Re: Framework Independence

2010-12-27 Thread Adrian Crum
The security-related UI artifacts have been moved to the common component and the Web Tools app now has a security UI in rev 1053259. The Party Manager Security tab duplicates the new Web Tools screens, and it is redundant - but I left it in there. It might be eligible for removal. I also left

Re: Framework Independence

2010-12-23 Thread Adrian Crum
I ended up parameterizing the form's target attribute to get the results I needed. I will be offline for the holiday, then I will resume work on this next week. -Adrian On 12/21/2010 12:35 PM, Adrian Crum wrote: I am nearly finished with the security UI artifacts move. I have one issue prev

Re: Framework Independence

2010-12-21 Thread Adrian Crum
I have looked at a number of existing examples, but I still don't know how it works or what I need to do to solve my problem. -Adrian On 12/21/2010 1:18 PM, Bruno Busco wrote: Hi Adrian, did you look into portla-controller.xml ? I used several save-last-view there. -Bruno 2010/12/21 Adrian C

Re: Framework Independence

2010-12-21 Thread Bruno Busco
Hi Adrian, did you look into portla-controller.xml ? I used several save-last-view there. -Bruno 2010/12/21 Adrian Crum > I am nearly finished with the security UI artifacts move. I have one issue > preventing me from finishing it and I need some help from the community. > > The updated code ha

Re: Framework Independence

2010-12-21 Thread Adrian Crum
I am nearly finished with the security UI artifacts move. I have one issue preventing me from finishing it and I need some help from the community. The updated code has Party Manager reusing security screens and forms from the common component. It all works great with a few exceptions. The us

Re: Framework Independence

2010-12-18 Thread Bruno Busco
Great! ;-) 2010/12/18 Adrian Crum > I will be working on that today. > > -Adrian > > --- On Sat, 12/18/10, Jacopo Cappellato > wrote: > > IMO the best way to go at this point > > is to move the ui for the administration of user logins and > > permissions from the party to the webtools web appli

Re: Framework Independence

2010-12-18 Thread Adrian Crum
I will be working on that today. -Adrian --- On Sat, 12/18/10, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: > IMO the best way to go at this point > is to move the ui for the administration of user logins and > permissions from the party to the webtools web application. > In this way, in a framework only setup, we

Re: Framework Independence

2010-12-18 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
IMO the best way to go at this point is to move the ui for the administration of user logins and permissions from the party to the webtools web application. In this way, in a framework only setup, we will have some screens to create new user accounts and administer them. I don't think that we hav

Re: Framework Independence

2010-12-18 Thread Bruno Busco
By clicking on the party's name in the header the user is directed to this screen: https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/partymgr/control/viewprofile?partyId=admin Here there are lots of links and information related to all kind of things: orders, invoices, visits etc. In a framework-only installati

Re: Framework Independence

2010-12-15 Thread David E Jones
Not really BJ, there is a consensus on making the framework more (or totally) independent from the applications and specialpurpose components. The only question is the best way to do that, and it looks like as far as a general approach goes (moving minimal needed parts from application componen

Re: Framework Independence

2010-12-15 Thread David E Jones
I agree this is the way to go. Certain parts of certain application components should have been in the framework from the beginning, but certainly not all of them. Splitting out those specific parts and putting them in framework components as needed is the way to go. -David On Dec 15, 2010,

Re: Framework Independence

2010-12-15 Thread BJ Freeman
the pattern of having the entities and services specific to a component will be broken. so a test file in each folder about were the entities and services are should be included. you can take the webapp/content/docbooks and put in common since it is standalone engine for created docbooks outpu

Re: Framework Independence

2010-12-15 Thread Nicolas Malin
I agree. It possible to split content to framework component and keep functionnal on application but I think this operation It's not easy and I haven't suggest how do this. Nicolas Le 15/12/2010 20:15, Adrian Crum a écrit : At first glance it looks that way. All we really need in the framework

Re: Framework Independence

2010-12-15 Thread Scott Gray
I'm guessing you'd also need ContentWorker and DataResourceWorker. Regards Scott On 16/12/2010, at 8:15 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: > At first glance it looks that way. All we really need in the framework are > the content entities and their CRUD services. > > -Adrian > > On 12/15/2010 11:04 AM, S

Re: Framework Independence

2010-12-15 Thread Adrian Crum
At first glance it looks that way. All we really need in the framework are the content entities and their CRUD services. -Adrian On 12/15/2010 11:04 AM, Scott Gray wrote: I really think you'd need to split the content component into two, simply moving it to the framework would probably introd

Re: Framework Independence

2010-12-15 Thread Scott Gray
I really think you'd need to split the content component into two, simply moving it to the framework would probably introduce a whole other set of dependencies to deal with. Regards Scott HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com On 16/12/2010, at 7:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: > To clarify, I'm t

Re: Framework Independence

2010-12-15 Thread BJ Freeman
I don't think you will find a consensus so just need to branch your own frame work as I did. = BJ Freeman Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation Specialtymarket.com

Re: Framework Independence

2010-12-15 Thread Adrian Crum
To clarify, I'm trying to get the components in the framework folder to run by themselves - without the components found in the applications folder. Some of the framework components have UIs. I understand everyone has a different opinion on what constitutes a framework, so I don't want to reha

Re: Framework Independence

2010-12-15 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
On Dec 15, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Adrian Crum wrote: > I'm working on a project that requires only the OFBiz framework. I'm trying > to get a framework-only installation to run. > > There are a lot of dependencies on the party and content components. Removing > dependencies on the party component sh

Re: Framework Independence

2010-12-15 Thread BJ Freeman
first question is should there be any UI activity at the framework level. Should not it just be the support to allow a UI system to put installed. when I mean UI I am talking about any interaction to the user. = BJ Freeman Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation

Framework Independence

2010-12-15 Thread Adrian Crum
I'm working on a project that requires only the OFBiz framework. I'm trying to get a framework-only installation to run. There are a lot of dependencies on the party and content components. Removing dependencies on the party component should be fairly easy. The online help system uses the cont

Re: What is ofbiz? was Re: first steps to framework independence! vote here!

2010-02-27 Thread Adam Heath
David E Jones wrote: > Thanks for this Adam. These are great points maven versus ant. It may be possible to do what I want with maven. But the fact that in *all* cases where I have had the horror of seeing maven used by a project, they have *all* been network based, required maven installed in th

Re: What is ofbiz? was Re: first steps to framework independence! vote here!

2010-02-27 Thread Christopher Snow
Please excuse my ignorance... If the ofbiz src tree was split up into new svn projects (e.g. entity engine, service engine, etc) , would ant be able to easily manage the dependencies between each project? If maven doesn't do the job of managing dependencies very well, what about ivy? Many

Re: What is ofbiz? was Re: first steps to framework independence! vote here!

2010-02-27 Thread David E Jones
Thanks for this Adam. These are great points maven versus ant. -David On Feb 27, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Adam Heath wrote: > Christopher Snow wrote: >> Hi Adam, >> >> What would be your preferred tool for managing the builds if we made >> ofbiz more modular? > > Must be stand-alone. Can't depend

Re: What is ofbiz? was Re: first steps to framework independence! vote here!

2010-02-27 Thread Adam Heath
Christopher Snow wrote: > Hi Adam, do you know of any tools available that meet these requirements? Um, I may be going out on a limb here, but ant? > > Adam Heath wrote: >> Christopher Snow wrote: >> >>> Hi Adam, >>> >>> What would be your preferred tool for managing the builds if we made >>> o

Re: What is ofbiz? was Re: first steps to framework independence! vote here!

2010-02-27 Thread Christopher Snow
Hi Adam, do you know of any tools available that meet these requirements? Adam Heath wrote: Christopher Snow wrote: Hi Adam, What would be your preferred tool for managing the builds if we made ofbiz more modular? Must be stand-alone. Can't depend on anything from the network. Netw

Re: What is ofbiz? was Re: first steps to framework independence! vote here!

2010-02-27 Thread Adam Heath
Christopher Snow wrote: > Hi Adam, > > What would be your preferred tool for managing the builds if we made > ofbiz more modular? Must be stand-alone. Can't depend on anything from the network. Network resources may not be available in all cases. Plus, network resources can become stale, and g

Re: What is ofbiz? was Re: first steps to framework independence! vote here!

2010-02-27 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
On Feb 26, 2010, at 10:47 PM, Bruno Busco wrote: > This is what I am also trying to do. > Just have the possibility to *remove* all the applications but party > and content from an OFBiz installation and have it working. I think this has to be done into two separate and independent steps: 1) fram

Re: first steps to framework independence! vote here!

2010-02-27 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
>>>>> On 26/02/2010, at 12:22 PM, Christopher Snow wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Bruno's question: >>>>>> >>>>>> "So could we please review the patc

Re: What is ofbiz? was Re: first steps to framework independence! vote here!

2010-02-27 Thread Christopher Snow
Hi Adam, What would be your preferred tool for managing the builds if we made ofbiz more modular? Many thanks, Chris Adam Heath wrote: Christopher Snow wrote: Hi Adam, I too would like to see a more modular ofbiz (e.g. maven + osgi), but that is a big step. For example, it would be gr

Re: What is ofbiz? was Re: first steps to framework independence! vote here!

2010-02-26 Thread Adam Heath
Christopher Snow wrote: > Hi Adam, > > I too would like to see a more modular ofbiz (e.g. maven + osgi), but > that is a big step. For example, it would be great if people wanting to > use just the entity engine could just download the entity engine jars > and be up and running. Ew! You said th

Re: What is ofbiz? was Re: first steps to framework independence! vote here!

2010-02-26 Thread Christopher Snow
Hi Adam, I too would like to see a more modular ofbiz (e.g. maven + osgi), but that is a big step. For example, it would be great if people wanting to use just the entity engine could just download the entity engine jars and be up and running. However, what Bruno and I are proposing is just

Re: What is ofbiz? was Re: first steps to framework independence! vote here!

2010-02-26 Thread Adam Heath
Adam Heath wrote: > Bruno Busco wrote: >> This is what I am also trying to do. >> Just have the possibility to *remove* all the applications but party >> and content from an OFBiz installation and have it working. >> Please stop thinking about moving things in or out of the framework. >> >> The fra

Re: What is ofbiz? was Re: first steps to framework independence! vote here!

2010-02-26 Thread Adam Heath
Bruno Busco wrote: > This is what I am also trying to do. > Just have the possibility to *remove* all the applications but party > and content from an OFBiz installation and have it working. > Please stop thinking about moving things in or out of the framework. > > The framework, if you like how i

Re: What is ofbiz? was Re: first steps to framework independence! vote here!

2010-02-26 Thread Bruno Busco
This is what I am also trying to do. Just have the possibility to *remove* all the applications but party and content from an OFBiz installation and have it working. Please stop thinking about moving things in or out of the framework. The framework, if you like how it is right now, can stay there

Re: first steps to framework independence! vote here!

2010-02-26 Thread BJ Freeman
;> >>>>> HotWax Media >>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>>>> >>>>> On 26/02/2010, at 12:22 PM, Christopher Snow wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Bruno's question: >

Re: first steps to framework independence! vote here!

2010-02-26 Thread Ruth Hoffman
are you requesting that people vote on? Regards Scott HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com On 26/02/2010, at 12:15 PM, Christopher Snow wrote: Bruno has a patch that will allow us to run ofbiz standalone - without breaking anything! This is a small but important step towards

Re: first steps to framework independence! vote here!

2010-02-26 Thread Adam Heath
Christopher Snow wrote: > Hi Anil, > > I believe a standalone application development framework should have all > the functionality a developer needs to create an application, i.e. > > - persistence > - services > - presentation tier > - reporting > - help > - security management > - job schedule

What is ofbiz? was Re: first steps to framework independence! vote here!

2010-02-26 Thread Adam Heath
You haven't gone far enough. Stop thinking about just what you want. Or just what Bruno wants. Or what the guy from Timbuktu wants. Think about what we all want. Namely, the ability to pick and choose the parts of ofbiz that we want to make use of. Arbitrary assignments of components into pa

Re: first steps to framework independence! vote here!

2010-02-26 Thread Anil Patel
;> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> Scott >>>>>> >>>>>> HotWax Media >>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>>>>> >>>>>> On 26/02/2010, at 12:22 PM, Christopher Snow wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Bruno's question: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "So could we please review the patch? >>>>>>> Does it make sense?" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If there are no major objections, then I guess he will commit it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Scott Gray wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What exactly are you requesting that people vote on? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> Scott >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> HotWax Media >>>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 26/02/2010, at 12:15 PM, Christopher Snow wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bruno has a patch that will allow us to run ofbiz standalone - >>>>>>>>> without breaking anything! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This is a small but important step towards framework independence... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3505 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Many thanks in advance, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> >> >

Re: first steps to framework independence! vote here!

2010-02-26 Thread Christopher Snow
you requesting that people vote on? Regards Scott HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com On 26/02/2010, at 12:15 PM, Christopher Snow wrote: Bruno has a patch that will allow us to run ofbiz standalone - without breaking anything! This is a small but

Re: first steps to framework independence! vote here!

2010-02-26 Thread Anil Patel
quot;So could we please review the patch? >>>>> Does it make sense?" >>>>> >>>>> If there are no major objections, then I guess he will commit it? >>>>> >>>>> Scott Gray wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> What exactly are you requesting that people vote on? >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Scott >>>>>> >>>>>> HotWax Media >>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>>>>> >>>>>> On 26/02/2010, at 12:15 PM, Christopher Snow wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Bruno has a patch that will allow us to run ofbiz standalone - without >>>>>>> breaking anything! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is a small but important step towards framework independence... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3505 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Many thanks in advance, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> >> >

Re: first steps to framework independence! vote here!

2010-02-26 Thread Christopher Snow
This is a small but important step towards framework independence... https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3505 Many thanks in advance, Chris

Re: first steps to framework independence! vote here!

2010-02-26 Thread Christopher Snow
This is a small but important step towards framework independence... https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3505 Many thanks in advance, Chris

Re: first steps to framework independence! vote here!

2010-02-26 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
ll commit it? >>>> >>>> Scott Gray wrote: >>>> >>>>> What exactly are you requesting that people vote on? >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Scott >>>>> >>>>> HotWax Media >>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>>>> >>>>> On 26/02/2010, at 12:15 PM, Christopher Snow wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Bruno has a patch that will allow us to run ofbiz standalone - without >>>>>> breaking anything! >>>>>> >>>>>> This is a small but important step towards framework independence... >>>>>> >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3505 >>>>>> >>>>>> Many thanks in advance, >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >> >

Re: first steps to framework independence! vote here!

2010-02-26 Thread Anil Patel
;>>> What exactly are you requesting that people vote on? >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> HotWax Media >>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>>> >>>> On 26/02/2010, at 12:15 PM, Christopher Snow wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Bruno has a patch that will allow us to run ofbiz standalone - without >>>>> breaking anything! >>>>> >>>>> This is a small but important step towards framework independence... >>>>> >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3505 >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks in advance, >>>>> >>>>> Chris >>>>> >>>> >> >> >

Re: first steps to framework independence! vote here!

2010-02-26 Thread Scott Gray
tt >>>> >>>> HotWax Media >>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>>> >>>> On 26/02/2010, at 12:15 PM, Christopher Snow wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Bruno has a patch that will allow us to run ofbiz standalone - without >>>>> breaking anything! >>>>> >>>>> This is a small but important step towards framework independence... >>>>> >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3505 >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks in advance, >>>>> >>>>> Chris >>>>> >>>> >> >> > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: first steps to framework independence! vote here!

2010-02-26 Thread Christopher Snow
dalone - without breaking anything! This is a small but important step towards framework independence... https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3505 Many thanks in advance, Chris

Re: first steps to framework independence! vote here!

2010-02-26 Thread Scott Gray
w us to run ofbiz standalone - without >>> breaking anything! >>> >>> This is a small but important step towards framework independence... >>> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3505 >>> >>> Many thanks in advance, >>> >>> Chris >>> >> >> > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: first steps to framework independence! vote here!

2010-02-26 Thread Adam Heath
Christopher Snow wrote: > Bruno's question: > > "So could we please review the patch? > Does it make sense?" > > If there are no major objections, then I guess he will commit it? See my comments in the issue.

Re: first steps to framework independence! vote here!

2010-02-26 Thread Christopher Snow
/02/2010, at 12:15 PM, Christopher Snow wrote: Bruno has a patch that will allow us to run ofbiz standalone - without breaking anything! This is a small but important step towards framework independence... https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3505 Many thanks in advance, Chris

Re: first steps to framework independence! vote here!

2010-02-26 Thread Scott Gray
portant step towards framework independence... > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3505 > > Many thanks in advance, > > Chris smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

first steps to framework independence! vote here!

2010-02-26 Thread Christopher Snow
Bruno has a patch that will allow us to run ofbiz standalone - without breaking anything! This is a small but important step towards framework independence... https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3505 Many thanks in advance, Chris