Re: [OSM-dev] (gosmore:25678): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:

2011-12-23 Thread Nic Roets
Hello Anwar, Gosmore will not connect to the display if the QUERY_STRING environment variable was set. For example: unset DISPLAY QUERY_STRING="flat=52.396545&flon=4.915714&tlat=52.373075&tlon=4.901638&fast=0&v=motorcar" ./gosmore Yield on my computer: Content-Type: text/plain No route found

Re: [OSM-dev] map disappear on YourS local installation

2011-12-23 Thread Nic Roets
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Anwar Azulfa wrote: > i have checkout from > http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/routing/yours/branches/version-1.0-via > > now, map is appear. but when i try to make routing, i get error again > > > this is step which i did : > > 1. i following reference fr

Re: [OSM-dev] Something wrong with the renderer?

2011-05-06 Thread Nic Roets
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Igor Brejc wrote: > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 6:33 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer > wrote: >> >> 2011/5/5 Grant Slater : >> >> What about changing the tile urls frequently? This could be automated >> and synchronized with the start page and would stop those apps quite >> fas

Re: [OSM-dev] Some advice for a new OSM client

2011-04-08 Thread Nic Roets
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > It still amazes me how many app developers have made the functioning of > their paid-for app entirely dependent on what someone (OSM) decides to do > with a third-party server. Clearly some developers think about it at all. But some devel

Re: [OSM-dev] Develop a Simple Mapping Tool for Mobile Phones

2011-03-24 Thread Nic Roets
it may be sufficient to assume the Earth is flat after applying the equirectangular projection. > > Greets, > Yarik > > > On Wed, 2011-03-23 at 20:22 +0200, Nic Roets wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Yarik >> wrote: >> > Hi Nic! >> > >>

Re: [OSM-dev] Develop a Simple Mapping Tool for Mobile Phones

2011-03-23 Thread Nic Roets
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Yarik wrote: > Hi Nic! > >        Great to hear! I has been thinking of building a tool like that >        for quite a long time already with slightly different >        functionality than you describe but still very similar. I wrote >        already that I worked

Re: [OSM-dev] Develop a Simple Mapping Tool for Mobile Phones

2011-03-23 Thread Nic Roets
Hello Yarik, I think an application that allows the user to take photos and records the position, azimuth and elevation angle will definitely be useful. It will allow people to anonymously contribute bug reports without typing anything. You can always start with the app and hope that other people

Re: [OSM-dev] [GSoC] Video based speed limit detector

2011-03-21 Thread Nic Roets
Personally I think that any tool that can process a video recording in a reasonable amount of time and detect most street signs will be a significant accomplishment. Even if it does not integrate with an editor. Let's suppose your video stream is of high quality and the lighting conditions are goo

Re: [OSM-dev] Newbie questions, introductions and questions about Mac/Objective-C based mapping/Map View using openstreetmap...

2011-03-10 Thread Nic Roets
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > It can do routing and is generally wondrous. Much much more potential than > pratting around with X11 and Gosmore. I seriously doubt that that was what Frederik had in mind. A lot of developers use Gosmore only as a routing engine and

Re: [OSM-dev] Community standards for writing editors

2011-03-10 Thread Nic Roets
Hello Andrew, So far we found that crappy editors loose popularity. For example, Potlatch would not warn users that the two ways they are merging have two different names. Then some would call for it to be banned. Then they would incorporate the good features of Potlatch (e.g. Y! imagery) into oth

Re: [OSM-dev] OSM formats optimised for client-side vector rendering?

2011-02-17 Thread Nic Roets
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Tim Teulings wrote: > There is always a > trade of :-/ Absolutely. I think Nick refers to mobile users, in which case the tradeoffs are (a) the time of the user (b) mobile bandwidth (c) processing power, i.e. must the user buy a faster phone to run the app (d) RAM

Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] Nominatim updates

2011-01-28 Thread Nic Roets
For me, reverse lookups are completely wrong right now. (I haven't tried forward lookups). And the status indication on nominatim.openstreetmap.org is blank. So I figure he's doing a DB rebuild or something. http://osm.org/?lat=-25.797306&lon=28.289618&zoom=18

Re: [OSM-dev] Can't login to https://trac.openstreetmap.org/login

2011-01-18 Thread Nic Roets
Hello MartinZ I had the same problem with trac.openstreetmap.org a couple of years ago. I have no idea who changed what, but eventually it just started working. If you have a secondary email address, register it with osm.org and try again ? Regards, Nic On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Martin Ž

Re: [OSM-dev] scaling

2011-01-10 Thread Nic Roets
I'm not the one funding the hardware nor handing out the bounties, BUT I would like to see a little bit more accounting / budgeting, as in : 1. The current hardware costs $X and can serve Y million map queries per year, 2. A XAPI server costs ... and can serve ... million map queries per year, 3. W

Re: [OSM-dev] scaling

2011-01-09 Thread Nic Roets
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:43 AM, SteveC wrote: > What you're effectively saying is move certain things to something that looks > like xapi? Yes. Note that the rate of edits to the road network is limited to the amount of real world changes to the road network plus a once off catch up amount. Ev

Re: [OSM-dev] scaling

2011-01-09 Thread Nic Roets
Hello Steve, I have ideas for a super fast API mirror with the capability of answering historic queries i.e. contents of bbox l,t,r,b at time h. But it can't be the main server because it ignores changesets and other info. If we moved all the load that is not directly related to editing to such a

Re: [OSM-dev] Splitting the planet into thousands of pieces in one pass.

2010-12-01 Thread Nic Roets
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Scott Crosby wrote: > On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Nic Roets wrote: > > Hello Scott, > > > > How do you keep track of what bboxs each entity belongs to ? > > An Int2ShortMultiMap implemented by composing two underlying > Int

Re: [OSM-dev] Splitting the planet into thousands of pieces in one pass.

2010-12-01 Thread Nic Roets
Hello Scott, How do you keep track of what bboxs each entity belongs to ? I'm not really asking a question, I'm just saying that I found a way to reduce the memory requirement for that considerably. Instead of a bit per bbox per entry, I store only 16 bits or 32 bits per entry. Here is the source

Re: [OSM-dev] New public nominatim service (mapquest)

2010-11-18 Thread Nic Roets
Ontario, Canada, which is the first entry of the list returned by Nominatim. Ideally cities should be listed in decreasing population size. Not a big job considering the data is in the geonames database. On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Wyo wrote: > Nic Roets wrote: > >> I think nomin

Re: [OSM-dev] New public nominatim service (mapquest)

2010-11-17 Thread Nic Roets
I think nominatim is well documented on the wiki. I used it to create the Osm.org routing demo. It queries nominatim using jquery. You can find the source here: http://nroets.dev.openstreetmap.org/ On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Wyo wrote: > Brian Quinion wrote: > >> Mapquest have now create

Re: [OSM-dev] Q regarding export by RoadMap

2010-09-05 Thread Nic Roets
Hello Danny, The Api/0.6 is used by editor software like JOSM because it always has the most up-to-date data. That quality does come at a price though: A big Xeon server with 32GB of RAM and many discs. I'm not sysadmin, but I suspect they are starting to clamp down on non-editors using this valua

Re: [OSM-dev] [Marble-devel] NOTICE: gazetteer.osm.org being retired

2010-09-04 Thread Nic Roets
On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 10:53 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > Nic Roets wrote: >> >> From Wikipedia's experience we know that people are hesitant to >> contribute to anything with a corporate affiliation to it. ("Why >> should I do anything more

Re: [OSM-dev] [Marble-devel] NOTICE: gazetteer.osm.org being retired

2010-09-04 Thread Nic Roets
On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Matt Amos wrote: > are you saying that kernel.org can be unfriendly because the amount of > effort put in by each contributor is higher? Yes. Actually kernel.org is very friendly to there audience (Geeks). I'm thinking of someone like Richard Stallman who does not

Re: [OSM-dev] [Marble-devel] NOTICE: gazetteer.osm.org being retired

2010-09-03 Thread Nic Roets
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > > > You'd want me to spend $12 a day to provide geolocalisation for an > > OSM editor (if you didn't read the thread, I remind you I'm speaking > > of Merkaartor)!!?? > > What sort of craz

Re: [OSM-dev] [Marble-devel] NOTICE: gazetteer.osm.org being retired

2010-09-01 Thread Nic Roets
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Jonathan Bennett < openstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk> wrote: > On 01/09/2010 15:14, Torsten Rahn wrote: > >> And I doubt that OSM contributors >> see openstreetmap.org as a nice limited "Demo Version" of what a true >> Free >> Mapping portal could look like. >> > Actu

Re: [OSM-dev] [Marble-devel] NOTICE: gazetteer.osm.org being retired

2010-09-01 Thread Nic Roets
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Chris Browet wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 17:18, Nic Roets wrote: > >> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Chris Browet wrote: >> >>> >>>> While I'd completely agree in a business world, don't forget we a

Re: [OSM-dev] [Marble-devel] NOTICE: gazetteer.osm.org being retired

2010-09-01 Thread Nic Roets
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Chris Browet wrote: > >> While I'd completely agree in a business world, don't forget we are FLOSS > developers working on software in our free time. > > We don't (at least I don't, and I doubt Marble has) have "a server". OSMF > do. > Just put a big red sticker on

Re: [OSM-dev] NOTICE: gazetteer.osm.org being retired

2010-08-30 Thread Nic Roets
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Matt Amos wrote: > > > Let me just mention to Torsten that you have conflict of interest here: > Your > > employer is such a company. > > not since november - the london development team was let go due to > lack of funding. for the last 9 months my employer is so

Re: [OSM-dev] NOTICE: gazetteer.osm.org being retired

2010-08-30 Thread Nic Roets
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Matt Amos wrote: > > Is there a list available of APIs and services that OSM provides which > are > > considered "enterprise ready"? In terms of "enterprise ready" I'd expect > a > > few commitments to be made, most importantly: > > i don't think any of the serv

Re: [OSM-dev] Gosmore routing engine

2010-08-16 Thread Nic Roets
Hello Leonardo, For the routing demo I fixed a lot of bugs in the yours code. You can find the latest code as a tgz file below. The only 'hidden' file is gosmore.php. http://nroets.dev.openstreetmap.org/ There are still a few things I want to fix before checking it into SVN. The gosmore CGI inte

Re: [OSM-dev] robots.txt

2010-08-15 Thread Nic Roets
Hello Anthony, AFAIK, robots.txt only applies to recursive downloads. Given that file names follow simple patterns and timestamp files exist, it is really not necessary to run recursive spiders. That said, wget and curl can be told to ignore robots.txt. Regards, Nic On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 6:39

Re: [OSM-dev] North America gone in geofabrik and tagwatch

2010-07-13 Thread Nic Roets
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Mike N. wrote: >  Routing: http://www.openrouteservice.org/ - includes a workable pedestrian > routing.   But eventually routing may arrive on the main OpenStreetMap > server. Note that for routing services to be added to the main osm site, we will in all likelyh

Re: [OSM-dev] How to earn undying fame

2010-06-22 Thread Nic Roets
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 22/06/10 08:27, Lambertus wrote: > >> So what about my proposal to use the OSM dev server for the purpose of >> determining the server specs? >> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Servers/errol > > Sure, if somebody wants to run some tests

Re: [OSM-dev] How to earn undying fame

2010-06-21 Thread Nic Roets
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Tom Hughes wrote: > All we need now is a volunteer to run the server in the way that Brian does > for the geocoding server. I'll do it. We can start with a small (2GB RAM) server. My ssh key is (also attached): ssh-rsa B3NzaC1yc2EBIwAAAQEArghsg+FgXJgbT

Re: [OSM-dev] How to earn undying fame

2010-06-21 Thread Nic Roets
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 21/06/10 16:00, Nic Roets wrote: > >> The result of the uservoice survey[1] is in: The community wants >> routing on our website more than anything else. > > Like we didn't know that already. Tom, you'

[OSM-dev] How to earn undying fame

2010-06-21 Thread Nic Roets
The result of the uservoice survey[1] is in: The community wants routing on our website more than anything else. And most of the work has already been done. An opensource routing engine that can do the job already exists [2]. The routing database can be updated weekly. The hardware requirements ar

Re: [OSM-dev] .osm tile naming convention

2010-06-04 Thread Nic Roets
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > I'm intending to give Halcyon (the rendering engine behind Potlatch 2, > but also a standalone applet) the ability to render direct from .osm files. > > You will, of course, be able to punt an arbitrary .osm file at it and > let it render

Re: [OSM-dev] GSoC - Travel Time Analysis (classification aproach of Speedcollector)

2010-03-26 Thread Nic Roets
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Marcus Wolschon wrote: > Expected, general travel times and delays due to random events > are 2 different problems. The two problems are so closely interlinked it makes sense to treat them as one. > That there was a car accident last week does not affect the esti

Re: [OSM-dev] GSoC - Travel Time Analysis (classification aproach of Speedcollector)

2010-03-26 Thread Nic Roets
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Marcus Wolschon wrote: > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Nic Roets wrote: >> Rerouting traffic based on collected track logs is essentially an >> extension to this: Take the tracklog, divide it into 2 minute >> intervals (or T seconds). >

Re: [OSM-dev] GSoC - Travel Time Analysis

2010-03-25 Thread Nic Roets
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 2:58 PM, John Robert Peterson wrote: > If somone were finally to solve the problem of matching up traces to ways, > we would be in a position to extend that to identifying some map errors, > such as missing ways, or changed road layouts. This has already been done. See the

Re: [OSM-dev] Project Proposal - Waze Integration

2010-03-24 Thread Nic Roets
Hello Graham, AFAIK Waze wants to build their own map of the world and sees OSM as competition. Waze has already imported TIGER, which is PD and I don't think Waze will be a viable concept without TIGER. SteveC reviewed their Iphone app on his blog. There is however scope for building our own Waz

Re: [OSM-dev] Inserting OSM data

2010-03-22 Thread Nic Roets
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 22/03/10 15:00, Nic Roets wrote: > >> One solution is to add your own tag to the OSM files you generate e.g. >> smartsoft_id=nnn. And publish the files for review somewhere. Then >> scan the minutely updates at pla

Re: [OSM-dev] Inserting OSM data

2010-03-22 Thread Nic Roets
Andreas, One solution is to add your own tag to the OSM files you generate e.g. smartsoft_id=nnn. And publish the files for review somewhere. Then scan the minutely updates at planet.openstreetmap.de for your id numbers and when they appear you can delete them from your DB. You can also upload da

Re: [OSM-dev] Inserting OSM data

2010-03-22 Thread Nic Roets
Hello Andreas, It sounds very generous. If you are providing data for an area where OSM already has coverage, it is a good idea to be in touch with them. The less OSM coverage, the more eager they will be for a real time interface as you suggest. A good starting point is if we help you to write

Re: [OSM-dev] GSoC Suggestion: test.osm suite

2010-03-15 Thread Nic Roets
Hello Tim, This is my routing test file: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/browser/applications/rendering/gosmore/routingTest.osm It consists of 3 parts (foot, bicycle and motorcar). The best route from West to East will route along the outside. The northern part of the motorcar part tests advanced fe

Re: [OSM-dev] Problem with 2010/03/10 planet...

2010-03-12 Thread Nic Roets
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > Jon Burgess wrote: >> It looks like this was caused by a change made by Frederick back in >> r19176. The planet dump code used to turn all characters less than 32 >> into '?' instead of creating these character sequences. I guess he

Re: [OSM-dev] Making libxml ignore errors

2010-03-11 Thread Nic Roets
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 1:48 AM, Bernhard zwischenbrugger wrote: > hi >> >> Does anyone perhaps know how to get libxml to either not detect these >> errors, or how to continue after parsing them ? >> > libxml is correct here. > An XML parser MUST stop if there is an encoding error. Just another r

Re: [OSM-dev] Problem with 2010/03/10 planet...

2010-03-11 Thread Nic Roets
Hello Jeffrey, Yes, the XML is invalid. Apparently these nodes have been in the database for a long time. See http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@openstreetmap.org/msg08148.html I've restarted my split like this. It will be an hour or more before I know if it works: bzcat /osm/planet-10*.osm.bz2 |gre

[OSM-dev] Making libxml ignore errors

2010-03-11 Thread Nic Roets
Hello, There are some bad Xml characters in the planet: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev

Re: [OSM-dev] First version of long way splitter for gdalcontour output

2010-03-10 Thread Nic Roets
w it works. > any bug reports will be processed asap. > > I have updated the blog post, at the bottom you will see two features i > extracted and the source. > > I hope to have some more results soon, > > mike > > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Nic Roets wrote: &g

Re: [OSM-dev] First version of long way splitter for gdalcontour output

2010-03-10 Thread Nic Roets
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:54 PM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: ... > Now my code works in a single pass, at least over the entire data. It builds ... > This can be optimized further. I have exploited the following optimisations ... I process the entire planet every week (+- 5 passes, +-12

Re: [OSM-dev] Mirroring OpenStreetMap

2010-02-08 Thread Nic Roets
Hello Ian, I have done the sums, but the rendered map it is BIG ! Furthermore, it does not contain everything. (Nightclubs was just recently mentioned on talk) and it does not allow searching or routing. You are much better off with something like Navit, or my program, Gosmore, which is currently

Re: [OSM-dev] Osmosis split of the planet

2010-02-08 Thread Nic Roets
Hello Frederik, I was looking for something like your outPipe=r1, inPipe=r1 trick. But as Brett (and you) point out, doing it in one pass will require lots and lots of RAM. And I've tried it with a dividing line in the US. Except 51 rectangles cross that dividing line and I know 51 BitSets will r

Re: [OSM-dev] Osmosis split of the planet

2010-02-08 Thread Nic Roets
which stores each id as a single bit in a > massive data array. IdList is great for large numbers of small bounding > boxes where the total area covers a small portion of the planet. If > somebody can code up with a better mechanism for storing these ids it can be > plugged in as an alt

[OSM-dev] Osmosis split of the planet

2010-02-08 Thread Nic Roets
I'm trying to split the planet into 170 overlapping bboxes like this: http://dev.openstreetmap.de/gosmore/test/ But osmosis keeps running into the 4GB java limit, even after I made a split down the Atlantic. 1. Split the planet into 3 bboxes: Americas, Europe / Africa /Asia /Australia and a bbox

Re: [OSM-dev] Help needed for processing the planet.osm (for osmdoc.com)

2009-08-17 Thread Nic Roets
I also had problems with gosmore consuming needing too many disk seeks (or too much memory) and missing the processor cache. I solved these problems by doing less during the xml processing phase. Just categorize the data and writing it into many temporary files. For example nodes with id's in the

Re: [OSM-dev] A new way to split the planet

2009-08-16 Thread Nic Roets
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 4:15 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 20:07 +0200, Nic Roets wrote: > > > 3. Use an OO spreadsheet to choose the rectangles (density4.ods). OO > > will makes it quite easy: As you drag to highlight a rectangle, it > > will display t

[OSM-dev] A new way to split the planet

2009-08-14 Thread Nic Roets
CM and Geofabrik both publish planet extracts by country / region. They are great if you want to answer questions like "How many fueling stations are mapped in ... ?". And they are great if you live on an island. But if you want to travel from Brussels in Belgium to Rotterdam in the Netherlands, y