, 2013 11:43 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: TLF Issue (was Re: SVN to Git migration in progress)
BTW, are these separate repos as far as Git is concerned or something
else?)
Humm..Can you reformulate that pls ? :P
The only way I see if we don't want to use links is to use submodules
Arff, bad luck, it acts as submodule.
-Message d'origine-
From: Frédéric THOMAS
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 9:25 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: TLF Issue (was Re: SVN to Git migration in progress)
I maybe found another way to integrate TLF sub directories as part of
flex
...@adobe.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 1:00 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: TLF Issue (was Re: SVN to Git migration in progress)
Well, I'm still learning about Git, but it looks like we have to resolve the
TLF svn:externals issue and it isn't clear that links in the file system are
going
Did you use the fsutil hardlink create NewFilename ExistingFilename ?
-Mark
-Original Message-
From: Frédéric THOMAS [mailto:webdoubl...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 6:01 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: TLF Issue (was Re: SVN to Git migration in progress)
yep
/howto/16226/complete-guide-to-symbolic-links-symlinks-on-windows-or-linux/
-Message d'origine-
From: Kessler CTR Mark J
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:20 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: RE: TLF Issue (was Re: SVN to Git migration in progress)
Did you use the fsutil hardlink create
Erik,
Here's an example of how a git workflow can look like:
http://nvie.com/posts/a-successful-git-branching-model/
While this is not necessarily the branching model that the Apache Flex
project will use, it should give you a better idea on how git works.
Also note that unless you see a git push
Yennick,
Thank you! I was already aware of that workflow. In fact, it IS the
branching model Apache Flex will be using. It was voted in as the
preferred way to work with git after the switch from SVN.
EdB
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Yennick Trevels
yennick.trev...@gmail.com wrote:
Erik,
Some more links for reference.
The link to the [VOTE] email on using git and branching model:
http://markmail.org/message/2kklqltsdo4643lv
And the link to the [RESULT][VOTE] email:
http://markmail.org/message/ajlskznzec4wqda2
EdB
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Erik de Bruin
?
-Fred
-Message d'origine-
From: Alex Harui
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 8:11 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: TLF Issue (was Re: SVN to Git migration in progress)
I think we don't want to use hard-links. And if submodules won't work, then
I think it is time to figure out how
to the central repo :-)
Von: Gordon Smith [gosm...@adobe.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. März 2013 18:32
An: dev@flex.apache.org
Betreff: RE: SVN to Git migration in progress
What happens here is that you commit to a publically accessible repository
Huh? Does that mean we're back to square one with the migration?
Yep :P
-Fred
-Message d'origine-
From: Harbs
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 2:15 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
Huh? Does that mean we're back to square one
person with commit
rights to the central repo :-)
Von: Gordon Smith [gosm...@adobe.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. März 2013 18:32
An: dev@flex.apache.org
Betreff: RE: SVN to Git migration in progress
What happens here is that you commit to a publically
with commit
rights to the central repo :-)
Von: Gordon Smith [gosm...@adobe.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. März 2013 18:32
An: dev@flex.apache.org
Betreff: RE: SVN to Git migration in progress
What happens here is that you commit to a publically accessible
:-)
Von: Gordon Smith [gosm...@adobe.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. März 2013 18:32
An: dev@flex.apache.org
Betreff: RE: SVN to Git migration in progress
What happens here is that you commit to a publically accessible
repository clone on GitHub that only you can commit to and then issue a
Pull
@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
Before I totally freak out, please explain to me what just happened?
Why did INFRA abort the migration?
EdB
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Frédéric THOMAS
webdoubl...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi Erik,
Yes, we're going to do the all process again
:-)
Von: Gordon Smith [gosm...@adobe.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. März 2013 18:32
An: dev@flex.apache.org
Betreff: RE: SVN to Git migration in progress
What happens here is that you commit to a publically accessible
repository clone on GitHub that only you can commit
DO ANYTHING (learn git in between or watch kitten video).
-Fred
-Message d'origine-
From: Erik de Bruin
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 2:42 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
Well, shouldn't there have been some kind of discussion first, before
@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
Well, shouldn't there have been some kind of discussion first, before
such a drastic step as this is taken?
We just learned from Bertrand that there are no Dictators in
Apache.org, but the way INFRA is behaving, it seems like he was wrong
-Message d'origine-
From: Erik de Bruin
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 3:03 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
I HAVE been learning git. I have been migrating from SVN to git and
while ranting on the list I've been learning on the job. I have git
all
, 2013 3:03 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
I HAVE been learning git. I have been migrating from SVN to git and
while ranting on the list I've been learning on the job. I have git
all set up and running and all the Falcon projects are 'checked out',
set
Will we still get commit emails?
EdB
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Carlos Rovira
carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com wrote:
Hi,
David migrate almost everything :)
* Website will continue in SVN (as we already known)
* If we want Whiteboards, we can ask for migration too or make it live
He alert us that he will make the SVN repository read-only in the process,
so take this into account.
This has me very scared: I have a very large commit lined up for
FalconJx (FlexJS integration) that I won't have ready for another
couple of days. I have no experience with Git whatsoever. How
Hi,
This has me very scared: I have a very large commit lined up for
FalconJx (FlexJS integration) that I won't have ready for another
couple of days. I have no experience with Git whatsoever. How can we
prevent my contribution from being lost if I can't commit it to SVN?
Create a patch and
Hi,
Will we still get commit emails?
I assume so - currently it's ready only so we can't test a commit.
Justin
Hi,
It is mentioned the witheboards are moved on demand but mine is already
readOnly :P
-Fred
-Message d'origine-
From: Erik de Bruin
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 7:30 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
He alert us that he will make the SVN
HI,
It is mentioned the witheboards are moved on demand but mine is already
readOnly :P
I think all of SVN is currently read only. I'd also assume that it all
whiteboards in GIt or SVN not each persons choice.
Justin
Yes, I just read it again, I need to read at least twice in English to get
almost everything :P
Thanks Justin,
-Fred
-Message d'origine-
From: Justin Mclean
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 7:56 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
HI
Hi,
Look like flex SDK has an issue with the TLF link - not sure how to fix this.
/Users/justinmclean/Documents/ApacheFlexDevelopGit/frameworks/projects/textLayout/compile-config.xml(58):
Error: unable to open
On Mar 11, 2013 11:31 PM, Erik de Bruin e...@ixsoftware.nl wrote:
He alert us that he will make the SVN repository read-only in the
process,
so take this into account.
This has me very scared: I have a very large commit lined up for
FalconJx (FlexJS integration) that I won't have ready for
Hi Erik,
We're almost all at the same point, we're in the middle of a release :P
Patience !
-Fred
-Message d'origine-
From: Erik de Bruin
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 7:58 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
I am not pleased at all
Hi,
What about a couple of days heads up, or even a vote on WHEN this
will take place?
Vote was 6 month ago but we held off doing it until we became a top level
project. We ask infra about a month ago to look at it again and they decide to
do it now. Given how long we've been waiting for this
I think it would of caused some issues no matter when it happened.
Some, yes, but not on this scale. Turns out my contribution is now
in limbo until I can rearrange my workflow to allow for git and I
actually learn git. Which means I now need to spend extra resources on
something that was close
HI,
Look like flex SDK has an issue with the TLF link - not sure how to fix this.
/Users/justinmclean/Documents/ApacheFlexDevelopGit/frameworks/projects/textLayout/compile-config.xml(58):
Error: unable to open
, 2013 8:04 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
Hi,
What about a couple of days heads up, or even a vote on WHEN this
will take place?
Vote was 6 month ago but we held off doing it until we became a top level
project. We ask infra about a month ago
-
From: Justin Mclean
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 8:48 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
HI,
Look like flex SDK has an issue with the TLF link - not sure how to fix
this.
/Users/justinmclean/Documents/ApacheFlexDevelopGit/frameworks/projects/textLayout
Hey, textLayout is converted to git too, so a git submodule init and then
git submodule update should do the trick, non ?
-Fred
-Message d'origine-
From: Frédéric THOMAS
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 9:01 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
Hi,
Hey, textLayout is converted to git too, so a git submodule init and then git
submodule update should do the trick, non ?
No because we need a subdirectory of the textLayout git repo.
Justin
it has been done...
-Fred
-Message d'origine- From: Justin Mclean
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 9:11 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
Hi,
Hey, textLayout is converted to git too, so a git submodule init and then
git submodule update should do
@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
I'm currently cloning the repo to see how it has been done...
-Fred
-Message d'origine-
From: Justin Mclean
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 9:11 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
Hi,
Hey
: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 9:40 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
Just trying to understand what just happened:
https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/flex-sdk.git
Does that contain a copy of 'trunk' or of 'branches/develop'?
EdB
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9
Hi,
https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/flex-sdk.git
Does that contain a copy of 'trunk' or of 'branches/develop'?
If you check it out you will get trunk (or rather master). To check out do a
git checkout https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/flex-sdk.git
To switch to develop you need
Hi,
I did a 'git clone' and 'build.properties' shows:
# flex-sdk-description values
release = Apache Flex 4.9.1
release.version = 4.9.1
That's the trunk. A git clone will get trunk or master by default if you
just pass it the git repo URL.
While the develop branch in SVN has:
#
Hi,
Also, shouldn't this be in the Wiki?
Yep. Someone was working on it - no idea how far they got or where it is on the
wiki.
IMO the vote was taken without thought to what the real implication may be, but
that's the community wanted. I call on all of the committers who voted +1 to
step
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/Git+Guide
I'd say not all relevant practical is there... it's more like a brief
RTFM and figure it out yourself entry.
An urgent +1 on making this a proper HOWTO.
EdB
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Justin Mclean
jus...@classsoftware.com
Unfortunaly, I haven't the rights, the repo is read only.
-Fred
-Message d'origine-
From: Frédéric THOMAS
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 10:46 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
Well, I prefer a git clone to be able to quickly switch branch.
I
I'm just about to, I move my repo first, set my env files, build and keep yo
in touch
-Message d'origine-
From: Justin Mclean
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 10:55 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
Hi,
I localy have been able to add tlf
I just tried to build the SDK ('develop' branch) in preparation to
building Falcon and FalconJx (to get some work done on the whole
patch thing I apparently have to do now) and also got the TLF
manifest error...
Nobody tried to build the SDK from a git SVN clone before voting +1 on
the move?
It gonna a take some time as I do it regulary with ant thirdparty-downloads
before
-Message d'origine-
From: Justin Mclean
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 10:55 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
Hi,
I localy have been able to add tlf as submodule
Note: It's the past but I wasn't for git, I proposed sub-git which is a
tools that allows to work either with git and svn
-Message d'origine-
From: Erik de Bruin
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 10:58 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
I just tried
Subject: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
Hi,
I just tried to build the SDK ('develop' branch) in preparation to
building Falcon and FalconJx (to get some work done on the whole
patch thing I apparently have to do now) and also got the TLF
manifest error...
You can check out the TLF
I second that, I just successfully built the SDK as well, using
Justin's workaround for the TLF issue.
EdB
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Justin Mclean
jus...@classsoftware.com wrote:
Hi,
Well the good news is other than the flex-sdk git repo compiles a usable SDK
if you work around
Still that :)
I guess on windows I should find a way to to a hard link, right ?
-Fred
-Message d'origine-
From: Justin Mclean
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 11:26 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
Hi,
Well the good news is other than the flex
, 2013 9:40 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
Just trying to understand what just happened:
https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/flex-sdk.git
Does that contain a copy of 'trunk' or of 'branches/develop'?
EdB
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013
@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
Just trying to understand what just happened:
https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/flex-sdk.git
Does that contain a copy of 'trunk' or of 'branches/develop'?
EdB
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Frédéric THOMAS
- From: Erik de Bruin
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 9:40 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
Just trying to understand what just happened:
https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/flex-sdk.git
Does that contain a copy of 'trunk
: SVN to Git migration in progress
Hi,
Well the good news is other than the flex-sdk git repo compiles a usable SDK
if you work around the TLF issue.
Justin
: Erik de Bruin
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 9:40 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
Just trying to understand what just happened:
https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/flex-sdk.git
Does that contain a copy of 'trunk' or of 'branches/develop
It seems to me that all it does is add an extra layer
Yes indeed. And that's a good thing, because it allows you to commit
often and very granularly.
I read that you were preparing everything for a committing one big
change to Subversion.
The Git workflow is a bit different.
In Git you would:
Erik,
What advantage is having a local repo to having a local working copy?
It seems to me that all it does is add an extra layer between me and my
co-contributors. I need to 'commit' to my local repo and then 'push' to get it
out to the world, where before only a 'commit' was needed...
It
Hi,
What advantage is having a local repo to having a local working copy?
Also means you can commit when you don't have an internet connection.
Justin
HI,
What advantage is having a local repo to having a local working copy?
Means you can commit a lot more often in small bite size chunks locally. Makes
it easier to revert minor changes locally for one. As the cost of branching and
committing is less in Git than SVN (it's local) you can do it
-
From: Justin Mclean
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 11:26 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
Hi,
Well the good news is other than the flex-sdk git repo compiles a usable SDK
if you work around the TLF issue.
Justin
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Chris
Von: Erik de Bruin [e...@ixsoftware.nl]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. März 2013 13:08
An: dev@flex.apache.org
Betreff: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
What advantage is having a local repo to having a local working copy?
It seems to me that all
branch into the 'dev' branch Within one of the three repos?
Between one repo and another? Which ones?
- Gordon
-Original Message-
From: RIAstar [mailto:max...@riastar.net]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 5:52 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: SVN to Git migration in progress
It seems
I still don't see what problem this fixes. And having to work with
something thats sucks for weeks while you're knee deep into a
release/contribution is causing problems that weren't there. And more
importantly: I don't see what this does for the project that needed to
be done so desperately that
: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 6:00 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: TLF Issue (was Re: SVN to Git migration in progress)
Well, I'm still learning about Git, but it looks like we have to resolve the
TLF svn:externals issue and it isn't clear that links in the file system are
going to work on Windows
And more importantly: I don't see what this does for the project that
needed to
be done so desperately that we couldn't get a couple of days advance
warning so we could at least commit our outstanding changes and finish
the release(s) that were in progress?
Who is this question directed
Om,
Those emails hardly give a reliable time table...
One of the reasons this sudden move frustrates me so endlessly is that
I literally was ready to commit the FlexJS in FalconJx code this
morning and move on to actual payed work. Instead I ended up spending
my day trying to figure out git (and
On 3/12/13 11:11 AM, Erik de Bruin e...@ixsoftware.nl wrote:
I still don't see what problem this fixes. And having to work with
something thats sucks for weeks while you're knee deep into a
release/contribution is causing problems that weren't there. And more
importantly: I don't see what
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Erik de Bruin e...@ixsoftware.nl wrote:
Om,
Those emails hardly give a reliable time table...
One of the reasons this sudden move frustrates me so endlessly is that
I literally was ready to commit the FlexJS in FalconJx code this
morning and move on to
, but it's one
thing in more to do to setup the SDK that has to be explain in the readme.
-Fred
-Message d'origine-
From: Alex Harui
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 6:00 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: TLF Issue (was Re: SVN to Git migration in progress)
Well, I'm still learning
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Erik de Bruin e...@ixsoftware.nl wrote:
It does make me feel a little better, all this ranting.
And bite the bullet and move on is only possible if the people that
actually know git actively help out the many active contributors that
are complete newbies at
12, 2013 6:00 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: TLF Issue (was Re: SVN to Git migration in progress)
Well, I'm still learning about Git, but it looks like we have to resolve the
TLF svn:externals issue and it isn't clear that links in the file system are
going to work on Windows
Thank you, I needed kittens!
EdB
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Om bigosma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Erik de Bruin e...@ixsoftware.nl wrote:
It does make me feel a little better, all this ranting.
And bite the bullet and move on is only possible if the people
On 3/12/13 12:26 PM, Harbs harbs.li...@gmail.com wrote:
Why is TLF a separate repro at all? Why isn't it just part of the sdk repro?
Might be possible, but TLF came late and had its own set of branches and no
SVN history so we kept it external.
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems,
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:
On 3/12/13 12:26 PM, Harbs harbs.li...@gmail.com wrote:
Why is TLF a separate repro at all? Why isn't it just part of the sdk
repro?
Might be possible, but TLF came late and had its own set of branches and no
SVN
Hi,
I think we should just copy the TLF project into the appropriate directory
path under the sdk. I dont see any value keeping it as separate top level
project.
-1 to this the FLEX SDK uses a subdirectory of TLF not the root.
Justin
On 3/12/13 1:03 PM, Om bigosma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:
On 3/12/13 12:26 PM, Harbs harbs.li...@gmail.com wrote:
Why is TLF a separate repro at all? Why isn't it just part of the sdk
repro?
Might be possible, but
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:
On 3/12/13 1:03 PM, Om bigosma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:
On 3/12/13 12:26 PM, Harbs harbs.li...@gmail.com wrote:
Why is TLF a separate repro at
Eventually, there will need to be a comparable text engine for JS. Having a
single interface for Flash TLF and Javascript TLF could be valuable.
On Mar 12, 2013, at 10:33 PM, Om wrote:
TLF has no Flex SDK dependencies so it is probably best kept separate and
available for those not using
Hi,
David migrate almost everything :)
* Website will continue in SVN (as we already known)
* If we want Whiteboards, we can ask for migration too or make it live
along with site in SVN.
As I'm not a fan of whiteboards, maybe others could say if they want in Git
or not. I will prefer to live in
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