Re: Oracle will remove JavaFX from Oracle JDK (was: Re: Noticed Oracle is Working to Remove Java FX, AWT, and Swing from Base Java/JDK)

2018-03-12 Thread Chuck Davis
If I understood the message of the white paper NB will have to be distributed through MS and Apple's app stores (I have no idea what the process for getting their approval or the cost of doing that may be) and that it will have to be shipped as a containerized application that includes the jdk.

Re: Oracle will remove JavaFX from Oracle JDK (was: Re: Noticed Oracle is Working to Remove Java FX, AWT, and Swing from Base Java/JDK)

2018-03-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Yeah, there’s never a reason to panic about this, it’s all good and how things actually work out is unknown. You’ll see organizations popping up that will take over the work, which is already the case with Gluon in relation to JavaFX, for example. Gj On Monday, March 12, 2018, Wade Chandler

Re: Oracle will remove JavaFX from Oracle JDK (was: Re: Noticed Oracle is Working to Remove Java FX, AWT, and Swing from Base Java/JDK)

2018-03-11 Thread Wade Chandler
On Mar 11, 2018, at 7:38 PM, Chuck Davis wrote: > > That white paper says to me jdk11 is the end of the road for JSE at > Oracle. Without Swing/JavaFX I can't think of a single reason to have JSE > on a computer. Maybe, but all the more reason for the stewards they mention.

Re: Oracle will remove JavaFX from Oracle JDK (was: Re: Noticed Oracle is Working to Remove Java FX, AWT, and Swing from Base Java/JDK)

2018-03-11 Thread Chuck Davis
That white paper says to me jdk11 is the end of the road for JSE at Oracle. Without Swing/JavaFX I can't think of a single reason to have JSE on a computer. The message of the white paper was clear: both Apple and Microsoft own their platforms and the day is not too distant when both will

Re: Oracle will remove JavaFX from Oracle JDK (was: Re: Noticed Oracle is Working to Remove Java FX, AWT, and Swing from Base Java/JDK)

2018-03-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Well, it's clear Gluon is involved, for example. Gj On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 5:15 PM, Emilian Bold wrote: > >> "Oracle has begun conversations with interested parties in the Java > >> ecosystem on the stewardship of JavaFX, Swing and AWT beyond the above > >>

Re: Oracle will remove JavaFX from Oracle JDK (was: Re: Noticed Oracle is Working to Remove Java FX, AWT, and Swing from Base Java/JDK)

2018-03-11 Thread Emilian Bold
>> "Oracle has begun conversations with interested parties in the Java >> ecosystem on the stewardship of JavaFX, Swing and AWT beyond the above >> referenced timeframes." > Does anyone know Who? How? Terms? Or, how can we get involved? Yes, I sure hope Apache is involved. --emi ‐‐‐

Re: Oracle will remove JavaFX from Oracle JDK (was: Re: Noticed Oracle is Working to Remove Java FX, AWT, and Swing from Base Java/JDK)

2018-03-10 Thread John Muczynski
Is Swing not part of OpenJDK? Or is the work about "updating Swing for new versions of operating systems" the issue at hand? -- Johnny Muczynski 734-262-2045 On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 12:50 AM Wade Chandler wrote: > On Mar 9, 2018 18:16, "Neil C Smith"

Re: Oracle will remove JavaFX from Oracle JDK (was: Re: Noticed Oracle is Working to Remove Java FX, AWT, and Swing from Base Java/JDK)

2018-03-09 Thread Wade Chandler
On Mar 9, 2018 18:16, "Neil C Smith" wrote: On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 at 22:31 Matthias Bläsing wrote: > Oracle is still committed to Swing and AWT to at least 2026. There is > no mention of removing it. > > So we should keep calm. > Calm is good :-)

Re: Oracle will remove JavaFX from Oracle JDK (was: Re: Noticed Oracle is Working to Remove Java FX, AWT, and Swing from Base Java/JDK)

2018-03-09 Thread Ryan Cuprak
I published a blog entry on my take on the announcement: https://cuprak.info/2018/03/08/javafx-thoughts/ -Ryan > On Mar 9, 2018, at 6:16 PM, Neil C Smith wrote: > > On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 at 22:31 Matthias Bläsing

Re: Oracle will remove JavaFX from Oracle JDK (was: Re: Noticed Oracle is Working to Remove Java FX, AWT, and Swing from Base Java/JDK)

2018-03-09 Thread Neil C Smith
On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 at 22:31 Matthias Bläsing wrote: > Oracle is still committed to Swing and AWT to at least 2026. There is > no mention of removing it. > > So we should keep calm. > Calm is good :-) Still, that particular date is just talking about the end of

Oracle will remove JavaFX from Oracle JDK (was: Re: Noticed Oracle is Working to Remove Java FX, AWT, and Swing from Base Java/JDK)

2018-03-09 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hey, I corrected the subject. Am Freitag, den 09.03.2018, 16:44 -0500 schrieb Wade Chandler: > > Sorry if a thread I have missed on this exists here. A friend of mine sent > me this link > > http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/javaclientroadmapupdate2018mar-4414431.pdf Short summary

Re: Noticed Oracle is Working to Remove Java FX, AWT, and Swing from Base Java/JDK

2018-03-09 Thread cowwoc
On page 7 they claim that AWS/Swing support will not be touched (at least until Java 11). It seems only JavaFX is directly affected. Gili On 2018-03-09 4:44 PM, Wade Chandler wrote: All Sorry if a thread I have missed on this exists here. A friend of mine sent me this link

Re: Noticed Oracle is Working to Remove Java FX, AWT, and Swing from Base Java/JDK

2018-03-09 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Here's a direct quote from your link: "Swing and AWT will continue to be supported on Java SE 8 through at least March 2025, and on Java SE 11 (18.9 LTS) through at least September 2026." Gj On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 10:44 PM, Wade Chandler wrote: > All > > Sorry if a

Noticed Oracle is Working to Remove Java FX, AWT, and Swing from Base Java/JDK

2018-03-09 Thread Wade Chandler
All Sorry if a thread I have missed on this exists here. A friend of mine sent me this link http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/javaclientroadmapupdate2018mar-4414431.pdf It has interesting consequences for NetBeans. It mentions they have some interested parties looking to take on