case study session. That's not so easy to replace.
I do have
in the
characterization, however)
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:04 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:
I said the ASF not Apache Foo. I do agree with your observation with
respect to Apache Foo. Any project which fails to recognize merit of any
sort should reconsider
grow?
Ideally and aspirationally, that is true. Practically speaking, definitely not
true.
On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 6:28 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:
Once again, the ASF makes no distinction between code and other
contributions.
Sent from Windows Mail
I'm -1 on using Apache Foo in a job title. It great confusion between the
paid role and the community role. The community role is not attached to a paid
role. It is connected to the individual.
I see no reason why individuals can't also use ASF titles where appropriate.
I see no problem with a
Subject: Re: What's the ideal job title for somebody who is payed to help ASF
communities grow?
On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:
I'm -1 on using Apache Foo in a job title. It great confusion between the
paid role and the community role
Given what Joe said is exactly what I said I really object to this
confrontational approach.
To your specific question, if someone is speaking *for* a project then they can
only do so with the permission of the project (being a PMC member or committer
does not automatically bestow that
, Mar 8, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote:
On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:
Who said we allow it for engineers? My position is the same for any
community member no matter what they do.
It is all over LI
...@gnsa.us wrote:
On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote:
On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:
Who said we allow it for engineers? My position is the same for any
community member no matter what they do
@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: What's the ideal job title for somebody who is payed to help ASF
communities grow?
On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote:
On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:
Who said
+1
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-Original Message-
From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@redhat.com]
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 8:53 AM
To: dev
Subject: [VOTE] Replace projects.apache.org with projects-new.apache.org
I'd like for us to go ahead and
Trials lead to services that need to be maintained. No trial unless we know we
can maintain it.
For that to happen someone needs to come up with a full proposal for the infra
team to evaluate with clear justification for the approach and clarity on how
ASF budgets would need to scale to
At this point you should make your interest known on the existing Groovy lists.
The project has not yet made a proposal to the incubator, I'm sure they could
use help with that.
Alternatively wait until the proposal hits gene...@incubator.apache.org and get
involved there.
Sent from my
An excellent thought, but every service adds overhead on the infra team. If
there were enough projects demanding it I guess we would find a way of
providing it. So how many projects demand it? Do infra feel that that is
enough?
What if infra provided VMs and PMCs managed the instances
are more represented than
those that didn't.
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:
I covered that in a separate mail. In the end I left your track untouched.
I've recorded it in the spreadsheet as a container track for you.
Ross
+1 to What Rich says
Community managed examinations are unlikely to be adequately maintained.
However, someone making a living out of it whilst also respecting our marks
helps to grow the community. We should leave that space open for people with
the time and skills.
Ross
Microsoft Open
LGTM
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-Original Message-
From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com]
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 1:19 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: DevOps tracks
On 02/19/2015 08:54 AM, jan i wrote:
Hold on
need that by Sunday if possible. Thanks.
On 02/19/2015 03:54 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
Yep, I'll get it ASAP and share here.
Ross
-Original Message-
From: Joe Brockmeier [mailto:j...@zonker.net]
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 3:48 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
trying to not be outsmarted by his Shetland sheepdog
while watching British panel quiz shows.
-Original Message-
From: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 12:51 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: RE: ApacheCon Schedule
I can't comment on the time (I haven't
form a big part of ACNA, we really need a higher number of
wait-listed tasks.
just for info, adding the row# from the spreadsheet, helps the postprocess
work.
rgds
jan i
On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:
Formatting is screwy, here's
Re pushing out to PMCs. Historically this has not been a good idea. Once you
have 200+ PMCs and PPMCs fighting over 200+ slots you get a horribly disjointed
program with no real value.
This is one reason why I want LF to set the theme. We can then create a smaller
list of PMCs that fit the
cloud based VMs to build community
-Original Message-
From: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) [mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:52 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: RE: DevOps tracks
Damn wrapping messed up again, here's a readable version (removed
I just added 4 sessions. There is one more for the community track if Joe wants
it (not in CFP). So there is space for a 6 session track from Hadrian.
Sent from my Windows Phone
From: jan imailto:j...@apache.org
Sent: 2/19/2015 7:59 AM
To:
Zero to Test Driven Infrastructure Workflow in Six Hours
Using cloud based VMs to build community
-Original Message-
From: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) [mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 6:15 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: DevOps tracks
Rich
Subject: Re: Cloud, Big Data and DevOps tracks
What happened with the container track? I don't see that reflected in the
Cloud track.
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015, at 12:23 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
I've put together three tracks (if there is space), if not then we can
talk about which ones
, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
Thanks Joe, if you don't mind I'd like to hold on the container track.
I'm putting together a larger group of cloud tracks and trying to weave
a narrative through the whole thing. This includes containers. The good
news is you and I mostly agree on the valuable
To: dev@community.apache.orgmailto:dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: [ApacheCon NA 2015] Proposed tracks Community + Containers
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015, at 02:01 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
Thanks Joe, if you don't mind I'd like to hold on the container track.
I'm putting together a larger
] Proposed tracks Community + Containers
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015, at 02:01 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
Thanks Joe, if you don't mind I'd like to hold on the container track.
I'm putting together a larger group of cloud tracks and trying to weave
a narrative through the whole thing. This includes
: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 11:35 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: [ApacheCon] Big Data track?
On 02/17/2015 02:29 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015, at 12:13 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
I'll do this as part of my
? Also when I might see your draft track?
Thanks.
On 02/17/2015 01:13 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
I'll do this as part of my Cloud tracks (see why I chose such a broad
term ;-)
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From
I agree Joe,
We only have a very few immutable rules. Everything else is policy. As long as
policy don't break those immutable rules the they can shift and change as much
as they need to in order to empower individual project communities.
Coincidentally I wrote a presentation on this very
Yep. I've added some such comments, but got frustrated with the only CFP so am
now working in a spreadsheet you can't see (sorry).
If you see my name in a owning comment drop me a mail and we can talk about
which track it fits best.
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[mailto:seb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 9:50 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: Apache Way talks
On 16 February 2015 at 16:51, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:
I think that's exactly it. If we write policy down it becomes a rule.
Huh?
Written
Thanks Joe, if you don't mind I'd like to hold on the container track. I'm
putting together a larger group of cloud tracks and trying to weave a
narrative through the whole thing. This includes containers. The good news is
you and I mostly agree on the valuable container related talks are. I'll
It's probably best we start an online doc somewhere...
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-Original Message-
From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com]
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 12:29 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: Knowing which
talks
On Sat, 14 Feb 2015, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
There is value in these sessions, some people are completely new and we
probably should still schedule them. However, I think we ought to do
some new stuff along the lines of:
How is the ASF different from other foundations?
Why
Sent: 2/14/2015 9:48 AM
To: dev@community.apache.orgmailto:dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: Apache Way talks
On 14-02-2015, at 11:47, Nick Burch n...@apache.org wrote:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2015, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
There is value in these sessions, some people are completely new
I don't believe there is (certainly shouldn't be) a restriction on wiki access.
That said as a PMC member I was completely unaware there is a ComDev wiki.
Sent from my Windows Phone
From: Bertrand Delacretazmailto:bdelacre...@apache.org
Sent: 2/5/2015 1:05 AM
Allowing everyone to rate every session will always result in an average of
accept. I recommend the individual track leads make a judgement call. They can
consult with any experts they feel they should
We want great content, not averaged content.
The model we use in GSoC works well (the
If LF want to do it they can. It's their conference. I totally agree that we
should not be a part of it.
We discussed this when negotiation the contract. Buying sessions is not on the
cards.
However, my point is not about sales pitches or bought slots. Mine is about
taking it too far. People
We should not explore anything. It's an LF responsibility.
(I know I said this about 5 times in quick succession, sorry. I just want to
make sure we don't start becoming ConCom. ApacheCon has been outsourced to LF)
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From: Pierre
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Subject: Re: ApacheCon NA CFP closed
On Wednesday, February 4, 2015, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote:
On 02/04/2015 11:21 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
Sally is not part of the ACNA process. Nobody in the ASF is. This is an
LF event.
We can
Sally is not part of the ACNA process. Nobody in the ASF is. This is an LF
event.
We can (and should) make recommendations to LF but we are are not to take on
responsibility for these things. That takes us back to where we were with
ConCom.
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Dropping board to BCC.
Note that:
If ComDev is going to host this stuff, then ComDev should have the say
in what the actual requirements are.
Absolutely! And right now I'm personally volunteering my cycles to help with
that within the ComDev framework.
Is exactly the kind of
On Wednesday, February 4, 2015, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:
I never intended to say that we should not take responsibility for
content. I intended to say LF should take responsibility for defining
the theme of the conference they want to market and we *help
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