Re: Other Administrators for the Facebook Fan Page
You should have an invitation. Regards Raphael On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 8:24 AM Peter Kovacs wrote: > > I have send you a friend request. > Maybe that makes it easier. > > All the bedt > Peter > > Am 17. November 2019 19:59:22 MEZ schrieb Raphael Bircher > : > >Hi all > > > >Can you send me your Personal account at FB. It's needed to add you as > >an admin. I was not able to find you in FB. > > > >Regards Raphael > > > >On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 3:45 PM Matthias Seidel > > wrote: > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> And remember, that I have an updated graphic for Facebook [1] > >available > >> for ages. > >> Would be nice if we can change it when you have access. > >> > >> Matthias > >> > >> [1] https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-Facebook.png > >> > >> Am 15.11.19 um 10:06 schrieb Peter Kovacs: > >> > Nope. Sorry did not here anything. > >> > I will try contact him again. Thanks the reminder. > >> > > >> > All the best > >> > Peter > >> > > >> > Am 14. November 2019 16:51:12 MEZ schrieb Matthias Seidel > >: > >> >> Hi Peter, > >> >> > >> >> Bumping this topic up... > >> >> > >> >> I met Raphael at ApacheCon Europe and asked him about the Facebook > >> >> account. > >> >> Did he contact you? > >> >> > >> >> Regards, > >> >> > >> >>Matthias > >> >> > >> >> Am 22.08.19 um 08:47 schrieb Peter Kovacs: > >> >>> Hello Raphael, > >> >>> > >> >>> I will contact you on Facebook. Then you can pass the admin > >rights to > >> >> me. > >> >>> Thanks for your efforts in the project. > >> >>> > >> >>> All the best > >> >>> Peter. > >> >>> > >> >>> Am 15. August 2019 13:01:55 MESZ schrieb Raphael Bircher > >> >> : > >> >>>> Hi all > >> >>>> > >> >>>> I've still the administrator access to the Apache OpenOffice Fan > >> >> Page. > >> >>>> I'm inactive in the project for over a year, and I have no plane > >to > >> >>>> change this in the next time. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> So I would like to step back from my admin Roul at the AOO > >Fanpage > >> >> in > >> >>>> Facebook. Can someone take over this. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Thanks a load. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Regards Raphael > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >> > >- > >> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >> > > > >- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Other Administrators for the Facebook Fan Page
Hi all Can you send me your Personal account at FB. It's needed to add you as an admin. I was not able to find you in FB. Regards Raphael On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 3:45 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: > > Thanks! > > And remember, that I have an updated graphic for Facebook [1] available > for ages. > Would be nice if we can change it when you have access. > > Matthias > > [1] https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-Facebook.png > > Am 15.11.19 um 10:06 schrieb Peter Kovacs: > > Nope. Sorry did not here anything. > > I will try contact him again. Thanks the reminder. > > > > All the best > > Peter > > > > Am 14. November 2019 16:51:12 MEZ schrieb Matthias Seidel > > : > >> Hi Peter, > >> > >> Bumping this topic up... > >> > >> I met Raphael at ApacheCon Europe and asked him about the Facebook > >> account. > >> Did he contact you? > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >>Matthias > >> > >> Am 22.08.19 um 08:47 schrieb Peter Kovacs: > >>> Hello Raphael, > >>> > >>> I will contact you on Facebook. Then you can pass the admin rights to > >> me. > >>> Thanks for your efforts in the project. > >>> > >>> All the best > >>> Peter. > >>> > >>> Am 15. August 2019 13:01:55 MESZ schrieb Raphael Bircher > >> : > >>>> Hi all > >>>> > >>>> I've still the administrator access to the Apache OpenOffice Fan > >> Page. > >>>> I'm inactive in the project for over a year, and I have no plane to > >>>> change this in the next time. > >>>> > >>>> So I would like to step back from my admin Roul at the AOO Fanpage > >> in > >>>> Facebook. Can someone take over this. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks a load. > >>>> > >>>> Regards Raphael > >>>> > >>>> > >> - > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Other Administrators for the Facebook Fan Page
Hi all I've still the administrator access to the Apache OpenOffice Fan Page. I'm inactive in the project for over a year, and I have no plane to change this in the next time. So I would like to step back from my admin Roul at the AOO Fanpage in Facebook. Can someone take over this. Thanks a load. Regards Raphael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [discussion] CMS migration (was: svn migration plan)
Hi Gavin Sounds like a load of work, Especially for the Templates. Does Pelican serve HTML and markdown mixed? Regards Raphael. On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 10:48 AM Gavin McDonald wrote: > > Hi all, > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 9:18 AM George Karalis wrote: > > > > Hello Peter, > > > > I have proposed some time ago the move to a static site generator — like > Jekyll, Hugo etc. — > > as I was redesigning OpenOffice’s front-page. That would greatly help > reduce tech diversity > > and maintenance as only static html files will be served. > > > > Most static site generators work with markdown and I believe that content > writers won't have > > a problem working with markdown. We could also setup an automated build > pipeline that > > serves the generated site with every commit, i.e. every markdown or > template change. > > > Hi George, you have just described almost perfectly Infras replacement for > the CMS! > Using Pelican and GHFM and Buildbot, you only need to 'edit' a page in > Github and that > commit will trigger a site rebuild and automatic publish of the site. It is > still in testing but > almost ready for use. I'll post more details and a docs link when its ready > for wider testing. > > Gav... > > > > > > > > By the way there's a fully functional redesigned front-page for anyone > interested, that time > > there was a server migration and it hadn't got much attention. The CMS > migration provides an > > opportunity to move to a whole website redesign. > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > > -- > Gav... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: SHA1/MD5 in sal/rtl/source/digest.c patch license able for OO
If the code is released from the original author under Apache License v2.0 then we can include it, else we have to write our own solution On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 9:54 PM Keith N. McKenna wrote: > > On 7/25/2019 1:26 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote: > > Call me naive. I wanted to have the question asked. No one should say that > > we did not try it this way. > > > > Am 25. Juli 2019 09:38:28 MESZ schrieb Bidouille : > >> > >> > >> - Mail original - > >>> I believe that unless the LO developer agrees to license it also > >>> under the ALv2 we cannot commit it to our code base. > >> +1 > >> The author is Michael Stahl, employed at CIB GmbH. > >> This company is copyleft addicted and LibO side only. > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > Peter; > > For other questions around handling other licenses see the 3rd Party > License Policy at https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
QA Improvements on 4.2.0
Hi all, I believe the 4.1.4 shows us, that we have to do a better job in QA. A minor release should never go to a rc5. I believe we all (and I pointing my finger to myself) underestimated the regression risk at the 4.1.4. So, to do a better job in the 4.2.0 I propose the following changes. - Define test areas, where tester should keep an extra eye on it. (based on the changes) - Doing Developer Snapshots again in a 2 Week frequency (or so) - Switch the AOO Profile for the snapshots to AOO-Dev - mobilize the willing testers to keep a critical eye on this builds - maybe also run the automated tests for Apache OpenOffice. The idea is to make the bug cycle shorter. Improvements should be tested right after the implementation and not short before the release. A fresh bug is easyer to fix as a old one. What do you think about this. Regards Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Open XML Filter
Hi all. Am .10.2017, 17:16 Uhr, schrieb Dave Fisher : Hi Damhan, Sent from my iPhone On Oct 20, 2017, at 12:21 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: I've looked at Apache POI before and even wrote a minimal filter that saves text cells in Calc to XLSX, see my email on 22 December 2015. Reading OOXML in Apache POI is problematic, we would have to build the document tree twice, first in POI, then in AOO, as a SAX-like API is not supported, so memory usage would double, and large documents would be problematic. Writing is better, in that there is a streaming API that doesn't use a lot of memory, but formulas might be a problem. I had more practical issues in cell iteration APIs I needed that were not exported over UNO. There are efforts to reduce the memory requirements in POI on the read side. There is a lot of cross development between Tika and POI. Tika has a huge regression set of documents it knows about on the web. Could we get any funding for better OOXML suport? Raphael? We are not in the position to put money into the project. However, we can Collect money for this project, and pay developers. That should be possible. We also willing to invest some menpower. Regards, Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Open XML Filter
Hi Peter Am .10.2017, 06:54 Uhr, schrieb Peter kovacs : During Apache POI is a cool idea. I will have a look at the weekend. I am in general interested in improving OOXML but I am still very slow in getting towards dev productivity. ( today is my certificate exam in ab initio, when I pass openoffice can move up my priority list again. YAY!) Yea, I think we have to discuss this solution. Btw. good luck by the exam. Raphael if you are evaluating headless servers, have you tried to set one up ? We will do tests, for sure. But in this case only on Linux. If I run in trouble, I will send a mail to the dev. Can you do that, and check if the office process crashes at 100% cpu after transformation? Or write a guide how to setup a server?. I did not manage and I would like to get a bug report in that area tested. We have anyway to write a doku so why not document this on a public point... yes Regards Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Open XML Filter
Hi Dave Am .10.2017, 04:20 Uhr, schrieb Dave Fisher : Hi - If we can use Java then Apache POI has OOXML support. You mean, use POI as a library in Apache OpenOffice? Regards, Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Open XML Filter
Hi all Who is willing to work on the Open XML Filters? I have to explain you, why I'm asking. In the past few month, I worked on a new project witch resulted in a NGO located in Switzerland called Vefko. The goal is, to offer other Association communication and collaboration tools. We are now at the software evaluation, and Apache Openoffice is on the list. At the Moment it's mainly interesting in the headless mode. But the poor OOXML Filter it's something negative at AOO. I know, that this topic came op frequently. But I also know, that this is not an easy task. So the big question, who is interested in something like this. Regards, Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Strange behavior of Spellcheck
Hi Patricia Am .10.2017, 23:42 Uhr, schrieb Patricia Shanahan : On 10/14/2017 2:24 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Patricia Shanahan wrote: On my Windows 10 machine, Spellcheck defaults to en-US spelling, regardless of the language of the installation. I have tested this with both fr and en-GB. (French and the two variants of English are the only languages I know well enough to test.) For each document, I have to specify the language before it will spellcheck correctly. So, spellcheck aside, the default language for text in the document (this is an attribute at a character level, Format - Character) is set to en-US. I don't think this depends on the OpenOffice UI language, but rather on your profile settings. Under Options - Languages you can set the default language for your future documents (separate from the UI language). If this is respected, then I don't see an issue here. OK, I can manually set it through Options - Languages. It still seems strange to me that the default language for documents is independent of the installed language. No that's not strange. You maybe want to have a Document in French, but you don't want to switch the UI. A common case if you work in different languages. Normally OpenOffice takes over the language settings from the OS. But something is wrong there. I didn't find out what. Regards Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: 4.1.4 show stopper!
Hi Jim, * I understand this, I have just an idea. We keep the 4.1.4 as is and release a patch for the bug. Then we make just new community builds with the patch. Like this we avoid to make a 4.1.5 and we stick within the ASF policy. Regards Raphael Am .10.2017, 16:35 Uhr, schrieb Jim Jagielski : Once something is tagged it is public. It is official. Removing and/or adjusting tags is something that we cannot and should not do. It is really against ASF policy since it destroys an accurate representation of our history and IP provenance. If someone wishes to take over as RM, I am fine with that. I will still produce the required builds. But as long as I'm RM, I can't abide by "rewriting" history re: 4.1.4... But like I said, I'm OK w/ someone taking over as RM and will follow their direction whatever it is. On Oct 10, 2017, at 9:38 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Jim Jagielski wrote: Considering this issue, this means that 4.1.4 is also DOA. I will wait for a few more hours, for West Coast to get online but my plan is to start the process for AOO-415 We are still in time for retiring 4.1.4-RC4 (not 4.1.4 altogether). Builds are on SourceForge but they've never been distributed and they can be replaced by new builds. 4.1.4 is tagged but SVN tags can be deleted and recreated. Not best practice, but surely feasible. Remember that the amount of code changes needed to produce something named 4.1.5 is quite significant and very much error-prone. Take a look at the relevant issues in case, but for a "quick fix" I would definitely stick to 4.1.4, produce 4.1.4-RC5 and vote on RC5, while undoing what we did for 4.1.4-RC4. Note: I'm writing all of the above without having had the time to look at the patch or test. I'll do that this evening, European time. I have still to understand the importance of this bug too - I assume this affects potentially many users, otherwise we can go the slippery way of "fix just another small bug" for ages. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: 4.1.4 show stopper!
Am .10.2017, 15:38 Uhr, schrieb Andrea Pescetti : Jim Jagielski wrote: Considering this issue, this means that 4.1.4 is also DOA. I will wait for a few more hours, for West Coast to get online but my plan is to start the process for AOO-415 We are still in time for retiring 4.1.4-RC4 (not 4.1.4 altogether). Builds are on SourceForge but they've never been distributed and they can be replaced by new builds. 4.1.4 is tagged but SVN tags can be deleted and recreated. Not best practice, but surely feasible. Remember that the amount of code changes needed to produce something named 4.1.5 is quite significant and very much error-prone. Take a look at the relevant issues in case, but for a "quick fix" I would definitely stick to 4.1.4, produce 4.1.4-RC5 and vote on RC5, while undoing what we did for 4.1.4-RC4. +100 Note: I'm writing all of the above without having had the time to look at the patch or test. I'll do that this evening, European time. I have still to understand the importance of this bug too - I assume this affects potentially many users, otherwise we can go the slippery way of "fix just another small bug" for ages. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4 as GA
+1 (non binding) Am .09.2017, 21:54 Uhr, schrieb Jim Jagielski : I am calling a VOTE on releasing Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4 as GA!! You can find these gems at: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.4-RC4/ The vote will last at least the normal 72 hours. Cheers! -- Jim Jagielski On behalf of the Apache OpenOffice Project - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Discussion] Switch to Git?
+1 Am .09.2017, 13:10 Uhr, schrieb Damjan Jovanovic : Hi Can we please switch to using Git instead of Subversion for AOO's source? I don't know how much justification you want/need. Git is huge nowdays, by far the most popular VCS worldwide, the one most developers know and IDEs support (https://rhodecode.com/insights/version-control-systems-2016). It would help us with local branches for testing and experimenting offline, git bisect for regression testing, it's efficient with large projects, it would integrate with GitHub better, etc. What do people think? Damjan -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: AAO writer RC-2
Hi all Am .08.2017, 15:50 Uhr, schrieb Patricia Shanahan : I agree about preferring a Bugzilla entry. We need to collect and organize information about where it does and does not reproduce, and about variants of the file. Bugzilla is set up to store that sort of information. +1 My only Ubuntu machine is a small, aging laptop not suitable for development work. If it is an Ubuntu-only problem, debugging it will need the involvement of at least one Ubuntu-using developer. It would be interesting if the bug shows up in Lubuntu or Kubuntu too. Maybe it's just GTK related. This would make since since we have a change in GTK with the GTK Fix. Regards Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Org.openide
Hi all, Am .08.2017, 09:09 Uhr, schrieb Peter Kovacs : Am Donnerstag, den 24.08.2017, 08:19 +0200 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga: There's no such thing as 'org.openide.filenames'. Do you mean 'org.openide.filesystems'? yes, it is filesystems. My wrong. And there a lot more refered to in other Classes. (I am still working on the first one ;) ) Also, where/how are these JARs used in your project? Sounds to me like your project is based on the NetBeans Platform. That is a realy good Question. We have a "Devtool" that integrates NetBeans into OpenOffice. https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice_NetBeans_Integration But that sounds more like a addition to NetBeans then to OpenOffice. However maybe in order to get benefits from the Netbeans integration we need an API in OpenOffice for this? At least that is my guess. Only the Open Office Scripting Module references to NetBeans. Which supports the Idea. But I don't have a clue. It is a module for NetBeans to support the OpenOffice API. So NetBeans can be used instead of the OpenOffice SDK That's basically my information Regards Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Org.openide
Thanks Geertjan, I forward this to the OpenOffice Dev Regards, Raphael Am .08.2017, 23:23 Uhr, schrieb Geertjan Wielenga : Unclear to me which module or which class or which anything specifically is referred to here. But, yes, in general, 'openide' is typically some thing like 'org.openide.xxx' where xxx is something specific (hence I really need more details than 'openide') which will all be part of the 1st code donation, since 'org.openide.xxx' are an indication of the oldest modules of NetBeans, part of the core of the NetBeans Platform. Gj On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: Hi all Since NetBeans is an Apache Incubator Project, there is maybe a chance to get the source under ALv2. Geertjan is this possible? Regards, Raphael CCed NetBeans dev. Am .08.2017, 15:10 Uhr, schrieb Peter kovacs : After a long search I have found the code in question in NetBeans repository. License is GPL v2 _or_ CDDL v1. :( You got to love Oracle for their ways. Hmm I think I will try to import the code in my workspace under given License. And then check if we really need this stuff. if no one knows anything, I opt for retiring the code pieces. Can try to replace the code and only move the dependency out, if there is request for it. But we will carry the mess longer around, since I am slowly moving. All the best peter Am 23. August 2017 13:57:18 MESZ schrieb Matthias Seidel < matthias.sei...@hamburg.de>: Am 23.08.2017 um 12:44 schrieb Peter kovacs: I have checked the link already. The only hint I see is the module declaration. Have you NetBeans installed? No, I haven't. I only sent the link in case you didn't know about OpenGrok... ;-) Am 23. August 2017 00:32:44 MESZ schrieb Matthias Seidel : Hi Peter, Maybe this link can help: http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/s?n=25&start=0&; sort=relevancy&q=openide&project=aoo-trunk Matthias Am 23.08.2017 um 00:24 schrieb Peter kovacs: Hello all, Can somebody tell me where the module openide is hiding? My theory is it is in NetBeans. But on the NetBeans page they only have a very old version where I can find traces. I guess no one can explain if my theory is right why we added the dependency? Thanks for the help. All the best Peter (By the way this is the first of 85 000 errors in eclipse after import without eclipse actually breaking. This will take some time, but I get better! :) ) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Org.openide
Hi all Since NetBeans is an Apache Incubator Project, there is maybe a chance to get the source under ALv2. Geertjan is this possible? Regards, Raphael CCed NetBeans dev. Am .08.2017, 15:10 Uhr, schrieb Peter kovacs : After a long search I have found the code in question in NetBeans repository. License is GPL v2 _or_ CDDL v1. :( You got to love Oracle for their ways. Hmm I think I will try to import the code in my workspace under given License. And then check if we really need this stuff. if no one knows anything, I opt for retiring the code pieces. Can try to replace the code and only move the dependency out, if there is request for it. But we will carry the mess longer around, since I am slowly moving. All the best peter Am 23. August 2017 13:57:18 MESZ schrieb Matthias Seidel : Am 23.08.2017 um 12:44 schrieb Peter kovacs: I have checked the link already. The only hint I see is the module declaration. Have you NetBeans installed? No, I haven't. I only sent the link in case you didn't know about OpenGrok... ;-) Am 23. August 2017 00:32:44 MESZ schrieb Matthias Seidel : Hi Peter, Maybe this link can help: http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/s?n=25&start=0&sort=relevancy&q=openide&project=aoo-trunk Matthias Am 23.08.2017 um 00:24 schrieb Peter kovacs: Hello all, Can somebody tell me where the module openide is hiding? My theory is it is in NetBeans. But on the NetBeans page they only have a very old version where I can find traces. I guess no one can explain if my theory is right why we added the dependency? Thanks for the help. All the best Peter (By the way this is the first of 85 000 errors in eclipse after import without eclipse actually breaking. This will take some time, but I get better! :) ) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Availability of AOO-4.1.4 RC2
Hi all I'm testing now in production environment. Util now no problems dedected, but I did only very basic stuff until now. Regards Raphael Am .08.2017, 17:19 Uhr, schrieb Jim Jagielski : Available for immediate testing are the source tarball and community builds of Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC2. As noted, these are Release Candidates and are not official, GA releases, although based on testing, the could become so. So PLEASE test these out! You can find these gems at: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.4-RC2/ Cheers! -- Jim Jagielski On behalf of the Apache OpenOffice Project - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Why is unwinreg.dll not downloaded automatic
Hi all If you forget unwinreg.dll, you get a message, with a wget and a download link. Why we don't donload this directly. Regards, Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Eclipse vs other IDEs (was: Re: Ide for Open Office (was Building OO))
Hi all Long time ago, most IDE faild with the size of the OO Code. I also know, that XCode failed. But I think, Time has changed. We have more RAM now. In NetBeans you have probably to extend the RAM in the JVM. I never tryed it. but I think I will. It will be interesting for testing. And if something fail we have the direct connection to the NetBeans Community. (I monitoring this project since the start in the Incubator) Regards, Raphael Am .07.2017, 10:16 Uhr, schrieb Damjan Jovanovic : About 5 years ago, when I tried to used Netbeans to open a large C project (the Wine project, about 2 million lines), it was unusably slow, and its C/C++ indexer crashed. I don't know if it has improved since then, but we have 6 times more code, and it's C++, not the much simpler C. Eclipse invested serious development effort into its Eclipse CDT parser, even writing static analysis tools with it and developing code refactoring. How good is Netbeans? On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On 7/19/17, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: > What is so "very basic" about Eclipse? It's an excellent IDE, among the > best C++ IDEs I ever used, and the only IDE I use to develop AOO. > > I only used Visual Studio a little, and it seemed very good at the .NET > languages, but poor at C++. What does Visual Studio do, that Eclipse CDT > doesn't? What does Eclipse do that Netbeans doesn't? Just curious, thinking aloud... ;) FC PS: I'm seriously interested if anyone has succesfully used Netbeans for working with AOO source.. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Tested the Ubuntu command lind to replace Cygwin as build system
Hi all Matthias mentioned the new Ubuntu command line system on Windows for building AOO on Windows. At the moment we use Cygwin for this. I invest some time in it, and found out, that this is not a solution. The problem, You can't start a windows program out of the Ubuntu command line. So you won't be able to start MSVC from the buildscript. But the tool as it self is interesting. So it's not a waste of time to try it out. But in our case, it doesn't help. Regards, Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice extensions: It is impossible to upload a new extension release
Am .06.2017, 13:55 Uhr, schrieb Karl Zeiler : Hi all Am 27.06.2017 um 12:27 schrieb Raphael Bircher: Hi all Am .06.2017, 12:09 Uhr, schrieb Karl Zeiler : Hi, Am 27.06.2017 um 08:11 schrieb Peter Kovacs: The message Sounds like an invalid Security Certificate. [...] This is infra topic isn't it? and how I can contact the infra team? Mail address? I just asked infra. The Certificate is managed by Sourceforge and not by infra. So you have to contact Sourceforge. But they are on the list. So they should read it. thanks for your answer. When I tried (a few days before) to upload the new extension release (> 11 MB) to LO extension center, there was the same above mentioned error message. The security certificate was OK, but the max client body size on the server for uploading a new release was limited to 10 MiB. After raising the limit to 16 MiB the problem was solved. You see the above mentioned error message is not realy clear. Who manages the max client body size for uploading? Infra or Sourceforge? It's all managed by sourceforge. Expect for the Domain Name. Infra just point to sourceforges server. Regards, Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice extensions: It is impossible to upload a new extension release
Hi all Am .06.2017, 12:09 Uhr, schrieb Karl Zeiler : Hi, Am 27.06.2017 um 08:11 schrieb Peter Kovacs: The message Sounds like an invalid Security Certificate. [...] This is infra topic isn't it? and how I can contact the infra team? Mail address? I just asked infra. The Certificate is managed by Sourceforge and not by infra. So you have to contact Sourceforge. But they are on the list. So they should read it. Regards, Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Building AOO on Windows 10 with "Bash on Ubuntu on Windows"
Hi Matthias Am .06.2017, 13:20 Uhr, schrieb Matthias Seidel : Hi at all! Has anyone tried to build AOO with "Bash on Ubuntu on Windows" instead of cygwin? It is a full Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS command line interface running as subsystem on Windows 10. I am doing a SVN checkout at the moment, so far it works... I'm installing it now. I have to be honest. The one thing I really missed since my switch to windows was the bash. It would be nice, if it's also possible to build windows without cygwin Regards Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Mac Buildsystem at Apache
Hi all First of all, sorry for the crossposting. Since long time we have no mac buildsystem anymore. I know, that OpenOffice and Weex has an interest in having one. My Question is, are there other Communities who has interest in a Mac build system? Regards, Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Any 4.1.4 RC for Windows available for testing?
Hello Andrea, * Am .06.2017, 18:53 Uhr, schrieb Andrea Pescetti : Kay Schenk wrote: the philosophy behind building on Windows 10 (the ASF buildbots), and having the output product work on all Windows platforms. I wrote this many times already, but just to be sure nobody misunderstands, we never released anything that was built by the buildbots. So far, buildbots are only a way to ensure that the build process can be successful in different environments. But the builds they produce were never used as RCs or final builds. Yea, that's the situation at the moment. But I really would like to see a change there. If the buildbot doew build for the release, we have no longer to to search for builder who does the "official" build. Also you would have more consistence in the builds. Only because we never did it before is not a reason to not do it, right? Ok, 4.1.4 has to be done otherwise, but for the 4.2 Release... it would be a solution. Regards, Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: home.apache.org down?
Hi all, Am .06.2017, 13:16 Uhr, schrieb Matthias Seidel : Hi Raphael, I could not get any connection at all to these two sites. Everything else worked. But restarting my router/cable modem did the trick... Reminder to myself: Always restart every device before complaining! ;-) Or hit it, sometimes helps too. Strange things happen. Regards, Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: home.apache.org down?
Hi Matthias, It works for me perfectly fine. If you have problem, contact infra on HipChat. Regards, Raphael Am .06.2017, 12:33 Uhr, schrieb Matthias Seidel : Hi at all! http://home.apache.org and http://people.apache.org seem to be down, although: https://status.apache.org/pubsub/manage.cgi lists people.apache.org as "Up and running" Can someone confirm this? Kind regards, Matthias -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: images overlapping in java bridge
Hi Vijaya This is the developer list. For User questions pleas go to the User Forum. https://forum.openoffice.org/ Regards, Raphael Am .06.2017, 11:27 Uhr, schrieb Vijayalakshmi A P : Hi, This is in OO3.3. I am writing images and data to the doc export. The issue I am facing is when I try to insert multiple images one after another, They just keep overlapping each other. Can anyone plz help me to get across this?? The images should appear one after another. Thanks Vijaya -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Failing to build 4.1.4
Hi Rory Am .06.2017, 19:43 Uhr, schrieb Rory O'Farrell : On Sat, 3 Jun 2017 19:33:59 +0200 Matthias Seidel wrote: That sounds great! I just finished a new build on Windows and was able to fix an (optical) bug in the Japanese Installer... ;-) Matthias For information, I have been using 4.1.4 for about a week, and at the level of my use (Text writing/editing/layout) of long book texts and simple Spreadsheet, it has behaved perfectly. Thanks a load for that feedback. On witch system you use Apache OpenOffice? Regards, Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Status: 4.1.4
Hi Matthias Am .05.2017, 16:21 Uhr, schrieb Matthias Seidel : Hi Raphael, I did manage to build 4.1.4 (en-US, de, ja, pt) on Windows 7, although I am not sure if I use the correct configure. (Andrea did post a link some time ago, but I am not able to it...) What is PSDK referring to? I think, I massed up the installation of the SDK's Can you post the configuration of your builds? Regards, Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Status: 4.1.4
Hi All I have still a fight with the Windows SDK. For some reasons, PSDK is not recognized. Regards, Raphael Am .05.2017, 14:06 Uhr, schrieb Jim Jagielski : I've been operating under the assumption that I *am* the release manager :) As such, I think we should shoot for a release next week at the latest. Last I checked, there were no remaining blockers for 4.1.4. As such, HEAD of http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/branches/AOO414/ represents what will turn into the likely release. I'll be doing macOS/OSX build and can also do the CentOS 5 32/64 bit ones as well (rpm and deb), if required. Comments? Feedback? On May 23, 2017, at 10:05 AM, Raphael Bircher wrote: Hi Jim Am .05.2017, 15:53 Uhr, schrieb Jim Jagielski : I am going thru the proposed blockers in anticipation of a AOO 4.1.4 release. I have not approved the 2 graphics-related mods, simply because even though they look like they might be easy, I don't want to subject ourselves to the risk, even as small as it might be. Plus, good PR for 4.2.0. I'm fine with this. From the release criteria point of view it's not really a blocker. Does this also mean, that you take over the Release Nanager? Regards, Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: There are some tar.gz in the 4.1.4 source
Hi Andrea Am .05.2017, 23:10 Uhr, schrieb Andrea Pescetti : Raphael Bircher wrote: There are some tar.gz in the 4.1.4 source in ext_source. They should not be there. we have to remove them before the release. There is no "4.1.4 source" since, as you say, we haven't released 4.1.4 yet. If you mean that http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/branches/AOO414/ contains external sources, this is not an issue at all: the source package (so the real "4.1.4 source") is prepared by a script that removes the extra files. Make sure, that you always run clean before committing stuff. Else we have binaries inside the source. If you look at the link above, you will see that nobody committed to it since it was created (as a copy of the 4.1.3 sources). So nobody committed additional stuff by mistake, it was already there. If you want to take a look at the script (that actually needs some polishing) you can probably find it in the release blockers, or just ask again and I will find the link. Thanks for that information, than all is ok. Regards Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
There are some tar.gz in the 4.1.4 source
Hi all There are some tar.gz in the 4.1.4 source in ext_source. They should not be there. we have to remove them before the release. Make sure, that you always run clean before committing stuff. Else we have binaries inside the source. Regards, Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Status: 4.1.4
Hi Jim Am .05.2017, 15:53 Uhr, schrieb Jim Jagielski : I am going thru the proposed blockers in anticipation of a AOO 4.1.4 release. I have not approved the 2 graphics-related mods, simply because even though they look like they might be easy, I don't want to subject ourselves to the risk, even as small as it might be. Plus, good PR for 4.2.0. I'm fine with this. From the release criteria point of view it's not really a blocker. Does this also mean, that you take over the Release Nanager? Regards, Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Bugzilla
Hi Peter Am .05.2017, 08:34 Uhr, schrieb Peter Kovacs : There are enough offices around. We have enough office suites who run all into the same direction, yes. But I think there is room for much more different office solution. Spend some time and read the feature request on Bugzilla. You will soon realize that many feature request bite each other. You can do one or the other, but not both. Office suites to day are nasty compromises. If you have specific versions for specific user groups, you could solve so many problems. There is no point in starting from the scratch without any plan or vision. I think, I have arguments for this. Imho looking for Companies & Investors is the route Libre is moving. I don't think doing the same is smart. I would rather prefer the opposite direction and focus on community building. And you want to do this only with volunteers? I say forget it. If AOO runs well, we have about 80 mails on the dev Mailing list per day. A pure Volunteer simply can't keep up with this load and still develop. An other problem is that you will get volunteers. But as soon they doing great work, they receive a Job offer from companies, and you will never see them again. No we need the companies. This is part of community building. We can maybe hold this version with non professional, but not improve it. Believe me we tryed it many times in the past. The native port of Mac OS X was the last real non company driven bigger improvement in OOo. And it would not be there, if not SUN jumped in with two devs to finish it. And that is something we can do without any programmer skills. We can claim that we are not bound today to anyone. The structure of Apache makes sure of that, I think this is something we differ a lot from TDF and we should utilize. Also I think we should try to do a bit of old school Open Source. No market focus for devs, rather go for the tech thingy. I think we have to much competition on our minds. We have something that is a challenge to master. Especially our bugs. I think there are developers out there that are fed up with the way open source works today. Had a colleague talked on Friday, who told me exactly that. I stay with him in touch now. Who knows maybe he joins someday. (No promises) I think if you take a look at today's capability of c++ it is an awesome language. Our problem is not the language but we use different ones. I am personally impressed by other languages too. But the more different languages I use the more I am convinced that the language used does not matter. The concept, architecture and tooling does. We need more helpers that simplify work, development wise. I also suggest to not trying to fix one bug, but by solving a bug and uplift our code. All the best Peter Am 21. Mai 2017 05:48:00 MESZ schrieb Patricia Shanahan : On 5/20/2017 2:11 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: ... We have way too many users to abandon the 4.x branch completely. We do need to handle security issues. If we want start a rewrite for a 5.x then we will need to map the functionality particularly in Calc. We will also need to pick a more modern language compared to C++. We now have an XML schema which can help us generate code. We did this for Java in Apache POI. The ODF Toolkit is also still in the Incubator and it could be of use. I think we should all think about it a little and then have a series of video conferences reporting back to the community with a synopsis step by step. I can see a case for creating a new project to build a modern office suite from scratch, if there are enough interested people to make it viable. I strongly disagree with calling it "OpenOffice" or assigning it an OpenOffice version number, for the following reasons: 1. Doing so would create an expectation of compatibility that would limit the options for the new suite. 2. Depending on how quickly the new suite is developed, and, after release, its download rate relative to OpenOffice, we may want to produce an actual OpenOffice 5.x. Using "OpenOffice 5.x" for the new suite would limit the actual OpenOffice to 4.y, no matter how large y gets, or how long demand for OpenOffice continues. 3. If you look at what I wrote above, using "OpenOffice" for the new suite makes it very difficult to write clearly about the differences between it and the current OpenOffice line. I suggest that the people interested in writing new office suite should pick a project name and either create an incubator podling or, if there are enough members involved, create a new top level project. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.a
Re: Bugzilla
Hi Patricia Am .05.2017, 22:04 Uhr, schrieb Patricia Shanahan : On 5/20/2017 9:07 AM, Raphael Bircher wrote: Hi all Am .05.2017, 16:32 Uhr, schrieb esh1907 : Maybe we should try to locate and convince people who used to work during Star and Sun Microsystems to rejoin the project? I think this is the wrong way to go. We can't get the good old time back. What we need is fresh business blood. Not companies who use OpenOffice, Companies who help develop the project. Without this we will face a slow dead. A project in this size need professional developers. But companies don't com just to put money in, they want something back (normally). SUN and IBM was a big exception. The point is, we are not attractive for Companies at the moment. There is no room to make money. We should start getting attractive for companies. We may need both. If a company got interested in AOO today, they would be presented with the same problem as I'm fighting: a large, complicated body of code that seems to have been modified by separate departments - just because I find out how something works in writer, it does not mean I know how it works in calc. A retired Sun or StarOffice person who understands how the code is put together could save me a lot of time. My current low level objective is to find where to put a break point to intercept a double click on OLE substitute text. A few minutes of e-mail response from someone who knows, or knows how to find out, might save me hours or days. The same would apply to the professional developers you want. I don't think, that this people are already retired, they are not old enough. And people from the pre SUN time bring not a load of benefit. Most of the code has changed since 1998. AFAIK one of the oldest part is the build in file picker (not the native one) He goes back to 199x. But you are right, the ex people from SUN would be value. If the commercial situation of Apache OpenOffice changes, we can maybe get some of them back. But what I want to say, we should not waste the time and try to restore the old project. OpenOffice is old, in the IT world very old. Things change from time to time. I don't say to scrap the old model immediately. Maybe we should invite people from the whole ASF to discuss how a modern Office Suite looks like. I believe we are to strong focused on the old concept. Sometimes this blocks new ideas and scares also companies with new ideas away. Regards, Raphael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: 4.1.4 blockers (Was: Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4))
Am .05.2017, 12:30 Uhr, schrieb Matthias Seidel : Hi Jim, That is alright with me... ...if we start working on a 4.2.0 branch as soon as possible! ;-) Regards, Matthias Am 17.05.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Jim Jagielski: My plan is to hold off on accepting this... On May 3, 2017, at 2:36 PM, Marcus wrote: Am 03.05.2017 um 11:54 schrieb Matthias Seidel: An installer for Windows (and macOS) with an outdated ASF logo is "broken" (in my eyes) ;-) 80% of our downloads are for Windows, 15% for macOS. They should see the new logo! the logos are visible just at 2 places: - splash screen --> With the modern PC systems these days it's visible for only - hm, let's say - 1,5 sec. - About dialog --> IMHO a dialog that is one of the most seldom opened dialogs in OpenOffice. I don't want to sound too negative. I just doubt that the most users will notice this graphical change. ;-) However, at the end it's the decision of the Release Manager if he is accepting this as a blocker. Apart from that, no code! Just some graphics... Sure, but every change is a risk. And it should be prevented in general when it's not necessary. I don't make a difference between code and non-code. Paranoia? Maybe. Experience? Yes. Marcus Am 03.05.2017 um 00:11 schrieb Marcus: Am 02.05.2017 um 23:51 schrieb Matthias Seidel: Am 02.05.2017 um 13:42 schrieb Jim Jagielski: On Mar 22, 2017, at 8:43 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote: If we decide to get the new ASF logos for the installer, we should also update the setup icons for Windows/macOS and the Intro/About Dialog. But there has been a discussion with Andrea and Marcus whether to include such things or not... correct, new graphics cannot be a blocker for a release. Except the existing ones are broken. But this is not the case here. Sorry, but we should clearly think twice if a change is necessary for a bugfix release. Every change has its own risk. My 2 ct. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Bugzilla
Am .05.2017, 19:15 Uhr, schrieb Hagar Delest : Le 20/05/2017 à 18:07, Raphael Bircher a écrit : But companies don't com just to put money in, they want something back (normally). SUN and IBM was a big exception. The point is, we are not attractive for Companies at the moment. There is no room to make money. We should start getting attractive for companies. The only one I would see is Canonical. But i still don't understand why they chose LibO. What other company would invest money in a MS Office competitor??? In addition to the investment in the development (meaning manpower cost but also the time needed to get the equivalent features they already have in MS Office), there would also be the training of the users, the migration of the existing tools and files (especially macros) and the problem of the format interoperability with the people this company deals with. That's too much for companies to think about it IMHO. Or perhaps Google but what for? The main problem is, that we have no good reason to invest in OpenOffice. Since years, we just run behind MS Office. But we never get beyond a good copy of MS Office. License cost free is not a feature. The only benefit OpenOffice offers, is that it runs on 3 Operating system with the same code. this gives a base line in the program witch MS O lakes. We avoid a load of compatibility issue with this. Is there any company that invests substantially in LibO BTW (just a question, I really don't know)? When I see all the migrations (mostly to LibO because it's much more dynamic and they are good at marketing their project), I just see bodies (often administrations) who want to cut costs but without major investment, they just take it because it serves their cause but I doubt there is any will to go further for them (I mean dedicate manpower to help the project). That was a big mistake of the old OpenOffice Marketing. They promote mostly the cost freeness. And they promote that you can save the License expense. On the first look, this is true, but on the second view id didn't work at all. With Open Source you save no license cost, because you need the money to bring the project forward. For my point of view, saving money is a bad reason to use Open Source. I thought when OOo was given to Apache that the licensing would give interest to the project for companies but it did not happen at all. Less restrictive licensing attracts most of the devs. This is part of the world evolution today I guess: people want more free sharing, or at least want to avoid that their code can be used for commercial when they give it for free. The license only don't generate commercial interest. It needs an interesting Project for company, and it looks, we are not at the moment. At the moment, the OpenOffice Project don't give companies the opportunity to make money. This will probably change as sonn as - there exist easy ways to do a 3rd party version - there is a substantial interest of Users investing money. -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Bugzilla
Hi all Am .05.2017, 16:32 Uhr, schrieb esh1907 : Maybe we should try to locate and convince people who used to work during Star and Sun Microsystems to rejoin the project? I think this is the wrong way to go. We can't get the good old time back. What we need is fresh business blood. Not companies who use OpenOffice, Companies who help develop the project. Without this we will face a slow dead. A project in this size need professional developers. But companies don't com just to put money in, they want something back (normally). SUN and IBM was a big exception. The point is, we are not attractive for Companies at the moment. There is no room to make money. We should start getting attractive for companies. Regards, Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Windows 10 S
Hi all We have anyway to move, because we use very old SDK's Regards Raphael Am .05.2017, 10:19 Uhr, schrieb FR web forum : +1 With XP and Vista EoL, 32-bit systems are dead. Issue for AOO: https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=46594 64-bit port has been done for LibO. Process described here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/msvc-x86_64 - Mail original - De: "Rory O'Farrell" À: dev@openoffice.apache.org Envoyé: Jeudi 11 Mai 2017 10:01:00 Objet: Windows 10 S I cam across this thread on an Ubuntu forum https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2360989 The gist of it is that Win 10 S (out of the box) will not run 32 bit applications. I have not delved into the depths of Windows 10 and Microsoft policy, being a contented linux user, but if the reports in that thread are true ought we not seriously consider a 64 bit OpenOffice? -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice4.1.3 Startup Problems on CentOS 7 32-bit
Hi Am .05.2017, 04:15 Uhr, schrieb Len E. : Ladies/Gentlemen: The subject post was entered on the Apache OpenOffice Forum yesterday in the category Install, Setup and Troubleshooting --> Linux. Rory suggested that I refer the situation to you for your review and expert commentary. Can we see the command line output? Regards Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Apache OpenOffice NG
Hi all Apache OpenOffice NG stands for New Generation. I know, this thread is difficult. Just sit down, relax and read it. This is just a brainstorm. We don't talk now if it's possible or not. What would happened if we drop the product but not the project? Drop the binaries and just doing source Release. The idea is to hand over the final products (can be a variety of products) to third party organizations (Companies, whatever). The Project remains open to provide a common codebase. I know, this is a complete different way. At first i said: "NO, NEVER", but if I start thinking a bit longer I also see the big chances in. Maybe we should say goodbye to the idea of the one big office suite who try to serve all the peoples needs and start to think in direction of smaller office tools who are customized for a User Group. What you think about this, the tread is open for inputs, ideas and so on. Regards Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Sorry for not providing Windows Builds yet
Hi all I'm sorry for not providing Windows build yet. If someone step up and want to do the build, I'm completely find with it. I just want to say that. Regards Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Request for Mwiki account
Hi Matthias This should be done Regards, Raphael Am .03.2017, 22:39 Uhr, schrieb Matthias Seidel : Hello all! I think I also need an account for our MediaWiki (MWiki) ;-) My prefered username: mseidel My prefered mail address: msei...@apache.org Kind regards, Matthias -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Linux BuilBots
Hi Matthias Am .03.2017, 21:16 Uhr, schrieb Matthias Seidel : Hi Raphael, The dead download link is in the conf file for all our buildbots: https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/buildbot/aegis/buildmaster/master1/projects/openofficeorg.conf According to this page it is the place to update the configuration: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Buildbot+info BTW: I only find one reference for that specific URL in source and it seems some sort of comment: http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/search?q=msweet.org%2Ffiles%2F&defs=&refs=&path=&hist=&project=aoo-trunk Of course this should also be corrected. I was wrong sorry, the download source in this case is added by the configure. so of course you need to change the buildbot config. Can you please also update the informations on the build instructions on the wiki? Sorry for my false information, and thanks for your efforts. Regards, Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU
Re: Linux BuilBots
Hi Matthias Am .03.2017, 20:49 Uhr, schrieb Matthias Seidel : Hi Raphael, Does changing the source code affect the configuration of the buildbots? Not the configuration, but the downloads of external sources is triggered by bootstrap. If there is a dead download link, it don't download the source, and this leads you to that error. So you have to correct the download link in the OpenOffice source code. Regards, Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU
Re: Linux BuilBots
Hi Matthias Am .03.2017, 20:32 Uhr, schrieb Matthias Seidel : Hello all! When I tried to build AOO on Ubuntu 16.04 I encountered the same error as our Buildbots: --- 1 module(s): epm need(s) to be rebuilt Reason(s): ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /home/buildslave/slave/openoffice-linux64-nightly/build/main/epm When you have fixed the errors in that module you can resume the build by running: build --all:epm --- Problem was epm download from: http://www.msweet.org/files/project2/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz I changed the URL to: https://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/epm-3.7.tar.gz So I would like to make this change also to the config file for our buildbots: https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/buildbot/aegis/buildmaster/master1/projects/openofficeorg.conf Any objections? (BTW: dmake is also downloaded from Sourceforge) The right place to change this is in the OpenOffice source code. Simply search for the old download link. And yea, it's really broken, I stumbled over the same issue. Regards, Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU
Re: Official build configuration on Windows
Hi Andrea Am .03.2017, 01:25 Uhr, schrieb Andrea Pescetti : On 22/03/2017 Raphael Bircher wrote: Yea, I looked into the configure.sh for Linux, but the questions are more about the Windows specific switches. I hoped someone can provide the switches. They should be in the first lines of the log file for Windows (use the 4.1.2 files first, always from the link I sent). Can't you find them there? I will sort it out, and post the configuration here. Regards, Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: A question before I download
Hi Please don't ask any user questions on this list. This is the developer mailing list. Please go to https://forum.openoffice.org/ for this question, thanks! Regards, Raphael Am .03.2017, 23:02 Uhr, schrieb MISTY BLUE : Hi, I have an HP laptop that came with reduced-priced WORD Home combo (WORD, EXCEL, etc.) That one-year special is about to end and I'd really like to switch over to your software because of the high renewal price. I really only use word processing but I guess your download is everything just like WORD. My question is do I wait until my WORD subscription expires next Monday to download your software or can I download before WORD expires without causing any conflict? Looking forward to your reply. Misty -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4)
Hi Jim, * That's ok, I think. Andrea told that he would have the builds not befor end march. And I'm happy if I have my Windows builds on Monday too. Regards, Raphael Am .03.2017, 12:59 Uhr, schrieb Jim Jagielski : I can have this complete and uploaded by this Monday if that's OK... I am currently traveling and my AOO build system isn't accessible from where I am. On Mar 22, 2017, at 7:52 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Mar 21, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Raphael Bircher wrote: Is there someone who can do Mac OS X? As mentioned previously, I can. In fact, I have, but it was not a full-distclean rebuild, so will do again, just to make sure. Once done, will upload. Suggested upload locations appreciated :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Official build configuration on Windows
Am .03.2017, 01:15 Uhr, schrieb Andrea Pescetti : Raphael Bircher wrote: I need the official build configuration on windows. Can someone help me? I won't be able to help you specifically on Windows, but did you actually start from the link I sent? Try the 4.1.2 scripts/documents first; the log file has plenty of information about the environment. When you bump into a difficulty, it will be better to ask about that one in detail rather than asking generically. Yea, I looked into the configure.sh for Linux, but the questions are more about the Windows specific switches. I hoped someone can provide the switches. Regards, Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4)
Hi all Am .03.2017, 12:52 Uhr, schrieb Jim Jagielski : On Mar 21, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Raphael Bircher wrote: Is there someone who can do Mac OS X? As mentioned previously, I can. In fact, I have, but it was not a full-distclean rebuild, so will do again, just to make sure. Once done, will upload. Suggested upload locations appreciated :) Thanks a loat, Jim Ok, a short summary: Linux 64 deb/rpm Andrea Windows Raphael(I hope I will get it) Mac OS X Jim Regards, Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Official build configuration on Windows
Hi all I need the official build configuration on windows. Can someone help me? Thanks a load. Regards, Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4)
Hi all Am .03.2017, 23:42 Uhr, schrieb Andrea Pescetti : Raphael Bircher wrote: @Ariel please give a comment, if you are able to create the Release or not. If not, I'm willing to volunteer as release manager. More than a Release Manager we need builds. Can you put builds online for people to test? Even though it is (deliberately) complex to do so, you can upload them to your home.apache.org account via SFTP. I can only follow a few discussions lately, but I think I can provide proper Linux-64 builds from the AOO414 branch matching the 4.1.3 specifications (this won't happen before end of March). Unfortunately this is only marginally useful as the majority of downloads are for other operating systems. So it is very valuable if, on your own machine (no buildbots, let's keep it simple), you can provide builds for other systems. Ok, I just started to setup windows for Release compatible builds. But it will take some time, since windows is the most nasty platform to build. Is there someone who can do Mac OS X? And Linux 32bit? Regards, Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Release 4.1.3
Hi All @Ariel please give a comment, if you are able to create the Release or not. If not, I'm willing to volunteer as release manager. Regards, Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice Windows builds
Hi Andrea Am .03.2017, 08:23 Uhr, schrieb Andrea Pescetti : Raphael Bircher wrote: So this means, the buildbot is completely unusable for the 4.1.4 branch. We never used a buildbot for building releases. That said, I'm not actually sure about the version of Visual Studio that can work for building on Windows. It would help if someone can tell Infra. It's Visual Studio 08. But Infra is not willing to install such old version on a new VM. But to be honest, we have to move forward anyway. We can't stick with VS 2008 much longer. The reason for the first build breaker is probably just, that the configure can't get the version number of the MSVC. I did some analyses, but to dig deeper, I have to install VS 2015 on my own computer. Regards, Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice Windows builds
Hi all Am .03.2017, 04:19 Uhr, schrieb Chris Thistlethwaite : Greetings, Infra has been migrating VMs away from our aging systems in OSU and in the last week we've moved the buildbot for Windows 7 (bb-win7) to a new Windows 10 VM (bb-win10). I've been trying to get all the builds on that machine working and ran into some issues with aoo-win7 and aoo-w741k. Those two builds require Visual Stuido 2008 and some deprecated build tools. We'd like to get those updated to use Visual Studio 2015. Until the builds are updated, they are going to continue to fail. Please refer to the build errors for details https://ci.apache.org/builders/aoo-win7/builds/657/steps/configure/logs/stdio So this means, the buildbot is completely unusable for the 4.1.4 branch. I don't know if we use the BB for release. If yes, we have to search for an other solution :-(. For the 4.2.0 it means, tat we have to switch to VisualStudio 2015. Before the BB is also completely unusable. So we have actually just the Linux BB's and a Free BSD? That's no good news. Regards, Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
FYI: Deleted some old SUN stuff
Hi all, I found some really old scripts refering to the EIS/CWS stuff. The scripts are no longer needed, so I deleted it. Regards, Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Access to the OpenOffice Buildbot boxes
Hi Andrea Am .03.2017, 08:44 Uhr, schrieb Andrea Pescetti : Raphael Bircher wrote: Yea, as I found out, the shell access is reserved to infra committers. OK, but what did you want to do? I mean, shell access is not granted since it is assumed that we can do everything we need without needing it. So if you wanted to help with buildbots you should be able to do it immediately with your current privileges. I just want to make sure that I have proper access if there is something. I believed that we can have shell access. But I was wrong. So never mind. Regards, Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Access to the OpenOffice Buildbot boxes
Hi all Am .03.2017, 00:04 Uhr, schrieb Andrea Pescetti : Raphael Bircher wrote: I want to have access to the buildbot boxes from Apache OpenOffice. If it's ok for you, I will ask infra for access referring to this thread. You already do. All committers have access to the buildbot configuration, that covers everything we can do and is somewhere in SVN (I can't find it now but ask me if you don't find it; it's not in the OpenOffice SVN, but in the Infra SVN). I think shell access is not given since each project can manage everything through SVN. That said, I'm absolutely OK with you being given shell access! I'm just noting that probably whatever you want to do can be done with the privileges you already have, by changing files in SVN. Yea, as I found out, the shell access is reserved to infra committers. Regards, Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Access to the OpenOffice Buildbot boxes
Hi all, I want to have access to the buildbot boxes from Apache OpenOffice. If it's ok for you, I will ask infra for access referring to this thread. Thanks and by, Raphael -- My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Pootle] Where to make changes in English
Hi Matthias Am .02.2017, 17:00 Uhr, schrieb Matthias Seidel : Hello all, There are some glitches in Pootle for the "master" language (EN-US?). (Look out for "documention"...) They are in the source. sometimes OpenGrok helps you to find the strings. Regards, Raphael -- Mein Blog: https://raphaelbircher.blogspot.ch - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Forum and wiki has still the old Apache Logo
Hi everybody I just noticed, that the forum and the wiki (Mediawiki) still has the old ASF Logo. Ok, it's not that important, but I think, it should be changed. I have anymore access to the VM. Can someone with access to the VM change this? Regards Raphael -- Mein Blog: https://raphaelbircher.blogspot.ch - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Contact to SourceForge
Hi all I search our contact to SourceForge. Has anyone the information? Regards Raphael -- Mein Blog: https://raphaelbircher.blogspot.ch - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Documentation needs
Hi all Am .02.2017, 15:20 Uhr, schrieb Patricia Shanahan : On 2/14/2017 10:40 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: Hello, From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] I'm sure our documentation needs work, and there is someone with writing, editing, and copyediting skills hoping to help. The doc@ list seems to be dead, except for one message posted this year. What would be the best way to get started on improving our website or documentation? I think the easiest way is to use the wiki and coordinate the work. Start here: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation Previously, much was coordinated by odf-autors: http://www.odfauthors.org/ At the moment, I do not know how to create an account in the Wiki, _maybe someone else can help_? Editing the web pages is done with cms, you have to have an account, which you get when you are committer: The German language documentation is _actively_ maintained by the team of the ProOO-Box, see: http://prooo-box.org/live/seiten/dokumentation.html (see also the site: https://www.openoffice.org/de/doc/index.html but the documents there are not up-to-date) Maybe one place to start on the English documentation would be to pick up German changes, machine translate, and then polish the result, if the licensing permits? Perhaps one can say more precisely, documentation is not my particular workspace. I think the real problem is that currently documentation is not in anybody's workspace. We have at least one volunteer who is interested, but needs help getting started. I asked on the Facebook Page for help. We will see, whats the reaction. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Mein Blog: https://raphaelbircher.blogspot.ch - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Short news video about Apache OpenOffice
Hi all Am .02.2017, 09:11 Uhr, schrieb Jörg Schmidt : Hello, From: Raphael Bircher [mailto:rbircherapa...@gmail.com] Hi all I've done a short news video about our project. Just want to inform you. https://youtu.be/9P-Hww7K-eQ Feel free to give me feedback. I like it, but your Swiss English is a little bit original ;-) Of course you can share it if you want ;-) If it is not so much work, create a German version and we can link it on http://www.openoffice.org/de/. And here it is... the German video https://youtu.be/7VtRaN7JccU Feel free to share it. Thanks! Regards, Raphael -- Mein Blog: https://raphaelbircher.blogspot.ch - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Short news video about Apache OpenOffice
Hi Jörg Am .02.2017, 09:11 Uhr, schrieb Jörg Schmidt : Hello, From: Raphael Bircher [mailto:rbircherapa...@gmail.com] Hi all I've done a short news video about our project. Just want to inform you. https://youtu.be/9P-Hww7K-eQ Feel free to give me feedback. I like it, but your Swiss English is a little bit original ;-) I know ;-) Of course you can share it if you want ;-) If it is not so much work, create a German version and we can link it on http://www.openoffice.org/de/. Should be less work as the English one ;-) Regards, Raphael -- Mein Blog: https://raphaelbircher.blogspot.ch - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Short news video about Apache OpenOffice
Hi all I've done a short news video about our project. Just want to inform you. https://youtu.be/9P-Hww7K-eQ Feel free to give me feedback. Of course you can share it if you want ;-) Regards, Raphael -- Mein Blog: https://raphaelbircher.blogspot.ch - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Increase the number of tables in Calc
Hi Damjan We should run performance tests for this. To increase the number is maybe easy, to find out the side effects is not so an easy task. I this case, we have to be careful in this case. I want to see some test specs here. I'm willing to help there. It would be nice to have Jörg on the testers too. Regards, Raphael Am .02.2017, 20:52 Uhr, schrieb Damjan Jovanovic : My patch works :-). I can make 1024 sheets! On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 9:39 PM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: Sorry, my bad. Hopefully, to increase number of sheets, it's just this one-line patch below that I am busy compiling now. Will let you know if it works soon. Index: main/sc/inc/address.hxx === --- main/sc/inc/address.hxx(revision 1781341) +++ main/sc/inc/address.hxx(working copy) @@ -87,7 +87,7 @@ // Count values const SCROW MAXROWCOUNT= MAXROWCOUNT_DEFINE; const SCCOL MAXCOLCOUNT= MAXCOLCOUNT_DEFINE; -const SCTAB MAXTABCOUNT= 256; +const SCTAB MAXTABCOUNT= 1024; const SCCOLROWMAXCOLROWCOUNT = MAXROWCOUNT; // Maximum values const SCROW MAXROW = MAXROWCOUNT - 1; On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 9:32 PM, FR web forum wrote: >The maximum column I see is AMJ, which is the 1024th. >Which version are you using? Not columns but sheets - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Mein Blog: https://raphaelbircher.blogspot.ch - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: changing the site for creating a issuezilla account
Hi all Am .01.2017, 20:22 Uhr, schrieb Mathias Röllig : The best we can do is still to ask politely and honestly the user to go first to a user forum and ask for help. Sure, the most will also ignore this hint. YES, but this MUST BE at https://bz.apache.org/ooo/createaccount.cgi Anybody should read, that issuezilla is NOT A HELPDESK /before/ one is creating an issuezilla account! Maybe we should remove all bz links at the User site *.openoffice.org* and only have a link on the developer page openoffice.apache.org Regards, Raphael -- Mein Blog: https://raphaelbircher.blogspot.ch - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Using IRC more
Hi at all We don't use IRC at the moment. I miss this instrument. First to get fast respond for problems, like building. second I believe that it also helps to grow the community. You have the possibility for real time talk. This is sometimes really healthy. For me, a good chat can be like a heartbeat of a community. Do we meet at freenode.net on ApacheOO or what do you think. Regards Raphael -- Mein Blog: https://raphaelbircher.blogspot.ch - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Community building: give our User a chance to contribute!
Hi Jörg Am .01.2017, 22:16 Uhr, schrieb Jörg Schmidt : -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] Apache Projects all produce software free to the public. Nothing more. Is a office-programming-projekt under Apache Licence not a free project? Coming into the Incubator means operating under the Incubator PMC with an existing *software* project that can stand on its feet better as part of Apache Community. yes, clear I think it is appropriate to find the simplest thing that can possibly work. I recommend following Raphael's recommendation. Sorry, but my interest is the original (= Openoffice) and no third party project. I do not think the ASF would allow a crowd funding campaign for AOO and a crowd funding campaign war Raphaels suggestion. If at least that can work, then one has a foundation for something. Yes, for a third party project ... for that I have no interest. You got here something wrong. It's not needed to make a fork. You can do the whole work at Apache OpenOffice. You have only to follow the Development guide lines of OpenOffice. But that's not a problem I think. The only thing that has to be done outside ASF is the founding. And you don't collect Money for OpenOffice itself. You collect money to develop some features or to fix a list of bugs. This is a small bat important difference. And you collect the money not as the ASF or Apache OpenOffice, you collect it as an individual. The development will go the ordinary way. there is no difference between paid work and volunteered work. Regards, Raphael -- Mein Blog: https://raphaelbircher.blogspot.ch - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Community Building: Development business next steps
Hi at all Ok, we have had a long discussion about. if we want, what's the possibilities and how we can setup a way that user can invest money in Apache OpenOffice. It seams to be clear, that the whole thing has to be done outside ASF. I got also really clear statement on the dev@community.a.o list from some long standing ASF members. I think the way is: - Find work that could be done - Find a company that is willing to do it. - Find a crowd funding platform - Find ways, to rich out our users. - founding (external) - development (i propose to develop directly here) I never said, that the way is easy. But I believe we have to do it. I'm honest, after all this years at this project I don't expect to much. Most of our user probably simply want a free program and have no interest in paying anything. But at our user base, even a small group can be really big. So let's work on this, for Apache OpenOffice and for our users. Regards, Raphael -- Mein Blog: https://raphaelbircher.blogspot.ch - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Community building: give our User a chance to contribute!
Am .01.2017, 05:31 Uhr, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton : -Original Message- From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:legi...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 19:39 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Community building: give our User a chance to contribute! If a member can not collect for the hole project, I think the ASF should do. That would be the simplest solution. Can we ask the ASF what they think? Are they against a simple OpenOffice development specific fund? After all this is a end user product, not some IT component. [orcmid] It is possible that targeted donations might have an arrangement. They would not be for small sums, I think. It would be up to the AOO Project Management Committee to make such requests. However, there is a different aspect here. The ASF does not pay developers. None. Not any. Of course, contributors might make their contributions as part of their employment, but it is not paid by the ASF. So targeted donations would pay for other things needed by the project that are beyond what ASF normally provides. Both of these factors are related to the non-profit status of the ASF and how it defines its mission and what its policies are for achieving that mission. We talked through much of this probably one year ago. Other projects do have downstream producers who create distributions or forks and may be commercial. But they contribute back upstream, and may have people who provide those contributions and work with the project on fixes, etc. I personaly don't believe in that model for Apache OpenOffice. There is no need for a customized version of Apache OpenOffice. And the people who fork, do it normaly to have there own product. They don't want to upstream. But Yes, it is one model, who exist within ASF. Not that I'm completely against this way... If someone finds a way, to generate money to contribute back, it would be nice. But I don't think it's the right way. I'm more with the payed feature model We can dig up that conversation if you like. I would be interested, where the discussion ends ;-) Regards Raphael -- Mein Blog: https://raphaelbircher.blogspot.ch - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Community building: give our User a chance to contribute!
Am .01.2017, 11:00 Uhr, schrieb Jörg Schmidt : Hello, From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:legi...@gmail.com] We see in Star citizen how mighty crowd can be. Maybe a platform would be great where people can pledge money for something they need. If the needed budget is reached, payed developers implement it. Or we could do it as a bonus system. You pledge money on a bug/enhancement, if the bug gets included in the release the developers get a payout. This is just an idea. I am not sure if we can do business within the ASF or if we have to found a 3rd party entity for this. If we have to go 3rd party I prefer a cooperative society as a legal form. https://ec.europa.eu/growth/sectors/social-economy/cooperative s/european-cooperative-society_de You are basically right, but let me give the following information. Team OpenOffice was such a project. The participants were mainly experienced OpenOffice developers from SUN Microsystems. I think, the real problem there was this text http://www.opensourceforbusiness.info/openoffice-org-droht-das-aus/ See: https://web.archive.org/web/20120107200702/http://teamopenoffice.org/de/the-team-de.html But Apache made a front against this project and so it was no chance. The only short-term result was "White Label Office", see for example: http://www.chip.de/downloads/White-Label-Office_53492033.html I do not want to criticize one-sidedly, here is a different view: http://www.golem.de/1112/88663.html But Apache is the larger party and it would be the task of Apache to recognize opportunities and bundle forces. This is unfortunately the truth and it is a central problem for OpenOffice. The only restriction the ASF have is, that you can not collect money in the name of a project as a third party. And Apache itself does not found defelopment. But you can collect money for Features or major bugfixes as a third party. This model is vor sure easyer to setup, if you have some big company who put a load of money to it. In my mind is a collaboration with Source Forge. They rich a load of OpenOffice users. Regards Raphael -- Mein Blog: https://raphaelbircher.blogspot.ch - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Community building: give our User a chance to contribute!
Am .01.2017, 09:24 Uhr, schrieb Peter Kovacs : We see in Star citizen how mighty crowd can be. Maybe a platform would be great where people can pledge money for something they need. If the needed budget is reached, payed developers implement it. Or we could do it as a bonus system. You pledge money on a bug/enhancement, if the bug gets included in the release the developers get a payout. I will ask, on community, how other Apache projects deal with this problem. I have some similar things in mind. This is just an idea. I am not sure if we can do business within the ASF or if we have to found a 3rd party entity for this. It definitely need a external instance. If we have to go 3rd party I prefer a cooperative society as a legal form. https://ec.europa.eu/growth/sectors/social-economy/cooperatives/european-cooperative-society_de All the best Peter Raphael Bircher schrieb am Sa., 14. Jan. 2017, 06:32: Hi at all If we compare AOO to day with the good old OpenOffice.org Project in 2006, we have now a tiny community. Well, we will be able to maintain the project, make some bugfix and maybe some features too. But we will never track down the work who is in our issue tracker. But surprisingly we have still a very height download number. If you read comments on social media you see, that many are really happy with the programm. The problem is, tat this user simply are looked out from the product development. The Enduser can only watch and pray. While most bigger Apache Projects has a well working business model behind, OpenOffice has nothing. In fact we never cared about it. I believe it's rely time to change this. There are maybe at the moment no big investors, but maybe more individuals who love the idea. I know, we have to stick within the Apache rules, but this should be possible. So let's collect ideas here. Regards, Raphael -- Mein Blog: https://raphaelbircher.blogspot.ch - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Disclaimer: Diese Nachricht stammt aus einem Google Account. Ihre Antwort wird in der Google Cloud Gespeichert und durch Google Algorythmen zwecks werbeanaöysen gescannt. Es ist derzeit nicht auszuschließen das ihre Nachricht auch durch einen NSA Mitarbeiter geprüft wird. Durch kommunikation mit diesen Account stimmen Sie zu das ihre Mail, ihre Kontaktdaten und die Termine die Sie mit mir vereinbaren online zu Google konditionen in der Googlecloud gespeichert wird. Sollten sie dies nicht wünschen kontaktieren sie mich bitte Umgehend um z.B. alternativen zu verhandeln. -- Mein Blog: https://raphaelbircher.blogspot.ch - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Community building: give our User a chance to contribute!
Hi at all If we compare AOO to day with the good old OpenOffice.org Project in 2006, we have now a tiny community. Well, we will be able to maintain the project, make some bugfix and maybe some features too. But we will never track down the work who is in our issue tracker. But surprisingly we have still a very height download number. If you read comments on social media you see, that many are really happy with the programm. The problem is, tat this user simply are looked out from the product development. The Enduser can only watch and pray. While most bigger Apache Projects has a well working business model behind, OpenOffice has nothing. In fact we never cared about it. I believe it's rely time to change this. There are maybe at the moment no big investors, but maybe more individuals who love the idea. I know, we have to stick within the Apache rules, but this should be possible. So let's collect ideas here. Regards, Raphael -- Mein Blog: https://raphaelbircher.blogspot.ch - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: future of OpenOffice
Hi Akos Am .01.2017, 08:29 Uhr, schrieb Nagy Ákos : Hi, it is impossible, because the LO license is LGPL+MPL, that can't be merged in OpenOffice. As whole package yes, but you can ask individual contributors to put there code to Apache License 2.0. The single way is that OpenOffice can merge in LibreOffice, more exactly the OpenOffice.org is redirected to LibreOffice.org, because the OO code is outdated compared with LO code. How you know, the AOO Code is outdated? We maintain the code, as LO maintain there code. Please come with facts. The LibreOffice brand now is more popular than OpenOffice, and some other facts: LibreOffice have few hundred new features that OO don't have, LibreOffice have a cloud suit (LibreOffice Online) etc. You can compare the development trends: Libre Office is maybe popular at the Linux world, and even there exist Users who kick LO and install OpenOffice. There are big features in LO who simply shipped over to LO. Native SVG Import. Mac OS X 64 Bit port, and the Sidebar for exemple. Many of the added Features are simply buddled Extensions. More feature dosen't mean a better product. If you add a load of new bugs to the software in the same time, the user will not be happy. https://www.openhub.net/p/openoffice (include webpage and wiki) https://www.openhub.net/p/libreoffice (only application code) Based on financial reports, TDF has income equal to Apache Foundation, and TDF spend all money to LibreOffice, but Apache only a little part from their income spend for OO. Apache spend more or less only the infrastructure. TDF and ASF are not comparebel. ASF does not found individual projects at all. Not even the ApacheCon is founded over ASF budget. Regards, Raphael 2017. 01. 10. 20:43 keltezéssel, suhail ansari írta: Hi, My name is Suhail and I have some suggestions for OpenOffice community. OpenOffice is very popular and it attracts large number of downloads. My suggestion is that Apache software foundation should talk to the document foundation and ask them to merge their foundation with Apache software foundation because Apache is world's biggest open source software foundation and if the document foundation joins Apache then we can have one product (OpenOffice). The ASF has many popular open source software products like hadoop, tomcat, OpenOffice etc. It will be good for both ASF and the document foundation to work together. Suhail Ansari - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Mein Blog: https://raphaelbircher.blogspot.ch - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Booked for FOSDEM
Hi all I've just booked my flight/hotel for FOSDEM. I will be there Saturday/Sunday the whole day. I arrive Friday night and fly back Monday morning. When is the best moment for a developer meetup? Regards, Raphael -- Mein Blog: https://raphaelbircher.blogspot.ch - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Build Problems on Mac
Hi Damian I've done this. Here is the output: https://paste.apache.org/q6ly Regards Raphael Am .12.2016, 11:38 Uhr, schrieb Damjan Jovanovic : Hi What are you building? SVN trunk? If so, we're doing big build changes and a lot will break, especially on Mac, for which we don't have a buildbot and nobody builds regularly. Are you willing to help get it working? If so, for starters, run "build" in main/eventattacher and post the output. Thank you Damjan On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 1:07 AM, Raphael Bircher wrote: Hi all I try to build on my mac, but I run intu a build error. https://paste.apache.org/wo81 If someone has a hint for me... Regards, Raphael -- Mein Blog: https://raphaelbircher.wordpress.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Mein Blog: https://raphaelbircher.wordpress.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: My Open Office logo disappeared from my dock. How do I get it back?
Hi Jim This is the developer mailing list. Please use the User Forum at https://forum.openoffice.org/ for user questions the next time. To answer the question. Go to the Finder and open a Finder window. There you see Application or Program. Klick on it, and search Apache OpenOffice. If you find it, you can simply drag and drop it to the dock. That's the whole magic. Regards Raphael Am .12.2016, 22:34 Uhr, schrieb E.J. Ball : I use Open Office constantly. I don't know why it disappeared from my dock. Help! THANKS, JIM BALL - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Mein Blog: https://raphaelbircher.wordpress.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Build Problems on Mac
Hi all I try to build on my mac, but I run intu a build error. https://paste.apache.org/wo81 If someone has a hint for me... Regards, Raphael -- Mein Blog: https://raphaelbircher.wordpress.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: problems building trunk with options: --enable-pch // --enable-win-x64-shellext
Hi Oliver, I have to look twice, as I read your name. Do you get homesick? For all newer one. Oliver Brinzing was a engeneer at the SUN StarOffice/OpenOffice team. Am 12/28/2016 um 5:34 PM schrieb Oliver Brinzing: i started with aoo414 branch debug build and it worked. then i tried to build from trunk, but failed, until i disabled "--enable-pch". but build always stopped in module "extensions", source/activex/main, already reported: windows build breaks in module extensions - activex https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126996 i removed "--enable-win-x64-shellext", and build finished successful. "enable-win-x64-shellext" seems to set BUILD_X64="TRUE". i noticed, our win buildbots do not use "enable-win-x64-shellext" too. my configuration: ./configure \ --with-dmake-url="http://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2"; \ --with-ant-home="/cygdrive/c/build/ant" \ --with-mozilla-build="/cygdrive/c/build/mozilla-build" \ --with-frame-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft SDKs/Windows/v7.0" \ --with-psdk-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft SDKs/Windows/v7.0" \ --with-midl-path="/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft SDKs/Windows/v7.0/bin" \ --with-cl-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0/VC" \ --with-mspdb-path="/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0/Common7/IDE" \ --with-asm-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0/VC/bin" \ --with-csc-path="/cygdrive/c/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v3.5" \ --with-jdk-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Java/jdk1.7.0" \ --with-nsis-path="/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/NSIS" \ --with-directx-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft DirectX SDK (June 2010)" \ --with-atl-include-dir="/cygdrive/c/WinDDK/7600.16385.1/inc/atl71" \ --with-atl-lib-dir="/cygdrive/c/WinDDK/7600.16385.1/lib/ATL/i386" \ --with-mfc-include-dir="/cygdrive/c/WinDDK/7600.16385.1/inc/mfc42" \ --with-mfc-lib-dir="/cygdrive/c/WinDDK/7600.16385.1/lib/Mfc/i386" \ --with-package-format="installed msi" \ --enable-category-b \ --enable-bundled-dictionaries \ --with-lang="de" \ --without-stlport \ --without-junit \ --enable-verbose \ --disable-odk \ --without-fonts \ --disable-online-update \ --disable-strip-solver \ --enable-symbols \ --enable-dbgutil \ --enable-crashdump \ --enable-debug I'm a bit shocked, about the big list of configuration it needs to build from Windows. Have a nice day Raphael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice on KDE 4 issues
Hi Damian, * Am 12/24/2016 um 1:07 AM schrieb Damjan Jovanovic: On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:06 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On 2016-12-20 20:28 (-0800), Damjan Jovanovic wrote: Hi I am busy porting fpicker to gbuild, and needed to test its KDE 4 version, and ended up fixing a bug there, and a VCL bug on KDE that stopped AOO from starting. However we still have this duplicate text issue in the menu, and dialog corruption: Any KDE users? Any thoughts? Thank you Damjan Mostly, the KDE specific build option is no longer needed. Both KDE and Gnome use Freedesktop interfaces now. That interface via VCL may need some tweaking, I don't know. When I tried to build with "--enable-KDE" at least 2 years ago, it was a bit of a chore due to the overhead of installing the needed KDE development stuff. Better to just concentrate on Freedesktop and ditch the KDE specific code altogether I think. Checking for usage of ENABLE_KDE and ENABLE_KDE4 on OpenGrok: * main/cui/source/options/optgdlg.cxx and main/filepickers/source/unx/kde4 deal with file pickers. * main/shell/source/backends/kdebe reads KDE's network proxy settings, the external mailer, source view font properties, etc. * main/vcl/unx/kde4 deals with libQt's main loop integration, event filtering, decides which controls to draw natively, matches fonts with system fonts, input methods, etc. * main/toolkit/source/layout/core/dialogbuttonhbox.cxx selects ordering for dialog buttons These are generally tasks that go beyond what Freedesktop provides. Thanks for the good analystic work. Maybe this is exactly a problem for the dublicate menus. Maybe OpenOffice renders the manu twice. first with normal Linux and seccond with kde4. And finaly you have the text twice. I have to say, I'm not familiar with this source. It's just a srange idea from an "outside view." Regards, Raphael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Remove survey.openoffice.org (was [Homepage] SSL error on survey.openoffice.org)
Hi Matthias, * It's now https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13167 . Regards Raphael Am 12/23/2016 um 3:56 PM schrieb Matthias Seidel: Hi Raphael, Did you file an issue for that? We could keep the subdomain. But the survey must be deactivated... regards, Matthias P.S.: I wish everyone on the list happy holidays! Am 18.12.2016 um 13:14 schrieb Raphael Bircher: Hi Matthias Let's wait util Tuesday, so everyone has the Chance to react, if we rich lazy consensus, i will fill the issue for the infra. Regards, Raphael Am 12/18/2016 um 12:52 PM schrieb Matthias Seidel: Hi Raphael, I removed the link to that page in the footer of our homepage. However, the sub-domain should definitely be deactivated/removed. So +1 from me. regards, Matthias Am 17.12.2016 um 00:37 schrieb Raphael Bircher: Hi all, Am 12/16/2016 um 11:54 PM schrieb Matthias Seidel: Hi Marcus, Yes, that should be easy... But who takes care of the misconfigured sub-domain? If it is not used, it should be deleted. It still is available over http... I asked Infra. If we want to delete the subdomain, we have to fill an issue for ASFInfra. But I think, first we should get lazy consensus. Regards, Raphael regards, Matthias Am 16.12.2016 um 23:02 schrieb Marcus: Am 12/13/2016 10:49 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel: On our Homepage there is a link "Website Feedback" in the footer. It links to https://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/833861/lang-en With Firefox I get: SSL_ERROR_RX_RECORD_TOO_LONG with Chrome: ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR With http the page can be accessed, so it is an SSL error on that sub-domain. Is this something we can fix or should Infra be contacted? I would delete the link as it is no longer used. So, the fix could be easy. ;-) Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Serf is outdate
Hi at all Apache Serf is outdate in the library. Moast probabily use the serf on the machine. Bit we should update it on the ext_source list too. Regards, Raphael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Added the new ASF logo to the install files
Hi Matthias Am 12/21/2016 um 1:14 PM schrieb Matthias Seidel: Hi Raphael, Looks good! Did you create a bugzilla issue for that? yea. https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127253 I would then ask for release_blocker_4.1.4... You realy think, it is a blocker? Ok, the changes ar more then trivial. but I don't think, it's a blocker. But anyway, we can take over it on the 4.1.4 Branch anyway. Actualy it's only in the trunk. Regards, Raphael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [BUILD] Building not possible due to missing java downloader
Hi all I ran into the same problem. But I have an Idea, where it commes from. I think, the download link from sernf is broken. I wrote about it on my very first days of my comeback here. Regards, Raphael Am 12/19/2016 um 4:57 AM schrieb Damjan Jovanovic: We are using the Perl downloader once again. Have you rerun autoconf and configure? Damjan On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Marcus wrote: After some weeks I've updated my trunk repo and wahted to do a new build. Now bootstrap tells me that it cannot find the AOOJavaDownloader and in "main/solenv/" it's actaully no longer existing. Sorry when I've missed a previous discussion about this. What has to be changed in the build scripts? Thanks Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Homepage] SSL error on survey.openoffice.org
Hi Matthias, * Am 12/18/2016 um 1:13 PM schrieb Matthias Seidel: I understood Raphael in that way, that he added the new logo to the (Windows) installer? Yea, exactly to the Windows installer and the Mac dmg immages. I changed the display size of the graphic to fit in the footer. The new one looks really good! Yea, they look realy good, much better than the old one. I can't wait to get some stickers for my laptop. I hope Rich bring some to the FOSDEM Regards, Raphael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Remove survey.openoffice.org (was [Homepage] SSL error on survey.openoffice.org)
Hi Matthias Let's wait util Tuesday, so everyone has the Chance to react, if we rich lazy consensus, i will fill the issue for the infra. Regards, Raphael Am 12/18/2016 um 12:52 PM schrieb Matthias Seidel: Hi Raphael, I removed the link to that page in the footer of our homepage. However, the sub-domain should definitely be deactivated/removed. So +1 from me. regards, Matthias Am 17.12.2016 um 00:37 schrieb Raphael Bircher: Hi all, Am 12/16/2016 um 11:54 PM schrieb Matthias Seidel: Hi Marcus, Yes, that should be easy... But who takes care of the misconfigured sub-domain? If it is not used, it should be deleted. It still is available over http... I asked Infra. If we want to delete the subdomain, we have to fill an issue for ASFInfra. But I think, first we should get lazy consensus. Regards, Raphael regards, Matthias Am 16.12.2016 um 23:02 schrieb Marcus: Am 12/13/2016 10:49 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel: On our Homepage there is a link "Website Feedback" in the footer. It links to https://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/833861/lang-en With Firefox I get: SSL_ERROR_RX_RECORD_TOO_LONG with Chrome: ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR With http the page can be accessed, so it is an SSL error on that sub-domain. Is this something we can fix or should Infra be contacted? I would delete the link as it is no longer used. So, the fix could be easy. ;-) Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Added the new ASF logo to the install files
Hi all I've added the new ASF Logo to the Installer bitmap. I committed it as r1774839. I hope I forgot no one. If there is something wrong, I'm the person to hit. ;-) Regards, Raphael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: SVN broken and unable to revert bad commit
Hi Damjan Am 12/17/2016 um 7:43 PM schrieb Damjan Jovanovic: Hi I committed a patch in 1774747 that makes AOO crash on startup on both FreeBSD and Linux, but I am struggling to revert it in SVN. Every time I try to commit: svn: E175002: Commit failed (details follow): svn: E175002: Unexpected server error 500 'Internal Server Error' on '/repos/asf/!svn/me' svn: E175002: Your commit message was left in a temporary file: Any ideas? According Infra LDAP have had a problem. It should be solved now, Try again. Regards, Raphael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Homepage] SSL error on survey.openoffice.org
Hi all, Am 12/16/2016 um 11:54 PM schrieb Matthias Seidel: Hi Marcus, Yes, that should be easy... But who takes care of the misconfigured sub-domain? If it is not used, it should be deleted. It still is available over http... I asked Infra. If we want to delete the subdomain, we have to fill an issue for ASFInfra. But I think, first we should get lazy consensus. Regards, Raphael regards, Matthias Am 16.12.2016 um 23:02 schrieb Marcus: Am 12/13/2016 10:49 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel: On our Homepage there is a link "Website Feedback" in the footer. It links to https://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/833861/lang-en With Firefox I get: SSL_ERROR_RX_RECORD_TOO_LONG with Chrome: ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR With http the page can be accessed, so it is an SSL error on that sub-domain. Is this something we can fix or should Infra be contacted? I would delete the link as it is no longer used. So, the fix could be easy. ;-) Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Homepage] SSL error on survey.openoffice.org
Hi Matthias, Marcus and the rest, Am 12/16/2016 um 11:54 PM schrieb Matthias Seidel: Hi Marcus, Yes, that should be easy... But who takes care of the misconfigured sub-domain? If it is not used, it should be deleted. It still is available over http... We should contact Infra for this, thy take care about subdomain. I will ask them. Regards Raphael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Is there a DEV Version of OpenOffice wich can be downloaded
Hi Pedro, * Am 12/16/2016 um 8:04 PM schrieb Pedro: Is there a OpenOffice version with a changed User Profile (AOODev or something like this) . I needed one for Automated tests on Windows. There is no need for a AOODev version. You can install as many versions as you like in parallel with a separate profile https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Run_OOo_versions_parallel#Windows I know there was a easy solution, but it was not in my mind anymore. Maybe I was too long on Mac. there you can use a durty hack. Thanks to point me to the Windows solution. Regards, Raphael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Is there a DEV Version of OpenOffice wich can be downloaded
Hi Msrcus Am 12/16/2016 um 6:02 PM schrieb Marcus: Am 12/15/2016 07:29 PM, schrieb Raphael Bircher: Is ther a OpenOffice version with a changed User Profile (AOODev or something like this) . I needed one for Automated tests on Windows. AFAIK we don't build any DEV builds but only RELEASE builds on our buildbots. Do you really need a DEV build or can you test also with the normal RELEASE builds? I can use normal builds, but I can't use a productive AOO. The VCLAuto crashs sometimes the User Profile. But with VM it works. Regards, Raphael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Is there a DEV Version of OpenOffice wich can be downloaded
Hi at all Is ther a OpenOffice version with a changed User Profile (AOODev or something like this) . I needed one for Automated tests on Windows. Regards, Raphael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org