Re: Proxying OPTIONS *

2007-10-02 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Oct 2, 2007, at 1:34 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Roy T. Fielding wrote: I was only talking about the OPTIONS /path case. * is a special case of a true null request -- it should only deal with server capabilities and ignore Location/Directory configs. Could you clarify, though

Re: Proxying OPTIONS *

2007-10-02 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Oct 2, 2007, at 1:39 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: Nope. * is not a resource. Since it is impossible to know the mask of the entire resource space, HTTP does not require that Allow be included on OPTIONS * responses. Just committed a fix. Hmm, I am still seeing an Allow header even after my

Re: svn commit: r581389 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/http/http_core.c

2007-10-02 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Oct 2, 2007, at 2:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: jim Date: Tue Oct 2 14:21:04 2007 New Revision: 581389 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=581389view=rev Log: Ensure the URI is * and not something like *foo I did not want that case to pass through, on purpose. Roy

Re: How to kill 1.3?

2007-10-02 Thread Roy T. Fielding
I don't see why we care, either way. Roy

Re: svn commit: r581374 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/http/http_core.c

2007-10-02 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Oct 2, 2007, at 2:15 PM, Ruediger Pluem wrote: -if ((r-method_number != M_OPTIONS) || !r-uri || strcmp(r- uri, *)) { -return DECLINED; +if ((r-method_number == M_OPTIONS) r-uri (r-uri[0] == '*')) { +return OK; /* Send HTTP pong, without Allow header */

Re: Proxying OPTIONS *

2007-09-30 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Sep 30, 2007, at 4:05 PM, Nick Kew wrote: RFC2616 is clear that: 1. OPTIONS * is allowed. 2. OPTIONS can be proxied. However, it's not clear that OPTIONS * can be proxied, given that there's no natural URL representation of it (* != /*). An absolute http request-URI with no path.

Re: 2.2.7

2007-09-26 Thread Roy T. Fielding
for reporting problems in our bugzilla. Hopefully, other windows developers will pick up the slack and take your ideas as a good start for contributing. Roy T. Fielding (V.P., Apache HTTP Server)

Re: new webaccel appliance

2007-09-18 Thread Roy T . Fielding
On Sep 18, 2007, at 6:46 PM, Plüm, Rüdiger, VF-Group wrote: This works as designed. Please see the difference between the accept headers sent by IE6 and Firefox IE6: Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate Firefox: Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate IE6 adds an additional space between gzip and

Re: Broken URI-unescaping in mod_proxy

2007-09-13 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Sep 9, 2007, at 1:00 PM, Ruediger Pluem wrote: On 09/09/2007 04:30 PM, Nick Kew wrote: On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 11:25:26 +0200 Ruediger Pluem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 09/09/2007 02:21 AM, Nick Kew wrote: PR 41798 and many related ones (eg 39746, 38980 - both of which I've closed today)

Re: Broken URI-unescaping in mod_proxy

2007-09-13 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Sep 13, 2007, at 7:54 AM, Plüm, Rüdiger, VF-Group wrote: Changes to the request URI must be referred back to the client in the form of a redirect. Any other choice will cause security holes in the request chain, somewhere. The proxy (when acting as a proxy) must not change the URI. The

Re: Broken URI-unescaping in mod_proxy

2007-09-13 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Sep 13, 2007, at 8:20 AM, Plüm, Rüdiger, VF-Group wrote: Sorry for being confused, but what change to a URI are you talking about? Transforming GET /a/../b/somewhere into a request for /b/somewhere? This is the usual transformation we do also in the case we deliver static content (without

Re: [VOTE] Apache 2.2.6, 2.0.61 and 1.3.39 release candidate tarballs for review

2007-09-06 Thread Roy T. Fielding
+1 httpd-2.2.6, OS X 10.4.10, gcc 4.0.1 Roy

Re: updated mime.types

2007-08-31 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Aug 30, 2007, at 11:28 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: Roy T. Fielding wrote: Please check out the updated mime.types file and, if possible, see if it breaks anything on a real site. http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/httpd/httpd/trunk/docs/conf/ mime.types Technically, it is docs, but I am blurry

updated mime.types

2007-08-30 Thread Roy T. Fielding
Please check out the updated mime.types file and, if possible, see if it breaks anything on a real site. http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/httpd/httpd/trunk/docs/conf/mime.types Technically, it is docs, but I am blurry-eyed at the moment and need to do *something* for my wedding anniversary

input on board report

2007-08-26 Thread Roy T. Fielding
BTW, I have to submit a status report to the ASF board tomorrow. Does anyone have anything special that I should add? Roy

default content type

2007-08-25 Thread Roy T. Fielding
For standards conformance, I am going to start removing the default content type settings from trunk tomorrow. http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=13986 If you have any problems with that, let them be known here. Roy

Re: svn commit: r569204 - in /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/experimental: config.m4 mod_rewrite_filter.c mod_sedfilter.c

2007-08-23 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Aug 23, 2007, at 7:21 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Joshua Slive wrote: On 8/23/07, William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm happy with a number of alternative names, mod_pcre_filter, mod_text_filter, mod_subst_filter, whatever, a number come to mind. The fact is,

Re: Notice of Intent: TR 2.0.61

2007-08-13 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Aug 13, 2007, at 4:59 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Aug 13, 2007, at 1:08 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Jim Jagielski wrote: Just a FYI: I'm planning on doing a TR of 2.0.61 tomorrow (Aug 13); It's a retag of 2.0.60 (plus the version bump, 'natch), and a reroll with the singular exception

Re: Content-Encoding and Filters

2007-08-06 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Aug 6, 2007, at 1:10 PM, Nick Kew wrote: PRs 23287 and 42993, and recent discussion here, show up some issues with handling Content-Encoding. Specifically regarding mod_deflate, but also relevant to any other filters that affect or are affected by Content-Encoding. I'll just reiterate

Re: [PATCH]: mod_cache: don't store headers that will never be used

2007-07-29 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jul 29, 2007, at 1:03 AM, Niklas Edmundsson wrote: Attached is a patch for mod_cache (patch is for httpd-2.2.4) that implements what I suggested in May (see the entire thread at http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/httpd-dev/200705.mbox/% [EMAIL PROTECTED] ). The problem is that

Re: mod_cache: Don't update when req max-age=0?

2007-05-21 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On May 21, 2007, at 7:49 AM, Niklas Edmundsson wrote: Does anybody see a problem with changing mod_cache to not update the stored headers when the request has max-age=0, the body turns out not to be stale and the on-disk header hasn't expired? Yes, the problem is that it will break content

Re: mod_cache: Don't update when req max-age=0?

2007-05-21 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On May 21, 2007, at 2:22 PM, Ruediger Pluem wrote: Why don't you just add an ignore of cache-control on requests from those stupid download managers? A simple BrowserMatch should do. I am not quite sure what you mean by this. AFAIK you cannot set CacheIgnoreCacheControl based on env

Re: svn commit: r539117 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.2.x/STATUS

2007-05-17 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On May 17, 2007, at 2:48 PM, Ruediger Pluem wrote: On 05/17/2007 11:28 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 5/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: + rpluem : Now that CacheIgnoreQueryString has been backported r538807 + applies cleanly to 2.2.x. So I assume

Re: svn commit: r539063 - in /httpd/httpd/trunk: CHANGES modules/cache/mod_cache.c

2007-05-17 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On May 17, 2007, at 2:53 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: BTW, I'm not a fan of us inventing Expires headers in this section of code - I'd think it'd be far cleaner to off-load Expires response header generation to mod_expires and leave the cache out of it entirely - inventing Expires values deep

Re: svn commit: r539063 - in /httpd/httpd/trunk: CHANGES modules/cache/mod_cache.c

2007-05-17 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On May 17, 2007, at 4:37 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: See the patch I just posted - we should also remove the Date manipulation too, IMO. Probably. If Date is added, it should be done by the protocol filter (mod_proxy) when the message is received, not the cache. Just for clarification: It

Re: Regexp mess?

2007-05-09 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On May 8, 2007, at 7:20 PM, Tim Bray wrote: Why are the regex-related routine declarations splashed across httpd.h and ap_regex.h? And why are there two versions of regcomp, only one of which takes a pool for allocation? Too much history and a bit of indecisiveness. We originally used a

Re: svn commit: r536291 - in /httpd/httpd/branches/2.2.x: STATUS modules/proxy/proxy_util.c

2007-05-09 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On May 8, 2007, at 11:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +#define USE_ALTERNATE_IS_CONNECTED 1 + +#if !defined(APR_MSG_PEEK) defined(MSG_PEEK) +#define APR_MSG_PEEK MSG_PEEK +#endif + +#if USE_ALTERNATE_IS_CONNECTED defined(APR_MSG_PEEK) Huh? Why are we polluting macro space with useless

Re: svn commit: r536291 - in /httpd/httpd/branches/2.2.x: STATUS modules/proxy/proxy_util.c

2007-05-09 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On May 9, 2007, at 5:32 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: On May 9, 2007, at 8:18 AM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: On May 8, 2007, at 11:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +#define USE_ALTERNATE_IS_CONNECTED 1 + +#if !defined(APR_MSG_PEEK) defined(MSG_PEEK) +#define APR_MSG_PEEK MSG_PEEK +#endif

Re: [PROPOSAL] use of SVN $id keyword

2007-03-22 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Mar 22, 2007, at 9:19 AM, Guenter Knauf wrote: I would find it useful to have the SVN revision info in the head of the sources; No, that is not going to happen. Id tags make it extremely hard to manage collaborative development across multiple subversion trees, such as when a vendor keeps

Re: 2.2.4 windows binary w/ssl?

2007-03-16 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Mar 16, 2007, at 2:48 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: I'd like to propose we ship apache_2.2.4-win32-x86- openssl-0.9.8d.msi with this release. Couple of notes... Did anyone else have feedback on the comments/notes? I know Roy's

Re: TSU NOTIFICATION - Encryption

2007-02-25 Thread Roy T. Fielding
[removed CCs to the NSA, BIS, and archive. ;-)] On Feb 25, 2007, at 7:17 PM, Philip M. Gollucci wrote: I'm so out of the loop at the moment its not even funny. Do we need to do something with this ? No, it was just a legal notice filed in case someone decides that libapreq2 qualifies as

TSU NOTIFICATION - Encryption

2007-02-22 Thread Roy T. Fielding
SUBMISSION TYPE: TSU SUBMITTED BY: Roy T. Fielding SUBMITTED FOR:The Apache Software Foundation POINT OF CONTACT: Secretary, The Apache Software Foundation FAX: +1-410-803-2258 MANUFACTURER(S): The Apache Software Foundation PRODUCT NAME/MODEL

TSU NOTIFICATION - Encryption

2007-02-22 Thread Roy T. Fielding
SUBMISSION TYPE: TSU SUBMITTED BY: Roy T. Fielding SUBMITTED FOR:The Apache Software Foundation POINT OF CONTACT: Secretary, The Apache Software Foundation FAX: +1-410-803-2258 MANUFACTURER(S): The Apache Software Foundation PRODUCT NAME/MODEL

Re: TSU NOTIFICATION - Encryption

2007-02-22 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Feb 17, 2007, at 4:06 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: With the posting of these notifications, and record of the http://www.apache.org/licenses/exports/ - there are no further obstacles to posting http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/binaries/win32/ apache_2.2.4-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8d.msi

Re: TSU NOTIFICATION - Encryption

2007-02-22 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Feb 18, 2007, at 3:54 AM, Graham Leggett wrote: And is it now possible to post mod_ssl RPM binaries? Yes. In fact, there is no reason to distinguish between 2.x binaries containing and not containing mod_ssl -- they are all equally 5D002 export-controlled. We would have to fork the

Re: TSU NOTIFICATION - Encryption

2007-02-22 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Feb 22, 2007, at 3:03 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Roy T. Fielding wrote: NOTIFICATION: http://www.apache.org/licenses/exports/ Something I notice about this page; does it make sense to explode the visible hyperlink under Controlled Source to include the text of the URI, e.g

Re: TSU NOTIFICATION - Encryption

2007-02-22 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Feb 22, 2007, at 3:06 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: No release, no binaries, Yes. What is your objection to binaries once a new release is voted on (other than not releasable because ...)? I'd rather not supply floods to the clueless. Providing tools to developers is okay. If someone

Re: 3.0 - Proposed Goals

2007-02-19 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Feb 19, 2007, at 11:06 AM, Sander Temme wrote: On Feb 19, 2007, at 1:44 AM, Nick Kew wrote: The breakage between 1.x and 2.0 was far too much. If we do it again, the world will rightly conclude that Apache is not a solution fit for the long term. +1. While it's fun and rewarding to hack

Re: HTTPD Board report

2007-02-19 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Feb 19, 2007, at 10:27 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: Since the last report in November, we have seen 2 software releases: o httpd 2.2.4 o mod_python 3.3.1 2 new codebases are making their way into the project; mod_ftp has been accepted for graduation from the Incubator (this will also be

TSU NOTIFICATION - Encryption

2007-02-16 Thread Roy T. Fielding
SUBMISSION TYPE: TSU SUBMITTED BY: Roy T. Fielding SUBMITTED FOR:The Apache Software Foundation POINT OF CONTACT: Secretary, The Apache Software Foundation FAX: +1-410-803-2258 MANUFACTURER(S): The Apache Software Foundation PRODUCT NAME/MODEL

TSU NOTIFICATION - Encryption

2007-02-16 Thread Roy T. Fielding
SUBMISSION TYPE: TSU SUBMITTED BY: Roy T. Fielding SUBMITTED FOR:The Apache Software Foundation POINT OF CONTACT: Secretary, The Apache Software Foundation FAX: +1-410-803-2258 MANUFACTURER(S): The Apache Software Foundation, The OpenSSL Project

Re: mod_ftp, next steps.

2007-02-16 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Feb 15, 2007, at 9:41 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: 1. mod_ftp be a httpd sub-project (ala mod_box) http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/mod_ftp/trunk/ needs a new home (there are no tags or remaining branches). Can I suggest; http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/httpd/mod_ftp/trunk/

Re: 3.0 - Introduction

2007-02-14 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Feb 13, 2007, at 11:32 PM, Paul Querna wrote: I believe the httpd project is ready for a push towards the next major version. So do I. In fact I was just about to create a sandbox for that purpose yesterday, but had to get the crypto stuff sorted out first. But do we really want to start

Re: 3.0 - Introduction

2007-02-14 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Feb 14, 2007, at 3:06 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Paul Querna wrote: +1 to moving goal and discussion to a SVN file and starting a sandbox (same level as tags/branches?) Nooo - it is another sort of branch/, so belongs there. We could have a separate place, but why? branches/n.n.x

Re: [VOTE] does mod_python want to be a TLP

2007-02-11 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Feb 7, 2007, at 6:47 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: The vote shall be open 72 hours or until all of the mod_python core group members have voted, whichever is earlier. Well, I didn't get enough responses, so this will have to wait until after folks figure out what to do next. Roy

Re: [VOTE] does mod_python want to be a TLP

2007-02-09 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Feb 9, 2007, at 8:30 AM, Jim Gallacher wrote: Hi Roy, +1 approve requesting a mod_python TLP +2 to the alterative: approve requesting a python TLP I think that would be fine, except you will have to come up with a name that is not Apache Python Project. That is essentially a trademark

Re: Mod_cache expires check

2007-01-17 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jan 17, 2007, at 12:23 PM, Ruediger Pluem wrote: On 01/15/2007 01:56 PM, Bart van der Schans wrote: In r463496 the following check was added to mod_cache.c : else if (exp != APR_DATE_BAD exp r-request_time) { /* if a Expires header is in the past, don't cache it */

Re: Add 2.2.4 to bugzilla

2007-01-12 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jan 12, 2007, at 3:33 AM, Joe Orton wrote: What is the difference between a RESOLVED bug and a CLOSED one? Is it not possible to re-open/add comments to CLOSED reports or something? It's always seemed like a meaningless distinction to me, going through marking stuff CLOSED seems like a

Re: svn commit: r494598 - /httpd/httpd/dist/

2007-01-09 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jan 9, 2007, at 1:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: wrowe Date: Tue Jan 9 13:33:19 2007 New Revision: 494598 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revrev=494598 Log: Move dist/ to where one might expect to find it. Not often we update site/docs without updating dist/ too. About to

Re: [VOTE] httpd-2.2.4 release candidate for review

2007-01-08 Thread Roy T. Fielding
+1, all sigs verified on Darwin Kernel Version 8.8.0 (10.4.8) powerpc powerpc-apple-darwin8-gcc-4.0.1 (GCC) 4.0.1 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 5367) All tests successful, 23 tests and 14 subtests skipped. Files=65, Tests=2078, 100 wallclock secs (48.33 cusr + 13.37 csys = 61.70 CPU)

Re: svn commit: r488780 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.2.x/STATUS

2006-12-20 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Dec 20, 2006, at 5:14 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: * mpm_winnt: Fix return values from wait_for_many_objects. http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revrevision=428029 2.2.x version of patch: Trunk version works +

Re: Wrong etag sent with mod_deflate

2006-12-08 Thread Roy T. Fielding
Argh, my stupid ISP is losing apache email again because they use spamcop. On Dec 7, 2006, at 2:45 PM, Henrik Nordstrom wrote: tor 2006-12-07 klockan 02:42 +0100 skrev Justin Erenkrantz: -1 on adding semantic junk to the existing ETag (and keeping it strong); that's blatantly uncool. Any

Re: Wrong etag sent with mod_deflate

2006-12-08 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Dec 8, 2006, at 3:35 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 12/8/06, Roy T. Fielding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What we should be doing is sending transfer-encoding, not content- encoding, and get past the chicken and egg dilemma of that feature in HTTP. If we are changing content-encoding, then we

DBD spewing crit error messages on OS X default install (trunk)

2006-12-07 Thread Roy T. Fielding
This is a bit unsettling, especially since I neither need nor want any database-backed auth. == [Thu Dec 07 13:49:44 2006] [notice] Digest: generating secret for digest authent ication ... [Thu Dec 07 13:49:44 2006] [notice] Digest: done [Thu Dec 07 13:49:44 2006] [crit] (70023)This

Wrong etag sent with mod_deflate

2006-12-06 Thread Roy T. Fielding
Protocol issues really should be brought up on the dev list, with an appropriate subject, and not left in bugzilla. http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=39727 Entities gzip:ed by mod_deflate still carries the same ETag as the plain entiy, causing inconsistency in ETag aware

Re: vote on concept of ServerTokens Off

2006-12-05 Thread Roy T. Fielding
+1 Roy

Re: {VOTE] Import mod_wombat

2006-12-04 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Dec 4, 2006, at 9:58 AM, Brian McCallister wrote: Thursday came and went, and the tally seems positive: +1 Paul Querna, Jim Jagielski, Justin Erenkrantz, Sander Temme, Garrett Rooney, Brian McCallister +0 Andre Malo May I start the paperwork? Yes, go ahead and submit the software

mod_mbox status

2006-11-13 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Nov 12, 2006, at 12:50 AM, Paul Querna wrote: FWIW, mod_mbox, which you listed as dormant, has had more commits in the last 6 months than the 1.3.x branch. BTW, are you talking about one of the mod_mbox branches? I saw only a couple minor changes on trunk in the last 6 months. Ah, now I

board report due on Monday

2006-11-12 Thread Roy T. Fielding
I am due to send a report for the HTTP server project to the ASF board this Monday, so if you have anything you would like me to send along then now is a good time to speak up. Below is what I have so far. Roy = Apache HTTP Server Project Status report for 15 November

Re: mod_wombat

2006-11-11 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Nov 8, 2006, at 10:16 AM, Paul Querna wrote: Brian has expressed interest in brining mod_wombat to the ASF. Is there interest in this PMC to bring it in under us? It sounds like there is enough interest, given the old theory that three committers are enough to support most any module. I

Re: cache: the store_body interface

2006-10-31 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Oct 30, 2006, at 12:45 PM, Nick Kew wrote: On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:36:43 -0700 Justin Erenkrantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3) change the interface: deal with the buckets entirely in mod_cache and just pass (char *,size_t) pairs to store_body #3 gets my vote. I hate bucket brigades anyway.

Re: cache: the store_body interface

2006-10-31 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Oct 31, 2006, at 1:59 AM, Nick Kew wrote: It was not intended as any such thing. Just a comment noting that we have an extremely simple case in which this caching strategy will degrade system performance not just a little, but by a whole order of magnitude. The lusers will love it. Okay,

mod_cache and its ilk

2006-10-29 Thread Roy T. Fielding
As far as mod_*cache is concerned, we should work out the technical definition of what those modules are supposed to be doing and just stick with one direction on trunk. Once that decision is made, folks can veto code on the basis of technical concerns (such as, that module should be for small

Re: dropping a connection abruptly

2006-10-23 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Oct 23, 2006, at 1:35 PM, Brian McQueen wrote: The issue isn't really the limit, but the way Apache behaves when it encounters the limit. When Apache encounters the limit it still reads then entire incoming byte stream, even if its only throwing it away. That is as demanded by the HTTP

Re: svn commit: r451951 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/proxy/ajp_header.c

2006-10-02 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Oct 2, 2006, at 3:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the r-method_number is unknown the r-method is unknown or corrupted as well. Log the method number that was not recognized. I can't tell from this snippet whether you are talking about the HTTP method received or some bit of marshalled

Re: Coding style

2006-10-02 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Oct 2, 2006, at 11:56 AM, Nick Kew wrote: We have a bunch of new bug reports[1], detailing bugs of the form if ((rv = do_something(args) == APR_SUCCESS)) for if ((rv = do_something(args)) == APR_SUCCESS) Of course, that's a C classic, and can be a *** to spot. Huh, just turn on

Re: Coding style

2006-10-02 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Oct 2, 2006, at 3:54 PM, Nick Kew wrote: On Monday 02 October 2006 23:31, Roy T. Fielding wrote: We can avoid this by adopting an alternative coding style that doesn't rely on confusing parentheses: if (rv = do_something(args), rv == APR_SUCCESS) Which nobody uses because it is so

Re: [Vote] create [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-09-01 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Sep 1, 2006, at 12:25 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Project Committee Members... Adopt [EMAIL PROTECTED], seeded from apache- [EMAIL PROTECTED] current subscribers, for module authors to use for peer developer support? (API 'users', essentially.) +1 on creating the list, -1 on

Re: [Vote] product name - for shipping versions

2006-08-10 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Aug 10, 2006, at 12:26 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Roy would prefer we determine the active consensus. Please vote for what you believe is the principal, proper name of the product we create from the sources located in the

Re: [PATCH 40026] ServerTokens Off

2006-08-02 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Aug 1, 2006, at 11:00 PM, Sebastian Nohn wrote: I'd like to propose these patches for inclusion: http://www.nohn.org/blog/uploads/servertokens_off.patch http://www.nohn.org/blog/uploads/servertokens_off_documentation.patch I know, this is an unwanted topic here. Reasons are described in

Re: svn commit: r425677 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.2.x/STATUS

2006-07-28 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jul 28, 2006, at 2:31 AM, Nick Kew wrote: I'm in two minds about that. There is the workaround of configure --with-pcre but where does that leave packages? PR#27550 names two modules that needed to work around the bundled PCRE: mod_php and mod_caml. That implies two workarounds for the

product name

2006-07-28 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jul 27, 2006, at 1:36 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Roy T. Fielding wrote: That line is for the product name, not the project name. And - I understood that our product is the Apache HTTP Server, not httpd. At least that's been the consensus in the docs project for the last three

Re: product name

2006-07-28 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jul 28, 2006, at 12:32 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: From this perspective and for clarity, while we are on the subject, perhaps apache-httpd-X would be the appropriate package names, and seems that would be consistent with how most many ASF projects are distributing their tarballs

Re: svn commit: r426143 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.2.x/NOTICE

2006-07-27 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jul 27, 2006, at 10:06 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: wrowe Date: Thu Jul 27 10:06:27 2006 New Revision: 426143 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=426143view=rev Log: Wrong project name That line is for the product name, not the project name. Roy

Re: svn commit: r426143 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.2.x/NOTICE

2006-07-27 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jul 27, 2006, at 12:57 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Roy T. Fielding wrote: On Jul 27, 2006, at 10:06 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: wrowe Date: Thu Jul 27 10:06:27 2006 New Revision: 426143 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=426143view=rev Log: Wrong project name That line

Re: httpd binaries and crypto

2006-07-17 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jul 17, 2006, at 7:36 AM, Graham Leggett wrote: With the notice up at http://www.apache.org/dev/crypto.html, is the ASF in a position to start publishing binaries containing crypto? No. We know what needs to be done, but the steps are 1) write the export page a) add all the

updating license header text

2006-07-11 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jul 11, 2006, at 2:24 PM, Paul Querna wrote: It would of been helpful to discuss this change before doing it on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last time someone just went off and did it, we ended up reverting it all again. That was for updating the dates, and the discussion was to hold off because the

Re: restructuring mod_ssl as an overlay

2006-06-09 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jun 9, 2006, at 3:56 AM, Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 12:29:06PM +0200, Plüm, Rüdiger, VF EITO wrote: -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Joe Orton [ Would only committers count as participating in the project for this purpose, do you think? Random people

Re: restructuring mod_ssl as an overlay

2006-06-08 Thread Roy T. Fielding
Sorry, I did a poor job of explaining -- the binaries issue is about openssl. The openssl issue is what required me to read the EAR guidelines, but my response is based on what I learned about the EAR in general. The mere presence of mod_ssl source code appears to be sufficient to make the

Re: restructuring mod_ssl as an overlay

2006-06-08 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jun 8, 2006, at 3:38 PM, Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: Another option is that we could ask the ASF to formally consider upping roots and changing jurisdiction. I have little doubt over what the answer would be, but I'd prefer that we exhaust all of the alternative options before doing anything

restructuring mod_ssl as an overlay

2006-06-07 Thread Roy T. Fielding
After quite a bit of delving into the US export requirements for encryption-related software, I have found that we are able to distribute 100% open source packages with identifiable source code to anyone not in the banned set of countries. However, a) we have to file export notices prior to

Re: restructuring mod_ssl as an overlay

2006-06-07 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jun 7, 2006, at 1:30 PM, Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: e) people who are in the banned set of countries and people in countries that forbid encryption cannot legally download the current httpd-2 packages because they include mod_ssl even when it won't be used. I don't see how this can

Re: restructuring mod_ssl as an overlay

2006-06-07 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jun 7, 2006, at 1:39 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: On the T-8 prohibited countries list, note it is a crime to export technologies to them (it's hard for the US to define a crime to obtain said technologies in a foreign jurisdiction - let's not get into that debate). However, as a

Re: restructuring mod_ssl as an overlay

2006-06-07 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jun 7, 2006, at 3:02 PM, Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 02:51:12PM -0700, Cliff Schmidt wrote: Here's the page that I've put together right now: http://apache.org/dev/crypto.html. Unfortunately, it needs a little more detail. Thank you very much, that's already

Re: restructuring mod_ssl as an overlay

2006-06-07 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jun 7, 2006, at 4:53 PM, Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 04:32:40PM -0700, Roy T. Fielding wrote: We also cannot go to one of those countries and agitate for people to download a copy of httpd and run their own web server Who's we? Members of the ASF? Members of the PMC

Re: [Fwd: Re: LICENSE file(s)]

2006-05-10 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On May 10, 2006, at 2:10 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Just a footnote from legal-discuss that the win32 nmake -f Makefile.win install isn't moving NOTICE (yet) to the target tree, and once we do that, we need to then staple it into the installer. Trivial but needed to be noted. yes,

Re: test/zb.c

2006-05-08 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On May 8, 2006, at 4:24 PM, Garrett Rooney wrote: On 5/8/06, Sander Temme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Found on http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi?rev=80572view=rev Does an archive of that apache-core mailing list mentioned above exist? Yes, it does. The first few years of archives of the

Re: Possible new cache architecture

2006-05-03 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On May 3, 2006, at 5:56 AM, Davi Arnaut wrote: On Wed, 3 May 2006 14:31:06 +0200 (SAST) Graham Leggett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 3, 2006 1:26 am, Davi Arnaut said: Then you will end up with code that does not meet the requirements of HTTP, and you will have wasted your time.

Re: Generic cache architecture

2006-05-03 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On May 3, 2006, at 12:53 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Brian Akins wrote: Is anyone else interested in having a generic cache architecture? (not http). I have plenty of cases were I re-invent the wheel for caching various things (IP's, sessions, whatever, etc.). It would be nice to

copyright notices

2006-04-21 Thread Roy T. Fielding
Wow, this discussion is getting out of hand. It is not a technical issue and thus isn't going to get resolved by throwing paint cans at the shed. For years, the ASF had been following the examples commonly seen in commercial software products of placing a general copyright header all over the

Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-21 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Apr 21, 2006, at 10:39 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: -1 to adopting Jackrabbits' license until Roy's (very reasonable) nit on the language is addressed. -1 to removing copyright until we have an absolute, documented policy from ASF legal. I'm glad you and Roy feel entirely assured

Re: What are we doing about...

2006-04-19 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Apr 19, 2006, at 8:55 AM, Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 08:31:25AM -0700, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 4/19/06, Jim Jagielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before I t/r 1.3, I'll be updating the files to reflect the new copyright. We can determine some better way of doing it

Re: What are we doing about...

2006-04-19 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Apr 19, 2006, at 3:38 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 4/19/06, Roy T. Fielding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jackrabbit/trunk/jackrabbit/ HEADER.txt The only pedantic item I see with that wording is that it says the Apache Software Foundation instead

Re: [VOTE] 2.0.56 candidate

2006-04-18 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Apr 18, 2006, at 1:35 PM, Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: Also, what are people's thoughts on including sha1 signatures in our official dist? We havn't heretofore, is there any benefit? The PGP signatures are there to confirm veracity, the simple checksums are really only to detect corrupted

Re: svn commit: r393037 - in /httpd/httpd/trunk: CHANGES server/protocol.c

2006-04-11 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Apr 11, 2006, at 2:55 PM, Nick Kew wrote: On Tuesday 11 April 2006 22:10, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Ruediger Pluem wrote: On 04/11/2006 04:00 AM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: It probably needs to be updated for RFC 3986 anyway. The path should be set to , not NULL. The HTTP server should

Re: svn commit: r393037 - in /httpd/httpd/trunk: CHANGES server/protocol.c

2006-04-10 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Apr 10, 2006, at 2:50 PM, Ruediger Pluem wrote: I also thought initially to fix this in apr-util, but right know I am not sure about it, because IMHO apr_uri_parse should do generic uri parsing. Setting an empty uri to / seems to be HTTP specific, so I am not sure if we should do this

Re: ECONNRESET, low keepalives, and pipelined requests?

2006-02-09 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Feb 9, 2006, at 9:36 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: Has anyone ever seen a situation where httpd (or the OS) will RST a connection because there's too much unread data or such? I'm doing some pipelined requests with serf against a 2.0.50 httpd on RH7.1 server (2.4.2 kernel?). I'm getting

Re: ECONNRESET, low keepalives, and pipelined requests?

2006-02-09 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Feb 9, 2006, at 10:17 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On IRC, Paul pointed out this bug (now fixed): http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=35292 2.0.50 probably has this bug - in that it'll won't do lingering close correctly - and perhaps that's what I'm running into. You're

Re: mod_python 3.2.7 available for testing

2006-02-07 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Feb 7, 2006, at 9:32 AM, Jim Gallacher wrote: When the core group votes for a release candidate, is it a consensus vote or a majority vote? To quote from the Apache voting guidelines, An action item requiring consensus approval must receive at least 3 binding +1 votes and no vetos. An

Re: CHANGES attribution reminder

2006-01-21 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jan 21, 2006, at 2:29 PM, Ruediger Pluem wrote: Ok. Then I had a different understanding from my osmosis :-). Any other comments on this? I have no problem adopting the above rules for future CHANGE entries. Jim is correct. It is easy to forget now because Subversion doesn't have the

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