Re: 答复: [DISCUSS] Renaming Mesos Slave

2015-06-05 Thread Adam Bordelon
...@gmail.com] *发送时间:* 2015年6月5日 10:40 *收件人:* u...@mesos.apache.org *主题:* Re: [DISCUSS] Renaming Mesos Slave +1 master/slave, no change needed. 2015-06-05 0:10 GMT+08:00 Ankur Chauhan an...@malloc64.com: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 +1 master/slave James made some very good

Re: [DISCUSS] Renaming Mesos Slave

2015-06-04 Thread James DeFelice
-1 master/worker -1 master/agent -1 leader/follower +1 master/slave; no change needed There's no technical benefit **at all** to a terminology change at this point. If people want to change the names in their client presentations that's fine. Master/slave conveys specific meaning that is lost

Re: [DISCUSS] Renaming Mesos Slave

2015-06-04 Thread Till Toenshoff
1. Mesos Worker [node/host/machine] 2. Mesos Worker [process] 3. No, master/worker seems to address the issue with less changes. 4. Begin using the new name ASAP, add a disambiguation to the docs, and change old references over time. Fixing the official name, even before changes are in

RE: [DISCUSS] Renaming Mesos Slave

2015-06-04 Thread Aaron Carey
: dev Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Renaming Mesos Slave Strong -1 for changing the name (either master or slave). From a community stand point, if dev resources are diverted to renaming efforts, then the community and the user base both lose meaningful functionality that isn't being worked on. From

Re: [DISCUSS] Renaming Mesos Slave

2015-06-03 Thread Steven Borrelli
+1 I’d like to voice my support for removing the master/slave nomenclature. It’s our policy at aster.is that we don’t use that terminology in our projects or presentations. Currently we use ‘leader/follower’, but we are open to using whatever terms the community comes up with. We’re also

Re: [DISCUSS] Renaming Mesos Slave

2015-06-03 Thread Steven Borrelli
+1 I’d like to voice my support for removing the master/slave nomenclature. It’s our policy at aster.is http://aster.is/ that we don’t use that terminology in our projects or presentations. Currently we use ‘leader/follower’, but we are open to using whatever terms the community comes up

Re: [DISCUSS] Renaming Mesos Slave

2015-06-03 Thread Diego Medina
+1 for Brian Hicks' leader/follower name and a huge +1 for the explanation he gave On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Brian Hicks br...@brianthicks.com wrote: 1. We’ve been aliasing everything to “leader/follower” in the projects I’m a part of. I think it gets rid of the problematic language

Re: [DISCUSS] Renaming Mesos Slave

2015-06-03 Thread Elizabeth Lingg
1. Mesos worker 2. Mesos worker 3. No 4. Documentation should first be changed Thanks, Elizabeth On Monday, June 1, 2015, Adam Bordelon a...@mesosphere.io wrote: There has been much discussion about finding a less offensive name than Slave, and many of these thoughts have been captured in

Re: [DISCUSS] Renaming Mesos Slave

2015-06-03 Thread Dave Lester
Hi Jie, I understand your concern here, but within Apache projects, organizations do not have a voice/vote -- people do. I think should take into strong consideration the overhead any change may have on any adopter/organization and discuss those risks and problems openly, but ideally this

Re: [DISCUSS] Renaming Mesos Slave

2015-06-03 Thread Jie Yu
Adam, If a vote is called out, how do we decide if it passes or not. Will that be the same of voting for a release (i.e., PMC member can veto it)? I would imagine that some PMC members might want to express some negative feedbacks on this, but certainly do not want to veto it. How do we deal

Re: [DISCUSS] Renaming Mesos Slave

2015-06-03 Thread Jie Yu
Dave, I am not saying that we should make the decision solely based on organization votes. This is just an extra input we can use while making the decision. By looking at the threads, looks like we don't have a community consensus here. Then the question is: how do we make a *better* decision

Re: [DISCUSS] Renaming Mesos Slave

2015-06-03 Thread Benjamin Staffin
1. Mesos Worker (or just Mesos node) 2. Mesos Worker 3. No, but if we do then Leader or Director or Controller 4. Deprecation cycle, documentation, etc. Provide aliases for a release or two. Thanks for raising this topic; it's been on my mind for a while. As for why I think this matters:

Re: [DISCUSS] Renaming Mesos Slave

2015-06-03 Thread Itamar Ostricher
Strong -1 for changing the name (either master or slave). From a community stand point, if dev resources are diverted to renaming efforts, then the community and the user base both lose meaningful functionality that isn't being worked on. From a using organization stand point, as well as

Re: [DISCUSS] Renaming Mesos Slave

2015-06-02 Thread Vetoshkin Nikita
1) Mesos Agent maybe? Agent (in law e.g.) is someone acting on behalf of other person. That is right what we have, mesos-slave isn't a worker and shouldn't be - it should let others work. 2) mesos-agent Although I personally like Google terminology - Borg master and borglet, Omega master and

Re: [DISCUSS] Renaming Mesos Slave

2015-06-02 Thread Chris Aniszczyk
1) Mesos Worker 2) Mesos Worker 3) no, I'm OK with Mesos Master 4) announce the change as part of a new release and deprecate the old names publicly; this may also be a good time to consider crafting an official deprecation policy for the project so we're transparent with how deprecation will work

Re: [DISCUSS] Renaming Mesos Slave

2015-06-02 Thread Connor Doyle
+1 1. Mesos Worker [node/host/machine] 2. Mesos Worker [process] 3. No, master/worker seems to address the issue with less changes. 4. Begin using the new name ASAP, add a disambiguation to the docs, and change old references over time. Fixing the official name, even before changes are in

Re: [DISCUSS] Renaming Mesos Slave

2015-06-02 Thread Jeff Schroeder
My (very personal) thought here is that we should ensure a vocal minority is not changing things for the sake of changing it. What is the industry standard here? Are potential users actually refusing to use mesos due to the terminology which is unfortunately very prevalent in the client/server

[DISCUSS] Renaming Mesos Slave

2015-06-01 Thread Adam Bordelon
There has been much discussion about finding a less offensive name than Slave, and many of these thoughts have been captured in https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-1478 I would like to open up the discussion on this topic for one week, and if we cannot arrive at a lazy consensus, I will