Re: J2G future positioning

2007-10-30 Thread Paul McMahan
I'm not in favor of generalizing the J2G Eclipse plugin into a super migrator that grows in complexity as we incorporate new types of source formats. I think that instead we should look into factoring out the parts of J2G that could be used for other types migrators into a separate

Re: J2G future positioning

2007-10-30 Thread Prasad Kashyap
I'm with Paul on this. I envision a Migrate2Geronimo Toolkit that will consist of a suite of individual plugins (for Eclipse and G), each handling the migration from a specific appserver to G. Of course, all these may depend on a base or common plugin. But the user will only deal with the plugin

Re: J2G future positioning

2007-10-30 Thread Jay D. McHugh
+1 This is making a -lot- of sense. There is no reason that we need to build a huge monolithic Eclipse plugin to allow people to migrate applications to our modular server platform. I originally didn't even think about breaking it up into a group of specific plugins using a common core -

Re: J2G future positioning

2007-10-30 Thread Erik B. Craig
Looking back, I explained what I was intending very poorly in my previous reply, but Paul has worded it much better. I am in agreement with this approach 100%. +1 Jay D. McHugh wrote: +1 This is making a -lot- of sense. There is no reason that we need to build a huge monolithic Eclipse

J2G future positioning

2007-10-29 Thread Tim McConnell
Hi, Does anyone have any thoughts as to how we'll position the J2G plugin in the future ?? I understand now that in its initial iteration that it is narrowly scoped to work for JBoss specific migrations only (thus the JBoss in the name). However, it seems if we want to eventually enhance it as

Re: J2G future positioning

2007-10-29 Thread Jason Warner
I worry that giving it a more generic name before the tool can actually be applied in a generic way might confuse some users. Although, since it's being moved at the moment, it is the most convenient time to make such a change. I think adding some extra emphasis in the documentation that it's

Re: J2G future positioning

2007-10-29 Thread Kevan Miller
On 10/29/07, Tim McConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Does anyone have any thoughts as to how we'll position the J2G plugin in the future ?? I understand now that in its initial iteration that it is narrowly scoped to work for JBoss specific migrations only (thus the JBoss in the name).

Re: J2G future positioning

2007-10-29 Thread Jason Warner
I was trying to come up with something like that myself. I like the idea of keeping the 2. Somehow, Migrate 2 Geronimo was too obscure for me to grasp. Thanks for ending my mental struggle, Joe. ~Jason Warner On 10/29/07, Joe Bohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevan Miller wrote: On

Re: J2G future positioning

2007-10-29 Thread Joe Bohn
Kevan Miller wrote: On 10/29/07, *Tim McConnell* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Does anyone have any thoughts as to how we'll position the J2G plugin in the future ?? I understand now that in its initial iteration that it is narrowly scoped to

Re: J2G future positioning

2007-10-29 Thread Lin Sun
I think it would be great if it can handle more than jboss to geronimo. We can have a pluggable migration framework that does most of the migration work that is needed from server A to geronimo, and allow a user to build additional plugins to plugin their server specific stuff in. For

Re: J2G future positioning

2007-10-29 Thread Donald Woods
I like a generic Migrator package name under devtools, so it leaves open the possibility for other app servers to Geronimo and to upgrade/migrate from previous Geronimo releases if we make major changes. -Donald Kevan Miller wrote: On 10/29/07, *Tim McConnell* [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: J2G future positioning

2007-10-29 Thread Erik B. Craig
I'm going more along with Jason's original reply here... I like the idea of calling it Geronimo Migration Toolkit, keeping the name slightly ambiguous with the toolkit at the end would allow for us to potentially 'grow into' it in the future. -Erik Tim McConnell wrote: Hi, Does anyone have