RE: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Message- From: Basil Cousins [mailto:ba...@openforumeurope.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 05:49 To: Dennis Hamilton Cc: Stuart Mackintosh ; dev ; Graham Taylor Subject: Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets Dennis, So many thanks fro your support. We are in the last knockings

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-09 Thread Basil Cousins
t; *From:* Stuart J Mackintosh [mailto:s...@opusvl.com] > *Sent:* Monday, September 7, 2015 10:35 > *To:* orc...@apache.org > *Cc:* dev@openoffice.apache.org; Graham Taylor ; > 'Andrea Pescetti' ; Basil Cousins < > ba...@openforumeurope.org> > *Subject:* Re: ODF Plug

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-08 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 06/09/2015 Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: This is what we should learn—some suggested guidelines Good suggestions. I agree. More comments below. * ODF Plugfests are something we care about and deem important. OK, and this means we have to be there. * If community members are able and willin

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-08 Thread Basil Cousins
though. > > > > Regards, > > > > - Dennis > > > > *From:* Stuart J Mackintosh [mailto:s...@opusvl.com] > *Sent:* Sunday, September 6, 2015 08:52 > *To:* Andrea Pescetti ; dev@openoffice.apache.org > *Cc:* 'Graham Taylor' > *Subject:* Re: ODF

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-07 Thread Stuart J Mackintosh
ffice.apache.org> *Cc:* 'Graham Taylor' <mailto:gra...@openforumeurope.org>> *Subject:* Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets Andrea, On reflection, we were not comfortable with the previously published "Application Choices" table,

RE: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-07 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
; Graham Taylor ; 'Andrea Pescetti' ; Basil Cousins Subject: Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets Dennis, Thank you for supporting this initiative and providing the response from the AOO community. I will include the AOO entry in the Application Choices table as proposed.

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-07 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 07 Sep 15, at 12:09, Roberto Galoppini wrote: > > Agreed, and I'm really sorry I couldn't make it. In future we might want to > have a small team of people who knows how ODF Plugfests work and are > willing to attend, give a speech and run tests. I believe we need all these > three pieces t

RE: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-07 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
for the Plugfest seems doubtful. The topic is still open though. Regards, - Dennis From: Stuart J Mackintosh [mailto:s...@opusvl.com] Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 08:52 To: Andrea Pescetti ; dev@openoffice.apache.org Cc: 'Graham Taylor' Subject: Re: ODF Plugfest: part

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-07 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2015-09-05 12:49 GMT+02:00 Andrea Pescetti : > Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > >> Great!! My mistake. Go for it: [PROPOSE], [DISCUSS], whatever. >> > > Being realistic, this won't help much at this stage. Every message where > we politely ask each other to start a proper discussion is a waste of time

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-06 Thread Stuart J Mackintosh
Andrea, On reflection, we were not comfortable with the previously published "Application Choices" table, we feel it was not fully considered, so it will be replaced in this version. I have included the proposed replacement table at the end of this email We don't CC you on all replies, but y

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-06 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Stuart J Mackintosh wrote: On reflection, we were not comfortable with the previously published "Application Choices" table, we feel it was not fully considered, so it will be replaced in this version. I have included the proposed replacement table at the end of this email We don't CC you on a

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-05 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 05 Sep 15, at 06:49, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > For 1) we have Louis' availability but by the time everything is approved it > will be unrealistic that he can still arrange an intercontinental flight > (which is a pity since we started discussing the Plugfest attendance three > months ag

RE: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Thanks Andrea, that answers all of my questions about the update and what is being updated. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 12:02 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-05 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: I am missing context. Where are you seeing this information and where do you propose to submit the updates? It is page 5 of http://openforumeurope.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/OFE-COIS-DFD-ODF-Open-Document-Principles-for-Government-Technology-March-2015.pdf (the

RE: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
documents (i.e., not "strict" as some want, and not automatically interoperable)? - Dennis -Original Message- From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 03:49 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: ODF Plugfest: participation an

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-05 Thread Kay Schenk
On 09/05/2015 03:49 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: >> Great!! My mistake. Go for it: [PROPOSE], [DISCUSS], whatever. > > Being realistic, this won't help much at this stage. Every message where > we politely ask each other to start a proper discussion is a waste of > tim

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-05 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 05/09/2015 Dave Fisher wrote: If we have funded the leaflet before then I have objections. ... Excuse me I meant NO objections. Sorry. We've never funded it before anyway. Apache OpenOffice never funded participation of people in ODF Plugfests or production of associated leaflets/material

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-05 Thread Dave Fisher
Excuse me I meant NO objections. Sorry. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 5, 2015, at 8:04 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > I see no objections to the wording. > > If we have funded the leaflet before then I have objections. If not and this > is permitted then I am for LAZY CONSENSUS. > > That covers 2

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-05 Thread Dave Fisher
I see no objections to the wording. If we have funded the leaflet before then I have objections. If not and this is permitted then I am for LAZY CONSENSUS. That covers 2 and 3. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 5, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > Dennis E. Hamilton wrot

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-05 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Great!! My mistake. Go for it: [PROPOSE], [DISCUSS], whatever. Being realistic, this won't help much at this stage. Every message where we politely ask each other to start a proper discussion is a waste of time given the very close deadlines. Note that I am not in

RE: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
; Dennis E. Hamilton Subject: Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets Hi all, > On 04 Sep 15, at 22:13, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > > I think the idea is to work toward consensus. The proposal of a [VOTE] on a > matter not yet made specific and discussed is not particularly advisab

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-04 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
the would lead in the end to action. Louis > > - Dennis > > -Original Message- > From: Louis Suárez-Potts [mailto:lui...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 18:20 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets > >

RE: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
in the United States. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Louis Suárez-Potts [mailto:lui...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 18:20 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets Roberto, do you want to initiate the discussion for a vote by

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-04 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Roberto, do you want to initiate the discussion for a vote by the community including the binding PMC members? I would prefer to keep it all public and just have the PMC members indicate at vote their status. But go ahead and let’s get the issue a) clarified and b) framed in such a way that we

RE: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
for things to quiet down. - Dennis From: Basil Cousins [mailto:ba...@openforumeurope.org] Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 05:32 To: Roberto Galoppini Cc: dev ; Stuart Mackintosh ; Graham Taylor Subject: Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets Hi Roberto, Great to be in touch. I

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-04 Thread Basil Cousins
Hi Roberto, Great to be in touch. I will ask Graham Taylor to raise an invoice for £100+VAT to cover the English Version. Can you let us have the address to be put on the invoice? Shal we use the same logo as in the London version for Apache Open Office or is there a more recent one? Basil Bas

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-04 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
ast, the answer edges toward "no." :-) louis > > - Dennis > > From: Stuart J Mackintosh [mailto:s...@opusvl.com] > Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 10:27 > To: orc...@apache.org; dev@openoffice.apache.org; 'Roberto Galoppini' > > Cc: 'Grah

RE: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
ppini' Cc: 'Graham Taylor' Subject: Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets Dennis, Do you have a hard deadline, and is that imminent? Sorry that this came so late for you. As I am sure you understand, it takes time to muster volunteer commitment so we are somewhat against the

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-04 Thread Stuart J Mackintosh
; Stuart Mackintosh ; Graham Taylor Subject: Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets Roberto, The designers are pressing us hard. I will put in Apache OO Logo provisionally. OK? Basil On 4 September 2015 at 15:37, Roberto Galoppini wrote: Basil, I'm sure you'll get an answer, bu

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-04 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
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RE: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
2015 08:12 To: Roberto Galoppini Cc: dev ; Stuart Mackintosh ; Graham Taylor Subject: Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets Roberto, The designers are pressing us hard. I will put in Apache OO Logo provisionally. OK? Basil On 4 September 2015 at 15:37, Roberto Galoppini wrote: &g

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-04 Thread Basil Cousins
Roberto, The designers are pressing us hard. I will put in Apache OO Logo provisionally. OK? Basil On 4 September 2015 at 15:37, Roberto Galoppini wrote: > Basil, > > I'm sure you'll get an answer, but unfortunately I can't commit to provide > you with an answer in a short time frame. Our Ch

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-04 Thread Roberto Galoppini
Basil, I'm sure you'll get an answer, but unfortunately I can't commit to provide you with an answer in a short time frame. Our Chair will sort out a way to manage this situation, though. Roberto 2015-09-04 16:25 GMT+02:00 Basil Cousins : > Roberto, > > We need to close very soon. When can you

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-04 Thread Roberto Galoppini
Hi Basil, Nice to catch up again. I want to clarify that here I'm expressing only my opinion, we do need the PMC to establish if we want - as a community - to sponsor the English version. Thanks, 2015-09-04 14:31 GMT+02:00 Basil Cousins : > Hi Roberto, > > Great to be in touch. I will ask Gra

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-04 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2015-09-04 5:06 GMT+02:00 Louis Suárez-Potts : > Hi all, > Comments inline. > > > > On 03 Sep 15, at 16:24, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > > > As we discussed some weeks ago, the next ODF Plugfest will be held in > The Hague, Netherlands, mid-September: > > http://plugfest.opendocumentformat.org/2015

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-03 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Hi all, Comments inline. > On 03 Sep 15, at 16:24, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > As we discussed some weeks ago, the next ODF Plugfest will be held in The > Hague, Netherlands, mid-September: > http://plugfest.opendocumentformat.org/2015-thehague/programme/ > > There are three issues that requi