Re: Apache Way talks

2015-02-16 Thread sebb
On 16 February 2015 at 16:51, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: I think that's exactly it. If we write policy down it becomes a rule. Huh? Written policy only becomes a rule if the document declares it as such - or perhaps, fails to declare it as policy. There seem

RE: Apache Way talks

2015-02-16 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
I agree Joe, We only have a very few immutable rules. Everything else is policy. As long as policy don't break those immutable rules the they can shift and change as much as they need to in order to empower individual project communities. Coincidentally I wrote a presentation on this very

Re: Apache Way talks

2015-02-16 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On Sat, Feb 14, 2015, at 01:38 PM, jan i wrote: I have a feeling that we are standing at a crossroad where many questions like Directd funding, ApacheCON, entry ticket to ASF (Incubator/pTLP) tear us apart, and I believe it is high time the members of ASF take a stand (whatever it may be),

RE: Knowing which talks are already claimed by another ApacheCon track?

2015-02-16 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Yep. I've added some such comments, but got frustrated with the only CFP so am now working in a spreadsheet you can't see (sorry). If you see my name in a owning comment drop me a mail and we can talk about which track it fits best. Sent from my Windows Phone

Knowing which talks are already claimed by another ApacheCon track?

2015-02-16 Thread Nick Burch
Hi All I'm trying to finalise the Content Technologies track for Austin, but I'm struggling to know which talks have already been claimed by other tracks. Some of the ones I want to include have review comments which suggest they might have been, and some I'd just guess might be. I can't

RE: Apache Way talks

2015-02-16 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
I didn't intend to say *all* rules are unnecessary. I said we have very few necessary rules. I didn't intend to say policy *is* rule, I said it is interpreted as rule. Ross Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation -Original Message- From: sebb

Re: Fast Feather Track - anyone want to take charge for Austin?

2015-02-16 Thread jan i
On 16 February 2015 at 20:38, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote: On 02/16/2015 12:06 PM, jan i wrote: Hi No response here, so I assume the FFT will be covered by Nick. My impression was that he was saying that he was *not* doing it, and was looking for a replacement. So was mine,

Re: Knowing which talks are already claimed by another ApacheCon track?

2015-02-16 Thread Rich Bowen
On 02/16/2015 11:49 AM, Nick Burch wrote: Hi All I'm trying to finalise the Content Technologies track for Austin, but I'm struggling to know which talks have already been claimed by other tracks. Some of the ones I want to include have review comments which suggest they might have been, and

RE: [ApacheCon NA 2015] Proposed tracks Community + Containers

2015-02-16 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Thanks Joe, if you don't mind I'd like to hold on the container track. I'm putting together a larger group of cloud tracks and trying to weave a narrative through the whole thing. This includes containers. The good news is you and I mostly agree on the valuable container related talks are. I'll

Re: Apache Way talks

2015-02-16 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: I agree Joe, We only have a very few immutable rules. Everything else is policy. As long as policy don't break those immutable rules the they can shift and change as much as they need to in order to empower individual

Re: Fast Feather Track - anyone want to take charge for Austin?

2015-02-16 Thread Rich Bowen
On 02/16/2015 12:06 PM, jan i wrote: Hi No response here, so I assume the FFT will be covered by Nick. My impression was that he was saying that he was *not* doing it, and was looking for a replacement. rgds jan i. On 13 February 2015 at 12:48, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: On

RE: Knowing which talks are already claimed by another ApacheCon track?

2015-02-16 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
It's probably best we start an online doc somewhere... Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation -Original Message- From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 12:29 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: Knowing which

Re: A maturity model for Apache projects

2015-02-16 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 1/20/15 9:02 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Hi Justin, On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 7:37 AM, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com wrote: ...Perhaps change CD10 to this? The project produces royalty free Open Source software for distribution to the public at no charge is straight