Re: Community Track at ApacheCon Europe?

2012-07-16 Thread Pierre Smits
Hi all, I might not be that much versed in Apache terminology, but what is a 'community track'? And what are/is the definition of the other kind? Please help me understand? Regards, Pierre 2012/7/16 Nick Burch nick.bu...@alfresco.com Hi All I'm currently in the process of putting the

Re: Community Track at ApacheCon Europe?

2012-07-16 Thread Pierre Smits
Hi Nick, If we explain it as not being project specific but as elaborating on the dynamics of OS communities in general and of Apache communities in particular, then I understand it. Regards, Pierre 2012/7/16 Nick Burch nick.bu...@alfresco.com On Mon, 16 Jul 2012, Pierre Smits wrote: I

Re: Open Source Organizational Culture

2014-05-03 Thread Pierre Smits
Foundation) and which should be offered assistance to improve. But it should be communicated to all within all projects. Regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com

Re: ComDev scope and lists

2014-06-07 Thread Pierre Smits
For sure, onboarding of newcomers is important. Same goes for committer relations. But how about contributor relations, mediation and such? Regards, Pierre Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail

Re: ApacheCon EU CFP Review - Help needed

2014-06-18 Thread Pierre Smits
I am happy to assist in the review. My id is: PierreSmits Regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com

Re: ApacheCon EU CFP Review - Help needed

2014-06-19 Thread Pierre Smits
Rich, Thanks for adding me. Regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com wrote: I am happy

Re: ApacheCon CFP closed, now the hard work starts

2014-06-26 Thread Pierre Smits
Rich, Doesn't the number of talks per day or even track also depend on the duration of each talk? What is the goal (duration wise)? I have about 10 OFBiz talks lined up, but don't have a clue yet about how long each is intended to be. Regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com

Re: ApacheCon CFP closed, now the hard work starts

2014-06-26 Thread Pierre Smits
Rich, Thanks, I will confer with the submitters to see where stuff can be combined. Regards, Pierre Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 5:18

Re: ApacheCon CFP closed, now the hard work starts

2014-06-26 Thread Pierre Smits
Rich, Including a column that shows the main project involved might also help. Regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Rich

Proposing for Apache Member?

2014-07-08 Thread Pierre Smits
Hi All, Is it possible that contributors of a project can propose a community member to be elected as an Apache Member? Regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com

Re: Proposing for Apache Member?

2014-07-08 Thread Pierre Smits
is a community) we could set up a discussion whether or not article 4.1 should be extended in such a way that nominations by others (than members) can be submitted, and whether or not such nominations should be accompanied by a notice of sponsorship by an existing ASF Member. Regards, Pierre Smits

Re: Proposing for Apache Member?

2014-07-08 Thread Pierre Smits
All, Taking into consideration that nominate and propose - in general and in this context - mean the same and that any contributor can propose potentials for ASF Membership, shouldn't the by-laws of the Foundation reflect this? Regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services

Re: ApacheCon EU: What I need help with

2014-07-08 Thread Pierre Smits
Hi Rich, That first link that you included redirects to http://tm3.org Regards, Pierre Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Rich Bowen

Re: Proposing for Apache Member?

2014-07-09 Thread Pierre Smits
It is a bit strange to read that 'Contributor' is not the official role for anybody who is committed to an Apache project. Equally strange is it to read that both the 'User' and the 'Developer' is defined/explained as the person who is contributing. Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http

Re: Proposing for Apache Member?

2014-07-11 Thread Pierre Smits
-it-works.html#roles be amended (with respect to definitons 'User' and 'Developer) in such a way that it reflects that? Regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Thu, Jul

Re: ApacheCon EU: What I need help with

2014-07-15 Thread Pierre Smits
Rich I got the understanding that planned breaks are intended for coffee in the morning, lunch and coffee in the afternoon. Could you communicate the time slots for these, so that they can be included in tentative schedule planning? Regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com

Banner Apachecon on website pages

2014-07-21 Thread Pierre Smits
Hi All, Currently several pages are showing the banner for the Apachecon US 2014 event in Denver. Shouldn't we change that with the banner for the Apachecon EU 2014 event in Budapest? Regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing

Re: Banner Apachecon on website pages

2014-07-21 Thread Pierre Smits
. Is this what is wanted by the ASF? Regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:29 AM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: On 21 July 2014 11:24

Re: Corrections for http://apacheconeu2014.sched.org/, where?

2014-07-24 Thread Pierre Smits
I am wondering about that too. Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Sergio Fernández wik...@apache.org wrote: In addition, I never

Re: Corrections for http://apacheconeu2014.sched.org/, where?

2014-07-24 Thread Pierre Smits
Jan, You mean the user name as used when registering the talk at the LF site? Regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Jan Willem

Re: more prominence for ASF activities?

2014-07-25 Thread Pierre Smits
(including conferences). And I would say that the first upcoming (and rated as most important) event should have a nice image on the front page to click directly to that event. Regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional

Measuring Contributors, Contributions and Community Actvity

2014-08-02 Thread Pierre Smits
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Re: ApacheCon w/ infant - logistics

2014-08-12 Thread Pierre Smits
be, you can even contact them (Ms Ilona Guba - 0036 1 4502193). Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Isabel Drost-Fromm isa

Apachecon US 2015 Texas

2014-09-17 Thread Pierre Smits
Hi Rich, All, Is a timetable/ list of milestone dates available regarding the event, stating when papers need to be submitted, reviewed, etc.? Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail

OFBiz @ Apachecon EU 2014

2014-09-18 Thread Pierre Smits
://apacheconeu2014.sched.org/overview/type/ofbiz Best regards, and looking forward to meeting you there in person. Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com

Re: [NOTICE] Welcome Ulrich Stärk as new Community Development PMC Chair

2014-09-18 Thread Pierre Smits
Not only congratulations to Ulrich, but also thanks to Luciano! Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Luciano Resende luckbr1

Re: Apachecon US 2015 Texas

2014-09-19 Thread Pierre Smits
Rich, Please present a list of areas and activities that require assistence. I contribute where and whenever I can. Regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Thu

Re: ApacheCon - How you can help

2014-09-21 Thread Pierre Smits
Also done in the Apache Dirctory mailing list. Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad Op 19 sep. 2014 om 15:37 heeft Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com het volgende geschreven: Here's the most important ways that you can help with ApacheCon EU right now, in order of importance. * If you are involved in

Re: Tweets for ApacheCon (was Re: ApacheCon - How you can help)

2014-09-24 Thread Pierre Smits
Joe, That was a great catch phrase about the beer and the OFBiz talk. Kudos! Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:03 AM, Joe

ASF Status website and project health reporting

2014-10-03 Thread Pierre Smits
the periods? But also reporting on average depth and width of mailing list threads? I do believe that these kind of insights will help monitoring project health and investigate where projects can improve regarding community building. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services

Re: ASF Status website and project health reporting

2014-10-08 Thread Pierre Smits
of information to project communities, the board and everybody else interested. And how this should be approached project wise, as I suspect that a lot of skills and expertise is involved. Regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing

Re: ApacheBookStore.com

2014-10-10 Thread Pierre Smits
Rich, Why not consider the eCommerce solution of the Apache OFBiz project as a replacement for the wiki page? Regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Mon, Oct

Re: Cordava 3.6.3 Bug

2014-10-12 Thread Pierre Smits
@community.apache.org) is intended to discuss the development of the communities of the projects under the umbrella of the Apache Software Foundation. It doesn't involve the development of the works of the Apache projects. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions

Re: Fwd: The ASF and Apache OFBiz (was: Re: ASF Status website and project health reporting)

2014-10-13 Thread Pierre Smits
@brane Every tool has its limitations... ;-) I can do an (off-site) demo at the ApacheCon EU 2014 for those interested. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http

Re: ApacheBookStore.com

2014-10-13 Thread Pierre Smits
up to date than it is today. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 13

Re: ApacheBookStore.com

2014-10-14 Thread Pierre Smits
With everything you have, of course, to consider whether the joy is worth the price. Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Rich Bowen rbo

Re: The ASF and Apache OFBiz (was: Re: ASF Status website and project health reporting)

2014-10-15 Thread Pierre Smits
Ross, As far as I can tell, only Rich has contacted the community of the OFBiz project regarding management of fundraising activities. I assume you that is what you meant, not contracted. Regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based

Re: The ASF and Apache OFBiz (was: Re: ASF Status website and project health reporting)

2014-10-16 Thread Pierre Smits
that could also have been answered by other members of the community. In fact, I sent a follow-up email to him yesterday and plan to give him a ring in a day or two if I do not receive a response (I don't want to put too much pressure on him! ;) ). HTH,~M Regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM

Re: Fwd: The ASF and Apache OFBiz (was: Re: ASF Status website and project health reporting)

2014-10-16 Thread Pierre Smits
HI Branco, All, For your convenience I have made the presentation also available to get an idea. It can be found here: http://www.slideshare.net/pierresmits/ofbiz-4-the-asf Should you have any questions and/or remarks, feel free to post them here. Regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http

Fwd: ApacheCon US 2015 and change of CFP

2014-11-22 Thread Pierre Smits
Reposting in community development. I guess I took a wrong turn earlier. -- Forwarded message -- From: Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 2:24 PM Subject: ApacheCon US 2015 and change of CFP To: apachecon-disc...@apache.org apachecon-disc...@apache.org

Re: ApacheCon track descriptions

2014-12-14 Thread Pierre Smits
Jan, I noticed the ps in your reaction to the posting of Sharan. Is there something specific you're hinting towards, that you can't find in the project's web pages? Can you elaborate on your ps. Regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based

Why the Apachecon (was Re: ApacheCon NA CFP closed)

2015-02-04 Thread Pierre Smits
regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: There is nothing stopping

Re: Why the Apachecon (was Re: ApacheCon NA CFP closed)

2015-02-04 Thread Pierre Smits
. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote: On 02/04/2015 03:42 AM, Pierre Smits wrote

Re: ApacheCon NA CFP closed

2015-02-02 Thread Pierre Smits
Sharan and I will go over the talks in the OFBiz track the coming few days, and will get back to everybody with the result. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http

Re: FOSDEM 2016

2015-02-04 Thread Pierre Smits
Noted! Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:02 PM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: On Wednesday, February 4, 2015, Pierre Smits pierre.sm

Re: FOSDEM 2016

2015-02-04 Thread Pierre Smits
Had I known upfront it was held in Brussels and the last few days (yes, I had to look it up), I would have popped over as it is only an hour's drive away. Where will the next be held and when? Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based

Re: FOSDEM 2016

2015-02-04 Thread Pierre Smits
from? Share your input at: http://markmail.org/message/rwk6nh2i6lavianm Best regards: Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Rich Bowen rbo

Re: ApacheCon NA CFP closed

2015-02-04 Thread Pierre Smits
That might be an idea to explore But remember, you need to investigate the potential before you can allocate square meters. And auctioning only works when demand is higher than supply. There are always capacity limits. Best regards Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services

Re: projects.apache.org overhaul proposal

2015-01-14 Thread Pierre Smits
the INFRA office. The same could be worked out for the other solutions and/or services it needs to have in place. You just need to ask the right questions to the right people. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing

Re: projects.apache.org overhaul proposal

2015-01-15 Thread Pierre Smits
To put that last sentence in a more positive manner: The future looks bright and is multi-coloured! But it is shrouded in layers of mists. Unfortunately, so is the future influx of funds. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based

Re: projects.apache.org overhaul proposal

2015-01-15 Thread Pierre Smits
will be the same or even increase equally with the increase of needs/wants and pleasures of offices and projects and inherently the cost associated to all that. And then we can make the proper decisions. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based

Re: projects.apache.org overhaul proposal

2015-01-14 Thread Pierre Smits
languages) I surmise an ASF Azure box can suffice. If concessions regarding data storage are acceptable (integrated derby in stead of external RDBMS) for such a PoC.. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional

Re: projects.apache.org overhaul proposal

2015-01-14 Thread Pierre Smits
Indeed, an integrated approach and subsequent solution could help in delivering information in a unified way and reduce resource consumption. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade

Re: projects.apache.org overhaul proposal

2015-01-14 Thread Pierre Smits
shouldn't turn JIRA into a discussion/voting tool when email works out really well. No need to reinvent the wheel. This is not about reinventing the wheel. More about which wheel to use. Both have advantages and disadvantages. With regards, Daniel. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM

Re: projects.apache.org overhaul proposal

2015-01-15 Thread Pierre Smits
See inline. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:42 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: I was probing the notion

Re: projects.apache.org overhaul proposal

2015-01-14 Thread Pierre Smits
Though it might appear that my contributions in this thread visavis the OFBiz aspect may look like adversity towards deployment on comdev svn so the comdev community can work on it, I am +1 Regards Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based

Re: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far

2015-02-12 Thread Pierre Smits
On 2015-02-11 12:06, Pierre Smits wrote: Hi Ulrich, Don't know whether your call for action was also sent to PMC Members of the projects (via private@), but there is interest in Apache Directory and Apache OpenMeetings. For Apache Directory interest, have a look at: http

Re: ApacheCon Schedule

2015-02-19 Thread Pierre Smits
Jan, Rich, Where can I access the schedule to check? Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Apache Commons grants write access to all ASF committers

2015-01-12 Thread Pierre Smits
Congratulations. This openness in its truest form. Regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Otávio Gonçalves de Santana

Re: projects.apache.org overhaul proposal

2015-01-14 Thread Pierre Smits
: http://www.slideshare.net/pierresmits/ofbiz-4-the-asf Such screens as are proposed by Daniel could be integrated. With regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com/* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com

Re: projects.apache.org overhaul proposal

2015-01-14 Thread Pierre Smits
, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote: On 01/14/2015 06:48 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: Hi folks, I

Re: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far

2015-02-11 Thread Pierre Smits
OpenMeetings interest, have a look at: http://markmail.org/message/e23ishui3rt7hhsg Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Ulrich

Re: Veto! Veto?

2015-03-22 Thread Pierre Smits
? That would surely bring clarity. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Sun

Re: commit rights to ComDev non-community.a.o site resources

2015-03-15 Thread Pierre Smits
Why not register the solution as a component of the COMDEV project in JIRA, and do the same as any other ASF project does when it comes to code: register and evaluate issues, have patches registered there and have invited committers work from there. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http

Re: commit rights to ComDev non-community.a.o site resources

2015-03-16 Thread Pierre Smits
+ 1 Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 9:39 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr wrote: +1 (non-binding) Regards, Hervé

Re: work with you

2015-03-19 Thread Pierre Smits
Please remember that communicating a 2-way street. Obliging the other party to comply doesn't help collaboration. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com

Re: Veto! Veto?

2015-03-21 Thread Pierre Smits
Majority voting, regarding on and offboarding of people, is less subject of abuse - when it comes to get to a resolution - than the veto mechanism. Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http

Re: Veto! Veto?

2015-03-21 Thread Pierre Smits
trust that the board has ample means to take appropriate actions. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Mike Kienenberger mkien

Re: Veto! Veto?

2015-03-21 Thread Pierre Smits
. Best regards Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 5:24 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: Consensus Approval works great until you have

Re: Veto! Veto?

2015-03-21 Thread Pierre Smits
? Vetoing people isn't a community builder. It doesn't help when it comes to collaborating. It doesn't help when it comes to diversifying the community. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail

Re: Why are committers accounts never terminated?

2015-03-12 Thread Pierre Smits
back (or not) is up to the PMC of a project to decide. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Jake Farrell jfarr...@apache.org

Re: Veto! Veto?

2015-03-24 Thread Pierre Smits
that works socially is if everyone currently on the PMC agrees that person is a peer. ... Cheers, -g -- Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com

Re: Veto! Veto?

2015-03-24 Thread Pierre Smits
No worries. Just helping to get to the clearest ASF message. :-) Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz

Veto! Veto?

2015-03-24 Thread Pierre Smits
You can't coerce consensus regarding procedural issues by saying: 'do it my way or I veto!' Soon everybody will: veto. Veto. Veto! VETO. VETO!! Even vetoing a vote is not generating consensus. -- Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based

Re: Veto! Veto?

2015-03-24 Thread Pierre Smits
D**n. Type-ahead If it weren't all that difficult and important to do the righteous thing, we wouldn't have all the 'voting' aspects defined in our by-laws, and we could run the ASF as one of its projects. Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based

Re: Veto! Veto?

2015-03-23 Thread Pierre Smits
An opinion poll is not the same as voting on a procedural issue. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Pierre Smits

Re: Veto! Veto?

2015-03-24 Thread Pierre Smits
If it weren't all that difficult and imported to do the righteous thing, we wouldn't have all the 'voting' aspects defined in our by-laws, and we could run the ASF as one of its projects. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based

Re: Veto! Veto?

2015-03-23 Thread Pierre Smits
to people - we veto promotors/speakers/book writers to participate in our project with privileges (commit right, PMC membership)? Or, that it vetoes people from France (this is example, I have nothing against people from France or even with the French nationality)? Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM

Re: Veto! Veto?

2015-03-23 Thread Pierre Smits
When it comes to people, consensus (acceptance by unanimity) is the best thing to have. But if the ASF has as its principle that no vetoes are allowed, how can it be the remit of a project's PMC have it as its policy? Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services

Re: Veto! Veto?

2015-03-23 Thread Pierre Smits
, contributor, committer, PMC member, VP and etc) to guard that the principles of the ASF are upheld. As it is the task of the Board to police. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade

Re: Proposing tracks for ACEU15

2015-04-20 Thread Pierre Smits
will take more control on who to invite for talks CFP? We can sit back and relax? I stepped up. Again. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Mon, Apr 20

Proposing tracks for ACEU15

2015-04-20 Thread Pierre Smits
Delacrétaz - How a Code of Conduct Matters - Speaker TBD - A Case Study (PoC) of Community Management with OFBiz - Pierre Smits - Due Process with Apache STeVe - Speaker TBD - Version Control with Apache Subversion - Speaker TBD - Directory Management with Apache Directory - Speaker TBD

Re: Proposing tracks for ACEU15

2015-04-20 Thread Pierre Smits
Quoting: '*we* do not have to ask it. The LF do' But that 'we' is confusing. Who is that? You? I? The coordinator? The Board? Anyway, then 'we' can indeed sit back and relax, and wait for clarification and/or the invitation from the LF. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http

Re: Proposing tracks for ACEU15

2015-04-20 Thread Pierre Smits
Great. Thanks for clarifying. Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: We

Re: ApacheCon 2015

2015-04-16 Thread Pierre Smits
Thanks Adrian. How did it you experience the event and your session? Would love to hear from all presenters and attendees how it went down... Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail

Re: Events calendar

2015-04-10 Thread Pierre Smits
scripts, and such scripts need to evaluated and improved after the event. That way we don't make the mistakes when doing a new event like we did in the past. Most importantly, Offices need to take ownership. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud

Re: Events calendar

2015-04-10 Thread Pierre Smits
I am not convinced that communication of events (and a calendar is a communication mechanism) is part of the tasks of the ComDev office. Yes, the ComDev office can support projects on the howto. But such a mechanism should be owned by the MarPub office, and they should push. Best regards, Pierre

Incubating, Graduating Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

2015-07-04 Thread Pierre Smits
or the Apache Way? Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: Hi

Re: Incubating, Graduating Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

2015-07-04 Thread Pierre Smits
Is that just your opinion? Or something that is documented elsewhere as a part of the rules of the game for projects of the ASF? And if so, where? Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail

Incubating, Graduating Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

2015-07-04 Thread Pierre Smits
that a project's bylaws doesn't conflict with the Code of Conduct or the Apache Way? Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 12

Re: Incubating, Graduating Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

2015-07-04 Thread Pierre Smits
that don't comply can't be an Apache project until that condition is met. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 1:28 AM, Ross Gardler

Re: Incubating, Graduating Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

2015-07-06 Thread Pierre Smits
provide the insights and experience in order to avoid creating either bylaw elements that are either to vague to apply or to complex to uphold that will lead to (unnecessary and avoidable) heated discussions that hurt the project more than they do good. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http

Re: Incubating, Graduating Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

2015-07-06 Thread Pierre Smits
. It is such that makes the determination of 'doing the right thing, doing it the right way' less credible in stead of more. The show flake falling down at the top of the mountain creates the avalanche in the valley. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions

Re: Incubating, Graduating Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

2015-07-06 Thread Pierre Smits
And you can read 'determination' as well as 'perception'. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Pierre Smits pierre.sm

Re: Incubating, Graduating Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

2015-07-06 Thread Pierre Smits
Thank you, Branko. I feel (somewhat) sorry for you, when I read your statement of being disgusted by the viewpoint of others on the matter. I hope you recover from it soon. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing

Re: Incubating, Graduating Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

2015-07-06 Thread Pierre Smits
conduct their business , per project bylaws feed into the aspect of compliance to the ASF doctrine or explain when deviating on points. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http

LABS a top level project of the ASF? (Was: Re: Incubating, ....)

2015-07-06 Thread Pierre Smits
within the projects they are contributing to. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 3:10 PM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: On Monday

Re: Incubating, Graduating Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

2015-07-06 Thread Pierre Smits
Or not! Some still believe that it is 'consensus' that is required for any procedural issues and think their -1 vote vetoes a change. That applies not only to on and off-boarding of new PMC Members and committers, but also to other policy changes. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http

Re: LABS a top level project of the ASF? (Was: Re: Incubating, ....)

2015-07-06 Thread Pierre Smits
Or stopping it. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com wrote: @jani, Actually, I

Re: LABS a top level project of the ASF? (Was: Re: Incubating, ....)

2015-07-06 Thread Pierre Smits
@jani, Actually, I don't feel that need as (at least) Tim and you do. But I am sure that, you and your peers can find perfect validating reasons for having this service around (or considering it a TLP) when discussing such and more amongst yourselves. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM

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