Re: Are we there yet?

2011-12-04 Thread Noel Butler
On Sun, 2011-12-04 at 09:47 -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Dec 2, 2011, at 6:48 PM, Stefan Fritsch wrote: Hi, where are we WRT 2.4? There seems to be a lot of renewed effort in getting 2.4/trunk is a really releasable state, which is all Goodness. Ideally, I'd like to release

Re: Time for 2.4.0 GA??

2012-01-11 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2012-01-11 at 18:00 -0600, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 1/11/2012 5:51 PM, Noel Butler wrote: On Wed, 2012-01-11 at 14:41 -0600, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: cycles have taught us users aren't adopting our 2.odd releases. Sigh. This is likely a carry over from the old days

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.0

2012-01-17 Thread Noel Butler
On Mon, 2012-01-16 at 12:50 -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote: The 2.4.0 (prerelease) tarballs are available for download and test: http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ I'm calling a VOTE on releasing these as Apache httpd 2.4.0 GA. Vote will last the normal 72 hours... Can I get a w00t

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.0

2012-01-17 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 18:31 +1000, Noel Butler wrote: On Mon, 2012-01-16 at 12:50 -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote: The 2.4.0 (prerelease) tarballs are available for download and test: http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ I'm calling a VOTE on releasing these as Apache httpd 2.4.0 GA

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.0

2012-01-17 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 13:02 +0200, Graham Leggett wrote: On 17 Jan 2012, at 10:31 AM, Noel Butler wrote: Build fails when using static built modules and disabling dav, but builds fine if option to disable dav is removed. ie: --enable-mods-static=all --disable-dav in /tmp/httpd

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.0

2012-01-19 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2012-01-18 at 14:12 +0200, Graham Leggett wrote: This never was a problem in 2.2, if one disabled dav it was disabled, as it should be disabled, fully, not only in parts, here and there, granted it's now changed because modules are no longer defaulted to statically built, but

Re: [RESCINDED ]Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.0

2012-01-29 Thread Noel Butler
On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 13:19 -0600, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 1/29/2012 4:21 AM, Michael Felt wrote: Um. Now that I am back from vacation - I am aware you are busy with a known bug (core issue), but would still be nice to have a 2.4.0/2.4.1 something to test-build with (for AIX).

Re: [RESCINDED ]Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.0

2012-01-30 Thread Noel Butler
On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 11:03 +0100, Michael Felt wrote: prefix:/opt/apache2 exec_prefix: /opt/apache2 I have often ponderd WHY people do things like this, the projects name is apache, not apache2 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Rename apachectl prior to 2.4.1 tag?

2012-01-30 Thread Noel Butler
On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 15:53 -0600, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 1/30/2012 3:12 PM, Stefan Fritsch wrote: And there is apachectl, not httpdctl. Would anyone else like to see this changed, now, for the 2.4 releases? No... Maybe that's a consideration for 3.stable-release, if at

Re: documenting -deps

2012-01-31 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2012-01-31 at 14:40 -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote: The release is a snapshot of time. All we are saying if we bundle apr/apu (in whatever fashion) is that at the time we are releasing httpd, here are the additional ASF packages (apr/apu) that we're providing to you, the end user, for

Re: [VOTE] Bundle apr/apu with 2.4.x

2012-02-02 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2012-02-02 at 09:54 -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote: [X] +1: Bundle apr/apu w/ Apache httpd 2.4.x [ ] +0: I don't care [ ] -1: Do not bundle apr/apu with Apache httpd 2.4.x signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.1

2012-02-13 Thread Noel Butler
Builds fine on slackware, though, I did find it mildly amusing I had to rebuild PHP. Never had to do that before, not even with 2.4.0 root@fox:/usr/local/src/httpd-2.4.1# /etc/rc.d/rc.httpd start httpd: Syntax error on line 55 of /usr/local/apache/conf/httpd.conf: Module

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.1

2012-02-13 Thread Noel Butler
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 20:05 -0600, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 2/13/2012 7:07 PM, Noel Butler wrote: Builds fine on slackware, though, I did find it mildly amusing I had to rebuild PHP. Never had to do that before, not even with 2.4.0 If you didn't have to rebuild mod_php5 between

Re: TRACE still enabled by default

2012-03-16 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2012-03-16 at 10:18 -0400, Eric Covener wrote: We still enable TRACE by default. Is this useful enough to justify making every other poor sap with a security scanner have to manually turn it off? I'm hoping 2.4.x is early enough in life where flipping this wouldn't be too

Re: TRACE still enabled by default

2012-03-21 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 13:55 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: Firstly, as stated previously, I agree TRACE should be disabled by default because those that need it are probably at about 1 in 1, and I'd like to see a proper vote called on it :) however... fact is that nessus-scans usually

Re: TRACE still enabled by default

2012-03-21 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 14:48 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: Nessus, despite I do like it, and as it is a respected industry standard, has its fair share of false positives, for simple example, look at FTP, running a public FTP server you get a severity medium warning, I mean like..

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.2 as GA

2012-04-06 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2012-04-06 at 12:39 -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Apr 5, 2012, at 8:24 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: The pre-release test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.4.2 can be found at the usual place: http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ I'm calling a VOTE on releasing these as Apache

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.2 as GA

2012-04-15 Thread Noel Butler
On Sun, 2012-04-15 at 13:10 +0200, Guenter Knauf wrote: !--#echo var=REMOTE_ADDR-- Related to the removal of config option DefaultType perhaps? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.2 as GA

2012-04-15 Thread Noel Butler
This is NOT the list for starting OS wars on. On Sun, 2012-04-15 at 19:10 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: what is the reason to use Netware for a webserver? besides the fact that there are so many operating systems running httpd fine and Netware is EOL at all signature.asc Description:

Re: md5crypt passwords

2012-06-20 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2012-06-20 at 22:52 +0200, Stefan Fritsch wrote: On Wed, 20 Jun 2012, Nick Edwards wrote: I posted this to users list last week but no-one bit, so I'm trying here. With md5crypt no longer recommended for use by its author, will Apache soon support sha256/sha512 in basic

Re: md5crypt passwords

2012-06-21 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2012-06-21 at 10:40 +0100, Ben Laurie wrote: 4. Use something that is hard to optimise in hardware (ideally). 5. Only hire web developers who know what they're doing, who know what security is, and how to audit their code :) If they cant get the database, then it wouldn't mater if

Re: md5crypt passwords

2012-06-21 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2012-06-21 at 10:57 +0100, Ben Laurie wrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Issac Goldstand mar...@beamartyr.net wrote: On 21/06/2012 12:40, Ben Laurie wrote: 4. Use something that is hard to optimise in hardware (ideally). And what about massive sites that need the crypto HW

Re: Linking mod_ssl with a specific OpenSSL version

2012-08-08 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2012-08-08 at 17:03 +0100, Joe Orton wrote: On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 08:00:25AM +0200, Kaspar Brand wrote: My thinking was that people should explicitly tell configure that they want to link with the libs in a build directory (so that they don't accidentally use a directory which

Re: tagging 2.4.3

2012-08-10 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2012-08-10 at 13:36 -0400, Jeff Trawick wrote: -2.4.3 : In development. Jim proposes a TR around July 25. +2.4.3 : In development. Jim proposes a TR around Aug 10. Jim, please give a heads up some handful of hours in advance if at all possible. is not 4 weeks enough

Re: tagging 2.4.3

2012-08-10 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2012-08-10 at 20:17 -0400, Jeff Trawick wrote: On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Noel Butler noel.but...@ausics.net wrote: On Fri, 2012-08-10 at 13:36 -0400, Jeff Trawick wrote: -2.4.3 : In development. Jim proposes a TR around July 25. +2.4.3 : In development. Jim

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.3 as GA

2012-08-18 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2012-08-17 at 13:34 -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: [X] +1: Good to go [ ] +0: meh [ ] -1: Danger Will Robinson. And why. Vote will last the normal 72 hrs. Good to go on Slackware 13.1 13.37(and 14.0 rc2) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message

Re: scorebord permissions

2012-09-06 Thread Noel Butler
Confirmed On Sat, 2012-09-01 at 16:09 +1000, Nick Edwards wrote: Hello, I have an issue where, apache is, when using graceful reload, setting perms for domains as root -rw--- 1 root root 44 Sep 1 05:59 somedomain yet if I delete this and either click on URL, or, stop

Re: scorebord permissions

2012-09-06 Thread Noel Butler
my bad... confirmed on 2.4.3 Nick, what version of httpd are you running? including this information helps. On Fri, 2012-09-07 at 09:27 +1000, Noel Butler wrote: Confirmed On Sat, 2012-09-01 at 16:09 +1000, Nick Edwards wrote: Hello, I have an issue where, apache is, when

Re: Powered by icon for httpd-2.4 needs update

2012-10-04 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2012-10-03 at 23:15 -0400, Eric Covener wrote: http://people.apache.org/~gsmith/httpd/apache_pb2copy.png http://www.humbedooh.com/apache/apache_pb.png http://www.humbedooh.com/apache/apache_pb2.png http://www.humbedooh.com/apache/apache_pb3.png pb3 has my vote +1

RE: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-28 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 12:27 +, Plüm, Rüdiger, Vodafone Group wrote: -Original Message- From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:j...@jagunet.com] Sent: Mittwoch, 28. November 2012 13:22 To: dev@httpd.apache.org Subject: Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build On Nov 28, 2012, at

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.4 as GA

2013-02-18 Thread Noel Butler
On Mon, 2013-02-18 at 15:34 -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote: The pre-release test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.4.4 can be found at the usual place: http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ I'm calling a VOTE on releasing these as Apache httpd 2.4.4 GA. NOTE: The -deps tarballs are included here

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.4 as GA

2013-02-18 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2013-02-19 at 13:35 +1000, Noel Butler wrote: reports: APR-util Version: 1.5.1 I note the APR version in -deps is only 1.4.6, but APR-utils is 1.5.1 could this be the issue? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.4 as GA

2013-02-18 Thread Noel Butler
Hi Bill, On Mon, 2013-02-18 at 23:23 -0600, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: in -deps is only 1.4.6, but APR-utils is 1.5.1 have tested overwrites, and clearing of all bin/ build/ lib/ and fresh installs no change. You cleaned lib/ of all *subdirectories*? I install httpd under

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.4 as GA

2013-02-19 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2013-02-19 at 07:34 -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote: A simple check would be to rebuild 2.4.3 but using the -deps from 2.4.4... Close... 2.4.3 with 2.4.4 -deps fail *but* 2.4.4 with -deps from 2.4.3 *works* So as I suspected it is something in 2.4.4. APR/ APR-util as

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.4 as GA

2013-02-19 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2013-02-19 at 12:03 +0100, Rainer Jung wrote: LogLevel info auth_basic:trace8 authn_dbd:trace8 Thanks I checked whether the patch compiles fine, but haven't tested it, so careful if applying to production. no problem this is only on dev at present. NOTE: passwords returned in

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.4 as GA

2013-02-19 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2013-02-20 at 02:20 +0100, Rainer Jung wrote: grep CRYPT build/apache/srclib/apr-util/config.status D[HAVE_CRYPT_R]= 1 D[CRYPT_R_STRUCT_CRYPT_DATA]= 1 | I'd like to check, whether your platform has CRYPT_R_CRYPTD or CRYPT_R_STRUCT_CRYPT_DATA defined. If it is the latter, then what OS

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.4 as GA

2013-02-19 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2013-02-19 at 23:31 -0600, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: Note he mentioned SHA512, not crypt(). I don't know that this makes a difference on that architecture. But isn't it just a hand off to system crypt() (modern crypt(), not the ancient 8 char one), since httpd is limited in

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.4 as GA

2013-02-19 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2013-02-20 at 01:07 -0600, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 16:42:56 +1000 Noel Butler noel.but...@ausics.net wrote: On Tue, 2013-02-19 at 23:31 -0600, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: Note he mentioned SHA512, not crypt(). I don't know that this makes

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.4 as GA

2013-02-20 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2013-02-20 at 01:07 -0600, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: Which remains my point... our current 2.4 and 2.2 candidates should suffer the same flaw. Confirmed, 2.2 candidate suffers same problem signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.4 as GA

2013-02-20 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2013-02-20 at 15:06 -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote: -deps for 2.4.4 are not released, so it's a non-issue for 2.4.x. I can't recall if we bundle apr/apu with 2.2.x but if we do, then I ran a test for Bill to check if it suffers same fate, yes it is included, and yes, it does. I say

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.4 as GA

2013-02-20 Thread Noel Butler
Hi Rainer, On Wed, 2013-02-20 at 09:07 +0100, Rainer Jung wrote: I prepared another round of patches t check, what's wrong in apr_password_validate. All patches can be applied in srclib/apr-util. They are *not* cumulative: 1) Undo one change in the password validation function and check

Re: apr_password_validate (was: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.4 as GA)

2013-02-20 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2013-02-20 at 22:28 +0100, Stefan Fritsch wrote: [moving to dev@apr, please remove dev@httpd when replying] On Wednesday 20 February 2013, Noel Butler wrote: On Wed, 2013-02-20 at 01:07 -0600, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: Which remains my point... our current 2.4 and 2.2 candidates

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.4 as GA

2013-02-20 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2013-02-20 at 23:56 +0100, Rainer Jung wrote: That's strange, the additional stderr output crypt_r returned NULL or crypt_r returned '%s' is not shown here. Indeed, I'm running : LogLevel debug auth_basic:trace8 authn_dbd:trace8 Briefly ran trace8 globally, but only

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.4 as GA

2013-02-24 Thread Noel Butler
On Sat, 2013-02-23 at 13:29 +0100, Rainer Jung wrote: Concerning the apr_password_validate() problem in APU 1.5.1 and related httpd release testing failures: The bug was fixed in http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revisionrevision=1449309 Don't know how I could stare so long at the code

Re: URL scanning by bots

2013-05-02 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2013-05-01 at 14:40 +0200, Graham Leggett wrote: On 01 May 2013, at 1:51 PM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote: But *based on the actual data and patterns which I can observe on my servers (not guesses), I think it might have an effect*. Of course it might have an effect -

Re: URL scanning by bots

2013-05-02 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2013-05-01 at 21:15 +0200, Christian Folini wrote: real-time blacklist lookup (- ModSecurity's @rbl operator). Try using that on busy servers (webhosts/ISP's)... might be fine for a SOHO, but in a larger commercial world, forget it, the impact is far far worse than the other

Re: unsubscribe

2013-05-30 Thread Noel Butler
sad state of affairs when system administrators don't even know how to unsubscribe from mailing lists, what hope do their users have... On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 21:44 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: do it yourself like on any other mailing-list mail-headers are your friend Am 30.05.2013 18:47,

Re: unsubscribe

2013-05-30 Thread Noel Butler
to unsubscribe me lol On May 30, 2013, at 6:25 PM, Noel Butler noel.but...@ausics.net wrote: sad state of affairs when system administrators don't even know how to unsubscribe from mailing lists, what hope do their users have... On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 21:44 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote

Re: [discuss] The 'RM' Baton [was VOTE]

2013-07-10 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 03:24 -0500, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: Because the project is incapable of releasing more than two minor subversions, per year, at present. on holiday with a dog slow 3G vpn tonight, so I'll be brief (and wont see any replies until I return on Sunday...) I have never

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.5 as GA

2013-07-15 Thread Noel Butler
On Sun, 2013-07-14 at 23:40 +0200, Rainer Jung wrote: On 14.07.2013 23:05, Rainer Jung wrote: On 11.07.2013 20:54, Jim Jagielski wrote: The pre-release test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.4.5 can be found at the usual place: http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ I'm calling a VOTE on

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.6 as GA

2013-07-17 Thread Noel Butler
On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 13:51 -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Jul 15, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: The pre-release test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.4.6 can be found at the usual place: http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ I'm calling a VOTE on releasing

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.7 as GA

2013-11-21 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 12:45 -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote: I'm calling a VOTE on releasing these as Apache httpd 2.4.7 GA. [ ] +1: Good to go [ ] +0: meh [ ] -1: Danger Will Robinson. And why. Vote will last the normal 72 hrs. +1 slackware 13.1 13.37 14.0 14.1 built w/ apr

Re: Looking to TR 2.4.8 in Feb...

2014-01-09 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2014-01-09 at 14:15 -0600, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: I can certainly apply and propose for back port the defect fixes, this week. Those which change the configured behavior in an unexpected way are no longer easy fits on 2.2 or 2.4, and need further discussion about their

Re: [VOTE] obscuring (or not) commit logs/CHANGES for fixes to vulnerabilities

2014-01-10 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2014-01-10 at 08:38 -0500, Jeff Trawick wrote: [ X] It is mandatory to provide best available description and any available tracking information when committing fixes for vulnerabilities to any branch, delaying committing of the fix if the information shouldn't be provided yet.

Re: Use of HTML on mailing lists (Re: SO_REUSEPORT in the children processes)

2014-03-07 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 12:58 -0500, Mikhail T. wrote: On 07.03.2014 12:28, Yann Ylavic wrote: Sorry, this was posted from gmail... Is it written anywhere in the bylaws of this mailing list, that use of HTML is something to apologize for? With all due sympathies to Reindl's medical

Re: Use of HTML on mailing lists (Re: SO_REUSEPORT in the children processes)

2014-03-07 Thread Noel Butler
Harry, you have been warned before, dont bring your antics onto this list, this is about the only list you have been most well behaved on, unlike others, please remember our previous conversations. If you think a posters post violates some RFC, ignore it, or take it up with him in private, do

Re: Use of HTML on mailing lists (Re: SO_REUSEPORT in the children processes)

2014-03-07 Thread Noel Butler
because they ask for easier readable posts while you are the one proven to playing net cop due maintaining a RBL? Is it written anywhere in the bylaws of this mailing list is the response you should have been attacking Am 08.03.2014 00:39, schrieb Noel Butler: Harry, you have been warned before

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.8 as GA

2014-03-11 Thread Noel Butler
On 12/03/2014 09:17, Noel Butler wrote: On 12/03/2014 02:34, Jim Jagielski wrote: The pre-release test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.4.8 can be found at the usual place: http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ [1] I'm calling a VOTE on releasing these as Apache httpd 2.4.8 GA. [ ] +1

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.8 as GA

2014-03-11 Thread Noel Butler
On 12/03/2014 02:34, Jim Jagielski wrote: The pre-release test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.4.8 can be found at the usual place: http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ [1] I'm calling a VOTE on releasing these as Apache httpd 2.4.8 GA. [ ] +1: Good to go [ ] +0: meh [ ] -1: Danger Will

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.9 as GA

2014-03-13 Thread Noel Butler
On 14/03/2014 02:49, Jim Jagielski wrote: The pre-release test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.4.9 can be found at the usual place: http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ [1] I'm calling a VOTE on releasing these as Apache httpd 2.4.9 GA. [ ] +1: Good to go [ ] +0: meh [ ] -1: Danger Will

Re: Configurable suexec bin

2011-02-22 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 20:04 +0300, Alexander GQ Gerasiov wrote: because I use modern OS with package system and don't want to depend on Now there's a contradiction. 2.I'd like to use apache2+fcgid+suexec+php5. But with original suexec I apache2 ?? whats that sarcasm? it is called

Re: Configurable suexec bin

2011-02-22 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 02:46 +0300, Alexander GQ Gerasiov wrote: Hello, Noel. If you have seen apache2 it is only because debian (and its clones) call it that, I've seen an apache tree call it that yet. But, thats a pretty typical response from a debian troll, debian is right and everyone

Re: Configurable suexec bin

2011-02-22 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 11:55 +1000, Noel Butler wrote: If you have seen apache2 it is only because debian (and its clones) call it that, I've seen an apache tree call it that yet. Correction, I've *never* seen... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: mysql apache md5

2011-03-07 Thread Noel Butler
On Mon, 2011-03-07 at 13:51 +0100, Johan De Meersman wrote: Umm... I'm no crypto guru, but I've never heard of MD5 having variants, let alone a salt. MD5 is MD5 is MD5. APR, incidentally, is the Apache Runtime, afaik - part of the build kit for apache modules. I strongly suspect your

Re: mysql apache md5

2011-03-07 Thread Noel Butler
On Mon, 2011-03-07 at 19:38 -0600, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 3/7/2011 5:31 PM, Noel Butler wrote: On Mon, 2011-03-07 at 13:51 +0100, Johan De Meersman wrote: Umm... I'm no crypto guru, but I've never heard of MD5 having variants, let alone a salt. MD5 is MD5 is MD5. APR, incidentally

Re: mysql apache md5

2011-03-08 Thread Noel Butler
? On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 00:06 -0600, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 3/7/2011 8:31 PM, Noel Butler wrote: On Mon, 2011-03-07 at 19:38 -0600, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 3/7/2011 5:31 PM, Noel Butler wrote: On Mon, 2011-03-07 at 13:51 +0100, Johan De Meersman wrote: Umm... I'm no crypto

Re: [Vote] httpd 2.2.18 release

2011-05-09 Thread Noel Butler
On Sun, 2011-05-08 at 02:24 -0500, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: Candidate binaries are available from http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ - these do not yet constitute ASF releases. Win32 specific artifacts (x86 binary distribution) will follow shortly; note that -win32-src.zip is generated from

Re: [Vote] httpd 2.2.19 release

2011-05-20 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 12:17 -0500, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: Candidate binaries are available from http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ - these do not yet constitute ASF releases. Win32 -win32-src.zip and the win32-x86 binary distribution will follow shortly, in the next 1.5 hrs. This will be

Re: [VOTE] httpd-2.2.20 tarballs

2011-08-29 Thread Noel Butler
On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 20:19 -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: +1 from me: OSX 10.7.1, Fed14, Ubuntu 10.04 +1 Slackware 13.0, 13.1, and 13.37 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [Vote] httpd 2.2.21 release

2011-09-09 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2011-09-09 at 11:10 -0500, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: Candidate binaries are available from http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ which do not yet constitute ASF releases. win32-x86 binary distribution will follow shortly. This will be a 72 hour vote, which ends no later than Noon ET

Re: announcements

2011-09-12 Thread Noel Butler
On Mon, 2011-09-12 at 12:59 -0700, Luke Meyer wrote: Is anyone planning to announce (i.e. announce@h.a.o): 1. The location of the revised CVE-2011-3192 advisory 2. The availability of new release(s) ? The last thing on that list is the initial advisory, August 24. The last thing that

RE: announcements

2011-09-12 Thread Noel Butler
On Mon, 2011-09-12 at 15:01 -0700, Luke Meyer wrote: From: Noel Butler [mailto:noel.but...@ausics.net] The last thing that needs to be done is make announcement when the mirrors may not have synced, hence Bill's 24 hr mirror clock update time allowance comment, have patience. I

Re: [Discuss] [VOTE] Formal deprecation of 2.0.x branch

2011-11-11 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 14:25 -0600, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 11/11/2011 1:42 PM, Issac Goldstand wrote: -0 I DO want the EOL, but not until after 2.4 has a couple of GAs, if only because folks might not update twice. They've had six years? I'm talking deprecating 2.0, not 2.2,

Re: [Discuss] [VOTE] Formal deprecation of 2.0.x branch

2011-11-12 Thread Noel Butler
On Sat, 2011-11-12 at 07:00 -0600, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 11/11/2011 3:12 PM, Paul Querna wrote: I don't see why we would continue to support 2.0.x for longer than Redhat's already long support cycles. I don't see why we would tie this to RedHat's schedule or any other vendor,

Re: [Vote] .htaccess logic abuse

2011-11-18 Thread Noel Butler
On Sat, 2011-11-19 at 01:46 +0200, Graham Leggett wrote: On 19 Nov 2011, at 12:38 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: After several prods, it seems the security@ and hackathon participants can't be drawn out of their shells on to dev@. So I'll simply call for a majority vote on the

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.10 as GA

2014-07-17 Thread Noel Butler
On 16/07/2014 03:20, Jim Jagielski wrote: The pre-release test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.4.10 can be found at the usual place: http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ I'm calling a VOTE on releasing these as Apache httpd 2.4.10 GA. [ ] +1: Good to go [ ] +0: meh [ ] -1: Danger Will

Re: httpd release version confusion re HTTP Server 2.4.10

2014-07-20 Thread Noel Butler
On 21/07/2014 04:40, olli hauer wrote: On 2014-07-20 19:14, Graham Leggett wrote: On 20 Jul 2014, at 18:03, dev d...@cor0.com wrote: Has 2.4.10 been released or not ? It has been released, but we need to wait for the mirrors to update before formerly announcing the release. Regards,

Re: slight APR Version confusion

2014-07-22 Thread Noel Butler
On 22/07/2014 15:02, dev wrote: I hope this is the right maillist for this sort of question. not really, the users list would be more appropriate and then build httpd after checking a few basic dependencies. Must I unpack the apr and apr-util sources into ./srclib and use

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.11 as GA

2015-01-16 Thread Noel Butler
On 16/01/2015 06:10, Jim Jagielski wrote: The pre-release test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.4.11 can be found at the usual place: http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ [1] I'm calling a VOTE on releasing these as Apache httpd 2.4.11 GA. [ ] +1: Good to go [ ] +0: meh [ ] -1: Danger

Re: AW: Time for 2.4.11

2015-01-15 Thread Noel Butler
On 15/01/2015 20:06, Yann Ylavic wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Yann Ylavic ylavic@gmail.com wrote: There is still missing the ListenCoresBucketsRatio documentation, and I don't think I can do it today, could you? Also, would you share maybe some recommended settings

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.12 as GA

2015-01-26 Thread Noel Butler
Jan 2015 11:23:20 +1000 Noel Butler noel.but...@ausics.net wrote: On 25/01/2015 17:21, Nick Edwards wrote: I am noticing a number of hits using UTC with this version? Not all, only some, is anyone else seeing this? Does not occur on 2.4.10. They are php pages, however, the main site which

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.12 as GA

2015-01-27 Thread Noel Butler
On 28/01/2015 06:41, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: There is a possibility that OP's had actually rebuilt APR (from the -deps), even with the very same APR version, which resulting in some different autoconf detection on their platform relative to time.h function handling. It would be worth

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.12 as GA

2015-01-26 Thread Noel Butler
On 27/01/2015 03:21, Rainer Jung wrote: Am 26.01.2015 um 14:14 schrieb Eric Covener: On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 8:08 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: svn diff https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/httpd/httpd/tags/2.4.11 [1] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/httpd/httpd/tags/2.4.12 [2]

Re: Apache 2.4 adoption revisited -- now 16.4% of Apache sites

2015-03-12 Thread Noel Butler
On 13/03/2015 02:54, Eric Covener wrote: I stumbled on this link that Bill had shared previously and went back to look at previous snapshots: March 2014: 2.0: 4.1%, 2.4: 4.3% http://web.archive.org/web/20140327151641/http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/ws-apache/2/all [1]

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.12 as GA

2015-01-23 Thread Noel Butler
On 24/01/2015 00:56, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Jan 22, 2015, at 1:54 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: The pre-release test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.4.12 can be found at the usual place: http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ [1] I'm calling a VOTE on releasing these as Apache

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.12 as GA

2015-01-25 Thread Noel Butler
On 25/01/2015 17:21, Nick Edwards wrote: I am noticing a number of hits using UTC with this version? Not all, only some, is anyone else seeing this? Does not occur on 2.4.10. They are php pages, however, the main site which is php is static, it only uses php for counter nothing else, its

Re: SSL/TLS best current practice

2015-05-06 Thread Noel Butler
On 07/05/2015 09:22, William A Rowe Jr wrote: For trunk, I propose we drop TLSv1 and TLSv1.1 protocols and simply adopt the recommended cipher list illustrated below (!SSLv3) in the default extra/httpd-ssl.conf source, following the SHOULD recommendations. unless trunk is for the 2.6

Re: SSL/TLS best current practice

2015-05-10 Thread Noel Butler
Thanks Christian. On 11/05/2015 01:57, Christian Seiler wrote: On 05/10/2015 03:26 AM, Noel Butler wrote: Can any SUSE and debian users confirm the current supported stable release supports 1.2? Currently, three Debian releases are still supported: - Debian Jessie (current

Re: SSL/TLS best current practice

2015-05-09 Thread Noel Butler
On 07/05/2015 12:17, William A Rowe Jr wrote: On May 6, 2015 9:09 PM, William A Rowe Jr wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: On May 6, 2015 8:12 PM, Noel Butler noel.but...@ausics.net wrote: On 07/05/2015 09:22, William A Rowe Jr wrote: For trunk, I propose we drop TLSv1 and TLSv1.1

Re: SSL/TLS best current practice

2015-05-09 Thread Noel Butler
On 10/05/2015 11:08, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 10.05.2015 um 03:02 schrieb Noel Butler: Either way, using slackware on all my servers its trivial since the distro keeps pretty much up to date by design -⁠ unlike RH/⁠debian and their kiddy versions who bring out new releases with 2+yo

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.13 as GA

2015-06-04 Thread Noel Butler
On 05/06/2015 02:33, Jim Jagielski wrote: The pre-release test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.4.13 can be found at the usual place: http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ [1] I'm calling a VOTE on releasing these as Apache httpd 2.4.13 GA. [ ] +1: Good to go [ ] +0: meh [ ] -1: Danger

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.15 as GA

2015-06-20 Thread Noel Butler
On 20/06/2015 02:50, Jim Jagielski wrote: I'm calling a VOTE on releasing these as Apache httpd 2.4.15 GA. using included apr 1.5.2 and apr-util 1.5.4 and with mysql (mariadb) +1 Slackware 13.1 - 14.1 PS: Hopefully, 3rd time's the charm! :)

Re: SSLCertificateChainFile deprecation, still

2015-06-14 Thread Noel Butler
On 15/06/2015 07:56, Yann Ylavic wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Gregg Smith g...@gknw.net wrote: http://people.apache.org/~gsmith/proposal/sslcertificatechainfile_compromise.diff [1] I'm fine with this approach too. We have to decide whether a single [warn] is acceptable

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.14 as GA

2015-06-11 Thread Noel Butler
On 12/06/2015 00:08, Jim Jagielski wrote: I'm calling a VOTE on releasing these as Apache httpd 2.4.14 GA. [ ] +1: Good to go [ ] +0: meh [ ] -1: Danger Will Robinson. And why. -1 The SSLCertificateChainFile directive () is deprecated, SSLCertificateFile should be used instead The

Re: Ad-hominem [was: [VOTE] Simplified 2.2.x EOL Decision]

2015-05-28 Thread Noel Butler
On 28/05/2015 17:59, William A Rowe Jr wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:48 AM, Noel Butler noel.but...@ausics.net wrote: On 28/05/2015 14:48, William A Rowe Jr wrote: Enough of this ad-hominem BS... [...] You've lost the argument and lost respect, you have demonstrated

Re: [VOTE] Simplified 2.2.x EOL Decision

2015-05-28 Thread Noel Butler
On 28/05/2015 14:48, William A Rowe Jr wrote: Enough of this ad-hominem BS... this is in fact a majority rule decision (it is a vote not on code but on procedure), and is binding on the project as a whole. I don't want to discuss this again for six months and I'm not keen on the smug

Re: 2.2 and 2.4 and 2.6/3.0

2015-05-27 Thread Noel Butler
On 28/05/2015 07:38, olli hauer wrote: - for long time there was no working mod_php module for 2.4, and changing to php-fpm was not for everyone a solution. huh? I personally since dawn of the httpd/php love have always only ever used mod_php and at no time did I have a a non usable

Re: 2.2 and 2.4 and 2.6/3.0

2015-05-27 Thread Noel Butler
On 28/05/2015 03:17, Jim Jagielski wrote: No need to go off... 2.2 has been out for almost 10 years. 2.4 for a bit over 3. That is a LONG time. I'm simply *suggesting* (no BDFL posturing Mr. Rowe) that after 10 years, maybe it's time to say that 2.2's era is done, and 2.4's time is here,

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.16 as GA

2015-07-13 Thread Noel Butler
On 11/07/2015 06:33, Jim Jagielski wrote: The pre-release test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.4.16 can be found at the usual place: http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ [1] I'm calling a VOTE on releasing these as Apache httpd 2.4.16 GA. [ ] +1: Good to go [ ] +0: meh [ ] -1: Danger

Re: 2.4.18?

2015-11-17 Thread Noel Butler
On 17/11/2015 19:24, Graham Leggett wrote: On 17 Nov 2015, at 07:13, Noel Butler <noel.but...@ausics.net> wrote: ??? We only had 2.4.17 5 weeks ago, why the rush? We have improvements, why make people wait? Regards, Graham -- You run into complacency dangers if you end up in a &q

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