Re: Introducing lists based on the overall project categories?

2019-06-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Chris, On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 4:02 PM Christofer Dutz wrote: > ...I would really like to create an i...@apache.org mailinglist... Allow me to insist ;-) What's wrong with an [iot] subject line tag on a t...@apache.org mailing list? The problem with single-topic lists is that discussions

Re: Introducing lists based on the overall project categories?

2019-06-07 Thread Lars Francke
We can have both. And if we can have only one thing I'm in favor of the project category list that Chris suggested. If we have one huge list it'll just mean more mails etc., people having to set up filters or skip over stuff they are not interested in. I can imagine a single bigdata@ list to be

Re: Introducing lists based on the overall project categories?

2019-06-07 Thread Christofer Dutz
I Bertrand, Well I still think that I personally would rather sign up to an i...@apache.org mailinglist than to a t...@apache.org one. So I guess we'll just vote on it ... do we have 2-way votes? Sort of: -1: No: don't want any list +T: Yes, but want a tech-list +I: Yes, but want an IoT-list

Re: Introducing lists based on the overall project categories?

2019-06-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Chris, On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 1:44 PM Christofer Dutz wrote: > ...So I guess we'll just vote on it ... do we have 2-way votes?.. You can setup any poll or vote that works, I'd say a) no new list b) create a tech@a.o list that's expected to be used with [subject][line][tags] only c) create

Re: Introducing lists based on the overall project categories?

2019-06-07 Thread Rich Bowen
On 6/7/19 3:26 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Hi Chris, On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 4:02 PM Christofer Dutz wrote: ...I would really like to create an...@apache.org mailinglist... Allow me to insist;-) What's wrong with an [iot] subject line tag on at...@apache.org mailing list? I've

Re: Introducing lists based on the overall project categories?

2019-06-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 12:48 PM Christofer Dutz wrote: > ...For me it looks as if tech@ would be one huge list ... It *might* eventually become large, then big, then huge...but like everything it will start small. If it does indeed grow, it *might* be fine to farm out specific busy topics to

Re: Introducing lists based on the overall project categories?

2019-06-07 Thread sebb
On Fri, 7 Jun 2019 at 12:58, Christofer Dutz wrote: > > Hi Bertrand, > > There was a discussion about subscription only lists ... is that possible? Yes, that can be requested. A bit more work for contributors up front, but less work for moderators. To forestall questions, I recommend

[VOTE] Create a mailinglist for intra-project communication

2019-06-07 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi all, I would like to propose to introduce a new mailing-list for intra-project communication. As it is my primary goal to help communication in the IoT field at Apache I would like your votes on this. As we have the option to create a general purpose list (tech@) or a topic-dependent one

Re: Introducing lists based on the overall project categories?

2019-06-07 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi Bertrand, For me it looks as if tech@ would be one huge list ... and the amount of emails of interest to me would be only a fraction. Having named topic lists would help focus. It would allow to skim the topics and react on the ones of interest. Guess a tech-list would just feel like being

Re: Introducing lists based on the overall project categories?

2019-06-07 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi Bertrand, There was a discussion about subscription only lists ... is that possible? But I think if I sign up as moderator for c) I would probably start writing a moderation-bot as soon as I get more than 2 moderation emails with the same title in the payload: -> decline all of them __

Re: [VOTE] Create a mailinglist for intra-project communication

2019-06-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 4:50 PM Christofer Dutz wrote: > A list, this vote should settle the discussion about which option to > take... FWIW as I have said, whoever does the work decide - so if you and a few others from the comdev PMC (I'd say 2-3 moderators are needed) are willing to

Re: Introducing lists based on the overall project categories?

2019-06-07 Thread Alex Harui
Hi Bertrand, Your link took me to a post about splitting lists because some list is busy, but AIUI, this proposal for iot@ is to communicate between related projects. Does the ASF have an example of a cross-project list that failed? Thanks, -Alex On 6/7/19, 4:34 AM, "Bertrand Delacretaz"

[jira] [Updated] (COMDEV-319) Use Whimsy JSON data instead of ldapsearch

2019-06-07 Thread Qhoriyah yusri (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-319?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Qhoriyah yusri updated COMDEV-319: -- Attachment: -Bose Connect-.htm > Use Whimsy JSON data instead of ldapsearch >

Re: [VOTE] Create a mailinglist for intra-project communication

2019-06-07 Thread Naomi S
On Fri, 7 Jun 2019 at 15:52, Christofer Dutz wrote: > Hi all, > > I would like to propose to introduce a new mailing-list for intra-project > communication. > I think we should be cautious about creating new foundation-wide lists. unless there's an existing group or activity that the list

Re: [VOTE] Create a mailinglist for intra-project communication

2019-06-07 Thread Naomi S
my mistake, Christofer. I didn't spot that it had been re-started with a new discussion > b) create a tech@a.o list that's expected to be used with [subject][line][tags] only -1 without a moderation team including multiple ComDev PMC members > c) create an

Re: Introducing lists based on the overall project categories?

2019-06-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Alex, On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 6:03 PM Alex Harui wrote: > ...Does the ASF have an example of a cross-project list that failed?... I cannot remember that - I pointed to Stefano's Law of Busy Lists as a reason to create a single tech@ list as opposed to multiple ones for smaller audiences.

[jira] [Commented] (COMDEV-319) Use Whimsy JSON data instead of ldapsearch

2019-06-07 Thread Qhoriyah yusri (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-319?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=16858786#comment-16858786 ] Qhoriyah yusri commented on COMDEV-319: --- This is fine.but some little bit confused  > Use Whimsy

AW: [VOTE] Create a mailinglist for intra-project communication

2019-06-07 Thread Julian Feinauer
C) and I also. Volunteer for moderation as this concern was raised. Julian Von meinem Mobiltelefon gesendet Ursprüngliche Nachricht Betreff: Re: [VOTE] Create a mailinglist for intra-project communication Von: Naomi S An: ComDev Cc: my mistake, Christofer. I didn't spot that

[jira] [Issue Comment Deleted] (COMDEV-319) Use Whimsy JSON data instead of ldapsearch

2019-06-07 Thread Shane Curcuru (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-319?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Shane Curcuru updated COMDEV-319: - Comment: was deleted (was: This is fine.but some little bit confused ) > Use Whimsy JSON data

[jira] [Updated] (COMDEV-319) Use Whimsy JSON data instead of ldapsearch

2019-06-07 Thread Shane Curcuru (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-319?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Shane Curcuru updated COMDEV-319: - Attachment: (was: -Bose Connect-.htm) > Use Whimsy JSON data instead of ldapsearch >

[jira] [Updated] (COMDEV-319) Use Whimsy JSON data instead of ldapsearch

2019-06-07 Thread Shane Curcuru (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-319?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Shane Curcuru updated COMDEV-319: - Attachment: (was: ADCLK854.pdf) > Use Whimsy JSON data instead of ldapsearch >

Re: [VOTE] Create a mailinglist for intra-project communication

2019-06-07 Thread Andrew Garza
C) On Fri, Jun 7, 2019, 10:50 AM Christofer Dutz wrote: > Then please just read the other lengthy thread on this list. We have had > multiple iterations of discussions about this and there was a general > consensus on establishing A list, this vote should settle the discussion > about which

Re: [VOTE] Create a mailinglist for intra-project communication

2019-06-07 Thread Qhoriyah Yusri
Pada Jum, 7 Jun 2019 9:51 PM Christofer Dutz menulis: > Hi all, > > I would like to propose to introduce a new mailing-list for intra-project > communication. > As it is my primary goal to help communication in the IoT field at Apache > I would like your votes on this. > > As we have the option

[jira] [Updated] (COMDEV-319) Use Whimsy JSON data instead of ldapsearch

2019-06-07 Thread Qhoriyah yusri (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-319?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Qhoriyah yusri updated COMDEV-319: -- Attachment: ADCLK854.pdf > Use Whimsy JSON data instead of ldapsearch >

Re: [VOTE] Create a mailinglist for intra-project communication

2019-06-07 Thread sebb
On Fri, 7 Jun 2019 at 16:29, Naomi S wrote: > > my mistake, Christofer. I didn't spot that it had been re-started with a > new discussion > > > b) create a tech@a.o list that's expected to be used > with [subject][line][tags] only > > -1 without a moderation team including

Re: [VOTE] Create a mailinglist for intra-project communication

2019-06-07 Thread Naomi S
On Fri, 7 Jun 2019 at 16:41, Naomi S wrote: > > consensus building should be used before any options are tabled for voting > "tabled" in the British English sense! (i.e., put forward) (thanks Joan...)

Re: [VOTE] Create a mailinglist for intra-project communication

2019-06-07 Thread Christofer Dutz
Then please just read the other lengthy thread on this list. We have had multiple iterations of discussions about this and there was a general consensus on establishing A list, this vote should settle the discussion about which option to take. Chris Outlook für Android

Re: [VOTE] Create a mailinglist for intra-project communication

2019-06-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 3:51 PM Christofer Dutz wrote: ... > b) create a tech@a.o list that's expected to be used with > [subject][line][tags] only ... +1 and I volunteer as a moderator. -Bertrand - To

Re: [VOTE] Create a mailinglist for intra-project communication

2019-06-07 Thread Christofer Dutz
c) Chris Outlook für Android herunterladen From: Qhoriyah Yusri Sent: Friday, June 7, 2019 4:20:55 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Create a mailinglist for intra-project communication Pada Jum, 7 Jun 2019 9:51 PM

Re: [VOTE] Create a mailinglist for intra-project communication

2019-06-07 Thread Lars Francke
+1 on c) On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 3:51 PM Christofer Dutz wrote: > Hi all, > > I would like to propose to introduce a new mailing-list for intra-project > communication. > As it is my primary goal to help communication in the IoT field at Apache > I would like your votes on this. > > As we have