Re: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines

2005-10-10 Thread anita kulshreshtha
--- J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think one needs to understand the principle of design. To look at the issue subjectively and not emotionally. Once emotions are attached then is no longer a design and more a personal issue. All I was trying to do here is to educate this community to

Re: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines

2005-10-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Oct 8, 2005, at 1:59 PM, Dain Sundstrom wrote: On Oct 8, 2005, at 8:47 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Lets cut to the root of it - Is your problem with having to work within the guidelines from the PRC, or is there some particular problem with the guidelines themselves? I'm sure that

Re: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines

2005-10-09 Thread Dain Sundstrom
On Oct 9, 2005, at 7:11 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On Oct 8, 2005, at 1:59 PM, Dain Sundstrom wrote: On Oct 8, 2005, at 8:47 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Lets cut to the root of it - Is your problem with having to work within the guidelines from the PRC, or is there some particular

Re: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines

2005-10-09 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
I see Dain's point and I think that we do need to clarify if the PRC's guidelines are suggestions or hard rules that they have been empowered by the corporation to enforce. We need to clarify this because it seems that the community really likes the contentious logo; they are aware of other's

Re: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines

2005-10-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
The PRC has made guidelines. The guidelines seem to be reasonable. You haven't objected to any specific aspect, but just the fact that there are guidelines. If you don't think they are reasonable, lets be constructive and offer feedback. I'm happy to help there. If there are questions

Re: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines

2005-10-09 Thread Matt Hogstrom
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Re: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines

2005-10-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Oct 9, 2005, at 12:54 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: I see Dain's point and I think that we do need to clarify if the PRC's guidelines are suggestions or hard rules that they have been empowered by the corporation to enforce. We need to clarify this because it seems that the community

Re: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines

2005-10-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
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Re: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines

2005-10-09 Thread Dain Sundstrom
On Oct 9, 2005, at 10:03 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On Oct 9, 2005, at 12:54 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: I see Dain's point and I think that we do need to clarify if the PRC's guidelines are suggestions or hard rules that they have been empowered by the corporation to enforce. We need

Re: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines

2005-10-09 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
On 10/9/2005 10:03 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On Oct 9, 2005, at 12:54 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: I see Dain's point and I think that we do need to clarify if the PRC's guidelines are suggestions or hard rules that they have been empowered by the corporation to enforce. We need to

Re: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines

2005-10-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Oct 9, 2005, at 1:34 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: On 10/9/2005 10:03 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On Oct 9, 2005, at 12:54 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: I see Dain's point and I think that we do need to clarify if the PRC's guidelines are suggestions or hard rules that they have been

Re: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines

2005-10-09 Thread Dain Sundstrom
On Oct 9, 2005, at 12:30 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: As a director last year, I voted for the resolution here : http://www.apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2004/ board_minutes_2004_06_23.txt which, in part, says : RESOLVED, that the Public Relations Committee be and hereby is

Re: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines

2005-10-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Next time, maybe consider trusting me. geir On Oct 9, 2005, at 4:13 PM, Dain Sundstrom wrote: On Oct 9, 2005, at 12:30 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: As a director last year, I voted for the resolution here : http://www.apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2004/

Re: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines

2005-10-09 Thread Dain Sundstrom
The problem was that you didn't sound confident that it was fact, so I questioned it. In the past, I have found that fact quickly becomes opinion when someone is pressed for proof, and considering the gravity of this fact, I felt it was worth pushing for proof. -dain On Oct 9, 2005, at

Re: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines

2005-10-09 Thread J
Just a question based on all the comments on the logo contest to date. Is voting set-up to be done where as all the logo's have a fighting chance or just an opportunity where the contest comes down to the 2 or 3 logo's that have had the controversy over the past couple of weeks. In spending the

Re: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines

2005-10-09 Thread Jeff Genender
J wrote: Now whether I have or have not created a logo for this particular contest is irrevelant. I am just concerned about reading about this push if you all will for 2-3 logo's that quite honestly are not good and well just seem like they had no thought behind them. This seems awfully

Re: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines

2005-10-09 Thread J
I think one needs to understand the principle of design. To look at the issue subjectively and not emotionally. Once emotions are attached then is no longer a design and more a personal issue. All I was trying to do here is to educate this community to look at the logo's subjectively and not

Re: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines

2005-10-08 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Oct 8, 2005, at 1:33 AM, Dain Sundstrom wrote: On Oct 7, 2005, at 8:55 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Rather than co-located next to Stepford, we are located *in* the Apache Software Foundation, and this is an *Apache* project. Therefore, we shall continue to work within the

Re: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines

2005-10-08 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
thinking about this a bit more - I may have misunderstood - yes, we are able to create our own guidelines for the contest, as long as they include what the PRC has asked. The PRC isn't being draconian IMO - they just want to ensure a certain standard for projects, as what we projects do

Re: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines

2005-10-08 Thread Dain Sundstrom
On Oct 8, 2005, at 8:47 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Lets cut to the root of it - Is your problem with having to work within the guidelines from the PRC, or is there some particular problem with the guidelines themselves? I'm sure that if it's the latter, any reasonable suggestion,

Re: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines

2005-10-07 Thread Matt Hogstrom
: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines Can someone please publish this to the most appropriate place? Thanks. Apache Project Logo Contest Guidelines Look and Feel Guidelines: - Submissions must include a usable web version (PNG preferred) and a scalable vector, print quality version of the logo

Re: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines

2005-10-07 Thread J
the PRC for our logo contest. Begin forwarded message: From: susan wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: October 3, 2005 3:42:40 PM EDT To: Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines Can someone please publish this to the most appropriate place

Re: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines

2005-10-07 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
message: From: susan wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: October 3, 2005 3:42:40 PM EDT To: Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines Can someone please publish this to the most appropriate place? Thanks. Apache Project Logo Contest Guidelines

Re: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines

2005-10-07 Thread Matt Hogstrom
. On 10/6/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the PRC for our logo contest. Begin forwarded message: From: susan wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: October 3, 2005 3:42:40 PM EDT To: Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines Can

Re: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines

2005-10-07 Thread Dain Sundstrom
On Oct 7, 2005, at 8:55 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Rather than co-located next to Stepford, we are located *in* the Apache Software Foundation, and this is an *Apache* project. Therefore, we shall continue to work within the guidelines set by the ASF. If there are questions and

Fwd: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines

2005-10-06 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
From the PRC for our logo contest. Begin forwarded message: From: susan wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: October 3, 2005 3:42:40 PM EDT To: Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines Can someone please publish this to the most appropriate

Re: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines

2005-10-06 Thread J
:42:40 PM EDT To: Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Generic Logo Contest Guidelines Can someone please publish this to the most appropriate place? Thanks. Apache Project Logo Contest Guidelines Look and Feel Guidelines: - Submissions must