Hi Alex,
On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 6:03 PM Alex Harui wrote:
> ...Does the ASF have an example of a cross-project list that failed?...
I cannot remember that - I pointed to Stefano's Law of Busy Lists as a
reason to create a single tech@ list as opposed to multiple ones for
smaller audiences.
Hi Bertrand,
Your link took me to a post about splitting lists because some list is busy,
but AIUI, this proposal for iot@ is to communicate between related projects.
Does the ASF have an example of a cross-project list that failed?
Thanks,
-Alex
On 6/7/19, 4:34 AM, "Bertrand Delacretaz"
On Fri, 7 Jun 2019 at 12:58, Christofer Dutz wrote:
>
> Hi Bertrand,
>
> There was a discussion about subscription only lists ... is that possible?
Yes, that can be requested.
A bit more work for contributors up front, but less work for moderators.
To forestall questions, I recommend
On 6/7/19 3:26 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
Hi Chris,
On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 4:02 PM Christofer Dutz
wrote:
...I would really like to create an...@apache.org mailinglist...
Allow me to insist;-)
What's wrong with an [iot] subject line tag on at...@apache.org mailing list?
I've
Hi Bertrand,
There was a discussion about subscription only lists ... is that possible?
But I think if I sign up as moderator for c) I would probably start writing a
moderation-bot
as soon as I get more than 2 moderation emails with the same title in the
payload:
-> decline all of them __
Hi Chris,
On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 1:44 PM Christofer Dutz
wrote:
> ...So I guess we'll just vote on it ... do we have 2-way votes?..
You can setup any poll or vote that works, I'd say
a) no new list
b) create a tech@a.o list that's expected to be used with
[subject][line][tags] only
c) create
I Bertrand,
Well I still think that I personally would rather sign up to an
i...@apache.org mailinglist than to a t...@apache.org one.
So I guess we'll just vote on it ... do we have 2-way votes?
Sort of:
-1: No: don't want any list
+T: Yes, but want a tech-list
+I: Yes, but want an IoT-list
On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 12:48 PM Christofer Dutz
wrote:
> ...For me it looks as if tech@ would be one huge list ...
It *might* eventually become large, then big, then huge...but like
everything it will start small.
If it does indeed grow, it *might* be fine to farm out specific busy
topics to
Hi Bertrand,
For me it looks as if tech@ would be one huge list ...
and the amount of emails of interest to me would be only a fraction.
Having named topic lists would help focus.
It would allow to skim the topics and react on the ones of interest.
Guess a tech-list would just feel like being
We can have both. And if we can have only one thing I'm in favor of the
project category list that Chris suggested.
If we have one huge list it'll just mean more mails etc., people having to
set up filters or skip over stuff they are not interested in.
I can imagine a single bigdata@ list to be
Hi Chris,
On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 4:02 PM Christofer Dutz
wrote:
> ...I would really like to create an i...@apache.org mailinglist...
Allow me to insist ;-)
What's wrong with an [iot] subject line tag on a t...@apache.org mailing list?
The problem with single-topic lists is that discussions
I agree too. Setting up lists like this would also make it easier to
orchestrate tracks and BoFs for conferences.
Best,
Myrle
On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 9:10 PM Julian Feinauer wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> I agree with your suggestion and I see a real need for that.
> I am active in multiple projects /
Hi Chris,
I agree with your suggestion and I see a real need for that.
I am active in multiple projects / podlings in the iot ecosystem and there are
many people not knowing what others are doing and there is very few "glue"
between these projects.
This is a pitty, as it really helps to get a
Ok ... that went out prematurely ;-)
But not much more to say.
Chris
Am 06.06.19, 16:02 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" :
Refreshing this ... as I noticed again that other projects don't seem to be
aware of what we have in the ASF ... I would really like to create an
i...@apache.org
Refreshing this ... as I noticed again that other projects don't seem to be
aware of what we have in the ASF ... I would really like to create an
i...@apache.org mailinglist, which is subscribers-only.
Any objections?
Am 03.01.19, 15:57 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" :
That sounds good ...
That sounds good ... didn't even know this was possible __ ... you never stop
learning __
Chris
Am 03.01.19, 14:33 schrieb "sebb" :
It may be worth asking Infra to set up the list so that moderation is
not required.
i.e. only subscribers may post.
This obviously requires
It may be worth asking Infra to set up the list so that moderation is
not required.
i.e. only subscribers may post.
This obviously requires a bit more work initially for the poster, but
the list is presumably intended for more than casual use.
There will still need to be a moderator to take care
Well naturally I would opt in as Moderator for taking care of this.
i...@apache.org
Chris
Am 03.01.19, 12:08 schrieb "Bertrand Delacretaz" :
Hi Chris,
On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 11:20 AM Christofer Dutz
wrote:
> ...But I think in this case we get another general list without
michaelpav...@email.com
On Jan 3, 2019 7:08 PM, "Bertrand Delacretaz"
wrote:
Hi Chris,
On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 11:20 AM Christofer Dutz
wrote:
> ...But I think in this case we get another general list without any
focus. I think
> this would prevent people from subscribing
It is certainly
Hi Chris,
On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 11:20 AM Christofer Dutz
wrote:
> ...But I think in this case we get another general list without any focus. I
> think
> this would prevent people from subscribing
It is certainly a question of balance, but I was hearing "it's easy to
create lists so let's
)
Chris
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From: Bertrand Delacretaz
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 10:48:33 AM
To: dev
Subject: Re: Introducing lists based on the overall project categories?
On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 6:01 PM Christofe
On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 6:01 PM Christofer Dutz
wrote:
> ...I think creating them wouldn't be a huge overhead .
Creating lists is easy but that doesn't mean they will be used, and
oversight of multiple lists is a burden (for comdev? or which PMC is
in charge of them?). And scattered
+1
Sounds good. Using the self-service platform it indeed is fairly easy to
request the mailing list(s) ;)
Roy
Op zo 30 dec. 2018 om 18:01 schreef Christofer Dutz <
christofer.d...@c-ware.de>:
> I think creating them wouldn't be a huge overhead ...
>
> and then we could simply notify the dev-lists
Are we starting with iot@ or are we creating other lists as well, e.g.
streaming@ (Flink, Spark, Storm, Heron .) and big-data@ (Hadoop, Metron
) and so on.
And were do we document the existence of these lists or do we leave it to
the projects if they want to point to the iot@a.o (as an
So how would we create such a list?
Chris
Am 17.12.18, 09:44 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" :
Well I'd be happy to help moderating this. What's "one more list" in the
moderation inbox?
Do we have to vote on setting up the "i...@apache.org" list ... if yes ...
do we do it here? Or
Well I'd be happy to help moderating this. What's "one more list" in the
moderation inbox?
Do we have to vote on setting up the "i...@apache.org" list ... if yes ... do
we do it here? Or could someone just create it.
Chris
PS: Do we have a web-tool for moderation? Right now all moderators
Sounds good Chris that's using the old noodle
On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 5:53 AM Rich Bowen +1 to the concept, and there's precedent with the geospatial list.
>
> Bertrand mentions the tech@ list but I don't think anybody knows that it's
> there or what it is for. Lists with topic names seem to have
+1 to the concept, and there's precedent with the geospatial list.
Bertrand mentions the tech@ list but I don't think anybody knows that it's
there or what it is for. Lists with topic names seem to have better
discoverability.
Note also that they attract more spam so ensure that you have some
Hi Chris,
On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 9:34 AM Christofer Dutz
wrote:
> ...As we have a list of general categories for our projects, how about
> creating
> general “@apache.org” mailinglists for each of these categories for the
> purpose
> of coordinating such efforts
I would rather start with
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