Join OpenOffice at ApacheCon North America!

2013-02-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Forwarding a message from the ApacheCon NA organizers. See http://na.apachecon.com/ for details. To those going to attend: you may also consider to join some informal activities, see http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/HackathonNA13 and http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/BarCampApachePortland

Re: Case Study on Open Office

2013-02-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 03/02/2013 Ryan, Benjamin wrote: 1. Identify the software development approaches used in the development of the Software? e.g Open office What software development approaches were used eg Structured(top-down) prototyping,RAD or Agile I have little to add to what Rob already answered.

Re: which version to use

2013-02-09 Thread Shenfeng Liu
Galileo, 3.4.1 is the most recent version. You can download it from here: http://www.openoffice.org/download/ - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/2/3 Galileo Teco Juárez genital...@gmail.com hi I volunter I volunteer I begin to understand the development of extensions I have a question. which is

Re: Draft blog post: $21 million per day

2013-02-09 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Sally Khudairi sallykhuda...@yahoo.com wrote: Rob, et.al. --is there a preferred day/time you'd like to go live with this? Given that you, Don, and I all live in the snow-socked East Coast, should we give ourselves some blizzard recovery time or just go ahead

Re: Will AOO write .docx?

2013-02-09 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi, Jürgen Schmidt schrieb: On 2/7/13 9:44 PM, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Andrea, Andrea Pescetti schrieb: On 01/02/2013 David Gerard wrote: Is .docx writing scheduled for AOO any given time, 4.0 or later? I expect that sooner or later we will implement it. But, in order to avoid

Bugzilla legacy login instructions

2013-02-09 Thread Rob Weir
We currently have this message in Bugzilla: Please Note: All users with accounts with the legacy OpenOffice.org issue tracker must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To reset your password, click on the Forgot Password link in the header or footer and enter your user

Re: Bugzilla legacy login instructions

2013-02-09 Thread janI
On 9 February 2013 16:19, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: We currently have this message in Bugzilla: Please Note: All users with accounts with the legacy OpenOffice.org issue tracker must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To reset your password, click on the

Re: Bugzilla legacy login instructions

2013-02-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Rob Weir wrote: We currently have this message in Bugzilla: ... Is this still relevant? How does a password reset work today if the legacy openoffice.org email forwarder is gone? It is still relevant, but it doesn't need to stay in evidence. Anyway, it works like this: if

Changes that Impact Backwards Compatibility

2013-02-09 Thread Rob Weir
I've added a new section to the 4.0 Release Notes for tracking changes that impact backwards compatibility: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes This would include changes to the public interfaces of AOO, including incompatible changes to API's (including

RE: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work

2013-02-09 Thread V Stuart Foote
Steve, Nothing substantive yet in working through the Windows build of the ia2 branch. Should we build against Linux and OSX and be testing for impact on ATK/AT-SPI and NSAccessibility User Interface? And, with QA and testing of the ia2 branch proceeding what mechanism should folks use for

Re: Changes that Impact Backwards Compatibility

2013-02-09 Thread janI
Hi. When do you expect a feature to enter the list. 1) Before development 2) Before committing to trunk (e.g. committed in a branch) 3) after QA. The reason for my question, is that I work on l10n tools, which I hope will make it to 4.0, The tools have a high effect on the translation process:

Re: Mwiki is moved into maintenance mode.

2013-02-09 Thread David Gerard
On 8 February 2013 21:52, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: - Move cwiki to mwiki. this has been discussed/decided earlier, but might need a positive decision. I agree, we can progressively move stuff by turning pages into redirects to the MWiki. This may take time but could be

Changes that Impact Backwards Compatibility

2013-02-09 Thread janI
-- Forwarded message -- From: janI j...@apache.org Date: 9 February 2013 19:17 Subject: Re: Changes that Impact Backwards Compatibility To: janI j...@apache.org Stupid browser sorry for that. On 9 February 2013 19:15, janI j...@apache.org wrote: Hi. When do you expect

RE: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work

2013-02-09 Thread V Stuart Foote
From: V Stuart Foote Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 12:05 PM And here is a generic BZ search for accessibility issues

Re: Changes that Impact Backwards Compatibility

2013-02-09 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 1:17 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: janI j...@apache.org Date: 9 February 2013 19:17 Subject: Re: Changes that Impact Backwards Compatibility To: janI j...@apache.org Stupid browser sorry for that. On 9 February

Re: Bugzilla -- Any interest in enabling categories?

2013-02-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 08/02/2013 Rob Weir wrote: So with a new top-level category, I can easily get to 3 or 4 top level items, and then under applications reduce it to the core set of 5 products. Can we get anywhere close by combining products? I had a look again. If the aim is to avoid presenting lists of more

Re: FOSDEM: Thank you all!

2013-02-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 04/02/2013 Kay Schenk wrote: It would be great to get a blog on the outcome of this event...even a short one! I don't think this is worth a new post, but I've now added a Post-conference update paragraph to https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/apache_openoffice_at_fosdem_2013 with links to

RE: Changes that Impact Backwards Compatibility

2013-02-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Thanks for adding this. I have added a Calc and OpenFormat Support subsection there, with description of the proposed change to have POWER(0,0) produce an error value (#VALUE!) instead of 1, the current result. That is explained on the Release Notes and at the Bugzilla Issue #114430 at

Re: FOSDEM: Thank you all!

2013-02-09 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi all, Andrea Pescetti schrieb: On 04/02/2013 Kay Schenk wrote: It would be great to get a blog on the outcome of this event...even a short one! I don't think this is worth a new post, but I've now added a Post-conference update paragraph to

Re: Changes that Impact Backwards Compatibility

2013-02-09 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: Thanks for adding this. I have added a Calc and OpenFormat Support subsection there, with description of the proposed change to have POWER(0,0) produce an error value (#VALUE!) instead of 1, the current result. That

Re: java 7 patch

2013-02-09 Thread Kay Schenk
Fred -- Thanks. We'll see if we can get some testing/build with this this coming week. On 02/07/2013 11:32 AM, Fred Ollinger wrote: To whom it may concern, Below is a patch to fix some java7 compilation bugs. Also, this is attached. Index: hsqldb/jdbcDriver.java

Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti
A good practical example of backwards-incompatible changes in version 4.0 is the behavior of Calc while computing 0 ^ 0. You can find a long issue, with different points of view, about this at: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=114430 but in short: - Obviously, 0 ^ 0 is an illegal

Re: Changes that Impact Backwards Compatibility

2013-02-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Rob Weir wrote: On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: I have added a Calc and OpenFormat Support subsection there, with description of the proposed change to have POWER(0,0) produce an error value (#VALUE!) instead of 1, the current result.

Some ideas for the Basic macro editor, including the dialog editor

2013-02-09 Thread floris v
Please reconsider the present macro language and the way it links to the OOo API. Originally macro languages were added to office software to enable non-programmers to automate repetitive jobs, but in the OOo paradigm macros should apparently only be developed by programming geeks. For

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-09 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: A good practical example of backwards-incompatible changes in version 4.0 is the behavior of Calc while computing 0 ^ 0. You can find a long issue, with different points of view, about this at:

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-09 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 02/10/2013 12:11 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: A good practical example of backwards-incompatible changes in version 4.0 is the behavior of Calc while computing 0 ^ 0. You can find a long issue, with different points of view, about this at: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=114430

RE: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
It is not clear that OpenOffice-lineage software has returned the same value for POWER(0,0) over the years. It seems that a third-party library has been relied upon for the implementation and there was apparently not much attention to edge cases. If that library changes or is different on

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-09 Thread Guenter Marxen
Hi, I've looked in Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_power_zero#Zero_to_the_power_of_zero and for me it seems very reasonable to keep the old behaviour, as according to this article many math and other software treats 0^0 = 1 (see the paragraphs under Treatment on computers).

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-09 Thread TJ Frazier
On 2/9/2013 18:11, Andrea Pescetti wrote: A good practical example of backwards-incompatible changes in version 4.0 is the behavior of Calc while computing 0 ^ 0. You can find a long issue, with different points of view, about this at: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=114430 but in

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-09 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: It is not clear that OpenOffice-lineage software has returned the same value for POWER(0,0) over the years. It seems that a third-party library has been relied upon for the implementation and there was apparently not

Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work

2013-02-09 Thread Andrew Rist
Do you all know about this? http://ci.apache.org/builders/aoo-w7ia2/ We now have an automatic build of the ia2 branch running nightly. (and successfully) It is not loading up install bits for some reason, but I'll look at that and fix it. If you want to see the status of the latest build look

RE: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Please, I think I made it very clear that whatever the agreed direction, the documentation needs to be explicit. I also looked in the AOO embedded help for POWER and it is not helpful. (By the way, it would be great if it remained possible to access the on-line help even if the embedded help

RE: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Please, I think I made it very clear that whatever the direction, the documentation needs to be explicit. I also looked in the embedded help for POWER and it is not helpful. That is the only point of the note being replied to below. Knuth and I will continue to disagree about that. Either