FW: joining the big team is a privilage

2006-10-03 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Forwarded from Incubator. -Original Message- From: RATHANASALAM RADHIKA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 2:12 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: joining the big team is a privilage hi this is radhika i like to join the project of j2ee which i can

RE: Forming an ActiveMQ PPMC

2006-08-16 Thread Noel J. Bergman
James Strachan wrote: Brian McCallister wrote: The ActiveMQ committers have decided to aim for TLP status (1) OK we need to get a PPMC in place. Thus far we have been working under a committer votes all count style FWIW we've had a PPMC in place for some time ;) As James notes, you've

FW: open-source Geronimo project from Apache.

2006-07-22 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Forwarded ... please follow up. --- Noel -Original Message- From: Senthil Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 18:32 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: open-source Geronimo project from Apache. Hi, I am S.Senthil Kumar from India and have around

FW: Apache Geronimo

2006-07-03 Thread Noel J. Bergman
-Original Message-From: milan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 0:42To: general@incubator.apache.orgSubject: Apache Geronimo My name is Milan Shrestha .Am am an IT Engineeer . I have about one year experience working in java. I have heard the project proposed

RE: Maven Repo Woes - Temporary resolution in place

2006-06-06 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Joshua Slive wrote: So you not only have your build process tied to apache infrastructure in a non-scalable way Is this the issue with Maven not handling redirects, or something else? but you are essentially doing a DoS attack against the infrastructure every time you build. Great. Is

RE: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator

2006-03-15 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Personally, I believe that ActiveMQ ought to be a TLP. Just to be clear, though, that's just a personal opinion Which part of Personally, I believe wasn't clear? ;-) What makes a project with multiple codebases an umbrella is a gray area. I've posted *my* first

RE: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator

2006-03-15 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Dain Sundstrom wrote: Our goal when starting the incubation process of ActiveMQ, OpenEJB, ServiceMix, WADI, and XBean, was to consolidate the Geronimo community. Consolidating the community is a good thing. I've long wanted to see a number of those projects at the ASF. The vision was to

RE: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator

2006-03-15 Thread Noel J. Bergman
James Strachan wrote: What other issues are there? A number of infrastucture issues. Votes from the Incubator PMC and Geronimo PMC. To do that responsibly, I'd say that we would want to see communities having demonstrated that they understand how to practice as an ASF community. Such things

RE: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator

2006-03-15 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Henri Yandell wrote: Justin Erenkrantz wrote: The APR spin-off from HTTP Server was probably the first federation (although it wasn't called that). HTTP Server depends upon APR and they have a large committer and PMCer overlap (but not total), but from the Foundation/Board's

RE: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator

2006-03-15 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Alan D. Cabrera wrote: I only see infrastructure issues in your list of concerns that would prevent the graduation of ActiveMQ. Look again, but also at comments from Dims, Henri and others. You express an opinion that it should be a TLP but mention that it has a long way to go before it's

RE: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator

2006-03-15 Thread Noel J. Bergman
David Blevins wrote: Lots of good stuff, thanks. :-) If you ask me what my opinion on OpenEJB's future or James' opinion on ActiveMQ's future, we'll both probably tell you TLP is a good goal eventually. We've more or less been running as TLPs in relation to Geronimo for the past two plus

RE: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator

2006-03-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: On the community side, we're still a bit shy of Mentors on ActiveMQ (James is the only one, and we are looking for at least 3 per project) That's not actually a formal requirement though, correct? Not at this time. We're still

RE: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator

2006-03-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: 'So close to graduation'? Whence comes that? I think that proximity is still very much up in the air, particularly given Noel's opinion that [...] Keep in mind that is *my* opinion. The Incubator PMC as a whole may or may not agree. For a guy who is seriously

RE: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator

2006-03-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
That's not actually a formal requirement though, correct? Not at this time. We're still discussing what the SHOULD and MUST will be, as I mentioned in the fuller context of what you quoted. Hmmm ... or perhaps I hadn't made it as clear as I thought I had. I just went back and found that

RE: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator

2006-03-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Dain Sundstrom wrote: When AMQ entered the incubator as a sponsored project from Geronimo, the current understanding of incubator rules was that AMQ would simply use the Geronimo pmc since the Geronimo pmc is expected to be the home for the project. Since then the incubator rules have been

RE: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator

2006-03-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Alan D. Cabrera wrote: This is not a vote, but simply a discussion about the graduation of ActiveMQ from the Incubator. And should have been on general@incubator.apache.org, not [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whether or not to cross-post to a myriad of other lists is a separate question of netiquette. And

RE: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator

2006-03-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Dain Sundstrom wrote: I agree it is important to have as much as possible on apache hardware. It was my understanding until I read this thread here, that infrastructure was fine with leaving JIRAs for imported projects hosted remotely until the JIRA had a better import tool. Please keep in

RE: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator

2006-03-13 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Alan, Others are commenting on the infrastructure issues still on the plate for ActiveMQ. And, yes, migrating out of JIRA is a PITA. Jeff is proposing that we end up running lots of JIRA instances because we have to pull in several sets of JIRA imports from atlassian, codehaus, and elsewhere.

RE: Ode Proposal (Sybase BPEL engine donation))

2006-02-15 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Sanjiva, - Given the, um, strong feelings expressed by so many people about this project, how about if we get the Incubator PMC to sponsor this poddling? Agreed. That is what I said to the Geronimo PMC, as well. The Incubator PMC will sponsor the project. --- Noel

RE: BPEL contribution from Sybase

2006-02-13 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Dain Sundstrom wrote: I think ServiceMix is the perfect home for a BPEL engine. Every JBI implementation that I am aware of has and integrated orchestration engine exposed via the BPEL specification. If every JBI implementation has an integrated orchestration engine, then we should factor

RE: [VOTE-RESULT] Yoko - A CORBA Server Sub-Project Proposal - PASSED

2006-02-08 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Alan, Please note that this is not a Geronimo sub-project. Incubator projects are just that: Incubator projects whose final destination will be determined at graduation. Amongst other issues, we want to be inviting and inclusive of whomever wants to participate, including other ASF projects.

RE: [VOTE-RESULT] Yoko - A CORBA Server Sub-Project Proposal - PASSED

2006-01-31 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Alan, Could you folks turn up some additional Mentors? We have not adopted a formal policy to require more than one --- yet --- but I'd like to see more than one. --- Noel

FW: JavaMail and JAF available as Open Source!

2005-07-27 Thread Noel J. Bergman
FYI. Do not cross-post replies. --- Noel -Original Message- From: A mailing list for discussion of the JavaMail(tm) API [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 14:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: JavaMail and JAF available as Open

Using Subversion to manage change while preserving stability.

2004-09-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Alan D. Cabrera wrote: I would like to propose a moratorium on any changes to our infrastructure or our maven architecture until we have passed the TCK. On the technical front, you can change how you are doing development, now that you are using Subversion. You can create a branch for the

CVS Lock down

2004-09-11 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Locking down CVS now ...

RE: Eve integration with Geronimo

2004-09-10 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Alan D. Cabrera wrote: Alex Karasulu is working on it. I suspect that it will be completed soon. Alex? Small matter of something called a hurricane has Alex off-line at the moment. --- Noel