Re: Windows 8.

[Marcus (OOo)]

Am 02/19/2014 10:09 PM, schrieb Peter Carr:

Can Open Office be used on a computer running Windows 8 or 8.1?.
If so is there any known incompatibility issues?.


I'm not a Windows 8 user but at least the system requirements [1] state 
that AOO 4.0.1 is compatible with Windows 8.


[1] http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_aoo40.html

HTH

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Re: Windows 8.

[Dave Barton]

 Original Message  
From: Peter Carr 
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 16:09:18 -0500

> Can Open Office be used on a computer running Windows 8 or 8.1?.
> If so is there any known incompatibility issues?.

Yes it can be used on both. I am using it on XP, Vista, 7, 8 & 8.1
computers and have not encountered any difference in operation or
performance.

Dave



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Windows 8.

[Peter Carr]

Can Open Office be used on a computer running Windows 8 or 8.1?.
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Re: Windows 8

[Oliver-Rainer Wittmann]

Hi,

On 18.02.2014 08:22, Amit Mittal wrote:

I have successfully built open office on my Windows 8 machine without
facing much issues except cygwin related setup problems :)



cool.
It would be great, if you could document your experience on the related 
wiki pages. Thx in advance.


Best regards, Oliver.


-amit


On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Varun Bezzam wrote:


Thanks for your help

On 2/10/14, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann  wrote:

Hi,

On 10.02.2014 09:09, Andre Fischer wrote:

On 08.02.2014 14:06, Varun Bezzam wrote:

Hi Everybody!
I have noticed that the official Building on Windows page
does not have any information on Building For Windows 8. My laptop
runs Windows 8. Is this a problem? Should I install a different OS?


No, don't install a different OS :-)
But you may also want to look at [1] and [2].


and at [3] as this one should contain the complete prerequists for
Building AOO on Windows.

[3]


https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Building_on_Windows



Best regards, Oliver.


And it would be great if
you note anything that does not work on Windows 8 as described and how
you solved it, so that we can add a section for Windows 8 to the wiki
pages.

Thanks,
Andre

[1] https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO
[2]


https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Windows_7




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Re: Windows 8

[Amit Mittal]

I have successfully built open office on my Windows 8 machine without
facing much issues except cygwin related setup problems :)

-amit


On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Varun Bezzam wrote:

> Thanks for your help
>
> On 2/10/14, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 10.02.2014 09:09, Andre Fischer wrote:
> >> On 08.02.2014 14:06, Varun Bezzam wrote:
> >>> Hi Everybody!
> >>>I have noticed that the official Building on Windows page
> >>> does not have any information on Building For Windows 8. My laptop
> >>> runs Windows 8. Is this a problem? Should I install a different OS?
> >>
> >> No, don't install a different OS :-)
> >> But you may also want to look at [1] and [2].
> >
> > and at [3] as this one should contain the complete prerequists for
> > Building AOO on Windows.
> >
> > [3]
> >
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Building_on_Windows
> >
> >
> > Best regards, Oliver.
> >
> >> And it would be great if
> >> you note anything that does not work on Windows 8 as described and how
> >> you solved it, so that we can add a section for Windows 8 to the wiki
> >> pages.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Andre
> >>
> >> [1] https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO
> >> [2]
> >>
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Windows_7
> >>
> >>
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> >>> Varun.
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Re: Windows 8

[Varun Bezzam]

Thanks for your help

On 2/10/14, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 10.02.2014 09:09, Andre Fischer wrote:
>> On 08.02.2014 14:06, Varun Bezzam wrote:
>>> Hi Everybody!
>>>I have noticed that the official Building on Windows page
>>> does not have any information on Building For Windows 8. My laptop
>>> runs Windows 8. Is this a problem? Should I install a different OS?
>>
>> No, don't install a different OS :-)
>> But you may also want to look at [1] and [2].
>
> and at [3] as this one should contain the complete prerequists for
> Building AOO on Windows.
>
> [3]
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Building_on_Windows
>
>
> Best regards, Oliver.
>
>> And it would be great if
>> you note anything that does not work on Windows 8 as described and how
>> you solved it, so that we can add a section for Windows 8 to the wiki
>> pages.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Andre
>>
>> [1] https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO
>> [2]
>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Windows_7
>>
>>
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>>> Varun.
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Re: Windows 8

[Oliver-Rainer Wittmann]

Hi,

On 10.02.2014 09:09, Andre Fischer wrote:

On 08.02.2014 14:06, Varun Bezzam wrote:

Hi Everybody!
   I have noticed that the official Building on Windows page
does not have any information on Building For Windows 8. My laptop
runs Windows 8. Is this a problem? Should I install a different OS?


No, don't install a different OS :-)
But you may also want to look at [1] and [2].


and at [3] as this one should contain the complete prerequists for 
Building AOO on Windows.


[3] 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Building_on_Windows



Best regards, Oliver.


And it would be great if
you note anything that does not work on Windows 8 as described and how
you solved it, so that we can add a section for Windows 8 to the wiki
pages.

Thanks,
Andre

[1] https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO
[2]
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Windows_7



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Re: Windows 8

[Andre Fischer]

On 08.02.2014 14:06, Varun Bezzam wrote:

Hi Everybody!
   I have noticed that the official Building on Windows page
does not have any information on Building For Windows 8. My laptop
runs Windows 8. Is this a problem? Should I install a different OS?


No, don't install a different OS :-)
But you may also want to look at [1] and [2].  And it would be great if 
you note anything that does not work on Windows 8 as described and how 
you solved it, so that we can add a section for Windows 8 to the wiki pages.


Thanks,
Andre

[1] https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO
[2] 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Windows_7



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Windows 8

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does not have any information on Building For Windows 8. My laptop
runs Windows 8. Is this a problem? Should I install a different OS?
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Re: paste／clipboard not functioning in writer, windows 8

[Hagar Delest]

Le 28/07/2013 18:39, Kay Schenk a écrit :

On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 12:24 AM, Hagar Delest wrote:


There are 2 bug reports, I guess that we can make one the duplicate of the
other:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=113171
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=49907
Forum topic updated with the relevant topics and bug reports.

Hagar



I hope the folks on issue 113171 can re-test with AOO 4.0. I went through a
few of the steps just now on AOO 4.0 with my Linux version and everything
works as expected. One system clipboard doing what you would expect.


I don't think that bugs are fixed this easily!
Note that this bug is not that frequent. So wait and see.

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Re: paste／clipboard not functioning in writer, windows 8

[Kay Schenk]

On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 12:24 AM, Hagar Delest wrote:

> There are 2 bug reports, I guess that we can make one the duplicate of the
> other:
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=113171<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=113171>
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=49907<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=49907>
> Forum topic updated with the relevant topics and bug reports.
>
> Hagar
>

I hope the folks on issue 113171 can re-test with AOO 4.0. I went through a
few of the steps just now on AOO 4.0 with my Linux version and everything
works as expected. One system clipboard doing what you would expect.


>
> Le 27/07/2013 01:09, Kay Schenk a écrit :
>
>
>  On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:59 PM, Lay Saw  wrote:
>>
>>  Hi, Open Office developer,
>>>
>>>
>>> I am using writer in windows 8, but keep facing the clipboard paste
>>> function not working properly, could not find any solution to that. Most
>>> discuasion I can find is in Win 7：
>>> http://forum.openoffice.org/**en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=**60299<http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=60299>
>>>
>>> Can you please enlighten me?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Lay
>>>
>>>
>>>  Hello Lay --
>>
>> I took a look at this Forum discussion. I can not enlighten you, but it
>> would help us a great deal if you could file a bug issue for this problem.
>>
>> There are some other issues related to cutting and pasting and clipboard
>> already. It would help if we had more specific examples to investigate
>> this
>> and fix these problems.
>>
>> Link to Apache OpenOffice Bugzilla.
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/
>>
>> Thank you for reporting this.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Sent from Windows Mail
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: paste／clipboard not functioning in writer, windows 8

[Hagar Delest]

There are 2 bug reports, I guess that we can make one the duplicate of the 
other:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=113171
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=49907
Forum topic updated with the relevant topics and bug reports.

Hagar

Le 27/07/2013 01:09, Kay Schenk a écrit :


On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:59 PM, Lay Saw  wrote:


Hi, Open Office developer,


I am using writer in windows 8, but keep facing the clipboard paste
function not working properly, could not find any solution to that. Most
discuasion I can find is in Win 7：
http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=60299

Can you please enlighten me?


Thanks

Lay



Hello Lay --

I took a look at this Forum discussion. I can not enlighten you, but it
would help us a great deal if you could file a bug issue for this problem.

There are some other issues related to cutting and pasting and clipboard
already. It would help if we had more specific examples to investigate this
and fix these problems.

Link to Apache OpenOffice Bugzilla.

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/

Thank you for reporting this.






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Re: paste／clipboard not functioning in writer, windows 8

[Kay Schenk]

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:59 PM, Lay Saw  wrote:

> Hi, Open Office developer,
>
>
> I am using writer in windows 8, but keep facing the clipboard paste
> function not working properly, could not find any solution to that. Most
> discuasion I can find is in Win 7：
> http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=60299
>
> Can you please enlighten me?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Lay
>
>
Hello Lay --

I took a look at this Forum discussion. I can not enlighten you, but it
would help us a great deal if you could file a bug issue for this problem.

There are some other issues related to cutting and pasting and clipboard
already. It would help if we had more specific examples to investigate this
and fix these problems.

Link to Apache OpenOffice Bugzilla.

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/

Thank you for reporting this.



>
>
> Sent from Windows Mail




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paste／clipboard not functioning in writer, windows 8

[Lay Saw]

Hi, Open Office developer,


I am using writer in windows 8, but keep facing the clipboard paste function 
not working properly, could not find any solution to that. Most discuasion I 
can find is in Win 
7：http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=60299

Can you please enlighten me?


Thanks

Lay



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Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

[Andrea Pescetti]

Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

I plan to start the vote now until late Friday afternoon (5:00pm UTC+2),
that I am able to prepare everything before I will be away for some days.


This is OK with me. What is important is that we reset the feedback we 
had on the previous RC and that we only count votes on the new RC (RC2 
as you called it in the new thread you started).


It must be clear what we are voting upon, and indeed sources for RC2 
have been available and announced since yesterday.


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Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

[Jürgen Schmidt]

On 7/17/13 9:02 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 7/16/13 9:57 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> Dave Fisher wrote:
>>> Let's not make a big deal out of our quality process and then skip a
>>> REQUIRED part of the Foundation's process.
>>
>> Exactly. We will need a new vote here. Thank you everybody for how this
>> issue has been handled. I think that Rob's blog post captures very
>> nicely the values and strengths of this community.
> 
> I disagree here, we should take into account who does the work.
> 
> The from ASF perspective important src release is available since
> yesterday evening and I planned to start the vote yesterday but the mail
> didn't left my mail program :-(. Everybody who is interested, able or
> willing to test this src release can do that since yesterday. No need to
> wait on an official vote start.
> 
> Binaries for Mac and Windows are also available. Only by a typo in my
> script the language packs are still in the process.
> 
> I plan to start the vote now until late Friday afternoon (5:00pm UTC+2),
> that I am able to prepare everything before I will be away for some days.
> 
> If that is not ok for some people please let me know and I will skip my
> plan. This has nothing to do with less quality but simply with pragmatism.

to make it even more clear for those people who only looking on the 72
hr. I would like to prepare my part and finish it before I leave. When
the files on dist there is still some work to do. SF have to synchronize
the files to their mirrors over the weekend, final test of the download
links etc. And hopefully everything is in place until Monday that the
final release preparation can be finished and the release can go out.

Juergen


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Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

[Jürgen Schmidt]

On 7/16/13 9:57 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> Dave Fisher wrote:
>> Let's not make a big deal out of our quality process and then skip a
>> REQUIRED part of the Foundation's process.
> 
> Exactly. We will need a new vote here. Thank you everybody for how this
> issue has been handled. I think that Rob's blog post captures very
> nicely the values and strengths of this community.

I disagree here, we should take into account who does the work.

The from ASF perspective important src release is available since
yesterday evening and I planned to start the vote yesterday but the mail
didn't left my mail program :-(. Everybody who is interested, able or
willing to test this src release can do that since yesterday. No need to
wait on an official vote start.

Binaries for Mac and Windows are also available. Only by a typo in my
script the language packs are still in the process.

I plan to start the vote now until late Friday afternoon (5:00pm UTC+2),
that I am able to prepare everything before I will be away for some days.

If that is not ok for some people please let me know and I will skip my
plan. This has nothing to do with less quality but simply with pragmatism.

Juergen


> 
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>   Andrea.
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Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

[Marcus (OOo)]

Am 07/16/2013 07:28 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:

Putting on my Apache Member Hat. I do have an issue with skipping a re-vote.



OK.  I did say, "If there are no objections..".   It sounds like there
are some concerns, so let's just run the full ceremony run through.

It may be possible to wrap the voting up by the end of the week, but
it will be better (for press coverage) to have the announcement occur
next Monday than at the end of the week.  If we aim for Monday that,
hopefully, will give everyone ample time for the vote as well as
post-vote activities.


Sounds good, also an announcement on Tuesday would be not too bad (in case).

Should be enough time for finalizing things like upload to SF, mirror 
distribution, release notes, blog post, annoucement, DL website tests, etc.


Marcus




PMC members are checking signatures and checksums? And we are verifying that 
the source tag matches the RC for source? These are guaranteed to change with 
the re-spin.

Let's not make a big deal out of our quality process and then skip a REQUIRED 
part of the Foundation's process.

Thanks,
Dave

On Jul 16, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:


On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:39 AM, Jürgen Schmidtwrote:


On 7/16/13 1:06 PM, Peter Junge wrote:

On 7/16/2013 6:55 PM, Max Merbald wrote:

Hi Jürgen,

I just tried the same action with both AOO 4 without your dll file and
with it, using even the very same file where I had that crash on June
22, but in neither case did I have a crash this time. I think I'll work
a bit more with Openoffice 4 now and if anything of the kind happens
again I'll report right away and write down the exact circumstances. I
think it might be possible that it happens only in very special
circumstances, maybe dependant on which other software you're running
while working with AOO 4.


I also gave it a try on Windows 8 (64 bit) and there's no sign of a

crash.


Elaborating further on particular conditions. Maybe it's related to
specific hardware, e.g. graphics card?

@Samer: As you seem to be able to reproduce the issue constantly, do you
have any special hardware?


it is not easy for me to decide at the moment. What do others think? A
respin means rebuilding all platforms, signing and uploading the new
files. And then another vote cycle of 72 hr.



I don't have an issue with NOT re-voting. This is after all, ONE
(significant) bug fix as opposed to the integrity of the whole product.
Will changed source with one date be a problem with existing sig files?
That's my only concern.




I personally will run into a time problem because I have to move into a
new flat and will be offline for some days until Thursday of next week.
It's no big deal and somebody else can do the work and a good release is
of course important ;-)






If we want a respin than we have to decide today and ideally until 3:00
pm (UTC +2).


Juergen



Peter




Max


Am 16.07.2013 11:48, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:

On 7/16/13 9:56 AM, Herbert Duerr wrote:

On 15.07.2013 22:47, Rob Weir wrote:

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Samer Mansour
wrote:

I logged my comments in the bug, I searched the db before I opened
a new
bug sorry if its a duplicate.

It is windows 8 64-bit. Crashes on copy and cut.  Paste seems to
not be
affected.

The four steps Rob gave in the bug are the minimum required steps to
reproduce.


An update on this crash.  I was eventually able to reproduce it on
Windows 8, 64-bit.  This was an initial install, not an upgrade.
Samer saw it on an upgrade install.

I worked on the stack trace with Herbert (fortunately my Windows 8
machine had a debugger installed).  Herbert gave me a patch to test.
It appears to work on my machine.  We're waiting to hear back from
Samer on whether it worked for him.

If anyone else was able to reproduce the problem then we'd love to

know

whether the DLL at http://people.apache.org/~hdu/sysdtrans.dll
solves the problem. It contains the patch I suggested in issue 122752.

To test it please
- download the DLL
- copy it into the OpenOffice program folder, on most systems this

will

be the folder C:\Program Files (x86)\OpenOffice 4\program\
- if the system warns you that you are overwriting a program file then
please confirm with YES, as that is exactly what is wanted
- run your tests again that used to crash it

nobody out there who is able to reproduce the problem and can say that
Herbert's fix is solving the problem?

We have reviewed the patch from Herbert with 3 people and the patch is
save. The fix solved the issue for Rob who was able to reproduce the
problem partly before he used the patched library.

Windows 8 becomes more and more important on the desktop and windows is
our main platform. I tend to a respin at the moment but will wait 1-2
hours longer to receive potentially more feedback.

Juergen


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Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

[Andrea Pescetti]

Dave Fisher wrote:

Let's not make a big deal out of our quality process and then skip a
REQUIRED part of the Foundation's process.


Exactly. We will need a new vote here. Thank you everybody for how this 
issue has been handled. I think that Rob's blog post captures very 
nicely the values and strengths of this community.


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Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

[Rob Weir]

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> Putting on my Apache Member Hat. I do have an issue with skipping a re-vote.
>

OK.  I did say, "If there are no objections..".   It sounds like there
are some concerns, so let's just run the full ceremony run through.

It may be possible to wrap the voting up by the end of the week, but
it will be better (for press coverage) to have the announcement occur
next Monday than at the end of the week.  If we aim for Monday that,
hopefully, will give everyone ample time for the vote as well as
post-vote activities.

Regards,

-Rob


> PMC members are checking signatures and checksums? And we are verifying that 
> the source tag matches the RC for source? These are guaranteed to change with 
> the re-spin.
>
> Let's not make a big deal out of our quality process and then skip a REQUIRED 
> part of the Foundation's process.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
> On Jul 16, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:39 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/16/13 1:06 PM, Peter Junge wrote:
>>>> On 7/16/2013 6:55 PM, Max Merbald wrote:
>>>>> Hi Jürgen,
>>>>>
>>>>> I just tried the same action with both AOO 4 without your dll file and
>>>>> with it, using even the very same file where I had that crash on June
>>>>> 22, but in neither case did I have a crash this time. I think I'll work
>>>>> a bit more with Openoffice 4 now and if anything of the kind happens
>>>>> again I'll report right away and write down the exact circumstances. I
>>>>> think it might be possible that it happens only in very special
>>>>> circumstances, maybe dependant on which other software you're running
>>>>> while working with AOO 4.
>>>>
>>>> I also gave it a try on Windows 8 (64 bit) and there's no sign of a
>>> crash.
>>>>
>>>> Elaborating further on particular conditions. Maybe it's related to
>>>> specific hardware, e.g. graphics card?
>>>>
>>>> @Samer: As you seem to be able to reproduce the issue constantly, do you
>>>> have any special hardware?
>>>
>>> it is not easy for me to decide at the moment. What do others think? A
>>> respin means rebuilding all platforms, signing and uploading the new
>>> files. And then another vote cycle of 72 hr.
>>>
>>
>> I don't have an issue with NOT re-voting. This is after all, ONE
>> (significant) bug fix as opposed to the integrity of the whole product.
>> Will changed source with one date be a problem with existing sig files?
>> That's my only concern.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I personally will run into a time problem because I have to move into a
>>> new flat and will be offline for some days until Thursday of next week.
>>> It's no big deal and somebody else can do the work and a good release is
>>> of course important ;-)
>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> If we want a respin than we have to decide today and ideally until 3:00
>>> pm (UTC +2).
>>>
>>>
>>> Juergen
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Max
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 16.07.2013 11:48, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
>>>>>> On 7/16/13 9:56 AM, Herbert Duerr wrote:
>>>>>>> On 15.07.2013 22:47, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Samer Mansour 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I logged my comments in the bug, I searched the db before I opened
>>>>>>>>> a new
>>>>>>>>> bug sorry if its a duplicate.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is windows 8 64-bit. Crashes on copy and cut.  Paste seems to
>>>>>>>>> not be
>>>>>>>>> affected.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The four steps Rob gave in the bug are the minimum required steps to
>>>>>>>>> reproduce.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> An update on this crash.  I was eventually able to reproduce it on
>>>>>>>> Windows 8, 64-bit.  This was an initial install, not an upgrade.
>>>>>>>> Samer saw it on an upgrade install.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I worked on t

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

[Dave Fisher]

Putting on my Apache Member Hat. I do have an issue with skipping a re-vote.

PMC members are checking signatures and checksums? And we are verifying that 
the source tag matches the RC for source? These are guaranteed to change with 
the re-spin.

Let's not make a big deal out of our quality process and then skip a REQUIRED 
part of the Foundation's process.

Thanks,
Dave

On Jul 16, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:39 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> 
>> On 7/16/13 1:06 PM, Peter Junge wrote:
>>> On 7/16/2013 6:55 PM, Max Merbald wrote:
>>>> Hi Jürgen,
>>>> 
>>>> I just tried the same action with both AOO 4 without your dll file and
>>>> with it, using even the very same file where I had that crash on June
>>>> 22, but in neither case did I have a crash this time. I think I'll work
>>>> a bit more with Openoffice 4 now and if anything of the kind happens
>>>> again I'll report right away and write down the exact circumstances. I
>>>> think it might be possible that it happens only in very special
>>>> circumstances, maybe dependant on which other software you're running
>>>> while working with AOO 4.
>>> 
>>> I also gave it a try on Windows 8 (64 bit) and there's no sign of a
>> crash.
>>> 
>>> Elaborating further on particular conditions. Maybe it's related to
>>> specific hardware, e.g. graphics card?
>>> 
>>> @Samer: As you seem to be able to reproduce the issue constantly, do you
>>> have any special hardware?
>> 
>> it is not easy for me to decide at the moment. What do others think? A
>> respin means rebuilding all platforms, signing and uploading the new
>> files. And then another vote cycle of 72 hr.
>> 
> 
> I don't have an issue with NOT re-voting. This is after all, ONE
> (significant) bug fix as opposed to the integrity of the whole product.
> Will changed source with one date be a problem with existing sig files?
> That's my only concern.
> 
> 
>> 
>> I personally will run into a time problem because I have to move into a
>> new flat and will be offline for some days until Thursday of next week.
>> It's no big deal and somebody else can do the work and a good release is
>> of course important ;-)
>> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> If we want a respin than we have to decide today and ideally until 3:00
>> pm (UTC +2).
>> 
>> 
>> Juergen
>> 
>>> 
>>> Peter
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Max
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Am 16.07.2013 11:48, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
>>>>> On 7/16/13 9:56 AM, Herbert Duerr wrote:
>>>>>> On 15.07.2013 22:47, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Samer Mansour 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I logged my comments in the bug, I searched the db before I opened
>>>>>>>> a new
>>>>>>>> bug sorry if its a duplicate.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It is windows 8 64-bit. Crashes on copy and cut.  Paste seems to
>>>>>>>> not be
>>>>>>>> affected.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The four steps Rob gave in the bug are the minimum required steps to
>>>>>>>> reproduce.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> An update on this crash.  I was eventually able to reproduce it on
>>>>>>> Windows 8, 64-bit.  This was an initial install, not an upgrade.
>>>>>>> Samer saw it on an upgrade install.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I worked on the stack trace with Herbert (fortunately my Windows 8
>>>>>>> machine had a debugger installed).  Herbert gave me a patch to test.
>>>>>>> It appears to work on my machine.  We're waiting to hear back from
>>>>>>> Samer on whether it worked for him.
>>>>>> If anyone else was able to reproduce the problem then we'd love to
>> know
>>>>>> whether the DLL at http://people.apache.org/~hdu/sysdtrans.dll
>>>>>> solves the problem. It contains the patch I suggested in issue 122752.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> To test it please
>>>>>> - download the DLL
>>>>>> - copy it into the OpenOffice program folder, on most systems this
>> will
>>>>>> be the folder C:\Program Files 

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

[Kay Schenk]

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:39 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

> On 7/16/13 1:06 PM, Peter Junge wrote:
> > On 7/16/2013 6:55 PM, Max Merbald wrote:
> >> Hi Jürgen,
> >>
> >> I just tried the same action with both AOO 4 without your dll file and
> >> with it, using even the very same file where I had that crash on June
> >> 22, but in neither case did I have a crash this time. I think I'll work
> >> a bit more with Openoffice 4 now and if anything of the kind happens
> >> again I'll report right away and write down the exact circumstances. I
> >> think it might be possible that it happens only in very special
> >> circumstances, maybe dependant on which other software you're running
> >> while working with AOO 4.
> >
> > I also gave it a try on Windows 8 (64 bit) and there's no sign of a
> crash.
> >
> > Elaborating further on particular conditions. Maybe it's related to
> > specific hardware, e.g. graphics card?
> >
> > @Samer: As you seem to be able to reproduce the issue constantly, do you
> > have any special hardware?
>
> it is not easy for me to decide at the moment. What do others think? A
> respin means rebuilding all platforms, signing and uploading the new
> files. And then another vote cycle of 72 hr.
>

I don't have an issue with NOT re-voting. This is after all, ONE
(significant) bug fix as opposed to the integrity of the whole product.
Will changed source with one date be a problem with existing sig files?
That's my only concern.


>
> I personally will run into a time problem because I have to move into a
> new flat and will be offline for some days until Thursday of next week.
> It's no big deal and somebody else can do the work and a good release is
> of course important ;-)
>


>
> If we want a respin than we have to decide today and ideally until 3:00
> pm (UTC +2).
>
>
> Juergen
>
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Max
> >>
> >>
> >> Am 16.07.2013 11:48, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
> >>> On 7/16/13 9:56 AM, Herbert Duerr wrote:
> >>>> On 15.07.2013 22:47, Rob Weir wrote:
> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Samer Mansour 
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> I logged my comments in the bug, I searched the db before I opened
> >>>>>> a new
> >>>>>> bug sorry if its a duplicate.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It is windows 8 64-bit. Crashes on copy and cut.  Paste seems to
> >>>>>> not be
> >>>>>> affected.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The four steps Rob gave in the bug are the minimum required steps to
> >>>>>> reproduce.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> An update on this crash.  I was eventually able to reproduce it on
> >>>>> Windows 8, 64-bit.  This was an initial install, not an upgrade.
> >>>>> Samer saw it on an upgrade install.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I worked on the stack trace with Herbert (fortunately my Windows 8
> >>>>> machine had a debugger installed).  Herbert gave me a patch to test.
> >>>>> It appears to work on my machine.  We're waiting to hear back from
> >>>>> Samer on whether it worked for him.
> >>>> If anyone else was able to reproduce the problem then we'd love to
> know
> >>>> whether the DLL at http://people.apache.org/~hdu/sysdtrans.dll
> >>>> solves the problem. It contains the patch I suggested in issue 122752.
> >>>>
> >>>> To test it please
> >>>> - download the DLL
> >>>> - copy it into the OpenOffice program folder, on most systems this
> will
> >>>> be the folder C:\Program Files (x86)\OpenOffice 4\program\
> >>>> - if the system warns you that you are overwriting a program file then
> >>>> please confirm with YES, as that is exactly what is wanted
> >>>> - run your tests again that used to crash it
> >>> nobody out there who is able to reproduce the problem and can say that
> >>> Herbert's fix is solving the problem?
> >>>
> >>> We have reviewed the patch from Herbert with 3 people and the patch is
> >>> save. The fix solved the issue for Rob who was able to reproduce the
> >>> problem partly before he used the patched library.
> >>>
> >>> Windows 8 becomes more and more important on the desktop and window

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

[janI]

On 16 July 2013 16:21, Rob Weir  wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Max Merbald  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'd also suggest it would be best to include the issues listed by Jürgen
> in
> > the other thread. Better to include them than to have complaints by
> users,
> > and, possibly, bad press. I don't think there's a need to hurry things.
> > Another vote wouldn't hurt, would it?
> >
>
> Technically, we're only voting on the source distributions.  And the
> vote is about whether the source meets Apache legal policy
> requirements in terms of license headers, NOTICE file contents,
> copyright statement.  We're also verifying digital signatures and
> checksum hashes, to verify the integrity of the released files.
>
> So if the RC had no problems in these areas then the new RC, that just
> changes a few lines of code and does not add any new files or new
> components or new dependencies , will also not have any issues.  So we
> don't really need a 72-hour vote, IMHO.  We just need enough time to
> double check the signatures and hashes.
>

The binary install sets are important as well, of course.  But we're

> not really voting on those.  And the vote is not an invitation to
> start testing.  Testing has been ongoing for a couple months now.  The
> reason we have a vote is because there are no known serious bugs. We
> wouldn't have a vote if there were huge known issues.  In this
> particular case we missed an issue, obviously.  But the solution in
> the future to that is more testing effort in the months and weeks
> leading up to a release vote.  We'll never improve things
> substantially by trying to squeeze more testing into a 72-hour voting
> window.
>

you are fully correct in your statements, I would however still give people
a chance to test the new RC, and 72 hours is a figure we all know, no need
to squeeze it more down than that.

rgds
jan I.




>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>
>
> > Max
> >
> >
> > Am 16.07.2013 15:58, schrieb Peter Junge:
> >
> >> On 7/16/2013 8:03 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Jürgen Schmidt  >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 7/16/13 1:06 PM, Peter Junge wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 7/16/2013 6:55 PM, Max Merbald wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Jürgen,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I just tried the same action with both AOO 4 without your dll file
> and
> >>>>>> with it, using even the very same file where I had that crash on
> June
> >>>>>> 22, but in neither case did I have a crash this time. I think I'll
> >>>>>> work
> >>>>>> a bit more with Openoffice 4 now and if anything of the kind happens
> >>>>>> again I'll report right away and write down the exact
> circumstances. I
> >>>>>> think it might be possible that it happens only in very special
> >>>>>> circumstances, maybe dependant on which other software you're
> running
> >>>>>> while working with AOO 4.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I also gave it a try on Windows 8 (64 bit) and there's no sign of a
> >>>>> crash.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Elaborating further on particular conditions. Maybe it's related to
> >>>>> specific hardware, e.g. graphics card?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> @Samer: As you seem to be able to reproduce the issue constantly, do
> >>>>> you
> >>>>> have any special hardware?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> it is not easy for me to decide at the moment. What do others think? A
> >>>> respin means rebuilding all platforms, signing and uploading the new
> >>>> files. And then another vote cycle of 72 hr.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Do we need another 72-hour vote?  If there are no objections I'd
> >>> support making a patch without triggering a full vote.
> >>
> >>
> >> +1
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> >>>
> >>> -Rob
> >>>
> >>>> I personally will run into a time problem because I have to move into
> a
> >>>> new flat and will be offline for some days until Thursday of next
> week.
> >>>> It's no big deal and somebody else can do the work and a good release
> is
&

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

[Peter Junge]

On 7/16/2013 9:30 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:

We found the mystery trick. Have Windows File Explorer open.
I overlooked that in my environment because its seems so core to the OS.


I still cannot reproduce it. You have some more apps open in that video. 
Can they be related as well?


Anyway, if the fix works everything seems fine.

Thanks a lot.
Peter




Here is the video of the error reproduced: https://t.co/VLAyfSGwQC

This fix sent to me by Herbert Duerr via e-mail fixes the issue.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122752


On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Yuzhen Fan  wrote:


Simon, Juergen and all,

I have checked the dll on Windows 7 in Writer/Calc/Impress, with steps:
enter "Hello World", Ctrl-A to select all, Ctrl-C to copy, Ctrl-X to cut,
Ctrl-V to paste, and also using menu, like 'Edit' -> 'Copy', 'Cut' or
'Paste'. All above function work without regression.

Regards,
Yu Zhen


On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:36 AM, Shenfeng Liu  wrote:


Juergen,
   I believe it is a right decision to respin and include this fix. While
besides verifying it on Windows 8, I also asked Yu Zhen to help verify

the

dll on Windows 7 to ensure the fix is no impact to Windows 7. Yu Zhen

will

update the result within hours.
   Thanks very much for your quick turn around on this critical issue!

- Shenfeng (Simon)




2013/7/16 Jürgen Schmidt 


On 7/16/13 2:03 PM, Rob Weir wrote:

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <

jogischm...@gmail.com


wrote:

On 7/16/13 1:06 PM, Peter Junge wrote:

On 7/16/2013 6:55 PM, Max Merbald wrote:

Hi Jürgen,

I just tried the same action with both AOO 4 without your dll file

and

with it, using even the very same file where I had that crash on

June

22, but in neither case did I have a crash this time. I think I'll

work

a bit more with Openoffice 4 now and if anything of the kind

happens

again I'll report right away and write down the exact

circumstances. I

think it might be possible that it happens only in very special
circumstances, maybe dependant on which other software you're

running

while working with AOO 4.


I also gave it a try on Windows 8 (64 bit) and there's no sign of a

crash.


Elaborating further on particular conditions. Maybe it's related to
specific hardware, e.g. graphics card?

@Samer: As you seem to be able to reproduce the issue constantly,

do

you

have any special hardware?


it is not easy for me to decide at the moment. What do others

think? A

respin means rebuilding all platforms, signing and uploading the new
files. And then another vote cycle of 72 hr.



Do we need another 72-hour vote?  If there are no objections I'd
support making a patch without triggering a full vote.


from my point of view not, I know the code, what we change and I can
live with reviewing the generated patch between the RC and the new

build.



And the longer I am thinking about the issue and that it is now known
that there is a potential problem I am getting more confident that we
should do the respin.

I will check what other potential important uncritical fixes can we
include as well. But I would like to have it at a minimum to reduce the
testing effort for the respin.

Juergen




-Rob


I personally will run into a time problem because I have to move

into

a

new flat and will be offline for some days until Thursday of next

week.

It's no big deal and somebody else can do the work and a good

release

is

of course important ;-)

If we want a respin than we have to decide today and ideally until

3:00

pm (UTC +2).


Juergen




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Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

[Rob Weir]

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Max Merbald  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd also suggest it would be best to include the issues listed by Jürgen in
> the other thread. Better to include them than to have complaints by users,
> and, possibly, bad press. I don't think there's a need to hurry things.
> Another vote wouldn't hurt, would it?
>

Technically, we're only voting on the source distributions.  And the
vote is about whether the source meets Apache legal policy
requirements in terms of license headers, NOTICE file contents,
copyright statement.  We're also verifying digital signatures and
checksum hashes, to verify the integrity of the released files.

So if the RC had no problems in these areas then the new RC, that just
changes a few lines of code and does not add any new files or new
components or new dependencies , will also not have any issues.  So we
don't really need a 72-hour vote, IMHO.  We just need enough time to
double check the signatures and hashes.

The binary install sets are important as well, of course.  But we're
not really voting on those.  And the vote is not an invitation to
start testing.  Testing has been ongoing for a couple months now.  The
reason we have a vote is because there are no known serious bugs. We
wouldn't have a vote if there were huge known issues.  In this
particular case we missed an issue, obviously.  But the solution in
the future to that is more testing effort in the months and weeks
leading up to a release vote.  We'll never improve things
substantially by trying to squeeze more testing into a 72-hour voting
window.

Regards,

-Rob


> Max
>
>
> Am 16.07.2013 15:58, schrieb Peter Junge:
>
>> On 7/16/2013 8:03 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Jürgen Schmidt 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 7/16/13 1:06 PM, Peter Junge wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/16/2013 6:55 PM, Max Merbald wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Jürgen,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just tried the same action with both AOO 4 without your dll file and
>>>>>> with it, using even the very same file where I had that crash on June
>>>>>> 22, but in neither case did I have a crash this time. I think I'll
>>>>>> work
>>>>>> a bit more with Openoffice 4 now and if anything of the kind happens
>>>>>> again I'll report right away and write down the exact circumstances. I
>>>>>> think it might be possible that it happens only in very special
>>>>>> circumstances, maybe dependant on which other software you're running
>>>>>> while working with AOO 4.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I also gave it a try on Windows 8 (64 bit) and there's no sign of a
>>>>> crash.
>>>>>
>>>>> Elaborating further on particular conditions. Maybe it's related to
>>>>> specific hardware, e.g. graphics card?
>>>>>
>>>>> @Samer: As you seem to be able to reproduce the issue constantly, do
>>>>> you
>>>>> have any special hardware?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> it is not easy for me to decide at the moment. What do others think? A
>>>> respin means rebuilding all platforms, signing and uploading the new
>>>> files. And then another vote cycle of 72 hr.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Do we need another 72-hour vote?  If there are no objections I'd
>>> support making a patch without triggering a full vote.
>>
>>
>> +1
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>>
>>> -Rob
>>>
>>>> I personally will run into a time problem because I have to move into a
>>>> new flat and will be offline for some days until Thursday of next week.
>>>> It's no big deal and somebody else can do the work and a good release is
>>>> of course important ;-)
>>>>
>>>> If we want a respin than we have to decide today and ideally until 3:00
>>>> pm (UTC +2).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Juergen
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Max
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 16.07.2013 11:48, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/16/13 9:56 AM, Herbert Duerr wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 15.07.2013 22:47, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>>>>&

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

[Max Merbald]

Hi,

I'd also suggest it would be best to include the issues listed by Jürgen 
in the other thread. Better to include them than to have complaints by 
users, and, possibly, bad press. I don't think there's a need to hurry 
things. Another vote wouldn't hurt, would it?


Max


Am 16.07.2013 15:58, schrieb Peter Junge:

On 7/16/2013 8:03 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Jürgen Schmidt 
 wrote:

On 7/16/13 1:06 PM, Peter Junge wrote:

On 7/16/2013 6:55 PM, Max Merbald wrote:

Hi Jürgen,

I just tried the same action with both AOO 4 without your dll file 
and

with it, using even the very same file where I had that crash on June
22, but in neither case did I have a crash this time. I think I'll 
work

a bit more with Openoffice 4 now and if anything of the kind happens
again I'll report right away and write down the exact 
circumstances. I

think it might be possible that it happens only in very special
circumstances, maybe dependant on which other software you're running
while working with AOO 4.


I also gave it a try on Windows 8 (64 bit) and there's no sign of a 
crash.


Elaborating further on particular conditions. Maybe it's related to
specific hardware, e.g. graphics card?

@Samer: As you seem to be able to reproduce the issue constantly, 
do you

have any special hardware?


it is not easy for me to decide at the moment. What do others think? A
respin means rebuilding all platforms, signing and uploading the new
files. And then another vote cycle of 72 hr.



Do we need another 72-hour vote?  If there are no objections I'd
support making a patch without triggering a full vote.


+1

Peter



-Rob


I personally will run into a time problem because I have to move into a
new flat and will be offline for some days until Thursday of next week.
It's no big deal and somebody else can do the work and a good 
release is

of course important ;-)

If we want a respin than we have to decide today and ideally until 3:00
pm (UTC +2).


Juergen



Peter




Max


Am 16.07.2013 11:48, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:

On 7/16/13 9:56 AM, Herbert Duerr wrote:

On 15.07.2013 22:47, Rob Weir wrote:
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Samer Mansour 


wrote:
I logged my comments in the bug, I searched the db before I 
opened

a new
bug sorry if its a duplicate.

It is windows 8 64-bit. Crashes on copy and cut. Paste seems to
not be
affected.

The four steps Rob gave in the bug are the minimum required 
steps to

reproduce.


An update on this crash.  I was eventually able to reproduce it on
Windows 8, 64-bit.  This was an initial install, not an upgrade.
Samer saw it on an upgrade install.

I worked on the stack trace with Herbert (fortunately my Windows 8
machine had a debugger installed).  Herbert gave me a patch to 
test.

It appears to work on my machine.  We're waiting to hear back from
Samer on whether it worked for him.
If anyone else was able to reproduce the problem then we'd love 
to know

whether the DLL at http://people.apache.org/~hdu/sysdtrans.dll
solves the problem. It contains the patch I suggested in issue 
122752.


To test it please
- download the DLL
- copy it into the OpenOffice program folder, on most systems 
this will

be the folder C:\Program Files (x86)\OpenOffice 4\program\
- if the system warns you that you are overwriting a program 
file then

please confirm with YES, as that is exactly what is wanted
- run your tests again that used to crash it
nobody out there who is able to reproduce the problem and can say 
that

Herbert's fix is solving the problem?

We have reviewed the patch from Herbert with 3 people and the 
patch is

save. The fix solved the issue for Rob who was able to reproduce the
problem partly before he used the patched library.

Windows 8 becomes more and more important on the desktop and 
windows is
our main platform. I tend to a respin at the moment but will wait 
1-2

hours longer to receive potentially more feedback.

Juergen


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Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

[Ricardo Berlasso]

2013/7/16 Rob Weir 

> 
> > it is not easy for me to decide at the moment. What do others think? A
> > respin means rebuilding all platforms, signing and uploading the new
> > files. And then another vote cycle of 72 hr.
> >
>
> Do we need another 72-hour vote?  If there are no objections I'd
> support making a patch without triggering a full vote.
>

+1. No need for another vote.

Regards
Ricardo




>
> -Rob
>
>

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

[Peter Junge]

On 7/16/2013 8:03 PM, Rob Weir wrote:

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Jürgen Schmidt  wrote:

On 7/16/13 1:06 PM, Peter Junge wrote:

On 7/16/2013 6:55 PM, Max Merbald wrote:

Hi Jürgen,

I just tried the same action with both AOO 4 without your dll file and
with it, using even the very same file where I had that crash on June
22, but in neither case did I have a crash this time. I think I'll work
a bit more with Openoffice 4 now and if anything of the kind happens
again I'll report right away and write down the exact circumstances. I
think it might be possible that it happens only in very special
circumstances, maybe dependant on which other software you're running
while working with AOO 4.


I also gave it a try on Windows 8 (64 bit) and there's no sign of a crash.

Elaborating further on particular conditions. Maybe it's related to
specific hardware, e.g. graphics card?

@Samer: As you seem to be able to reproduce the issue constantly, do you
have any special hardware?


it is not easy for me to decide at the moment. What do others think? A
respin means rebuilding all platforms, signing and uploading the new
files. And then another vote cycle of 72 hr.



Do we need another 72-hour vote?  If there are no objections I'd
support making a patch without triggering a full vote.


+1

Peter



-Rob


I personally will run into a time problem because I have to move into a
new flat and will be offline for some days until Thursday of next week.
It's no big deal and somebody else can do the work and a good release is
of course important ;-)

If we want a respin than we have to decide today and ideally until 3:00
pm (UTC +2).


Juergen



Peter




Max


Am 16.07.2013 11:48, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:

On 7/16/13 9:56 AM, Herbert Duerr wrote:

On 15.07.2013 22:47, Rob Weir wrote:

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Samer Mansour 
wrote:

I logged my comments in the bug, I searched the db before I opened
a new
bug sorry if its a duplicate.

It is windows 8 64-bit. Crashes on copy and cut.  Paste seems to
not be
affected.

The four steps Rob gave in the bug are the minimum required steps to
reproduce.


An update on this crash.  I was eventually able to reproduce it on
Windows 8, 64-bit.  This was an initial install, not an upgrade.
Samer saw it on an upgrade install.

I worked on the stack trace with Herbert (fortunately my Windows 8
machine had a debugger installed).  Herbert gave me a patch to test.
It appears to work on my machine.  We're waiting to hear back from
Samer on whether it worked for him.

If anyone else was able to reproduce the problem then we'd love to know
whether the DLL at http://people.apache.org/~hdu/sysdtrans.dll
solves the problem. It contains the patch I suggested in issue 122752.

To test it please
- download the DLL
- copy it into the OpenOffice program folder, on most systems this will
be the folder C:\Program Files (x86)\OpenOffice 4\program\
- if the system warns you that you are overwriting a program file then
please confirm with YES, as that is exactly what is wanted
- run your tests again that used to crash it

nobody out there who is able to reproduce the problem and can say that
Herbert's fix is solving the problem?

We have reviewed the patch from Herbert with 3 people and the patch is
save. The fix solved the issue for Rob who was able to reproduce the
problem partly before he used the patched library.

Windows 8 becomes more and more important on the desktop and windows is
our main platform. I tend to a respin at the moment but will wait 1-2
hours longer to receive potentially more feedback.

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Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

[Rob Weir]

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Samer Mansour  wrote:
> Oh and great work everyone! To the people who helped verify and volunteer
> coders who helped fix the bug!
>

Thanks to you you and Herbert for the extra effort.

I'm reminded of this classic Volkswagen advertisement:

http://www.writingfordesigners.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/volkswagen_lemon_hires1.jpg

(It ran in the US.  Not sure if it was used elsewhere)

I think we can do something similar, to reiterate our commitment to quality.

I'm drafting a blog post

-Rob

>
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Samer Mansour  wrote:
>
>> We found the mystery trick. Have Windows File Explorer open.
>> I overlooked that in my environment because its seems so core to the OS.
>>
>> Here is the video of the error reproduced: https://t.co/VLAyfSGwQC
>>
>> This fix sent to me by Herbert Duerr via e-mail fixes the issue.
>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122752
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Yuzhen Fan  wrote:
>>
>>> Simon, Juergen and all,
>>>
>>> I have checked the dll on Windows 7 in Writer/Calc/Impress, with steps:
>>> enter "Hello World", Ctrl-A to select all, Ctrl-C to copy, Ctrl-X to cut,
>>> Ctrl-V to paste, and also using menu, like 'Edit' -> 'Copy', 'Cut' or
>>> 'Paste'. All above function work without regression.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Yu Zhen
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:36 AM, Shenfeng Liu  wrote:
>>>
>>> > Juergen,
>>> >   I believe it is a right decision to respin and include this fix. While
>>> > besides verifying it on Windows 8, I also asked Yu Zhen to help verify
>>> the
>>> > dll on Windows 7 to ensure the fix is no impact to Windows 7. Yu Zhen
>>> will
>>> > update the result within hours.
>>> >   Thanks very much for your quick turn around on this critical issue!
>>> >
>>> > - Shenfeng (Simon)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 2013/7/16 Jürgen Schmidt 
>>> >
>>> > > On 7/16/13 2:03 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>> > > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <
>>> jogischm...@gmail.com
>>> > >
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > > >> On 7/16/13 1:06 PM, Peter Junge wrote:
>>> > > >>> On 7/16/2013 6:55 PM, Max Merbald wrote:
>>> > > >>>> Hi Jürgen,
>>> > > >>>>
>>> > > >>>> I just tried the same action with both AOO 4 without your dll
>>> file
>>> > and
>>> > > >>>> with it, using even the very same file where I had that crash on
>>> > June
>>> > > >>>> 22, but in neither case did I have a crash this time. I think
>>> I'll
>>> > > work
>>> > > >>>> a bit more with Openoffice 4 now and if anything of the kind
>>> happens
>>> > > >>>> again I'll report right away and write down the exact
>>> > circumstances. I
>>> > > >>>> think it might be possible that it happens only in very special
>>> > > >>>> circumstances, maybe dependant on which other software you're
>>> > running
>>> > > >>>> while working with AOO 4.
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>> I also gave it a try on Windows 8 (64 bit) and there's no sign of
>>> a
>>> > > crash.
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>> Elaborating further on particular conditions. Maybe it's related
>>> to
>>> > > >>> specific hardware, e.g. graphics card?
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>> @Samer: As you seem to be able to reproduce the issue constantly,
>>> do
>>> > > you
>>> > > >>> have any special hardware?
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> it is not easy for me to decide at the moment. What do others
>>> think? A
>>> > > >> respin means rebuilding all platforms, signing and uploading the
>>> new
>>> > > >> files. And then another vote cycle of 72 hr.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Do we need another 72-hour vote?  If there are no objections I'd
>>> > > > support making a pa

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

[Samer Mansour]

Oh and great work everyone! To the people who helped verify and volunteer
coders who helped fix the bug!


On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Samer Mansour  wrote:

> We found the mystery trick. Have Windows File Explorer open.
> I overlooked that in my environment because its seems so core to the OS.
>
> Here is the video of the error reproduced: https://t.co/VLAyfSGwQC
>
> This fix sent to me by Herbert Duerr via e-mail fixes the issue.
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122752
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Yuzhen Fan  wrote:
>
>> Simon, Juergen and all,
>>
>> I have checked the dll on Windows 7 in Writer/Calc/Impress, with steps:
>> enter "Hello World", Ctrl-A to select all, Ctrl-C to copy, Ctrl-X to cut,
>> Ctrl-V to paste, and also using menu, like 'Edit' -> 'Copy', 'Cut' or
>> 'Paste'. All above function work without regression.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Yu Zhen
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:36 AM, Shenfeng Liu  wrote:
>>
>> > Juergen,
>> >   I believe it is a right decision to respin and include this fix. While
>> > besides verifying it on Windows 8, I also asked Yu Zhen to help verify
>> the
>> > dll on Windows 7 to ensure the fix is no impact to Windows 7. Yu Zhen
>> will
>> > update the result within hours.
>> >   Thanks very much for your quick turn around on this critical issue!
>> >
>> > - Shenfeng (Simon)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 2013/7/16 Jürgen Schmidt 
>> >
>> > > On 7/16/13 2:03 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>> > > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <
>> jogischm...@gmail.com
>> > >
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >> On 7/16/13 1:06 PM, Peter Junge wrote:
>> > > >>> On 7/16/2013 6:55 PM, Max Merbald wrote:
>> > > >>>> Hi Jürgen,
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> I just tried the same action with both AOO 4 without your dll
>> file
>> > and
>> > > >>>> with it, using even the very same file where I had that crash on
>> > June
>> > > >>>> 22, but in neither case did I have a crash this time. I think
>> I'll
>> > > work
>> > > >>>> a bit more with Openoffice 4 now and if anything of the kind
>> happens
>> > > >>>> again I'll report right away and write down the exact
>> > circumstances. I
>> > > >>>> think it might be possible that it happens only in very special
>> > > >>>> circumstances, maybe dependant on which other software you're
>> > running
>> > > >>>> while working with AOO 4.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> I also gave it a try on Windows 8 (64 bit) and there's no sign of
>> a
>> > > crash.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Elaborating further on particular conditions. Maybe it's related
>> to
>> > > >>> specific hardware, e.g. graphics card?
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> @Samer: As you seem to be able to reproduce the issue constantly,
>> do
>> > > you
>> > > >>> have any special hardware?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> it is not easy for me to decide at the moment. What do others
>> think? A
>> > > >> respin means rebuilding all platforms, signing and uploading the
>> new
>> > > >> files. And then another vote cycle of 72 hr.
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > > Do we need another 72-hour vote?  If there are no objections I'd
>> > > > support making a patch without triggering a full vote.
>> > >
>> > > from my point of view not, I know the code, what we change and I can
>> > > live with reviewing the generated patch between the RC and the new
>> build.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > And the longer I am thinking about the issue and that it is now known
>> > > that there is a potential problem I am getting more confident that we
>> > > should do the respin.
>> > >
>> > > I will check what other potential important uncritical fixes can we
>> > > include as well. But I would like to have it at a minimum to reduce
>> the
>> > > testing effort for the respin.
>> > >
>> > > Juergen
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > -Rob
>> > > >
>> > > >> I personally will run into a time problem because I have to move
>> into
>> > a
>> > > >> new flat and will be offline for some days until Thursday of next
>> > week.
>> > > >> It's no big deal and somebody else can do the work and a good
>> release
>> > is
>> > > >> of course important ;-)
>> > > >>
>> > > >> If we want a respin than we have to decide today and ideally until
>> > 3:00
>> > > >> pm (UTC +2).
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Juergen
>> > > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -
>> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
>> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

[Samer Mansour]

We found the mystery trick. Have Windows File Explorer open.
I overlooked that in my environment because its seems so core to the OS.

Here is the video of the error reproduced: https://t.co/VLAyfSGwQC

This fix sent to me by Herbert Duerr via e-mail fixes the issue.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122752


On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Yuzhen Fan  wrote:

> Simon, Juergen and all,
>
> I have checked the dll on Windows 7 in Writer/Calc/Impress, with steps:
> enter "Hello World", Ctrl-A to select all, Ctrl-C to copy, Ctrl-X to cut,
> Ctrl-V to paste, and also using menu, like 'Edit' -> 'Copy', 'Cut' or
> 'Paste'. All above function work without regression.
>
> Regards,
> Yu Zhen
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:36 AM, Shenfeng Liu  wrote:
>
> > Juergen,
> >   I believe it is a right decision to respin and include this fix. While
> > besides verifying it on Windows 8, I also asked Yu Zhen to help verify
> the
> > dll on Windows 7 to ensure the fix is no impact to Windows 7. Yu Zhen
> will
> > update the result within hours.
> >   Thanks very much for your quick turn around on this critical issue!
> >
> > - Shenfeng (Simon)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/7/16 Jürgen Schmidt 
> >
> > > On 7/16/13 2:03 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <
> jogischm...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > >> On 7/16/13 1:06 PM, Peter Junge wrote:
> > > >>> On 7/16/2013 6:55 PM, Max Merbald wrote:
> > > >>>> Hi Jürgen,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I just tried the same action with both AOO 4 without your dll file
> > and
> > > >>>> with it, using even the very same file where I had that crash on
> > June
> > > >>>> 22, but in neither case did I have a crash this time. I think I'll
> > > work
> > > >>>> a bit more with Openoffice 4 now and if anything of the kind
> happens
> > > >>>> again I'll report right away and write down the exact
> > circumstances. I
> > > >>>> think it might be possible that it happens only in very special
> > > >>>> circumstances, maybe dependant on which other software you're
> > running
> > > >>>> while working with AOO 4.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I also gave it a try on Windows 8 (64 bit) and there's no sign of a
> > > crash.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Elaborating further on particular conditions. Maybe it's related to
> > > >>> specific hardware, e.g. graphics card?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> @Samer: As you seem to be able to reproduce the issue constantly,
> do
> > > you
> > > >>> have any special hardware?
> > > >>
> > > >> it is not easy for me to decide at the moment. What do others
> think? A
> > > >> respin means rebuilding all platforms, signing and uploading the new
> > > >> files. And then another vote cycle of 72 hr.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Do we need another 72-hour vote?  If there are no objections I'd
> > > > support making a patch without triggering a full vote.
> > >
> > > from my point of view not, I know the code, what we change and I can
> > > live with reviewing the generated patch between the RC and the new
> build.
> > >
> > >
> > > And the longer I am thinking about the issue and that it is now known
> > > that there is a potential problem I am getting more confident that we
> > > should do the respin.
> > >
> > > I will check what other potential important uncritical fixes can we
> > > include as well. But I would like to have it at a minimum to reduce the
> > > testing effort for the respin.
> > >
> > > Juergen
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > -Rob
> > > >
> > > >> I personally will run into a time problem because I have to move
> into
> > a
> > > >> new flat and will be offline for some days until Thursday of next
> > week.
> > > >> It's no big deal and somebody else can do the work and a good
> release
> > is
> > > >> of course important ;-)
> > > >>
> > > >> If we want a respin than we have to decide today and ideally until
> > 3:00
> > > >> pm (UTC +2).
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Juergen
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > -
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

[Yuzhen Fan]

Simon, Juergen and all,

I have checked the dll on Windows 7 in Writer/Calc/Impress, with steps:
enter "Hello World", Ctrl-A to select all, Ctrl-C to copy, Ctrl-X to cut,
Ctrl-V to paste, and also using menu, like 'Edit' -> 'Copy', 'Cut' or
'Paste'. All above function work without regression.

Regards,
Yu Zhen


On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:36 AM, Shenfeng Liu  wrote:

> Juergen,
>   I believe it is a right decision to respin and include this fix. While
> besides verifying it on Windows 8, I also asked Yu Zhen to help verify the
> dll on Windows 7 to ensure the fix is no impact to Windows 7. Yu Zhen will
> update the result within hours.
>   Thanks very much for your quick turn around on this critical issue!
>
> - Shenfeng (Simon)
>
>
>
>
> 2013/7/16 Jürgen Schmidt 
>
> > On 7/16/13 2:03 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Jürgen Schmidt  >
> > wrote:
> > >> On 7/16/13 1:06 PM, Peter Junge wrote:
> > >>> On 7/16/2013 6:55 PM, Max Merbald wrote:
> > >>>> Hi Jürgen,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I just tried the same action with both AOO 4 without your dll file
> and
> > >>>> with it, using even the very same file where I had that crash on
> June
> > >>>> 22, but in neither case did I have a crash this time. I think I'll
> > work
> > >>>> a bit more with Openoffice 4 now and if anything of the kind happens
> > >>>> again I'll report right away and write down the exact
> circumstances. I
> > >>>> think it might be possible that it happens only in very special
> > >>>> circumstances, maybe dependant on which other software you're
> running
> > >>>> while working with AOO 4.
> > >>>
> > >>> I also gave it a try on Windows 8 (64 bit) and there's no sign of a
> > crash.
> > >>>
> > >>> Elaborating further on particular conditions. Maybe it's related to
> > >>> specific hardware, e.g. graphics card?
> > >>>
> > >>> @Samer: As you seem to be able to reproduce the issue constantly, do
> > you
> > >>> have any special hardware?
> > >>
> > >> it is not easy for me to decide at the moment. What do others think? A
> > >> respin means rebuilding all platforms, signing and uploading the new
> > >> files. And then another vote cycle of 72 hr.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Do we need another 72-hour vote?  If there are no objections I'd
> > > support making a patch without triggering a full vote.
> >
> > from my point of view not, I know the code, what we change and I can
> > live with reviewing the generated patch between the RC and the new build.
> >
> >
> > And the longer I am thinking about the issue and that it is now known
> > that there is a potential problem I am getting more confident that we
> > should do the respin.
> >
> > I will check what other potential important uncritical fixes can we
> > include as well. But I would like to have it at a minimum to reduce the
> > testing effort for the respin.
> >
> > Juergen
> >
> >
> > >
> > > -Rob
> > >
> > >> I personally will run into a time problem because I have to move into
> a
> > >> new flat and will be offline for some days until Thursday of next
> week.
> > >> It's no big deal and somebody else can do the work and a good release
> is
> > >> of course important ;-)
> > >>
> > >> If we want a respin than we have to decide today and ideally until
> 3:00
> > >> pm (UTC +2).
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Juergen
> > >>
> >
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
> >
> >
>

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

[Shenfeng Liu]

Juergen,
  I believe it is a right decision to respin and include this fix. While
besides verifying it on Windows 8, I also asked Yu Zhen to help verify the
dll on Windows 7 to ensure the fix is no impact to Windows 7. Yu Zhen will
update the result within hours.
  Thanks very much for your quick turn around on this critical issue!

- Shenfeng (Simon)




2013/7/16 Jürgen Schmidt 

> On 7/16/13 2:03 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Jürgen Schmidt 
> wrote:
> >> On 7/16/13 1:06 PM, Peter Junge wrote:
> >>> On 7/16/2013 6:55 PM, Max Merbald wrote:
> >>>> Hi Jürgen,
> >>>>
> >>>> I just tried the same action with both AOO 4 without your dll file and
> >>>> with it, using even the very same file where I had that crash on June
> >>>> 22, but in neither case did I have a crash this time. I think I'll
> work
> >>>> a bit more with Openoffice 4 now and if anything of the kind happens
> >>>> again I'll report right away and write down the exact circumstances. I
> >>>> think it might be possible that it happens only in very special
> >>>> circumstances, maybe dependant on which other software you're running
> >>>> while working with AOO 4.
> >>>
> >>> I also gave it a try on Windows 8 (64 bit) and there's no sign of a
> crash.
> >>>
> >>> Elaborating further on particular conditions. Maybe it's related to
> >>> specific hardware, e.g. graphics card?
> >>>
> >>> @Samer: As you seem to be able to reproduce the issue constantly, do
> you
> >>> have any special hardware?
> >>
> >> it is not easy for me to decide at the moment. What do others think? A
> >> respin means rebuilding all platforms, signing and uploading the new
> >> files. And then another vote cycle of 72 hr.
> >>
> >
> > Do we need another 72-hour vote?  If there are no objections I'd
> > support making a patch without triggering a full vote.
>
> from my point of view not, I know the code, what we change and I can
> live with reviewing the generated patch between the RC and the new build.
>
>
> And the longer I am thinking about the issue and that it is now known
> that there is a potential problem I am getting more confident that we
> should do the respin.
>
> I will check what other potential important uncritical fixes can we
> include as well. But I would like to have it at a minimum to reduce the
> testing effort for the respin.
>
> Juergen
>
>
> >
> > -Rob
> >
> >> I personally will run into a time problem because I have to move into a
> >> new flat and will be offline for some days until Thursday of next week.
> >> It's no big deal and somebody else can do the work and a good release is
> >> of course important ;-)
> >>
> >> If we want a respin than we have to decide today and ideally until 3:00
> >> pm (UTC +2).
> >>
> >>
> >> Juergen
> >>
>
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4.0.0_release_blocker granted: [Bug 122752] Windows 8 Selecting text and copying to system clipboard causes application crash.

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Bug 122752: Windows 8 Selecting text and copying to system clipboard causes
application crash.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122752


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grant showstopper flag

I think it is critical that it is known as potential problem and the fix seems
to work fine for Rob who were not able to reproduce the issue with the fix.

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Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

[Jürgen Schmidt]

On 7/16/13 2:03 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Jürgen Schmidt  wrote:
>> On 7/16/13 1:06 PM, Peter Junge wrote:
>>> On 7/16/2013 6:55 PM, Max Merbald wrote:
>>>> Hi Jürgen,
>>>>
>>>> I just tried the same action with both AOO 4 without your dll file and
>>>> with it, using even the very same file where I had that crash on June
>>>> 22, but in neither case did I have a crash this time. I think I'll work
>>>> a bit more with Openoffice 4 now and if anything of the kind happens
>>>> again I'll report right away and write down the exact circumstances. I
>>>> think it might be possible that it happens only in very special
>>>> circumstances, maybe dependant on which other software you're running
>>>> while working with AOO 4.
>>>
>>> I also gave it a try on Windows 8 (64 bit) and there's no sign of a crash.
>>>
>>> Elaborating further on particular conditions. Maybe it's related to
>>> specific hardware, e.g. graphics card?
>>>
>>> @Samer: As you seem to be able to reproduce the issue constantly, do you
>>> have any special hardware?
>>
>> it is not easy for me to decide at the moment. What do others think? A
>> respin means rebuilding all platforms, signing and uploading the new
>> files. And then another vote cycle of 72 hr.
>>
> 
> Do we need another 72-hour vote?  If there are no objections I'd
> support making a patch without triggering a full vote.

from my point of view not, I know the code, what we change and I can
live with reviewing the generated patch between the RC and the new build.


And the longer I am thinking about the issue and that it is now known
that there is a potential problem I am getting more confident that we
should do the respin.

I will check what other potential important uncritical fixes can we
include as well. But I would like to have it at a minimum to reduce the
testing effort for the respin.

Juergen


> 
> -Rob
> 
>> I personally will run into a time problem because I have to move into a
>> new flat and will be offline for some days until Thursday of next week.
>> It's no big deal and somebody else can do the work and a good release is
>> of course important ;-)
>>
>> If we want a respin than we have to decide today and ideally until 3:00
>> pm (UTC +2).
>>
>>
>> Juergen
>>


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Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

[Rob Weir]

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Jürgen Schmidt  wrote:
> On 7/16/13 1:06 PM, Peter Junge wrote:
>> On 7/16/2013 6:55 PM, Max Merbald wrote:
>>> Hi Jürgen,
>>>
>>> I just tried the same action with both AOO 4 without your dll file and
>>> with it, using even the very same file where I had that crash on June
>>> 22, but in neither case did I have a crash this time. I think I'll work
>>> a bit more with Openoffice 4 now and if anything of the kind happens
>>> again I'll report right away and write down the exact circumstances. I
>>> think it might be possible that it happens only in very special
>>> circumstances, maybe dependant on which other software you're running
>>> while working with AOO 4.
>>
>> I also gave it a try on Windows 8 (64 bit) and there's no sign of a crash.
>>
>> Elaborating further on particular conditions. Maybe it's related to
>> specific hardware, e.g. graphics card?
>>
>> @Samer: As you seem to be able to reproduce the issue constantly, do you
>> have any special hardware?
>
> it is not easy for me to decide at the moment. What do others think? A
> respin means rebuilding all platforms, signing and uploading the new
> files. And then another vote cycle of 72 hr.
>

Do we need another 72-hour vote?  If there are no objections I'd
support making a patch without triggering a full vote.

-Rob

> I personally will run into a time problem because I have to move into a
> new flat and will be offline for some days until Thursday of next week.
> It's no big deal and somebody else can do the work and a good release is
> of course important ;-)
>
> If we want a respin than we have to decide today and ideally until 3:00
> pm (UTC +2).
>
>
> Juergen
>
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Max
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 16.07.2013 11:48, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
>>>> On 7/16/13 9:56 AM, Herbert Duerr wrote:
>>>>> On 15.07.2013 22:47, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Samer Mansour 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> I logged my comments in the bug, I searched the db before I opened
>>>>>>> a new
>>>>>>> bug sorry if its a duplicate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is windows 8 64-bit. Crashes on copy and cut.  Paste seems to
>>>>>>> not be
>>>>>>> affected.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The four steps Rob gave in the bug are the minimum required steps to
>>>>>>> reproduce.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> An update on this crash.  I was eventually able to reproduce it on
>>>>>> Windows 8, 64-bit.  This was an initial install, not an upgrade.
>>>>>> Samer saw it on an upgrade install.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I worked on the stack trace with Herbert (fortunately my Windows 8
>>>>>> machine had a debugger installed).  Herbert gave me a patch to test.
>>>>>> It appears to work on my machine.  We're waiting to hear back from
>>>>>> Samer on whether it worked for him.
>>>>> If anyone else was able to reproduce the problem then we'd love to know
>>>>> whether the DLL at http://people.apache.org/~hdu/sysdtrans.dll
>>>>> solves the problem. It contains the patch I suggested in issue 122752.
>>>>>
>>>>> To test it please
>>>>> - download the DLL
>>>>> - copy it into the OpenOffice program folder, on most systems this will
>>>>> be the folder C:\Program Files (x86)\OpenOffice 4\program\
>>>>> - if the system warns you that you are overwriting a program file then
>>>>> please confirm with YES, as that is exactly what is wanted
>>>>> - run your tests again that used to crash it
>>>> nobody out there who is able to reproduce the problem and can say that
>>>> Herbert's fix is solving the problem?
>>>>
>>>> We have reviewed the patch from Herbert with 3 people and the patch is
>>>> save. The fix solved the issue for Rob who was able to reproduce the
>>>> problem partly before he used the patched library.
>>>>
>>>> Windows 8 becomes more and more important on the desktop and windows is
>>>> our main platform. I tend to a respin at the moment but will wait 1-2
>>>> hours longer to receive potentially more feedback.
>>>>
>>>> Juergen
>>&

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

[Jürgen Schmidt]

On 7/16/13 1:06 PM, Peter Junge wrote:
> On 7/16/2013 6:55 PM, Max Merbald wrote:
>> Hi Jürgen,
>>
>> I just tried the same action with both AOO 4 without your dll file and
>> with it, using even the very same file where I had that crash on June
>> 22, but in neither case did I have a crash this time. I think I'll work
>> a bit more with Openoffice 4 now and if anything of the kind happens
>> again I'll report right away and write down the exact circumstances. I
>> think it might be possible that it happens only in very special
>> circumstances, maybe dependant on which other software you're running
>> while working with AOO 4.
> 
> I also gave it a try on Windows 8 (64 bit) and there's no sign of a crash.
> 
> Elaborating further on particular conditions. Maybe it's related to
> specific hardware, e.g. graphics card?
> 
> @Samer: As you seem to be able to reproduce the issue constantly, do you
> have any special hardware?

it is not easy for me to decide at the moment. What do others think? A
respin means rebuilding all platforms, signing and uploading the new
files. And then another vote cycle of 72 hr.

I personally will run into a time problem because I have to move into a
new flat and will be offline for some days until Thursday of next week.
It's no big deal and somebody else can do the work and a good release is
of course important ;-)

If we want a respin than we have to decide today and ideally until 3:00
pm (UTC +2).


Juergen

> 
> Peter
> 
> 
>>
>> Max
>>
>>
>> Am 16.07.2013 11:48, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
>>> On 7/16/13 9:56 AM, Herbert Duerr wrote:
>>>> On 15.07.2013 22:47, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Samer Mansour 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I logged my comments in the bug, I searched the db before I opened
>>>>>> a new
>>>>>> bug sorry if its a duplicate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is windows 8 64-bit. Crashes on copy and cut.  Paste seems to
>>>>>> not be
>>>>>> affected.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The four steps Rob gave in the bug are the minimum required steps to
>>>>>> reproduce.
>>>>>>
>>>>> An update on this crash.  I was eventually able to reproduce it on
>>>>> Windows 8, 64-bit.  This was an initial install, not an upgrade.
>>>>> Samer saw it on an upgrade install.
>>>>>
>>>>> I worked on the stack trace with Herbert (fortunately my Windows 8
>>>>> machine had a debugger installed).  Herbert gave me a patch to test.
>>>>> It appears to work on my machine.  We're waiting to hear back from
>>>>> Samer on whether it worked for him.
>>>> If anyone else was able to reproduce the problem then we'd love to know
>>>> whether the DLL at http://people.apache.org/~hdu/sysdtrans.dll
>>>> solves the problem. It contains the patch I suggested in issue 122752.
>>>>
>>>> To test it please
>>>> - download the DLL
>>>> - copy it into the OpenOffice program folder, on most systems this will
>>>> be the folder C:\Program Files (x86)\OpenOffice 4\program\
>>>> - if the system warns you that you are overwriting a program file then
>>>> please confirm with YES, as that is exactly what is wanted
>>>> - run your tests again that used to crash it
>>> nobody out there who is able to reproduce the problem and can say that
>>> Herbert's fix is solving the problem?
>>>
>>> We have reviewed the patch from Herbert with 3 people and the patch is
>>> save. The fix solved the issue for Rob who was able to reproduce the
>>> problem partly before he used the patched library.
>>>
>>> Windows 8 becomes more and more important on the desktop and windows is
>>> our main platform. I tend to a respin at the moment but will wait 1-2
>>> hours longer to receive potentially more feedback.
>>>
>>> Juergen
>>>
>>>> Herbert
>>>>
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Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

[Peter Junge]

On 7/16/2013 6:55 PM, Max Merbald wrote:

Hi Jürgen,

I just tried the same action with both AOO 4 without your dll file and
with it, using even the very same file where I had that crash on June
22, but in neither case did I have a crash this time. I think I'll work
a bit more with Openoffice 4 now and if anything of the kind happens
again I'll report right away and write down the exact circumstances. I
think it might be possible that it happens only in very special
circumstances, maybe dependant on which other software you're running
while working with AOO 4.


I also gave it a try on Windows 8 (64 bit) and there's no sign of a crash.

Elaborating further on particular conditions. Maybe it's related to 
specific hardware, e.g. graphics card?


@Samer: As you seem to be able to reproduce the issue constantly, do you 
have any special hardware?


Peter




Max


Am 16.07.2013 11:48, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:

On 7/16/13 9:56 AM, Herbert Duerr wrote:

On 15.07.2013 22:47, Rob Weir wrote:

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Samer Mansour 
wrote:

I logged my comments in the bug, I searched the db before I opened
a new
bug sorry if its a duplicate.

It is windows 8 64-bit. Crashes on copy and cut.  Paste seems to
not be
affected.

The four steps Rob gave in the bug are the minimum required steps to
reproduce.


An update on this crash.  I was eventually able to reproduce it on
Windows 8, 64-bit.  This was an initial install, not an upgrade.
Samer saw it on an upgrade install.

I worked on the stack trace with Herbert (fortunately my Windows 8
machine had a debugger installed).  Herbert gave me a patch to test.
It appears to work on my machine.  We're waiting to hear back from
Samer on whether it worked for him.

If anyone else was able to reproduce the problem then we'd love to know
whether the DLL at http://people.apache.org/~hdu/sysdtrans.dll
solves the problem. It contains the patch I suggested in issue 122752.

To test it please
- download the DLL
- copy it into the OpenOffice program folder, on most systems this will
be the folder C:\Program Files (x86)\OpenOffice 4\program\
- if the system warns you that you are overwriting a program file then
please confirm with YES, as that is exactly what is wanted
- run your tests again that used to crash it

nobody out there who is able to reproduce the problem and can say that
Herbert's fix is solving the problem?

We have reviewed the patch from Herbert with 3 people and the patch is
save. The fix solved the issue for Rob who was able to reproduce the
problem partly before he used the patched library.

Windows 8 becomes more and more important on the desktop and windows is
our main platform. I tend to a respin at the moment but will wait 1-2
hours longer to receive potentially more feedback.

Juergen


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Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

[Max Merbald]

Hi Jürgen,

I just tried the same action with both AOO 4 without your dll file and 
with it, using even the very same file where I had that crash on June 
22, but in neither case did I have a crash this time. I think I'll work 
a bit more with Openoffice 4 now and if anything of the kind happens 
again I'll report right away and write down the exact circumstances. I 
think it might be possible that it happens only in very special 
circumstances, maybe dependant on which other software you're running 
while working with AOO 4.


Max


Am 16.07.2013 11:48, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:

On 7/16/13 9:56 AM, Herbert Duerr wrote:

On 15.07.2013 22:47, Rob Weir wrote:

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Samer Mansour 
wrote:

I logged my comments in the bug, I searched the db before I opened a new
bug sorry if its a duplicate.

It is windows 8 64-bit. Crashes on copy and cut.  Paste seems to not be
affected.

The four steps Rob gave in the bug are the minimum required steps to
reproduce.


An update on this crash.  I was eventually able to reproduce it on
Windows 8, 64-bit.  This was an initial install, not an upgrade.
Samer saw it on an upgrade install.

I worked on the stack trace with Herbert (fortunately my Windows 8
machine had a debugger installed).  Herbert gave me a patch to test.
It appears to work on my machine.  We're waiting to hear back from
Samer on whether it worked for him.

If anyone else was able to reproduce the problem then we'd love to know
whether the DLL at http://people.apache.org/~hdu/sysdtrans.dll
solves the problem. It contains the patch I suggested in issue 122752.

To test it please
- download the DLL
- copy it into the OpenOffice program folder, on most systems this will
be the folder C:\Program Files (x86)\OpenOffice 4\program\
- if the system warns you that you are overwriting a program file then
please confirm with YES, as that is exactly what is wanted
- run your tests again that used to crash it

nobody out there who is able to reproduce the problem and can say that
Herbert's fix is solving the problem?

We have reviewed the patch from Herbert with 3 people and the patch is
save. The fix solved the issue for Rob who was able to reproduce the
problem partly before he used the patched library.

Windows 8 becomes more and more important on the desktop and windows is
our main platform. I tend to a respin at the moment but will wait 1-2
hours longer to receive potentially more feedback.

Juergen


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Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

[Jürgen Schmidt]

On 7/16/13 9:56 AM, Herbert Duerr wrote:
> On 15.07.2013 22:47, Rob Weir wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Samer Mansour 
>> wrote:
>>> I logged my comments in the bug, I searched the db before I opened a new
>>> bug sorry if its a duplicate.
>>>
>>> It is windows 8 64-bit. Crashes on copy and cut.  Paste seems to not be
>>> affected.
>>>
>>> The four steps Rob gave in the bug are the minimum required steps to
>>> reproduce.
>>>
>>
>> An update on this crash.  I was eventually able to reproduce it on
>> Windows 8, 64-bit.  This was an initial install, not an upgrade.
>> Samer saw it on an upgrade install.
>>
>> I worked on the stack trace with Herbert (fortunately my Windows 8
>> machine had a debugger installed).  Herbert gave me a patch to test.
>> It appears to work on my machine.  We're waiting to hear back from
>> Samer on whether it worked for him.
> 
> If anyone else was able to reproduce the problem then we'd love to know
> whether the DLL at http://people.apache.org/~hdu/sysdtrans.dll
> solves the problem. It contains the patch I suggested in issue 122752.
> 
> To test it please
> - download the DLL
> - copy it into the OpenOffice program folder, on most systems this will
> be the folder C:\Program Files (x86)\OpenOffice 4\program\
> - if the system warns you that you are overwriting a program file then
> please confirm with YES, as that is exactly what is wanted
> - run your tests again that used to crash it

nobody out there who is able to reproduce the problem and can say that
Herbert's fix is solving the problem?

We have reviewed the patch from Herbert with 3 people and the patch is
save. The fix solved the issue for Rob who was able to reproduce the
problem partly before he used the patched library.

Windows 8 becomes more and more important on the desktop and windows is
our main platform. I tend to a respin at the moment but will wait 1-2
hours longer to receive potentially more feedback.

Juergen

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Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

[Herbert Duerr]

On 15.07.2013 22:47, Rob Weir wrote:

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Samer Mansour  wrote:

I logged my comments in the bug, I searched the db before I opened a new
bug sorry if its a duplicate.

It is windows 8 64-bit. Crashes on copy and cut.  Paste seems to not be
affected.

The four steps Rob gave in the bug are the minimum required steps to
reproduce.



An update on this crash.  I was eventually able to reproduce it on
Windows 8, 64-bit.  This was an initial install, not an upgrade.
Samer saw it on an upgrade install.

I worked on the stack trace with Herbert (fortunately my Windows 8
machine had a debugger installed).  Herbert gave me a patch to test.
It appears to work on my machine.  We're waiting to hear back from
Samer on whether it worked for him.


If anyone else was able to reproduce the problem then we'd love to know 
whether the DLL at http://people.apache.org/~hdu/sysdtrans.dll

solves the problem. It contains the patch I suggested in issue 122752.

To test it please
- download the DLL
- copy it into the OpenOffice program folder, on most systems this will 
be the folder C:\Program Files (x86)\OpenOffice 4\program\
- if the system warns you that you are overwriting a program file then 
please confirm with YES, as that is exactly what is wanted

- run your tests again that used to crash it

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Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

[Jürgen Schmidt]

On 7/15/13 10:47 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Samer Mansour  wrote:
>> I logged my comments in the bug, I searched the db before I opened a new
>> bug sorry if its a duplicate.
>>
>> It is windows 8 64-bit. Crashes on copy and cut.  Paste seems to not be
>> affected.
>>
>> The four steps Rob gave in the bug are the minimum required steps to
>> reproduce.
>>
> 
> An update on this crash.  I was eventually able to reproduce it on
> Windows 8, 64-bit.  This was an initial install, not an upgrade.
> Samer saw it on an upgrade install.
> 
> I worked on the stack trace with Herbert (fortunately my Windows 8
> machine had a debugger installed).  Herbert gave me a patch to test.
> It appears to work on my machine.  We're waiting to hear back from
> Samer on whether it worked for him.
> 
> I realize this would be a Royal Pain of the First Order, but I wonder
> if this defect is worth respinning the RC?

mmh, that is of course not really satisfying. If it can be 100%
reproduced and the fix will solve the problem I would do a respin. But a
quick one with only a few selected fixes. That should be quite fast and
no complete turn around should be necessary.

I am looking for more feedback on the issue and if the patch solve the
problem ...

Juergen

> 
> Regards,
> 
> -Rob
> 
> 
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Samer Mansour 
>>> wrote:
>>>> I just got my testlink set up, and received a couple test cases 7 hours
>>> ago.
>>>>
>>>> The first test I went to do I couldn't complete because it caused what I
>>>> think is a show stopper for windows 8 (if its reproducible)
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone copy or cut contents to their system clipboard in windows 8
>>>> using the 4.0.0 RC snapshot?  It causes an immediate crash every time for
>>>> me.
>>>>
>>>
>>> There was some discussion of this on another thread.  Someone reported
>>> a clipboard crash on Windows 8 with an earlier snapshot (not the RC)
>>> but was not able to reproduce it.  I tried yesterday on a clean
>>> Windows 8 install and could not get a crash, copying, pasting, etc.,
>>> content.
>>>
>>> But you are saying it is "cut" not copy.  I can try that.
>>>
>>> Also, are you running 32-bit or 64-bit Windows 8?
>>>
>>> -Rob
>>>
>>>
>>>> Here is the bug I opened,
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122752
>>>>
>>>> Samer
>>>
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Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

[Rob Weir]

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Samer Mansour  wrote:
> I logged my comments in the bug, I searched the db before I opened a new
> bug sorry if its a duplicate.
>
> It is windows 8 64-bit. Crashes on copy and cut.  Paste seems to not be
> affected.
>
> The four steps Rob gave in the bug are the minimum required steps to
> reproduce.
>

An update on this crash.  I was eventually able to reproduce it on
Windows 8, 64-bit.  This was an initial install, not an upgrade.
Samer saw it on an upgrade install.

I worked on the stack trace with Herbert (fortunately my Windows 8
machine had a debugger installed).  Herbert gave me a patch to test.
It appears to work on my machine.  We're waiting to hear back from
Samer on whether it worked for him.

I realize this would be a Royal Pain of the First Order, but I wonder
if this defect is worth respinning the RC?

Regards,

-Rob


>
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Samer Mansour 
>> wrote:
>> > I just got my testlink set up, and received a couple test cases 7 hours
>> ago.
>> >
>> > The first test I went to do I couldn't complete because it caused what I
>> > think is a show stopper for windows 8 (if its reproducible)
>> >
>> > Can anyone copy or cut contents to their system clipboard in windows 8
>> > using the 4.0.0 RC snapshot?  It causes an immediate crash every time for
>> > me.
>> >
>>
>> There was some discussion of this on another thread.  Someone reported
>> a clipboard crash on Windows 8 with an earlier snapshot (not the RC)
>> but was not able to reproduce it.  I tried yesterday on a clean
>> Windows 8 install and could not get a crash, copying, pasting, etc.,
>> content.
>>
>> But you are saying it is "cut" not copy.  I can try that.
>>
>> Also, are you running 32-bit or 64-bit Windows 8?
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>
>> > Here is the bug I opened,
>> > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122752
>> >
>> > Samer
>>
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Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

[Samer Mansour]

I have opened a new bug, with the version from about in the comments,
please let me know if this is still the same bug.
I did a upgrade from 3.4.1 to 4.0.0. Hiding the side panel did not affect
outcome.

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122752


On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 4:21 AM, Andre Fischer  wrote:

> On 15.07.2013 10:09, Andre Fischer wrote:
>
>> On 14.07.2013 22:34, Max Merbald wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello Dennis,
>>>
>>> it's as you said, you select a part in the text and then you right-click
>>> it and click "copy", i. e. in my case it happened when I was trying to copy
>>> by mouse. But as I said it happened several weeks ago and it hasn't
>>> happened again since. My OS is Win8 64 bit too.
>>>
>>
>> This may very well have been caused by a regression bug I have introduced
>> (and later fixed).  It was usually triggered by copying or removing
>> selected text in Writer.  The issues are 121479 (the fix for this bug
>> introduced the regression) and 122682 (fix for it, checked in on July 8th):
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=121479<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121479>
>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122682<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122682>
>>
>> And just to be clear, this has been fixed and is not in the release.
>>
>
> OK, that was not very clear :-)
>
> The bug *fix* is in the release and therefore the bug is not.
>
>
>
>> -Andre
>>
>>
>>> Max
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 14.07.2013 22:14, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:
>>>
>>>> I don't quite understand what this means: "mark something in Writer and
>>>> then copy it."
>>>>
>>>> Is this about selecting something in Writer and copying it to the
>>>> clip-board?  Or is there some other action that reproduces this situation.
>>>>
>>>> I can test this in Windows 8 x64.
>>>>
>>>>   - Dennis
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de]
>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM
>>>> To:dev@openoffice.apache.org
>>>> Cc: Regina Henschel
>>>> Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit
>>>>
>>>> Hi Regina,
>>>>
>>>> I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the
>>>> next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea
>>>> what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.
>>>>
>>>> Max
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark
>>>>> something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
>>>>> The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and
>>>>> then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got
>>>>> Windows 8.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>> Regina
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Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

[Samer Mansour]

I logged my comments in the bug, I searched the db before I opened a new
bug sorry if its a duplicate.

It is windows 8 64-bit. Crashes on copy and cut.  Paste seems to not be
affected.

The four steps Rob gave in the bug are the minimum required steps to
reproduce.


On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Samer Mansour 
> wrote:
> > I just got my testlink set up, and received a couple test cases 7 hours
> ago.
> >
> > The first test I went to do I couldn't complete because it caused what I
> > think is a show stopper for windows 8 (if its reproducible)
> >
> > Can anyone copy or cut contents to their system clipboard in windows 8
> > using the 4.0.0 RC snapshot?  It causes an immediate crash every time for
> > me.
> >
>
> There was some discussion of this on another thread.  Someone reported
> a clipboard crash on Windows 8 with an earlier snapshot (not the RC)
> but was not able to reproduce it.  I tried yesterday on a clean
> Windows 8 install and could not get a crash, copying, pasting, etc.,
> content.
>
> But you are saying it is "cut" not copy.  I can try that.
>
> Also, are you running 32-bit or 64-bit Windows 8?
>
> -Rob
>
>
> > Here is the bug I opened,
> > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122752
> >
> > Samer
>
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Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

[Rob Weir]

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Samer Mansour  wrote:
> I just got my testlink set up, and received a couple test cases 7 hours ago.
>
> The first test I went to do I couldn't complete because it caused what I
> think is a show stopper for windows 8 (if its reproducible)
>
> Can anyone copy or cut contents to their system clipboard in windows 8
> using the 4.0.0 RC snapshot?  It causes an immediate crash every time for
> me.
>

There was some discussion of this on another thread.  Someone reported
a clipboard crash on Windows 8 with an earlier snapshot (not the RC)
but was not able to reproduce it.  I tried yesterday on a clean
Windows 8 install and could not get a crash, copying, pasting, etc.,
content.

But you are saying it is "cut" not copy.  I can try that.

Also, are you running 32-bit or 64-bit Windows 8?

-Rob


> Here is the bug I opened,
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122752
>
> Samer

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Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

[Samer Mansour]

I just got my testlink set up, and received a couple test cases 7 hours ago.

The first test I went to do I couldn't complete because it caused what I
think is a show stopper for windows 8 (if its reproducible)

Can anyone copy or cut contents to their system clipboard in windows 8
using the 4.0.0 RC snapshot?  It causes an immediate crash every time for
me.

Here is the bug I opened,
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122752

Samer

Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

[Andre Fischer]

On 15.07.2013 10:09, Andre Fischer wrote:

On 14.07.2013 22:34, Max Merbald wrote:


Hello Dennis,

it's as you said, you select a part in the text and then you 
right-click it and click "copy", i. e. in my case it happened when I 
was trying to copy by mouse. But as I said it happened several weeks 
ago and it hasn't happened again since. My OS is Win8 64 bit too.


This may very well have been caused by a regression bug I have 
introduced (and later fixed).  It was usually triggered by copying or 
removing selected text in Writer.  The issues are 121479 (the fix for 
this bug introduced the regression) and 122682 (fix for it, checked in 
on July 8th):


https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121479
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122682

And just to be clear, this has been fixed and is not in the release.


OK, that was not very clear :-)

The bug *fix* is in the release and therefore the bug is not.



-Andre



Max


Am 14.07.2013 22:14, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:
I don't quite understand what this means: "mark something in Writer 
and then copy it."


Is this about selecting something in Writer and copying it to the 
clip-board?  Or is there some other action that reproduces this 
situation.


I can test this in Windows 8 x64.

  - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM
To:dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Regina Henschel
Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

Hi Regina,

I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the
next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea
what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.

Max


Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi all,

there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark
something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and
then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.

Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got
Windows 8.

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Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

[Andre Fischer]

On 14.07.2013 22:34, Max Merbald wrote:


Hello Dennis,

it's as you said, you select a part in the text and then you 
right-click it and click "copy", i. e. in my case it happened when I 
was trying to copy by mouse. But as I said it happened several weeks 
ago and it hasn't happened again since. My OS is Win8 64 bit too.


This may very well have been caused by a regression bug I have 
introduced (and later fixed).  It was usually triggered by copying or 
removing selected text in Writer.  The issues are 121479 (the fix for 
this bug introduced the regression) and 122682 (fix for it, checked in 
on July 8th):


https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121479
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122682

And just to be clear, this has been fixed and is not in the release.

-Andre



Max


Am 14.07.2013 22:14, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:
I don't quite understand what this means: "mark something in Writer 
and then copy it."


Is this about selecting something in Writer and copying it to the 
clip-board?  Or is there some other action that reproduces this 
situation.


I can test this in Windows 8 x64.

  - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM
To:dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Regina Henschel
Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

Hi Regina,

I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the
next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea
what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.

Max


Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi all,

there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark
something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and
then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.

Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got
Windows 8.

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Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

[Peter Junge]

On 7/15/2013 10:30 AM, Rob Weir wrote:

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Regina Henschel
 wrote:


[...]



And my translation:
I have deleted two OO-Config Folder in AppData\Roaming which I missed in my
first attempt.
- AppData\Roaming\3 of the previously deinstalled AOO341
- AppData\Roaming\4 of the parallel installed AOO400-Snapshots.
- And the installation folders in \Program File(x86)
I had deinstalled/deleted AOO341 and AOO400-Snapshot already before
RC-Installation.
I assume, that an Average Joe user has not installed a snapshot previously
and therefore no config folder \4 exists.
Up to now I have always installed the full versions over my old versions,
and never got problems (or never notice some.)



I'll do some testing tonight.  I have two "clean" VM images, for
Windows 8 32-bit and Windows 7 64-bit, that I can install the AOO 4.0
RC on.  Since these are fresh images they don't have any residual
files from previous AOO installs.



I was not able to get a crash with AOO 4.0 RC on Windows 7 64-bit or
Windows 8 32-bit.

I tested Writer in a document with a mix of objects and formats, doing
a lot of editing, formatting, copy/paste and delete operations,
including formatting via the Sidepanel.

This was the en-US version.

So this doesn't look like a "shallow" crash that everyone will see.
But it would be good to narrow it down.For example, has anyone
seen it on a non-German version?  Is that a clue?  Is a particular
object involved?  I tried also with images, drawings, lists, tables,
etc.  Was anything more exotic involved?


While I was a QA engineer for OpenOffice at Sun, we had:
++ Crashes that were limited to a particular language
++ Crashes that happened only (exactly) once with every installation.
++ Crashes that happened only after the first start of an installation
++ Of course, crashes that were limited to a particular language
++ ...

Now imagine even a combination of two or more of those preconditions and 
you may prefer looking for a needle in a haystack.


Virtualbox for example has the great feature of taking snapshots. That 
should be extremely useful to be able to rollback preconditions.


Peter



Mine was a clean new install, not an update.  But it is hard to
imagine a scenario where copy or delete operations behave differently
depending on whether the install was an update or not.

-Rob



-Rob




Kind regards
Regina




Kind regards
Regina



   - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Regina Henschel
Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

Hi Regina,

I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the
next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea
what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.

Max


Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:


Hi all,

there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark
something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and
then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.

Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got
Windows 8.

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Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

[Max Merbald]

Hello Rob,

at the time I experienced that crash on Jun 22 in build 9701 no german 
version was available, just the US American. However, as I said' I 
haven't been able to reproduce that crash since, neither with build 9701 
nor with the RC. And  I don't remember which panel I may have used 
either. It seems it only occurs in very special circumstances.


Max


Am 15.07.2013 04:30, schrieb Rob Weir:

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Regina Henschel
 wrote:

Hi,

Regina Henschel schrieb:


Hi Dennis,

Dennis E. Hamilton schrieb:

I don't quite understand what this means: "mark something in Writer
and then copy it."

Is this about selecting something in Writer and copying it to the
clip-board?

Yes, that do I mean.

Or is there some other action that reproduces this situation.

I can test this in Windows 8 x64.

That is nice, please do it.

The poster has done some "cleanup" now, installed again, and the error
no longer occurs. I have ask him to tell us, what he has done, but have
no answer yet.

I have the answer now. The mail

is not in the archive yet. If you will read the thread there, look for
subject
AOO400 stürzt beim kopieren ab. (Was:  AOO 4.0.0 ReleaseCandidate verfügbar)
from Detlef Nannen.

Here a copy:

Ich habe unter AppData\Roaming zwei OO-ConfigOrdner gelöscht, an die ich
beim ersten Anlauf nicht gedacht hatte.
- AppData\Roaming\3 des vorher deinstallierten AOO341
- AppData\Roaming\4 des parallell installierten AOO400-Snapshots.
- Dann noch die Installationsordner unter \Program File(x86)

AOO341 und AOO400-Snapshot hatte ich bereits vor der RC-Installation
deinstalliert/gelöscht.
Ich nehme mal an, dass Otto-Normaluser vorher keinen Snapshot installiert
hatte, und somit kein Configordner \4 existiert.

Bisher hatte ich die vollen Versionen immer über die alten Versionen
drüberinstalliert, und mir nie ein Problem damit eingehandelt (oder bin nie
darauf gestoßen).


And my translation:
I have deleted two OO-Config Folder in AppData\Roaming which I missed in my
first attempt.
- AppData\Roaming\3 of the previously deinstalled AOO341
- AppData\Roaming\4 of the parallel installed AOO400-Snapshots.
- And the installation folders in \Program File(x86)
I had deinstalled/deleted AOO341 and AOO400-Snapshot already before
RC-Installation.
I assume, that an Average Joe user has not installed a snapshot previously
and therefore no config folder \4 exists.
Up to now I have always installed the full versions over my old versions,
and never got problems (or never notice some.)


I'll do some testing tonight.  I have two "clean" VM images, for
Windows 8 32-bit and Windows 7 64-bit, that I can install the AOO 4.0
RC on.  Since these are fresh images they don't have any residual
files from previous AOO installs.


I was not able to get a crash with AOO 4.0 RC on Windows 7 64-bit or
Windows 8 32-bit.

I tested Writer in a document with a mix of objects and formats, doing
a lot of editing, formatting, copy/paste and delete operations,
including formatting via the Sidepanel.

This was the en-US version.

So this doesn't look like a "shallow" crash that everyone will see.
But it would be good to narrow it down.For example, has anyone
seen it on a non-German version?  Is that a clue?  Is a particular
object involved?  I tried also with images, drawings, lists, tables,
etc.  Was anything more exotic involved?

Mine was a clean new install, not an update.  But it is hard to
imagine a scenario where copy or delete operations behave differently
depending on whether the install was an update or not.

-Rob



-Rob




Kind regards
Regina



Kind regards
Regina


   - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Regina Henschel
Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

Hi Regina,

I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the
next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea
what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.

Max


Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi all,

there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark
something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and
then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.

Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got
Windows 8.

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Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

[Rob Weir]

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Regina Henschel
>  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Regina Henschel schrieb:
>>
>>> Hi Dennis,
>>>
>>> Dennis E. Hamilton schrieb:
>>>>
>>>> I don't quite understand what this means: "mark something in Writer
>>>> and then copy it."
>>>>
>>>> Is this about selecting something in Writer and copying it to the
>>>> clip-board?
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, that do I mean.
>>>
>>>Or is there some other action that reproduces this situation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can test this in Windows 8 x64.
>>>
>>>
>>> That is nice, please do it.
>>>
>>> The poster has done some "cleanup" now, installed again, and the error
>>> no longer occurs. I have ask him to tell us, what he has done, but have
>>> no answer yet.
>>
>>
>> I have the answer now. The mail
>> 
>> is not in the archive yet. If you will read the thread there, look for
>> subject
>> AOO400 stürzt beim kopieren ab. (Was:  AOO 4.0.0 ReleaseCandidate verfügbar)
>> from Detlef Nannen.
>>
>> Here a copy:
>> 
>> Ich habe unter AppData\Roaming zwei OO-ConfigOrdner gelöscht, an die ich
>> beim ersten Anlauf nicht gedacht hatte.
>> - AppData\Roaming\3 des vorher deinstallierten AOO341
>> - AppData\Roaming\4 des parallell installierten AOO400-Snapshots.
>> - Dann noch die Installationsordner unter \Program File(x86)
>>
>> AOO341 und AOO400-Snapshot hatte ich bereits vor der RC-Installation
>> deinstalliert/gelöscht.
>> Ich nehme mal an, dass Otto-Normaluser vorher keinen Snapshot installiert
>> hatte, und somit kein Configordner \4 existiert.
>>
>> Bisher hatte ich die vollen Versionen immer über die alten Versionen
>> drüberinstalliert, und mir nie ein Problem damit eingehandelt (oder bin nie
>> darauf gestoßen).
>> 
>>
>> And my translation:
>> I have deleted two OO-Config Folder in AppData\Roaming which I missed in my
>> first attempt.
>> - AppData\Roaming\3 of the previously deinstalled AOO341
>> - AppData\Roaming\4 of the parallel installed AOO400-Snapshots.
>> - And the installation folders in \Program File(x86)
>> I had deinstalled/deleted AOO341 and AOO400-Snapshot already before
>> RC-Installation.
>> I assume, that an Average Joe user has not installed a snapshot previously
>> and therefore no config folder \4 exists.
>> Up to now I have always installed the full versions over my old versions,
>> and never got problems (or never notice some.)
>>
>
> I'll do some testing tonight.  I have two "clean" VM images, for
> Windows 8 32-bit and Windows 7 64-bit, that I can install the AOO 4.0
> RC on.  Since these are fresh images they don't have any residual
> files from previous AOO installs.
>

I was not able to get a crash with AOO 4.0 RC on Windows 7 64-bit or
Windows 8 32-bit.

I tested Writer in a document with a mix of objects and formats, doing
a lot of editing, formatting, copy/paste and delete operations,
including formatting via the Sidepanel.

This was the en-US version.

So this doesn't look like a "shallow" crash that everyone will see.
But it would be good to narrow it down.For example, has anyone
seen it on a non-German version?  Is that a clue?  Is a particular
object involved?  I tried also with images, drawings, lists, tables,
etc.  Was anything more exotic involved?

Mine was a clean new install, not an update.  But it is hard to
imagine a scenario where copy or delete operations behave differently
depending on whether the install was an update or not.

-Rob


> -Rob
>
>
>
>> Kind regards
>> Regina
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> Regina
>>>
>>>>
>>>>   - Dennis
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de]
>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM
>>>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>>>> Cc: Regina Henschel
>>>> Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit
>>>>
>>>> Hi Regina,
>>>>
>>>> I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the
>>>> next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea
>>>> what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.
>>>>
>>>> Max
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 

RE: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

I have not been able to duplicate this.  I think more information is needed on 
the exact failure case.

(I did encounter a FirstRun "OpenOffice 4.0.0 - Fatal Error" but that was about 
dictionary extensions and apparently a bug in the dialog about dictionaries 
already installed and the option to replace it with the same version or not.)

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de] 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 01:34 PM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; Dennis E. Hamilton
Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit


Hello Dennis,

it's as you said, you select a part in the text and then you right-click 
it and click "copy", i. e. in my case it happened when I was trying to 
copy by mouse. But as I said it happened several weeks ago and it hasn't 
happened again since. My OS is Win8 64 bit too.

Max


Am 14.07.2013 22:14, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:
> I don't quite understand what this means: "mark something in Writer and then 
> copy it."
>
> Is this about selecting something in Writer and copying it to the clip-board? 
>  Or is there some other action that reproduces this situation.
>
> I can test this in Windows 8 x64.
>
>   - Dennis
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de]
> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM
> To:dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Cc: Regina Henschel
> Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit
>
> Hi Regina,
>
> I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the
> next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea
> what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.
>
> Max
>
>
> Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark
>> something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
>> The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and
>> then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.
>>
>> Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got
>> Windows 8.
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Regina
>>
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Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

[Rob Weir]

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Regina Henschel
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Regina Henschel schrieb:
>
>> Hi Dennis,
>>
>> Dennis E. Hamilton schrieb:
>>>
>>> I don't quite understand what this means: "mark something in Writer
>>> and then copy it."
>>>
>>> Is this about selecting something in Writer and copying it to the
>>> clip-board?
>>
>>
>> Yes, that do I mean.
>>
>>Or is there some other action that reproduces this situation.
>>>
>>>
>>> I can test this in Windows 8 x64.
>>
>>
>> That is nice, please do it.
>>
>> The poster has done some "cleanup" now, installed again, and the error
>> no longer occurs. I have ask him to tell us, what he has done, but have
>> no answer yet.
>
>
> I have the answer now. The mail
> 
> is not in the archive yet. If you will read the thread there, look for
> subject
> AOO400 stürzt beim kopieren ab. (Was:  AOO 4.0.0 ReleaseCandidate verfügbar)
> from Detlef Nannen.
>
> Here a copy:
> 
> Ich habe unter AppData\Roaming zwei OO-ConfigOrdner gelöscht, an die ich
> beim ersten Anlauf nicht gedacht hatte.
> - AppData\Roaming\3 des vorher deinstallierten AOO341
> - AppData\Roaming\4 des parallell installierten AOO400-Snapshots.
> - Dann noch die Installationsordner unter \Program File(x86)
>
> AOO341 und AOO400-Snapshot hatte ich bereits vor der RC-Installation
> deinstalliert/gelöscht.
> Ich nehme mal an, dass Otto-Normaluser vorher keinen Snapshot installiert
> hatte, und somit kein Configordner \4 existiert.
>
> Bisher hatte ich die vollen Versionen immer über die alten Versionen
> drüberinstalliert, und mir nie ein Problem damit eingehandelt (oder bin nie
> darauf gestoßen).
> 
>
> And my translation:
> I have deleted two OO-Config Folder in AppData\Roaming which I missed in my
> first attempt.
> - AppData\Roaming\3 of the previously deinstalled AOO341
> - AppData\Roaming\4 of the parallel installed AOO400-Snapshots.
> - And the installation folders in \Program File(x86)
> I had deinstalled/deleted AOO341 and AOO400-Snapshot already before
> RC-Installation.
> I assume, that an Average Joe user has not installed a snapshot previously
> and therefore no config folder \4 exists.
> Up to now I have always installed the full versions over my old versions,
> and never got problems (or never notice some.)
>

I'll do some testing tonight.  I have two "clean" VM images, for
Windows 8 32-bit and Windows 7 64-bit, that I can install the AOO 4.0
RC on.  Since these are fresh images they don't have any residual
files from previous AOO installs.

-Rob



> Kind regards
> Regina
>
>
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Regina
>>
>>>
>>>   - Dennis
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de]
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM
>>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>>> Cc: Regina Henschel
>>> Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit
>>>
>>> Hi Regina,
>>>
>>> I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the
>>> next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea
>>> what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.
>>>
>>> Max
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark
>>>> something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
>>>> The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and
>>>> then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.
>>>>
>>>> Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got
>>>> Windows 8.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> Regina
>>>>
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Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

[Regina Henschel]

Hi,

Regina Henschel schrieb:

Hi Dennis,

Dennis E. Hamilton schrieb:

I don't quite understand what this means: "mark something in Writer
and then copy it."

Is this about selecting something in Writer and copying it to the
clip-board?


Yes, that do I mean.

   Or is there some other action that reproduces this situation.


I can test this in Windows 8 x64.


That is nice, please do it.

The poster has done some "cleanup" now, installed again, and the error
no longer occurs. I have ask him to tell us, what he has done, but have
no answer yet.


I have the answer now. The mail 


is not in the archive yet. If you will read the thread there, look for
subject
AOO400 stürzt beim kopieren ab. (Was:  AOO 4.0.0 ReleaseCandidate verfügbar)
from Detlef Nannen.

Here a copy:

Ich habe unter AppData\Roaming zwei OO-ConfigOrdner gelöscht, an die ich
beim ersten Anlauf nicht gedacht hatte.
- AppData\Roaming\3 des vorher deinstallierten AOO341
- AppData\Roaming\4 des parallell installierten AOO400-Snapshots.
- Dann noch die Installationsordner unter \Program File(x86)

AOO341 und AOO400-Snapshot hatte ich bereits vor der RC-Installation
deinstalliert/gelöscht.
Ich nehme mal an, dass Otto-Normaluser vorher keinen Snapshot installiert
hatte, und somit kein Configordner \4 existiert.

Bisher hatte ich die vollen Versionen immer über die alten Versionen
drüberinstalliert, und mir nie ein Problem damit eingehandelt (oder bin nie
darauf gestoßen).


And my translation:
I have deleted two OO-Config Folder in AppData\Roaming which I missed in 
my first attempt.

- AppData\Roaming\3 of the previously deinstalled AOO341
- AppData\Roaming\4 of the parallel installed AOO400-Snapshots.
- And the installation folders in \Program File(x86)
I had deinstalled/deleted AOO341 and AOO400-Snapshot already before 
RC-Installation.
I assume, that an Average Joe user has not installed a snapshot 
previously and therefore no config folder \4 exists.
Up to now I have always installed the full versions over my old 
versions, and never got problems (or never notice some.)


Kind regards
Regina



Kind regards
Regina



  - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Regina Henschel
Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

Hi Regina,

I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the
next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea
what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.

Max


Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi all,

there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark
something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and
then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.

Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got
Windows 8.

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Regina

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Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

[Rob Weir]

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Raphael Bircher  wrote:
> Hi at all
>
> I have had a similar behavur with Win 7 64. But with select -> Delete ->
> Crash. I can verify this tomorrow morning.
>

It would certainly be wonderful if someone -- anyone -- could write up
a BZ issue if they think they can reproduce a crash.   That would be a
good place to but the exact version number, language, etc.   It is
probably relevant to know what application you were running and what
type of content you had selected.   Since the Sidepanel is the notable
new thing in this release, it would also be good to know which panel
you were showing at the time of the crash.  Perhaps there is an
attribute update bug related to deletion of particular content?

-Rob


> Greetings Raphael
>
> Am 14.07.13 22:34, schrieb Max Merbald:
>
>>
>> Hello Dennis,
>>
>> it's as you said, you select a part in the text and then you right-click
>> it and click "copy", i. e. in my case it happened when I was trying to copy
>> by mouse. But as I said it happened several weeks ago and it hasn't happened
>> again since. My OS is Win8 64 bit too.
>>
>> Max
>>
>>
>> Am 14.07.2013 22:14, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:
>>>
>>> I don't quite understand what this means: "mark something in Writer and
>>> then copy it."
>>>
>>> Is this about selecting something in Writer and copying it to the
>>> clip-board?  Or is there some other action that reproduces this situation.
>>>
>>> I can test this in Windows 8 x64.
>>>
>>>   - Dennis
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de]
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM
>>> To:dev@openoffice.apache.org
>>> Cc: Regina Henschel
>>> Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit
>>>
>>> Hi Regina,
>>>
>>> I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the
>>> next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea
>>> what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.
>>>
>>> Max
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark
>>>> something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
>>>> The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and
>>>> then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.
>>>>
>>>> Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got
>>>> Windows 8.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> Regina
>>>>
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Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

[Raphael Bircher]

Hi at all

I have had a similar behavur with Win 7 64. But with select -> Delete -> 
Crash. I can verify this tomorrow morning.


Greetings Raphael

Am 14.07.13 22:34, schrieb Max Merbald:


Hello Dennis,

it's as you said, you select a part in the text and then you 
right-click it and click "copy", i. e. in my case it happened when I 
was trying to copy by mouse. But as I said it happened several weeks 
ago and it hasn't happened again since. My OS is Win8 64 bit too.


Max


Am 14.07.2013 22:14, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:
I don't quite understand what this means: "mark something in Writer 
and then copy it."


Is this about selecting something in Writer and copying it to the 
clip-board?  Or is there some other action that reproduces this 
situation.


I can test this in Windows 8 x64.

  - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM
To:dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Regina Henschel
Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

Hi Regina,

I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the
next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea
what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.

Max


Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi all,

there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark
something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and
then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.

Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got
Windows 8.

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Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

[Max Merbald]

Hello Dennis,

it's as you said, you select a part in the text and then you right-click 
it and click "copy", i. e. in my case it happened when I was trying to 
copy by mouse. But as I said it happened several weeks ago and it hasn't 
happened again since. My OS is Win8 64 bit too.


Max


Am 14.07.2013 22:14, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:

I don't quite understand what this means: "mark something in Writer and then copy 
it."

Is this about selecting something in Writer and copying it to the clip-board?  
Or is there some other action that reproduces this situation.

I can test this in Windows 8 x64.

  - Dennis

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From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM
To:dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Regina Henschel
Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

Hi Regina,

I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the
next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea
what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.

Max


Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi all,

there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark
something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and
then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.

Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got
Windows 8.

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Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

[Regina Henschel]

Hi Dennis,

Dennis E. Hamilton schrieb:

I don't quite understand what this means: "mark something in Writer and then copy 
it."

Is this about selecting something in Writer and copying it to the clip-board?


Yes, that do I mean.

  Or is there some other action that reproduces this situation.


I can test this in Windows 8 x64.


That is nice, please do it.

The poster has done some "cleanup" now, installed again, and the error 
no longer occurs. I have ask him to tell us, what he has done, but have 
no answer yet.


Kind regards
Regina



  - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Regina Henschel
Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

Hi Regina,

I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the
next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea
what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.

Max


Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi all,

there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark
something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and
then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.

Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got
Windows 8.

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RE: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

I don't quite understand what this means: "mark something in Writer and then 
copy it."

Is this about selecting something in Writer and copying it to the clip-board?  
Or is there some other action that reproduces this situation.

I can test this in Windows 8 x64.  

 - Dennis

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Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Regina Henschel
Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

Hi Regina,

I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the 
next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea 
what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.

Max


Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:
> Hi all,
>
> there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark 
> something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
> The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and 
> then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.
>
> Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got 
> Windows 8.
>
> Kind regards
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Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

[Max Merbald]

Hi Regina,

I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the 
next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea 
what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.


Max


Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi all,

there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark 
something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and 
then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.


Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got 
Windows 8.


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Regina

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Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

[Regina Henschel]

Hi all,

there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark 
something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and then 
installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.


Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got 
Windows 8.


Kind regards
Regina

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Re: Launching OpenOffice on windows 8 after a silent installation

[nikita sharma]

Hi Alexandro,

I just installed OpenOffice.Org 3.4.1 on my Win8 and I am successfully able
to see the icon for Openoffice.org 3.4.1 in "Programs and Features" item
under "Control Panel ".

Also, I can see 6 to 7 icons of OpenOffice Application in "All Apps" in
Metro UI.

PS: I downloaded the installer from
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/?source=dlp

Regards,
Nikita




On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> There are some issues about installing OpenOffice in a Windows 8 desktop:
>
> I can find and launch all the program in "program" folder under my
> installation path. (Refer to the attached screenshot)
>
>
>
> But I still have two problems:
>
> 1. After installation, Openoffice can not be found both in "Programs and
> Features" item of control pannel and "All apps" item of Metro UI.
>
>Whether is this normal?
>
> 2. Except going to the program folder, whether can end user launch
> openoffice by other method easily?
>
> I haven't found any launch icon or shortcut (including
> desktop/metro/system tray icons).
>
>
> --
> Alexandro Colorado
> Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> http://www.openoffice.org
>

Launching OpenOffice on windows 8 after a silent installation

[Alexandro Colorado]

Hello,

There are some issues about installing OpenOffice in a Windows 8 desktop:

I can find and launch all the program in "program" folder under my
installation path. (Refer to the attached screenshot)



But I still have two problems:

1. After installation, Openoffice can not be found both in "Programs and
Features" item of control pannel and "All apps" item of Metro UI.

   Whether is this normal?

2. Except going to the program folder, whether can end user launch
openoffice by other method easily?

I haven't found any launch icon or shortcut (including
desktop/metro/system tray icons).


-- 
Alexandro Colorado
Apache OpenOffice Contributor
http://www.openoffice.org

Re: 3.4.1_release_blocker canceled: [Bug 119946] [Windows 8 certification]Windows App Certification Kit - Test for "Section 3 Apps support Windows security features" is failed.

[Andrea Pescetti]

Donald Whytock wrote:

This was sent to the incubating mailing list.  Is fixing that a JIRA?


More than an infra task, this is something for Bugzilla admins (in CC, 
but maybe it's already been fixed). Summary: notification of release 
blockers should go to the current list address, not to the incubator one.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: 3.4.1_release_blocker canceled: [Bug 119946] [Windows 8 certification]Windows App Certification Kit - Test for "Section 3 Apps support Windows security features" is failed.

[Donald Whytock]

This was sent to the incubating mailing list.  Is fixing that a JIRA?

Don


On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 9:11 AM,  wrote:

> Oliver-Rainer Wittmann  has canceled
>  3.4.1_release_blocker:
> Bug 119946: [Windows 8 certification]Windows App Certification Kit - Test
> for
> "Section 3 Apps support Windows security features" is failed.
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119946
>
>
> --- Additional Comments from Oliver-Rainer Wittmann 
> no show stopper as Windows 8 certification is not in our scope for AOO 4.0
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3.4.1_release_blocker canceled: [Bug 119946] [Windows 8 certification]Windows App Certification Kit - Test for "Section 3 Apps support Windows security features" is failed.

[bugzilla]

Oliver-Rainer Wittmann  has canceled  3.4.1_release_blocker:
Bug 119946: [Windows 8 certification]Windows App Certification Kit - Test for
"Section 3 Apps support Windows security features" is failed.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119946


--- Additional Comments from Oliver-Rainer Wittmann 
no show stopper as Windows 8 certification is not in our scope for AOO 4.0

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Re: Windows 8 Operating System

[Max Merbald]

Hello Arden,

there's no problem at all using OpenOffice on Win 8. I've been using AOO 
on Win 8 since Oct 30, 2012, and I never had any problems at all.


Max


Am 06.03.2013 15:09, schrieb sean...@gmail.com:

Please tell me, Is openoffice compatible with the new Microsoft Windows 8 
Operating System?

  


I searched through many pages of information and finally found the list of 
compatibility but Windows 8 was not listed however a friend told me no problem.

Before I download this I desire to confirm.

  


Please advise,

Thanks

Arden Davis



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Re: Windows 8 Operating System

[FR web forum]

https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/your_top_questions_answered
Question #11

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De: sean...@gmail.com
À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Envoyé: Mercredi 6 Mars 2013 15:09:19
Objet: Windows 8 Operating System

Please tell me, Is openoffice compatible with the new Microsoft Windows 8 
Operating System?

 

I searched through many pages of information and finally found the list of 
compatibility but Windows 8 was not listed however a friend told me no problem. 

Before I download this I desire to confirm. 

 

Please advise,

Thanks

Arden Davis



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Windows 8 Operating System

[seanutr]

Please tell me, Is openoffice compatible with the new Microsoft Windows 8 
Operating System?

 

I searched through many pages of information and finally found the list of 
compatibility but Windows 8 was not listed however a friend told me no problem. 

Before I download this I desire to confirm. 

 

Please advise,

Thanks

Arden Davis



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Re: Openoffice for Windows 8

[Max Merbald]

Hi there,

OpenOffice works perfectly well on Win 8, I've been using it with Win 8 
since Oct 30, 2012, only a few days after Win 8 became available.



Am 26.01.2013 07:53, schrieb whattonea...@btinternet.com:

Could you advise me if Openoffice is able to operate on Windows 8. I am wanting 
to download Apache Openoffice to my new laptop which operates on Windows 8. At 
the moment I am unable to find a source which will allow the download.


Sent from Windows Mail

Re: Openoffice for Windows 8

[Andrea Pescetti]

whattonearth wrote:

Could you advise me if Openoffice is able to operate on Windows 8.


"Yes. Although Microsoft Windows 8 was only in preview when we released 
Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1, subsequent testing and user feedback has been 
positive, and no incompatibilities have emerged so far.  Note: 
OpenOffice runs as a desktop application on the x86 or x64 platforms. 
We don't support Windows RT or the Metro UI."


(this is quoted from the project's blog, https://blogs.apache.org/OOo )

Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: Windows 8 compatibility

[Marcus (OOo)]

Am 12/30/2012 06:33 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 7:59 PM, F C. Costero  wrote:

There is a steady stream of questions on the Google Questions list about
AOO compatibility with Windows 8. Some mention a problem with installation
and others merely ask if AOO will work on that OS. No details of the
installation problems have been provided, so I have no reason to believe
there is a technical problem. Also, I haven't seen much traffic on the en
or es forums on this issue. However, it seems the download pages could be
clearer about compatibility. This one:
http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_aoo34.html
doesn't mention Windows 8 at all. Is there any reason not to include
Windows 8 on that page?



Windows 8 was not officially released yet when AOO 3.4.1 was released.
   But we tested with the preview version of Windows 8 and AOO 3.4.1
appeared to work well.


Even when this is not much of content (not what you wrote but in general 
;-) ), I've updated the above mentioned webpage to indicate that AOO 
3.4.1 can be used with Windows 8.


Marcus




So the question might be:  what level of testing do we require before
listing Windows 8 as "supported"?

-Rob


Best regards,
Francis

Re: Windows 8 compatibility

[Joost Andrae]

Hi,



Windows 8 was not officially released yet when AOO 3.4.1 was released.
   But we tested with the preview version of Windows 8 and AOO 3.4.1
appeared to work well.

So the question might be:  what level of testing do we require before
listing Windows 8 as "supported"?



The question is: Do VCL or SAL support Win8's touch interface ? Are 
there any other changes in Win8 that need to be supported ? If AOO wants 
to fully support Win8 platforms is there a legal way to build and to 
distribute a Win8 ARM version without following Win8's (closed shop) 
business model ? Is it compatible to Apache's license ?


...just some ideas...

Joost

Re: Windows 8 compatibility

[Max Merbald]

I've been using Windows 8 since Oct 30, and I am also using Apache 
OpenOffice and I haven't had any problems so far. Of course I didn't 
have to install OpenOffice because I already had version 3.4.1 when I 
installed Win 8. So I can say there is no problem using AOO on Win 8 but 
I can't say anything about installing it.


Max


Am 30.12.2012 01:59, schrieb F C. Costero:

There is a steady stream of questions on the Google Questions list about
AOO compatibility with Windows 8. Some mention a problem with installation
and others merely ask if AOO will work on that OS. No details of the
installation problems have been provided, so I have no reason to believe
there is a technical problem. Also, I haven't seen much traffic on the en
or es forums on this issue. However, it seems the download pages could be
clearer about compatibility. This one:
http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_aoo34.html
doesn't mention Windows 8 at all. Is there any reason not to include
Windows 8 on that page?
Best regards,
Francis

Re: Windows 8 compatibility

[Rob Weir]

On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 7:59 PM, F C. Costero  wrote:
> There is a steady stream of questions on the Google Questions list about
> AOO compatibility with Windows 8. Some mention a problem with installation
> and others merely ask if AOO will work on that OS. No details of the
> installation problems have been provided, so I have no reason to believe
> there is a technical problem. Also, I haven't seen much traffic on the en
> or es forums on this issue. However, it seems the download pages could be
> clearer about compatibility. This one:
> http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_aoo34.html
> doesn't mention Windows 8 at all. Is there any reason not to include
> Windows 8 on that page?


Windows 8 was not officially released yet when AOO 3.4.1 was released.
  But we tested with the preview version of Windows 8 and AOO 3.4.1
appeared to work well.

So the question might be:  what level of testing do we require before
listing Windows 8 as "supported"?

-Rob

> Best regards,
> Francis

Re: Windows 8 compatibility

[Michael Acevedo]

As far as I know, Windows 8 and AOO should work. When you open Apache
OpenOffice, it should work as a classic desktop application since there's
no "Metro" version of Apache OpenOffice available as of now.

At least according to the Microsoft Windows 8 compatibility center, Apache
OpenOffice 3.4 is compatible and does not require any tweaks from the users
end.

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/compatibility/win8/CompatCenter/ProductDetailsViewer?Type=Software&Name=OpenOffice&Vendor=Apache&ModelOrVersion=3&Locale=1033&BreadcrumbPath=Openoffice&tempOsid=win8

Hope you find this helpful.

On Saturday, December 29, 2012, F C. Costero wrote:

> There is a steady stream of questions on the Google Questions list about
> AOO compatibility with Windows 8. Some mention a problem with installation
> and others merely ask if AOO will work on that OS. No details of the
> installation problems have been provided, so I have no reason to believe
> there is a technical problem. Also, I haven't seen much traffic on the en
> or es forums on this issue. However, it seems the download pages could be
> clearer about compatibility. This one:
> http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_aoo34.html
> doesn't mention Windows 8 at all. Is there any reason not to include
> Windows 8 on that page?
> Best regards,
> Francis
>


-- 
Best,
Michael

Re: OpenOffice 3.4.1 is Compatible with Windows 8

[Albino Biasutti Neto]

Hi

2012/12/14 Ross Gardler :
> When doing the UI for 4.0 it might be good to add such a feature.

The trend will be ahead in technology.

  Albino

Re: OpenOffice 3.4.1 is Compatible with Windows 8

[Ross Gardler]

No it will not run on RT. This is not unique to AOO, no desktop apps will
run on RT.

Sent from my tablet
On Dec 14, 2012 8:53 AM, "janI"  wrote:

> Are any of the machines based on windows8 RT ?
>
> I am looking into buying a surface tablet, and would of course love to have
> AOO running on it.
>
> Jan.
>
> On 14 December 2012 09:50, Ross Gardler 
> wrote:
>
> > I use OO on a couple of windows 8 machines (one clean install, one
> upgrade
> > from Win 7). I've experienced no problems.
> >
> > Touch is a problem, as you would imagine it is for most apps designed for
> > Win7. One of the things MS applcations do is provide a "touch" mode. This
> > simply puts larger margins around the main interface widgets (all of a
> > sudden the larger space in the ribbon make sense). Far from perfect but
> > quite effective.
> >
> > When doing the UI for 4.0 it might be good to add such a feature.
> >
> > Sent from my tablet
> > On Dec 14, 2012 4:37 AM, "Dennis E. Hamilton"  wrote:
> >
> > > I was running the Windows 8 Update advisor on my Windows XP SP3 Tablet
> PC
> > > to see what was incompatible with Windows 8.  (I learned that the
> machine
> > > itself is incompatible - the processor chip does not have NX and
> Windows
> > 8
> > > will not install on it.)
> > >
> > > But the prize, scrolling down the Compatibility List, was this:
> > >
> > > Compatible
> > > ...
> > >
> > > OpenOffice.org 3.4.1
> > > Apache Software Foundation
> > >
> > > Nice.
> > >
> > >  - Dennis
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: OpenOffice 3.4.1 is Compatible with Windows 8

[janI]

Are any of the machines based on windows8 RT ?

I am looking into buying a surface tablet, and would of course love to have
AOO running on it.

Jan.

On 14 December 2012 09:50, Ross Gardler  wrote:

> I use OO on a couple of windows 8 machines (one clean install, one upgrade
> from Win 7). I've experienced no problems.
>
> Touch is a problem, as you would imagine it is for most apps designed for
> Win7. One of the things MS applcations do is provide a "touch" mode. This
> simply puts larger margins around the main interface widgets (all of a
> sudden the larger space in the ribbon make sense). Far from perfect but
> quite effective.
>
> When doing the UI for 4.0 it might be good to add such a feature.
>
> Sent from my tablet
> On Dec 14, 2012 4:37 AM, "Dennis E. Hamilton"  wrote:
>
> > I was running the Windows 8 Update advisor on my Windows XP SP3 Tablet PC
> > to see what was incompatible with Windows 8.  (I learned that the machine
> > itself is incompatible - the processor chip does not have NX and Windows
> 8
> > will not install on it.)
> >
> > But the prize, scrolling down the Compatibility List, was this:
> >
> > Compatible
> > ...
> >
> > OpenOffice.org 3.4.1
> > Apache Software Foundation
> >
> > Nice.
> >
> >  - Dennis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: OpenOffice 3.4.1 is Compatible with Windows 8

[Ross Gardler]

I use OO on a couple of windows 8 machines (one clean install, one upgrade
from Win 7). I've experienced no problems.

Touch is a problem, as you would imagine it is for most apps designed for
Win7. One of the things MS applcations do is provide a "touch" mode. This
simply puts larger margins around the main interface widgets (all of a
sudden the larger space in the ribbon make sense). Far from perfect but
quite effective.

When doing the UI for 4.0 it might be good to add such a feature.

Sent from my tablet
On Dec 14, 2012 4:37 AM, "Dennis E. Hamilton"  wrote:

> I was running the Windows 8 Update advisor on my Windows XP SP3 Tablet PC
> to see what was incompatible with Windows 8.  (I learned that the machine
> itself is incompatible - the processor chip does not have NX and Windows 8
> will not install on it.)
>
> But the prize, scrolling down the Compatibility List, was this:
>
> Compatible
> ...
>
> OpenOffice.org 3.4.1
> Apache Software Foundation
>
> Nice.
>
>  - Dennis
>
>
>
>
>

OpenOffice 3.4.1 is Compatible with Windows 8

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

I was running the Windows 8 Update advisor on my Windows XP SP3 Tablet PC to 
see what was incompatible with Windows 8.  (I learned that the machine itself 
is incompatible - the processor chip does not have NX and Windows 8 will not 
install on it.)

But the prize, scrolling down the Compatibility List, was this:

Compatible
...

OpenOffice.org 3.4.1
Apache Software Foundation

Nice.

 - Dennis