[OSM-dev] JSON-Decoding-Bug in Nominatim

2009-12-23 Thread Peter Körner
Hi

Ich habe lese mit PHP Daten von der nominatim API via JSON. Das Query
http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/?q=Stadeformat=json
gibt mir ua. folgende Property aus:

display_name:Stade, Avenue de Barbe d\'Or, Mont-de-Marsan, Landes, 
Station Total, Aquitaine, Frankreich

das \' führt dabei auf einen  PHP 5.3.1 / Win32 zu einem Syntax-Fehler, 
mit einem ' funktioniert es. Ich schätze, dass das \' hier überflüssig 
ist und entfernt werden kannt, schließe jedoch einen Bug in json_decode 
nicht aus.

Lg, Peter

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Re: [OSM-dev] JSON-Decoding-Bug in Nominatim

2009-12-23 Thread Brian Quinion
 Ich habe lese mit PHP Daten von der nominatim API via JSON. Das Query
 http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/?q=Stadeformat=json
 gibt mir ua. folgende Property aus:

 display_name:Stade, Avenue de Barbe d\'Or, Mont-de-Marsan, Landes,
 Station Total, Aquitaine, Frankreich

See if that works for you now.

BTW - on a related note I've just added various extra JSON(P) options
to Nominatim.  Documentation here
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim

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Re: [OSM-dev] JSON-Decoding-Bug in Nominatim

2009-12-23 Thread Peter Körner
  See if that works for you now.

Looks fine, thanks!

Peter

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Re: [OSM-dev] Mapnik Stylesheets

2009-12-23 Thread Quy phan

Hey guys!
Some styles would be great... espeically for the planet.osm stuff,
So if some users can share some of their styles for the planet.osm that would 
be awesome!

Thank you

Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:40:40 -0600
From: gos...@gmail.com
To: dev@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [OSM-dev] Mapnik Stylesheets

Are there other stylesheets available besides the osm.xml file that is included 
with Mapnik?  I would think some people would be willing to share their work if 
they went to all the trouble of defining a uniques style.  I've seen the style 
editor at cloudmade, but as far as I can tell it only works with their tile 
server.

Ideally I would like to serve up some NoName tiles and something similar to the 
Midnight Commander at cloudmade.  I managed to get Mapnik and mod_tile serving 
tiles on my own server, but seem to be limited to the standard style or 
re-inventing stylesheets that would fit my need.

Am I missing a resource for sharing stylesheets?
Thanks,
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[OSM-dev] Configurable number of results in Nominatim ?

2009-12-23 Thread Thomas Petazzoni
Hello,

We are using Nominatim for the new version of MapOSMatic, through the
XML format exported by Nominatim. Nominatim is a *very* useful tool for
MapOSMatic, so thanks a lot to the authors.

However, the current version of Nominatim limits the number of results
to 10. While this makes perfect sense for the Web application, it isn't
really pratical for the XML export.

Is it possible to add support for a limit=XX argument, where XX is the
number of results required, with 0 being a special value removing the
limit ?

Thanks a lot,

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Re: [OSM-dev] Mapnik Stylesheets

2009-12-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi,

Greg Oseid wrote:
 Are there other stylesheets available besides the osm.xml file that is 
 included with Mapnik?  

I think there's a lot of people who have made their own style sheets and 
who would be willing to share, it's just that we have not agreed on a 
standard way. We should really have some kind of platform where people 
can upload their styles and others can build their own variants. Could 
the OSM wiki be used for that, or would it be a case for put stylesheet 
in SVN and make an illustrated Wiki page documenting it?

One difficulty is that stylesheets are often keyed to a specific 
osm2pgsql conversion style as well.

Bye
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Re: [OSM-dev] Mapnik Stylesheets

2009-12-23 Thread Nop

Hi!

Am 23.12.2009 02:40, schrieb Greg Oseid:
 Are there other stylesheets available besides the osm.xml file that is
 included with Mapnik?  I would think some people would be willing to
 share their work if they went to all the trouble of defining a uniques
 style.

You are right, I am one of those people with a completely different 
style sheet. But it is not intended for a raw planet file, has it's own 
import style and preprocessing and does do some things differently, so I 
figured that it would make no sense to just publish it without a 
concrete request.

bye
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Re: [OSM-dev] Mapnik Stylesheets

2009-12-23 Thread Matthias Julius
Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org writes:

 Hi,

 Greg Oseid wrote:
 Are there other stylesheets available besides the osm.xml file that is 
 included with Mapnik?  

 I think there's a lot of people who have made their own style sheets and 
 who would be willing to share, it's just that we have not agreed on a 
 standard way. We should really have some kind of platform where people 
 can upload their styles and others can build their own variants. Could 
 the OSM wiki be used for that, or would it be a case for put stylesheet 
 in SVN and make an illustrated Wiki page documenting it?

One problem with mapnik stylesheets is that they are a chore to work
with.  Anyone up to implementing a (graphical) stylesheet generator?

Matthias

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Re: [OSM-dev] Mapnik Stylesheets

2009-12-23 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 23.12.2009 23:14, schrieb Matthias Julius:
 Frederik Rammfrede...@remote.org  writes:

 Hi,

 Greg Oseid wrote:
 Are there other stylesheets available besides the osm.xml file that is
 included with Mapnik?

 I think there's a lot of people who have made their own style sheets and
 who would be willing to share, it's just that we have not agreed on a
 standard way. We should really have some kind of platform where people
 can upload their styles and others can build their own variants. Could
 the OSM wiki be used for that, or would it be a case for put stylesheet
 in SVN and make an illustrated Wiki page documenting it?

 One problem with mapnik stylesheets is that they are a chore to work
 with.  Anyone up to implementing a (graphical) stylesheet generator?

To be able to write a stylesheet generator, it will be extremely helpful 
to have more than one stylesheet example to get an idea of what people 
are actually doing with the stylesheets :-)

Regards, ULFL

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Re: [OSM-dev] Mapnik Stylesheets

2009-12-23 Thread Matthias Julius
Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com writes:

 Am 23.12.2009 23:14, schrieb Matthias Julius:
 Frederik Rammfrede...@remote.org  writes:

 Hi,

 Greg Oseid wrote:
 Are there other stylesheets available besides the osm.xml file that is
 included with Mapnik?

 I think there's a lot of people who have made their own style sheets and
 who would be willing to share, it's just that we have not agreed on a
 standard way. We should really have some kind of platform where people
 can upload their styles and others can build their own variants. Could
 the OSM wiki be used for that, or would it be a case for put stylesheet
 in SVN and make an illustrated Wiki page documenting it?

 One problem with mapnik stylesheets is that they are a chore to work
 with.  Anyone up to implementing a (graphical) stylesheet generator?

 To be able to write a stylesheet generator, it will be extremely helpful 
 to have more than one stylesheet example to get an idea of what people 
 are actually doing with the stylesheets :-)

Do you need example texts to be able to write a text editor? ;-)

Matthias

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Re: [OSM-dev] Mapnik Stylesheets

2009-12-23 Thread Shaun McDonald

On 23 Dec 2009, at 22:14, Matthias Julius wrote:

 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org writes:
 
 Hi,
 
 Greg Oseid wrote:
 Are there other stylesheets available besides the osm.xml file that is 
 included with Mapnik?  
 
 I think there's a lot of people who have made their own style sheets and 
 who would be willing to share, it's just that we have not agreed on a 
 standard way. We should really have some kind of platform where people 
 can upload their styles and others can build their own variants. Could 
 the OSM wiki be used for that, or would it be a case for put stylesheet 
 in SVN and make an illustrated Wiki page documenting it?
 
 One problem with mapnik stylesheets is that they are a chore to work
 with.  Anyone up to implementing a (graphical) stylesheet generator?
 

That's effectively what the CloudMade style editor does, just you can't access 
the style sheet and host it yourself.

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Re: [OSM-dev] Mapnik Stylesheets

2009-12-23 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 24.12.2009 00:04, schrieb Matthias Julius:
 Ulf Lampingulf.lamp...@googlemail.com  writes:

 Am 23.12.2009 23:14, schrieb Matthias Julius:
 Frederik Rammfrede...@remote.org   writes:

 Hi,

 Greg Oseid wrote:
 Are there other stylesheets available besides the osm.xml file that is
 included with Mapnik?

 I think there's a lot of people who have made their own style sheets and
 who would be willing to share, it's just that we have not agreed on a
 standard way. We should really have some kind of platform where people
 can upload their styles and others can build their own variants. Could
 the OSM wiki be used for that, or would it be a case for put stylesheet
 in SVN and make an illustrated Wiki page documenting it?

 One problem with mapnik stylesheets is that they are a chore to work
 with.  Anyone up to implementing a (graphical) stylesheet generator?

 To be able to write a stylesheet generator, it will be extremely helpful
 to have more than one stylesheet example to get an idea of what people
 are actually doing with the stylesheets :-)

 Do you need example texts to be able to write a text editor? ;-)

Yes, you need example texts to be able to write a text editor! ;-)

Regards, ULFL

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[OSM-dev] [ANN] Parsing Library for OSM

2009-12-23 Thread Tony Morris
A library for parsing OpenStreetMap files using HXT into data structures.

http://code.google.com/p/geo-osm/
http://hackage.haskell.org/package/OSM

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Re: [OSM-dev] [ANN] Parsing Library for OSM

2009-12-23 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
Nice!
any figures on performance?

On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 12:49 AM, Tony Morris tonymor...@gmail.com wrote:
 A library for parsing OpenStreetMap files using HXT into data structures.

 http://code.google.com/p/geo-osm/
 http://hackage.haskell.org/package/OSM

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Re: [OSM-dev] [ANN] Parsing Library for OSM

2009-12-23 Thread Tony Morris
Not yet. I ran in through a 4GB file and it didn't die, but that's all
I've done so far :)

jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Nice!
 any figures on performance?

 On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 12:49 AM, Tony Morris tonymor...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 A library for parsing OpenStreetMap files using HXT into data structures.

 http://code.google.com/p/geo-osm/
 http://hackage.haskell.org/package/OSM

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Re: [OSM-dev] Mapnik Stylesheets

2009-12-23 Thread Matthias Julius
Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk writes:

 On 23 Dec 2009, at 22:14, Matthias Julius wrote:

  One problem with mapnik stylesheets is that they are a chore to
 work with.  Anyone up to implementing a (graphical) stylesheet
 generator?
 

 That's effectively what the CloudMade style editor does, just you
 can't access the style sheet and host it yourself.

Isn't that then a small step to offer a download option for the
generated stylesheet?

Of course, this is only useful if one uses CM's database schema.

Matthias

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Re: [josm-dev] Login at josm.openstreetmap.de fails

2009-12-23 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009, Sebastian Klein wrote:

 By the way: I can only use https, when I'm logged in on trac. Would it
 be possible get it to work with plain http? This way it is faster and I
 need not accept the invalid certificate all the time... :)

You can remove the s form https after login (which means plaintext 
data transfer!). I wont change login to http, but its already planned to 
have a valid certificate (hoping Fossgis pays for it).

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Re: [josm-dev] Login at josm.openstreetmap.de fails

2009-12-23 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009, Karl Guggisberg wrote:

 Currently, it's not possible to login to http://josm.openstreetmap.de.
 Here's what trac says:
...
 Could somebody with server access please have a look?

Seems that had another reason. Should work again now. The question is why 
it failed now and worked before. Sometimes the webserver configuration is 
more than a miracle to me.

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[josm-dev] Reversing of node tags

2009-12-23 Thread Matthias Julius
I am currently pondering about http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/4149

(JOSM is producing an exception when the reversal of a way that
included reversing of a tag is undone.  This is because the tag
correction is done on a intermediate way which does not belong to a
dataset and when undoing this JOSM tries to look up the nodes from the
node ids in the WayData.)

While looking a the code I noticed that JOSM is looking at all the way
nodes for reversible tags.  Does it even make sense to have nodes with
direction dependent tags?  I doubt that.  This is ambiguous when more
than one way uses that node (and JOSM does not check for this when
reversing the tags).

If there are no objections I will remove that from the code.

Matthias

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Re: [josm-dev] Reversing of node tags

2009-12-23 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2009-12-23 13:57, Matthias Julius wrote:
...
While looking a the code I noticed that JOSM is looking at all the way
nodes for reversible tags.  Does it even make sense to have nodes with
direction dependent tags?  I doubt that.

I agree. The idea of direction implies a line (at least two points).


If there are no objections I will remove that from the code.

While you're at it, if it's simple, it would be nice if it did not bring up 
the Automatic tag correction dialog if there is no difference between any 
of the new value and old value fields. This is common in the case of 
reversing a way that is not oneway, where the tiger:zip_left and 
tiger_zip:right values are the same.

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Re: [josm-dev] Reversing of node tags

2009-12-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi,

Matthias Julius wrote:
 While looking a the code I noticed that JOSM is looking at all the way
 nodes for reversible tags.  Does it even make sense to have nodes with
 direction dependent tags?  I doubt that.  This is ambiguous when more
 than one way uses that node (and JOSM does not check for this when
 reversing the tags).

Hm. There is for example highway=incline and highway=incline_steep, 
used more than 1600 times nodes in Germany alone. They usually come in 
tandem with incline=xx% which would have to be turned into 
incline=-xx% when the way is reversed.

You are right in saying that this is ambiguous in theory. In practice, 
of roughly 1650 occurrences in Germany, 1441 were used by only one way; 
167 were used by two ways (every case I checked was simply where one way 
ended and another began), and 34 were used by more than 2 ways (the most 
adventurous one being http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/302422098 
but this looks like someone has misunderstood something). The remaining 
ones were not used by any way.

I don't even known if JOSM handles this correctly at the moment, but if 
it does then it should perhaps not be broken?

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Re: [josm-dev] Reversing of node tags

2009-12-23 Thread Matthias Julius
Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net writes:

 While you're at it, if it's simple, it would be nice if it did not bring up 
 the Automatic tag correction dialog if there is no difference between any 
 of the new value and old value fields. This is common in the case of 
 reversing a way that is not oneway, where the tiger:zip_left and 
 tiger_zip:right values are the same.

I'll see what I can do.

Matthias

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Re: [josm-dev] Reversing of node tags

2009-12-23 Thread Matthias Julius
Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org writes:

 Hm. There is for example highway=incline and highway=incline_steep, 
 used more than 1600 times nodes in Germany alone. They usually come in 
 tandem with incline=xx% which would have to be turned into 
 incline=-xx% when the way is reversed.

I would consider those tags on nodes as broken.  These should all be
way tags.  I would propose to change Map Features in this respect and
have the JOSM Validator, Maplint  Co. put warnings on nodes where
they exist.  An incline that fits into a node is either so low that
it is not worth tagging at all or is so steep that it should better be
tagged as cliff. ;-)

Actually highway=incline[_steep] should be discouraged alltogether.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:incline mentions incline=up and
incline=down for cases when the exact value is not known.  Also,
inline=* can be used for other things beside highways.


 You are right in saying that this is ambiguous in theory. In practice, 
 of roughly 1650 occurrences in Germany, 1441 were used by only one way; 
 167 were used by two ways (every case I checked was simply where one way 
 ended and another began), and 34 were used by more than 2 ways (the most 
 adventurous one being http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/302422098 
 but this looks like someone has misunderstood something). The remaining 
 ones were not used by any way.

Even in the case where the node simply connects two ways there is a
problem if one of them gets reversed.


 I don't even known if JOSM handles this correctly at the moment, but if 
 it does then it should perhaps not be broken?

JOSM currently looks for left/right, forward/backward,
forwards/backwards and oneway tags, values and relation roles.

There is no reversal for highway=incline.  All JOSM could do is put
out a warning.

It certainly makes sense to include incline=* - most of which are on
ways anyway (according to OSMdoc).

Matthias

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Re: [josm-dev] Reversing of node tags

2009-12-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi,

Matthias Julius wrote:
 Even in the case where the node simply connects two ways there is a
 problem if one of them gets reversed.

Yes; the node formerly tagged incline would then become either a 
summit or a valley ;-)

I think people are currently more or less putting the node in the place 
where a typical cyclist's map would have a  or  symbol.

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