Is Swing not part of OpenJDK? Or is the work about "updating Swing for new versions of operating systems" the issue at hand?
-- Johnny Muczynski 734-262-2045 On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 12:50 AM Wade Chandler <wadechand...@apache.org> wrote: > On Mar 9, 2018 18:16, "Neil C Smith" <neilcsm...@apache.org> wrote: > > On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 at 22:31 Matthias Bläsing <mblaes...@doppel-helix.eu> > wrote: > > > Oracle is still committed to Swing and AWT to at least 2026. There is > > no mention of removing it. > > > > So we should keep calm. > > > > Calm is good :-) > > Still, that particular date is just talking about the end of commercial > support for Java SE 11 isn't it? Unless I missed something, there isn't > anything about what happens in Java SE 12, which is only ~12 months away. > > > Exactly, and my original email didn't suggest freaking out. It did suggest > we need to be aware of what this means, and decide how to make sure we can > support "the" core dependency besides Java at this point. Does it mean > other tech, or does it mean getting more involved? > > At a minimum the messaging for FX is that it didn't take off, and it has a > niche following, and mobile first and web technology has offset its > original goals. > > Given that, other than some developer tools and "niche" applications, who > is using Swing? It's a rhetorical question. > > Many today, I suppose most, think apps should be mobile or web, and unless > in the various markets, that have value for applications which aren't web > applications, but not as consumer visible, would think such things are > niche, even though that's a pretty big niche, and apparently an oxymoron, > if one takes the different technologies used to build installed desktop > apps including Qt, .Net, Electron (Slack or VS Code anyone), Natives, > Eclipse, others, and of course Swing (NB RCP) and Java FX along with their > domains/applicable use cases. > > Maybe nothing near term to worry about, but I think without other > involvement, AWT & Swing are being looked at for something. This is also in > that document: > > "Oracle has begun conversations with interested parties in the Java > ecosystem on the stewardship of JavaFX, Swing and AWT beyond the above > referenced timeframes." > > Does anyone know Who? How? Terms? Or, how can we get involved? > > Thanks > > Wade >
