Re: [dev] VCL UI Rework

2008-05-24 Thread Juergen Schmidt
Michael Meeks wrote: Hi Jurgen, On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 10:12 +0200, Juergen Schmidt wrote: whatever we will use in the future it will be important that we will have a GUI editor to make the design of new dialogs much more easier than today. Yep; absolutely - it's in the spec. and we

Re: [dev] VCL UI Rework

2008-05-23 Thread Michael Meeks
On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 13:15 +0200, Christian Lippka wrote: Michael Meeks wrote: There was some resistance to nominating this for 3.0 because ChristianL wanted to re-do the translation work to use Java Properties instead of the new transex tool we wrote that translated complete XML

Re: [dev] VCL UI Rework

2008-05-23 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Jurgen, On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 10:12 +0200, Juergen Schmidt wrote: whatever we will use in the future it will be important that we will have a GUI editor to make the design of new dialogs much more easier than today. Yep; absolutely - it's in the spec. and we have a

Re: [dev] VCL UI Rework

2008-05-23 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
Hi Michael, On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 10:12 +0200, Juergen Schmidt wrote: whatever we will use in the future it will be important that we will have a GUI editor to make the design of new dialogs much more easier than today. Yep; absolutely - it's in the spec. and we have a

Re: [dev] VCL UI Rework

2008-05-21 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Stephan Bergmann writes: Just kidding, you folks, I assume. I understand that reverting this is not an option. With this new breakage however, there is no obvious and simple place to share the latest development efforts and to get others involved. These are in a GIT archive based on

Re: [dev] VCL UI Rework

2008-05-16 Thread Juergen Schmidt
Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg wrote: Hi Michael, Michael Meeks wrote: Hi Kay, On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 14:29 +0200, Kay Ramme wrote: Is there somewhere some more docu regarding the XML etc., e.g what are the dialogs you plan to convert first ... or is it all use the source Luke? Not

Re: [dev] VCL UI Rework

2008-05-15 Thread Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg
Hi Eric, eric.bachard wrote: FYI, after what I have seen during GoOOCon (Prague), I decided to test layoutdialogs cws on Mac OS X and so far it looks promising. (only tested zoom and another dialog box though ) Good to hear, so it seems I have to take a look myself as well :-) The other

Re: [dev] VCL UI Rework

2008-05-15 Thread Jörg Wartenberg
Hi Kay, What I hear is, that many users and developers seem to be unsatisfied with OOo's GUI respectively with it's progress, some even seem to be disappointed with OOo 3 because of that. What I see is, that others (XAML, XUL, ...) are in principal heading for a scalable approach (not pixel

Re: [dev] VCL UI Rework

2008-05-15 Thread Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg
Hi Jörg, Jörg Wartenberg wrote: For me an other aspect of the user interface is much much more important, consistency of the UI over the whole office and with the operating system. Some of which is simpler while other parts are more difficult, but lets see ... If you look today on the user

Re: [dev] VCL UI Rework

2008-05-15 Thread Stephan Bergmann
Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: Michael Meeks writes: So - in summary; it's going quite nicely - though Jan is away for a bit: and wrt. helping out - perhaps the most useful thing would be to unwind the UNO*3.0* nightmare in the CWS so that toolkit/workben/layout 's 'test' binary will run

Re: [dev] VCL UI Rework

2008-05-14 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Kay, On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 11:42 +0200, Kay Ramme wrote: does anybody know what the state and plans regarding the VCL UI Rework (see http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/VCL_UI_Rework) project are? As we need to do something to improve our GUI, this seems to be a good step into the

Re: [dev] VCL UI Rework

2008-05-14 Thread Christian Lippka - Sun Microsystems Germany
Michael Meeks wrote: There was some resistance to nominating this for 3.0 because ChristianL wanted to re-do the translation work to use Java Properties instead of the new transex tool we wrote that translated complete XML files per-lang. This is bogus, I discussed with Jan that in my

Re: [dev] VCL UI Rework

2008-05-14 Thread Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany
There was some resistance to nominating this for 3.0 because ChristianL wanted to re-do the translation work to use Java Properties instead of the new transex tool we wrote that translated complete XML files per-lang. This is bogus, I discussed with Jan that in my opinion it is a

Re: [dev] VCL UI Rework

2008-05-14 Thread eric.bachard
Hi Kay, Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg a écrit : Hi, does anybody know what the state and plans regarding the VCL UI Rework (see http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/VCL_UI_Rework) project are? As we need to do something to improve our GUI, this seems to be a good step into the right