On 10/18/2012 05:04 AM, sly (sylvain letuffe) wrote:
I do, but as you said, alone isn't gone be an easy task, that's why I'll soon
be proposing this on talk, with the hope to get the help of everyone. I have
just no ideas if something usefull could get out of this, if that won't just
turn to
On jeudi 18 octobre 2012, Paweł Paprota wrote:
It's great that you are driving this. One potential use of such list
would be defining the Top Ten Tasks list.
A list with that name allready exists, therefore I don't want to say that this
list would define the TTT
However, any admin is of
On 10/17/2012 09:04 PM, sly (sylvain letuffe) wrote:
However, it is not limited anymore to what people think should go into the
next API 0.7 version (I think it's even worse when you ask non-techies people
to find a solution themself) but to something gathering ideas of wishes they
find usefull
On jeudi 18 octobre 2012, Kai Krueger wrote:
I would suggest putting it on help.openstreetmap.org rather than on the
wiki.
For sure, a wiki for voting purpose is to be classified as one of the worst
tool to do it, but it was easy to copy the first wishes from the same syntax.
Using help
On 18 October 2012 16:27, Kai Krueger kakrue...@gmail.com wrote:
I would suggest putting it on help.openstreetmap.org rather than on the
wiki. I know that is a bit of an abuse of help, but the builtin voting
system and reordering according to votes can be useful to help filter the
list of
Sweet - I think such a list is great and useful for further informing
priorities in OSM. I'd love to see this framed larger than the Knight funded
work though. I am really worried about expectations. OpenStreetMap won't cover
larger improvement needs with 500+k, OpenStreetMap need a lot more
Le mardi 16 octobre 2012 14:29:08, Paweł Paprota a écrit :
I think this would be A LOT of work and probably not for only one person
but I for one would love to see end-users more involved during
development phase - testing, feedback, incremental improvements and all
that.
So the question
Hi
Am 12.10.2012 16:14, schrieb Serge Wroclawski: I made a second issue at
the same time regarding gathering histrorical
data around way geometry. Right now, due to the way OSM stores its
geometry data, the only way to know about a way's geometry history is
to call the history call for the
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012, at 01:03, sly (sylvain letuffe) wrote:
If you propose to change it by creating a community-driven
(instead of admin-driven as you put it) wishlist, by any means - do
it. The operative word being do.
I'll be glad to do so, and will start it. Unless the MapBox team
On vendredi 12 octobre 2012, Tom MacWright wrote:
Hey all (or, well, those subscribed to dev@ - my flamewar shields are at
50% so I'm not risking an email to talk),
This only is my opinion, but wishlists shouldn't be reduced to those
subscribed to dev@
Maybe start on dev, but I think a wiki
Hey Sly,
This only is my opinion, but wishlists shouldn't be reduced to those
subscribed to dev@
Maybe start on dev, but I think a wiki page should better be suited for a
summary of the ~3/5 tasks to focus on.
Yes and no. Everything is a trade between being totally open (announce it
on IRC and
On lundi 15 octobre 2012, Tom MacWright wrote:
Hey Sly,
Hi tom,
Yes and no. Everything is a trade between being totally open (announce it
on IRC and see what the crowd thinks!) and being totally productive (hole
up and just do it until you're done and then realize it's duplicated
effort).
top ten tasks is These are the Top Ten Tasks that the OSM System
Administrators
What about the community ? This only is a todo list by the admins, for
the
admins coded by the admins. So far so good, but that's not a wishlist,
or, at
least, not a wishlist of the community.
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 18:13 +0200, Paweł Paprota wrote:
top ten tasks is These are the Top Ten Tasks that the OSM System
Administrators
What about the community ? This only is a todo list by the admins, for
the
admins coded by the admins. So far so good, but that's not a wishlist,
I'd love to get back to the topic of what's next.
At least my at-the-moment thought for why dev@ has been more efficient than
the mailing list is something pretty simple: when people post on here with
some bit of knowledge - like saying that something is already implemented,
or that there are
Le lundi 15 octobre 2012 18:13:34, Paweł Paprota a écrit :
- people who do the actual programming work choose what they want to
work on.
I think this is a little different here (this thread) than usually is (even
with what usually happen with OSM core development)
Tom started this thread
Hey Sly,
The simple answer is that MapBox (including myself) is finding ways to
improve OpenStreetMap.
Some of these are pretty obvious (design!), and some of them require a very
high level of knowledge (API changes). By posting here, I'm trying to get a
good idea of what exists, what experts
the page says: These are the Top Ten Tasks that the OSM System
Administrators would really like your development help on. so i think
it's unfair to say it's a list by the admins, for the admins.
I admit I was unfair. I shortcuted it too much.
But still, that's a list by the admins. But I
Hey sly -
I'm very interested in people weighing in on a wishlist thread like that
because it's super useful for understanding the problem space around improving
OSM in the areas editors, social experience, data export better.
In the end of the day, just like you or anyone else Tom and I and
Hi,
That said, let's talk less about talking and your personal suspicions and
more about actual substance;
Is that substance :
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/API_v0.7
?
aka un-derail this thread.
Got it, sorry.
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On Oct 15, 2012, at 7:40 PM, sly (sylvain letuffe) li...@letuffe.org wrote:
Hi,
That said, let's talk less about talking and your personal suspicions and
more about actual substance;
Is that substance :
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/API_v0.7
I'd say it is!
?
aka un-derail this
On 16/10/12 00:40, sly (sylvain letuffe) wrote:
That said, let's talk less about talking and your personal suspicions and
more about actual substance;
Is that substance :
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/API_v0.7
?
Well the problem with that page is that there are a huge number of
things
On 12-Oct-12, at 3:50 PM, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote:
Also.
ogr3osm.
I would love to have the time and resources (or paid time,
nudgenudgewinkwink)
to redo ogr2osm; adding a backtracking-like algorithm to minimise
the amount
of geometries' shared nodes (and their bounding boxes) in
On Sunday, 14 de October de 2012 10:05:31 Paul Norman escribió:
I'm giving a talk tomorrow on ogr2osm [...] For a 600 MB .mdb (400 MB .shp)
[...] it uses about 6-7 gigs of ram for that. I may be able to get that down
substantially, I haven't really attacked the RAM usage yet.
Well, that's
On 14-Oct-12, at 5:31 AM, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote:
On Sunday, 14 de October de 2012 10:05:31 Paul Norman escribió:
I'm giving a talk tomorrow on ogr2osm [...] For a 600 MB .mdb (400
MB .shp)
[...] it uses about 6-7 gigs of ram for that. I may be able to get
that down
substantially, I
Am 12.10.2012 01:58, schrieb Tom MacWright:
What are the tasks which everyone agrees on, but nobody has had the
time to tackle?
there is still a lot of information missing to compete with commercial
data for (car) navigation system (e.g. from Navteq and Tele-Atlas):
* have house
Imagine there is list of schools in a city.
This list is maintained by a school district office with updated website,
phone numbers, and office opening times.
They maintain this list through a simple PHP form on their website that
allows them to make updates to each listing (node).
If
Hi,
On 10/12/2012 02:14 AM, Andy Allan wrote:
As for all-new things,
I'd like to explore how to integrate all the various QA feeds into a
combined overview, rather than having to hunt around different sites.
That would be a great thing to have, and one that has been eluding us
for quite a
On 12.10.2012 01:58, Tom MacWright wrote:
What do you want to see happen with OSM's software this year? What are
the tasks which everyone agrees on, but nobody has had the time to tackle?
There are some ideas around but I'm still missing a tool that can
graphically show the diffs on an
On Fri, 12 Oct 2012, Andy Allan wrote:
On 12 October 2012 00:58, Tom MacWright t...@macwright.org wrote:
What do you want to see happen with OSM's software this year? What are the
tasks which everyone agrees on, but nobody has had the time to tackle?
snip
As for all-new things, I'd like
Hi,
On 10/12/2012 12:08 PM, Derick Rethans wrote:
And there are so many of those - both global and local! In addition, I
would like to see something new here too. It was up as a project for
Google Summer of Code, but the project fell through. The idea was to
create an engine that can flag
On 10/12/2012 3:27 AM, Stephan Knauss wrote:
So I want a tool that makes it possible to do a quality control by
checking diffs like it's possible in wikipedia for years. The problem is
that our data is a lot harder to diff.
+1 for a wishlist: visual changeset diff?
Okay, so visual changeset tools, better history tools, and osmbugs.
OSMBugs or something like it will definitely get some love - early on we've
just been battling confusion about wtf OSMBugs is, with all of the
versions. That's mostly cleared up now.
Anything else?
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:25
Okay, so visual changeset tools, better history tools, and osmbugs.
OSMBugs or something like it will definitely get some love - early on
we've
just been battling confusion about wtf OSMBugs is, with all of the
versions. That's mostly cleared up now.
Anything else?
Have you read my
@Pawel: totally, I think those are awesome. I was mostly prodding this
thread since it was getting into the details of changeset/history
improvements and don't want it to be laser-focused on the technical details
of one thing :)
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Paweł Paprota ppa...@fastmail.fm
On 12/10/12 00:58, Tom MacWright wrote:
So, along with the big 'kicking off' blog post on MapBox[1], I posted
three basic issues in the openstreetmap-website tracker - JSON support,
filtering on the main api, and a tag api.
The three of these were closed by Tom Hughes, which is fine - they
On Friday 12 October 2012, Tom MacWright wrote:
Hey all (or, well, those subscribed to dev@ - my flamewar shields are at
50% so I'm not risking an email to talk),
So, along with the big 'kicking off' blog post on MapBox[1], I posted three
basic issues in the openstreetmap-website tracker -
Building such a meta
platform is not an easy task because bugs are much more than just
popup markers on the map - bugs can also be a way, or a collection of
ways, or a convex hull around a broken polygon; a good platform will
also allow the user to flag those bugs which are false
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote:
That's not strictly accurate - the JSON API one did not get closed.
That's true, but my two bugs did get closed.
More on this below.
Personally I'm not a fan of using bug trackers for things that aren't either
actual bugs,
On 12/10/12 15:14, Serge Wroclawski wrote:
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote:
That's not strictly accurate - the JSON API one did not get closed.
That's true, but my two bugs did get closed.
In case you haven't noticed they have been reopened now.
More on
From: Frederik Ramm [mailto:frede...@remote.org]
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 3:21 AM
To: dev@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] OSM Wishlist
Hi,
On 10/12/2012 12:08 PM, Derick Rethans wrote:
And there are so many of those - both global and local! In addition, I
would like
Serge Wroclawski writes:
This is expensive.
does this matter? Is there a requirement to have it running against the
latest r/w api?
I fetch my osm data for editing from the osm ro-mirror (overpass). This is
a lot faster than waiting for main API. Works fine as well.
Why not add another (or
On Oct 12, 2012 10:24 AM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote:
On 12/10/12 15:14, Serge Wroclawski wrote:
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote:
That's true, but my two bugs did get closed.
In case you haven't noticed they have been reopened now.
Hadn't noticed
On 12.10.2012 01:58, Tom MacWright wrote:
What do you want to see happen with OSM's software this year? What are
the tasks which everyone agrees on, but nobody has had the time to tackle?
reading some of the answers it also seems that appropriate server
hardware is an issue for many of the
On Viernes, 12 de octubre de 2012 01:58:23 Tom MacWright escribió:
What do you want to see happen with OSM's software this year? What are the
tasks which everyone agrees on, but nobody has had the time to tackle?
OK, here's mine:
A diff/patch tool for imported data.
Let me explain.
Assume
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Iván Sánchez Ortega
i...@sanchezortega.es wrote:
A diff/patch tool for imported data.
opengeo presented at SOTM about their plans for geogit [1]. from
what i understood one of their aims is interoperability between
separately-maintained OGC model datasets and
Imagine there is list of schools in a city.
This list is maintained by a school district office with updated website,
phone numbers, and office opening times.
They maintain this list through a simple PHP form on their website that
allows them to make updates to each listing (node).
If any node
Hey all (or, well, those subscribed to dev@ - my flamewar shields are at
50% so I'm not risking an email to talk),
So, along with the big 'kicking off' blog post on MapBox[1], I posted three
basic issues in the openstreetmap-website tracker - JSON support, filtering
on the main api, and a tag
On 12 October 2012 00:58, Tom MacWright t...@macwright.org wrote:
Hey all (or, well, those subscribed to dev@ - my flamewar shields are at 50%
so I'm not risking an email to talk),
Bear in mind that technical (generally software) stuff is often better
on dev@ anyway - and there's lots of
Hey,
I haven't seen anything specifically rulling it out, but would I be right
in saying that mapbox don't have plans to contribute to P2?
No current plans, though that's more for lack of any experience in Flash
Flex than anything set in stone or technical. Given that we currently don't
plan
Hi Tom,
So, along with the big 'kicking off' blog post on MapBox[1], I posted
three
basic issues in the openstreetmap-website tracker - JSON support,
filtering
on the main api, and a tag api.
I think these are important, but there are far more important things.
And also, these issues seem
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:14 AM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote:
Does discussing
new ideas on github bring advantages over mailing lists that I'm
missing? It's not something that I'm used to.
github is pretty good for discussions, it integrates into mails.
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