Re: Migrate to git?

On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 04:09:34PM -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: > Various PMCs have made their default/de-facto SCM git and have seen an > increase in contributions and contributors... > > Is this something the httpd project should consider? Especially w/ the > foundation officially supporting

Re: Migrate to git?

On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 1:42 AM Ruediger Pluem wrote: >... > Would we lose this possibility [of editing log messages] with git? > Yes. The log message is part of the commit hash. You can effectively delete the "tip" commit of a line-of-development, and replace it with a new commit (ie. same

Re: Migrate to git?

On 10/06/2019 05:06 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > There is also, as you mention, the risk of force-pushing to rewrite history, > but as I understand it, we can disable this > by requiring PRs for each change to the canonical branch(es). Maybe a git dummy question, but how do you adjust log

Re: Migrate to git?

On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 04:51:56PM +0200, Stefan Sperling wrote: > On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 03:27:31PM +0100, Joe Orton wrote: > > At the moment I think we have a quality control problem for 2.4.x, yet I > > find it hard to justify spending much time on writing test cases because > > that stuff

Re: Migrate to git?

On 14/10/2019 09.51, Stefan Sperling wrote: On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 03:27:31PM +0100, Joe Orton wrote: At the moment I think we have a quality control problem for 2.4.x, yet I find it hard to justify spending much time on writing test cases because that stuff is run so rarely. How many tests

Re: Migrate to git?

Hi Joe, Il giorno lun 14 ott 2019 alle ore 16:27 Joe Orton ha scritto: > > On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 at 02:17:12PM +0200, Luca Toscano wrote: > > Il giorno mar 8 ott 2019 alle ore 11:04 Greg Stein > > ha scritto: > > > > > > Travis CI is possible *today* ... since the svn commits are > > >

Re: Migrate to git?

On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 03:27:31PM +0100, Joe Orton wrote: > At the moment I think we have a quality control problem for 2.4.x, yet I > find it hard to justify spending much time on writing test cases because > that stuff is run so rarely. How many tests proposed in 2.4.x STATUS > have had a

Re: Migrate to git?

On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 at 02:17:12PM +0200, Luca Toscano wrote: > Il giorno mar 8 ott 2019 alle ore 11:04 Greg Stein > ha scritto: > > > > Travis CI is possible *today* ... since the svn commits are > > replicated over to github, Travis can pick them up and run tests. > > Just file an INFRA

Re: Migrate to git?

On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 10:09 PM Jim Jagielski wrote: > > Various PMCs have made their default/de-facto SCM git and have seen an > increase in contributions and contributors... > > Is this something the httpd project should consider? Especially w/ the > foundation officially supporting Github,

Re: Migrate to git?

Fwiw, Apache Allura has this workflow for svn. And a bunch of other tooling for github-like functionality around svn. On Wed, Oct 9, 2019, 08:59 Michal Karm wrote: > On 10/08/2019 10:44 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 3:13 AM Joe Orton > > wrote: >

Re: Migrate to git?

On Wed, Oct 9, 2019, 07:59 Michal Karm wrote: > On 10/08/2019 10:44 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 3:13 AM Joe Orton > > wrote: > > > > On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 04:09:34PM -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > > Various PMCs have made their

Re: Migrate to git?

On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 7:59 AM Michal Karm wrote: > On 10/08/2019 10:44 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 3:13 AM Joe Orton > > wrote: > > > > On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 04:09:34PM -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > > Various PMCs have made their

Re: Migrate to git?

On 10/08/2019 10:44 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 3:13 AM Joe Orton > wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 04:09:34PM -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > Various PMCs have made their default/de-facto SCM git and have seen an > > increase in

Re: Migrate to git?

Il giorno mar 8 ott 2019 alle ore 11:04 Greg Stein ha scritto: > > Travis CI is possible *today* ... since the svn commits are replicated over > to github, Travis can pick them up and run tests. Just file an INFRA ticket > to enable it. > Thanks for the pointer, will file a task to infra to

Re: Migrate to git?

On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 4:45 AM Nick Kew wrote: >... > OK, that's not quite fair. But isn't that what the github mirror is for? > Not even close to fair, stop that. The github mirror is readonly. As noted upthread, that means merging PRs and other activities are limited. It cannot act as a

Re: Migrate to git?

> On 7 Oct 2019, at 15:06, Daniel Gruno wrote: > > On 06/10/2019 17.59, Nick Kew wrote: >> >> OK, I've just dug up an example in an Apache/Github project. A simple >> renaming >> of a source file, that with "svn mv" would have preserved history, seems to >> have >> essentially wiped its

Re: Migrate to git?

On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 3:13 AM Joe Orton wrote: > On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 04:09:34PM -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > Various PMCs have made their default/de-facto SCM git and have seen an > > increase in contributions and contributors... > > > > Is this something the httpd project should

Re: Migrate to git?

On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 04:09:34PM -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: > Various PMCs have made their default/de-facto SCM git and have seen an > increase in contributions and contributors... > > Is this something the httpd project should consider? Especially w/ the > foundation officially supporting

AW: Migrate to git?

C2 General > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Daniel Gruno > Gesendet: Montag, 7. Oktober 2019 22:48 > An: dev@httpd.apache.org > Betreff: Re: Migrate to git? > > On 07/10/2019 14.48, Ruediger Pluem wrote: > > > > Did I get it correct from Daniel,

Re: Migrate to git?

On 07/10/2019 14.48, Ruediger Pluem wrote: On 10/06/2019 06:51 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: On Oct 5, 2019, at 1:09 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: Various PMCs have made their default/de-facto SCM git and have seen an increase in contributions and contributors... Is this something the httpd

Re: Migrate to git?

On 10/06/2019 06:51 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: >> On Oct 5, 2019, at 1:09 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: >> >> Various PMCs have made their default/de-facto SCM git and have seen an >> increase in contributions and contributors... >> >> Is this something the httpd project should consider?

Re: Migrate to git?

On 06/10/2019 17.59, Nick Kew wrote: On 6 Oct 2019, at 04:06, Daniel Gruno wrote: On 05/10/2019 19.30, Nick Kew wrote: If it moves to github, how and at what level is history preserved? Github can do alarming things with history even for a project that's always been there! We would have

Re: Migrate to git?

> Regarding httpd, we have the git mirror, so access is available through > whatever > a contributor prefers. How is that not best-of-both-worlds? Can't merge a pull request, can only close it. Can't do either from the UI. IIUC, GH doesn't know who contributors are for their "merged" PRs. Net:

Re: Migrate to git?

> On 6 Oct 2019, at 04:06, Daniel Gruno wrote: > > On 05/10/2019 19.30, Nick Kew wrote: >>> >> If it moves to github, how and at what level is history preserved? Github >> can do >> alarming things with history even for a project that's always been there! > > We would have the exact same

Re: Migrate to git?

On Sun, Oct 6, 2019, 11:52 Roy T. Fielding wrote: > > On Oct 5, 2019, at 1:09 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > > > Various PMCs have made their default/de-facto SCM git and have seen an > increase in contributions and contributors... > Not because of git, but due to GitHub. Git is "meh", but

Re: Migrate to git?

On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 at 17:52, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > > On Oct 5, 2019, at 1:09 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > > > Various PMCs have made their default/de-facto SCM git and have seen an > increase in contributions and contributors... > > > > Is this something the httpd project should consider?

Re: Migrate to git?

> On Oct 5, 2019, at 1:09 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > Various PMCs have made their default/de-facto SCM git and have seen an > increase in contributions and contributors... > > Is this something the httpd project should consider? Especially w/ the > foundation officially supporting Github,

Re: Migrate to git?

+1 On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 at 19:29, Mads Toftum wrote: > On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 04:09:34PM -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > Various PMCs have made their default/de-facto SCM git and have seen an > increase in contributions and contributors... > > > > Is this something the httpd project should

Re: Migrate to git?

On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 04:09:34PM -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: > Various PMCs have made their default/de-facto SCM git and have seen an > increase in contributions and contributors... > > Is this something the httpd project should consider? Especially w/ the > foundation officially supporting

Re: Migrate to git?

On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 at 14:24, Rich Bowen wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 21:14 Dennis Clarke wrote: >> >> There is nothing >> remotely wrong with subversion and "popular" is not a valid argument. >> Madonna was popular also. So was Lawrence Welk. > > > It's more nuanced than "popular". It's about

Re: Migrate to git?

On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 21:14 Dennis Clarke wrote: > There is nothing > remotely wrong with subversion and "popular" is not a valid argument. > Madonna was popular also. So was Lawrence Welk. > It's more nuanced than "popular". It's about making it accessible to - and attracting - a new generation

Re: Migrate to git?

Il giorno sab 5 ott 2019 alle ore 22:09 Jim Jagielski ha scritto: > > Various PMCs have made their default/de-facto SCM git and have seen an > increase in contributions and contributors... > > Is this something the httpd project should consider? Especially w/ the > foundation officially

Re: Migrate to git?

On 05/10/2019 19.30, Nick Kew wrote: On 5 Oct 2019, at 21:09, Jim Jagielski wrote: Various PMCs have made their default/de-facto SCM git and have seen an increase in contributions and contributors... Is this something the httpd project should consider? Especially w/ the foundation

Re: Migrate to git?

On 10/5/19 8:30 PM, Nick Kew wrote: On 5 Oct 2019, at 21:09, Jim Jagielski wrote: Various PMCs have made their default/de-facto SCM git and have seen an increase in contributions and contributors... Is this something the httpd project should consider? Especially w/ the foundation

Re: Migrate to git?

> On 5 Oct 2019, at 21:09, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > Various PMCs have made their default/de-facto SCM git and have seen an > increase in contributions and contributors... > > Is this something the httpd project should consider? Especially w/ the > foundation officially supporting Github,

Re: Migrate to git?

Hello, Although I am not precisely active now using the repos due to time constraints I would also feel it would be a good move. So FWIW, +1 if I may. El sáb., 5 oct. 2019 a las 22:36, Rich Bowen () escribió: > > With my community development hat on, a big +1 even though I hate Git. > >

Re: Migrate to git?

Yes! Yes! Do it! -C On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 16:36 Rich Bowen wrote: > With my community development hat on, a big +1 even though I hate Git. > > Shosholoza, > Rich > > > On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 16:09 Jim Jagielski wrote: > >> Various PMCs have made their default/de-facto SCM git and have seen an

Re: Migrate to git?

With my community development hat on, a big +1 even though I hate Git. Shosholoza, Rich On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 16:09 Jim Jagielski wrote: > Various PMCs have made their default/de-facto SCM git and have seen an > increase in contributions and contributors... > > Is this something the httpd

Re: Migrate to git?

On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 4:09 PM Jim Jagielski wrote: > > Various PMCs have made their default/de-facto SCM git and have seen an > increase in contributions and contributors... > > Is this something the httpd project should consider? Especially w/ the > foundation officially supporting Github, it

Re: Migrate to git?

Good grief. Yes! No-one uses svn these days. I can't even remember how to. Literally everything I contribute to uses git. On Sat, 5 Oct 2019 at 21:09, Jim Jagielski wrote: > Various PMCs have made their default/de-facto SCM git and have seen an > increase in contributions and contributors... >

Re: Migrate to git?

On 05/10/2019 15.09, Jim Jagielski wrote: Various PMCs have made their default/de-facto SCM git and have seen an increase in contributions and contributors... Is this something the httpd project should consider? Especially w/ the foundation officially supporting Github, it seems like time to

Migrate to git?

Various PMCs have made their default/de-facto SCM git and have seen an increase in contributions and contributors... Is this something the httpd project should consider? Especially w/ the foundation officially supporting Github, it seems like time to have a discussion about it, especially as