Re: [DISCUSS] Swiz Framework Donation to Apache Flex

2013-06-01 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi, here's my +1 (I think I should state it although is clear since I was who open the vote) 2013/6/1 Carlos Rovira carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com Hi, seems like all has been said yet. I don't think we should stop the vote since as others commented two -1 votes was left in the cold with

Re: [DISCUSS] Swiz Framework Donation to Apache Flex

2013-06-01 Thread Carlos Rovira
The vote was open for more than 72 hours. I'm closing it. Here are results: +1 (binding) Erik de Bruin Greg Reddin Justin Mclean Fréderic Thomas -1 (binding) Igor Costa (no explanation) Jeff Tapper (he stated unless there are assurances that this will not be part of the main branch, but

Multidimensional States

2013-06-01 Thread jude
I've been coming across more and more cases where it would be great to have support for multidimensional states. What this looks like and how it's used I'm not sure. Maybe we can discuss ideas. Alex wrote on the FlexJS wiki page, *States were used often but had a limitation once the set of

Re: Multidimensional States

2013-06-01 Thread John Cunliffe
How is that different from the already existing stateGroupshttp://help.adobe.com/en_US/flex/using/WS2db454920e96a9e51e63e3d11c0bf63611-7ffa.htmlproperty? On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 12:28 PM, jude flexcapaci...@gmail.com wrote: I've been coming across more and more cases where it would be great to

Re: Multidimensional States

2013-06-01 Thread Jonathan Campos
Usually I solve this by just overriding the getCurrentState method and a having all the posible options in the states group. J On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 6:41 AM, John Cunliffe mahn...@gmail.com wrote: How is that different from the already existing stateGroups

Re: Multidimensional States

2013-06-01 Thread Maxime Cowez
When I find myself pondering such a situation, I usually come to the conclusion it's time to split up my component into smaller ones: most of the times it's a signal that there's too much going in one view and I'm breaking separation of concerns. Of course that's not true for *every* situation,

Re: [DISCUSS] Swiz Framework Donation to Apache Flex

2013-06-01 Thread Erik de Bruin
I think this is a valid vote and there is no need to declare it invalid. There is only one definite, binding -1 (Igor) and he declined to explain his motivation, something that is customary when casting a negative vote. Once Chris Scott 'officially' donates Swiz - there are some hoops he has to

Re: [DISCUSS] Swiz Framework Donation to Apache Flex

2013-06-01 Thread Igor Costa
A year back, someone at Flex Brazil group asked me why we couldn't simple have a MVC approach into the SDK. My short answer was We prefer you decide which way you want to code, rather than force you on our perspective way. For mature and freedom of choice we should not have such only a way of

Re: [DISCUSS] Swiz Framework Donation to Apache Flex

2013-06-01 Thread Erik de Bruin
The way we voted to include Swiz will be applied to any other framework if/when those are donated as well. The fact that Swiz gets a home at Apache Flex doesn't mean it will be endorsed as the one and only option. People get to chose what they want to use - the SDK isn't and won't be tied to any

Re: [DISCUSS] Swiz Framework Donation to Apache Flex

2013-06-01 Thread Carlos Rovira
Ok Erik, I see it ok as well. As you said there's only one -1 binding vote (Igor Costa) and one -1 non binding vote (Carlos Velasco), and it was already explained the motivations behind the donation and the intention to maintain swiz out of main flex-sdk cycle and not promote it as the preferred

Re: [DISCUSS] Swiz Framework Donation to Apache Flex

2013-06-01 Thread Sumudu Chinthaka
really looking forward about this, i have being missing swiz for mobile app development lot so once the donation took place hope there will be new development towards swiz mobile application support Thanks Sumudu On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Carlos Rovira carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com

Re: [DISCUSS] Swiz Framework Donation to Apache Flex

2013-06-01 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
I am sorry, but I voted a -1 binding as well and my concerns have not been addressed. If we are going to go ahead, can we at least bring it into a contrib folder and make at least one release out of it before promoting it to a main repo? Thanks, Om On Jun 1, 2013 10:07 AM, Carlos Rovira

Re: [DISCUSS] Swiz Framework Donation to Apache Flex

2013-06-01 Thread Erik de Bruin
You hid your vote well... you did +1 and -1 in two short sentences. Re-reading helped a bit, but - at least for non-native speakers - it was very ambivalent. I think most of your concerns have been addressed in one way or another, or will (must) be addressed during the coming process of donation.

Re: [DISCUSS] Swiz Framework Donation to Apache Flex

2013-06-01 Thread Carlos Rovira
Sorry Om, your mail was confusing since it had -1 and +1 votes in the same mail, so the external lecture was that it was only an opinion and want to express something but not state a final vote. Regarding the contrib folder, I'm not a supporter of this idea in the Swiz case, since in my case we

Re: [DISCUSS] Swiz Framework Donation to Apache Flex

2013-06-01 Thread dude
So Parsley could find a new home here as well? Am 01.06.2013 18:54, schrieb Erik de Bruin: The way we voted to include Swiz will be applied to any other framework if/when those are donated as well. The fact that Swiz gets a home at Apache Flex doesn't mean it will be endorsed as the one and

Re: [DISCUSS] Swiz Framework Donation to Apache Flex

2013-06-01 Thread Erik de Bruin
It certainly could, in my opinion. I think these frameworks enhance Flex and therefor enhance the Apache Flex project. I think there is synergy to be had, both for 'users' and contributors. EdB On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 7:43 PM, dude d...@atheist.com wrote: So Parsley could find a new home here

Re: [DISCUSS] Swiz Framework Donation to Apache Flex

2013-06-01 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
My bad for not voting clearly. If you two are confident that we can make a release of Swiz in a reasonable timeframe, I am cool with it. It would bode well for us if we make a blog post making it clear that we support all other frameworks as well. Can someone come up with such a post and put it

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-33052) Runtime error when using a chart in a module in an app that is also using charts

2013-06-01 Thread Jan Durian (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33052?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13672200#comment-13672200 ] Jan Durian commented on FLEX-33052: --- I mean, this one is still actual. Copying styles

Re: [DISCUSS] Swiz Framework Donation to Apache Flex

2013-06-01 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi Om, I can make the blog post, but we should wait until Chris Scott write the email with his intention of donation. Then we can make the official blog post to make the announcement to the world. And we will put special wording in make clear that this donation should not be seen as giving any

Re: [DISCUSS] Swiz Framework Donation to Apache Flex

2013-06-01 Thread Carlos Rovira
Right! why not? :) I don't know too much about parsely but seems it's in the same state that Swiz. If AOP efforts progress all frameworks like swiz and parsley could benefit from the hooks in the compiler to implement it and will need people behind it to make this evolution. I think the only

Re: [DISCUSS] Swiz Framework Donation to Apache Flex

2013-06-01 Thread dude
What steps are required from the author to make the donation? Since he has moved on to other things, I'd like to bother him as less as possible. Parsley3/Spicelib3 are release under Apache License 2.0. The framework consists of several libraries which can be found here

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-33052) Runtime error when using a chart in a module in an app that is also using charts

2013-06-01 Thread Justin Mclean (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33052?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13672288#comment-13672288 ] Justin Mclean commented on FLEX-33052: -- Can you supply a simple project that

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-33547) Fix any JIRA bugs we want to see in this release

2013-06-01 Thread Justin Mclean (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33547?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13672294#comment-13672294 ] Justin Mclean commented on FLEX-33547: -- Perhaps also FLEX-33052

Re: [DISCUSS] Swiz Framework Donation to Apache Flex

2013-06-01 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, What steps are required from the author to make the donation? Having them mailing the mailing list would probably be enough. A vote would also need to be taken but I don't see any major reason why we would allow one framework and not the other. Parsley3/Spicelib3 are release under

Re: [VOTE] Let's move JIRA emails to a new list

2013-06-01 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Alex, since that was the controversial part of the proposal, perhaps it is better to have a separate vote for it. No need for a vote IMO. Committers can unsubscribe just like they can unsubscribe to the dev list. Although I'd hope that all committer would stay subscribed to both lists

Re: [VOTE] Let's move JIRA emails to a new list

2013-06-01 Thread Alex Harui
On 6/1/13 7:58 PM, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com wrote: Hi, Alex, since that was the controversial part of the proposal, perhaps it is better to have a separate vote for it. No need for a vote IMO. Committers can unsubscribe just like they can unsubscribe to the dev list. Although

Re: [DISCUSS] Swiz Framework Donation to Apache Flex

2013-06-01 Thread Alex Harui
On 6/1/13 7:54 PM, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com wrote: Hi, What steps are required from the author to make the donation? Having them mailing the mailing list would probably be enough. A vote would also need to be taken but I don't see any major reason why we would allow one

Build failed in Jenkins: flex-sdk_mustella #120

2013-06-01 Thread flex . mustella
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