Re: [DISCUSS] Leave apache and the incubator

2018-07-05 Thread Edward Capriolo
I filed our report a day late. Sorry for the delay. https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/July2018#preview I made note that we are in discussion to leave the incubator. This leaves 9 podlings that did not report for yall to track down :) On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 6:29 PM, Josh Elser wrote: > I

Re: [DISCUSS] Leave apache and the incubator

2018-07-05 Thread Edward Capriolo
"At the end of the day, I haven't seen an email to this list that wasn't a podling report request in months. I actually stopped hounding Ed personally because it had become a regular thing. There is absolutely no shame in saying that Gossip is not ready for the ASF. I'd really encourage you all to

Re: [DISCUSS] Leave apache and the incubator

2018-07-05 Thread Edward Capriolo
All I am saying is: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/July2018 airflow (no report) Amaterasu (no report) Annotator (no report) BatchEE 7 years in the incubator no report Goblin Report Gossip (no Report) Hawk (report) Livy (no report) Milagro (no report) S2 Graph (no report) The

Re: [DISCUSS] Leave apache and the incubator

2018-07-05 Thread Josh Elser
I won't rehash the comments on the more frequent reporting and shepherding. I think they were appropriately answered already on general@incubator (sorry if the CC to this list was dropped). I want to address the notion that mentors or other ASF members are here to build communities. We're

Re: [DISCUSS] Leave apache and the incubator

2018-07-05 Thread Josh Elser
I will point out that I've been pointing out the writing on the wall for months. This isn't some abrupt action. On 7/5/18 1:00 PM, chandresh pancholi wrote: Before moving it to GitHub, I would say let's give a chance. I am moving out from current job and I have plenty of time to contribute and

Re: [DISCUSS] Leave apache and the incubator

2018-07-05 Thread Ankur Agrawal
Hi Ed Given the challenges with the processes and tooling, I am with you if you want to move this to github. However, just in case it can help, with apache-incubator, or with the github, I can shoulder some of the responsibilities to keep the project alive. I can commit to 3-4 hours of

Re: [DISCUSS] Leave apache and the incubator

2018-07-05 Thread Edward Capriolo
I did not want to leave apache either because of the huge swaths of time invested into their build eco-system. That being said hosting the project elsewhere will have only upsides. For example, I host many projects using sonatype for project hosting.

Re: [DISCUSS] Leave apache and the incubator

2018-07-05 Thread Edward Capriolo
The challenge with this process is Apache claims to be about "building communities", but you do not have great tools to do that. A number of apache projects are propped up by some for profit company who just pays people to work on that thing all the time. I asked for 3 months (normal reporting

Re: [DISCUSS] Leave apache and the incubator

2018-07-05 Thread chandresh pancholi
Before moving it to GitHub, I would say let's give a chance. I am moving out from current job and I have plenty of time to contribute and promote gossip to forum in india. Happy to know your thoughts. -1 from me. On Thu, Jul 5, 2018, 10:21 PM Josh Elser wrote: > Hey Ed, > > I think taking

Re: [DISCUSS] Leave apache and the incubator

2018-07-05 Thread Josh Elser
Hey Ed, I think taking Gossip back to Github is the right decision. The Incubator is designed to support, long-running, low-activity projects like you outline. The regular reports on progress become a time-sink because there isn't the expected level of volume or participants. The incubator

Re: Podling Report Reminder - July 2018

2018-07-05 Thread David Fisher
There is a discussion of retirement process on general@incubator. This is one of those cases where the Github code could be returned to where it was before. https://github.com/edwardcapriolo/gossip/ Regards, Dave On 2018/06/28 17:22:30, Josh Elser wrote: > Ah, maybe "moving to the Attic" is

[DISCUSS] Leave apache and the incubator

2018-07-05 Thread Edward Capriolo
All, It was a sizable effort moving everything Gossip into the incubator. Thank you all for your help along the way. Recently activity has slowed down, much of this falls on me. My opinion is gossip would be much better off moving back to github and be independently hosted (by me or someone