Re: [OSM-dev] Automatically triggering export as PDF from openstreetmap.org -> share?

[Bjoern Hassler]

Dear friends,

thanks for your suggestions so far!

Another possibility that I have come across is https://inkatlas.com, which
offers an API (https://inkatlas.com/docs/), however only as part of the
"Pro" paid-for package. As our project is non-profit, the dev's are going
to give us access to the API, so we can try this out.

In case people are interested in our project (an atlas of the Ghanaian
Colleges of Education), I'll send a link to the final (collated) PDF when
we have it.

Suggestions and updates remain very welcome!

Thanks again!
Bjoern

On 23 December 2017 at 13:36, Bjoern Hassler  wrote:

> Hi Hartmut,
>
> thank you!
>
>>
>> https://maposmatic.osm-baustelle.de/maps/10931
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> At DIN A2 SVG has ~100KB, PDF ~200KB, 300dpi PNG 1.3MB (~650K when using
>> reduced color space)
>
>
> That's very useful to know, and as suspected.
>
>
>> You can re-render the map at any time using the "recreate" icon in
>> the result page.
>
>
> That's also useful!
>
>
>> Good news is that I plan to work on this on 34c3 (chaos communication
>> congress) between christmas and new year, and better automation is high
>> on the todo list ...
>
>
> That's great! Do keep me informed!
>
> Bjoern
>
>
>>
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Re: [OSM-dev] Automatically triggering export as PDF from openstreetmap.org -> share?

[Bjoern Hassler]

Hi Hartmut,

thank you!

>
> https://maposmatic.osm-baustelle.de/maps/10931


Thanks!

At DIN A2 SVG has ~100KB, PDF ~200KB, 300dpi PNG 1.3MB (~650K when using
> reduced color space)


That's very useful to know, and as suspected.


> You can re-render the map at any time using the "recreate" icon in
> the result page.


That's also useful!


> Good news is that I plan to work on this on 34c3 (chaos communication
> congress) between christmas and new year, and better automation is high
> on the todo list ...


That's great! Do keep me informed!

Bjoern


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Re: [OSM-dev] Automatically triggering export as PDF from openstreetmap.org -> share?

[Hartmut Holzgraefe]

Hello Bjoern,

On 22.12.2017 10:06, Bjoern Hassler wrote:

Dear Frederik, dear Paul,

Thank you for your message! I suppose I made the mistake of asking for a 
technical fix, rather than fully explaining the problem...


I have 40 small, discontinues areas in Ghana (the 40 public colleges of 
education), like this
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/450562441#map=16/7.4129/0.4631 

and I want to produce print. The files itself will be downloaded locally 
(or emailed), and then printed locally. So the file needs to be small, 
and print resolution (say for A2 or A3).


See

https://maposmatic.osm-baustelle.de/maps/10931

for a A2 example of Jasikan

We're actively editing this at the moment (and have been over the last 
year), so we'd like to print from up-to-date data.


Print + small files, means PDF, as its vector, and can be printed at any 
size. I assume PNG at 300dpi, A3, would be massive.


At DIN A2 SVG has ~100KB, PDF ~200KB, 300dpi PNG 1.3MB (~650K when using
reduced color space)


There aren't loads of areas, and manual export would be ok. However, 
because the areas are discontinuous, I am looking for a solution where I 
can work from lat/lon, rather than having to manually select areas. 


You can manually enter lat/lon ranges in the selection form, but it is
not very convenient yet.

Selecting by city name is also possible, but only if border polygons
exist.

But at least search works just fine and can give you correct position
at least.

Once 
this would be ok, but we'd like to be able to repeat the export later. 

>
Most tools don't allow you to go back to maps that you've already 
produced, to reprint simply with data a year on.


You can re-render the map at any time using the "recreate" icon in
the result page. Unfortunately that's a POST request for now, so
not easy to automate



You could
also try

* https://maposmatic.osm-baustelle.de/
 (a working fork of the
discontinued MapOsMatic project, does PDFs)


I'll see whether it's possible to generate maps of predefined areas or 
re-print maps (with the same boundaries). At least from the web UI, it 
doesn't look like it.


So an API for generating maps from given parameters automatically is
missing, but at least the "re-print with same settings" functionality
is actually there (just not that easy to spot, the "recreate" button
should have a clear label instead of just the icon.


Good news is that I plan to work on this on 34c3 (chaos communication 
congress) between christmas and new year, and better automation is high

on the todo list ...

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Re: [OSM-dev] Automatically triggering export as PDF from openstreetmap.org -> share?

[Bjoern Hassler]

Hi Joost, hi Martin,

thanks for the comments - I'll have a look. I may just print the maps by
hand from the OSM site for now, and look into more advanced options in the
future.

QGIS lets you export / print to raster (png), pdf (AFAIK both, raster and
> vector, there's an option "print as raster") and svg (not working well,
> e.g. I had problems with uncropped lines at the border). Depending on your
> settings (resolution, scale and feature density on the map), it is not a
> given that a vector representation will produce smaller files in any case
> (when zoomed in you will usually get smaller files, if there is a lot of
> detail in a large scale map, you will not see it in the print, but it will
> inflate your file).
>

Yes of course - that's very true! In my case, I'm producing maps a few 100m
across (the size of a college).

Many thanks again!
Bjoern
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Re: [OSM-dev] Automatically triggering export as PDF from openstreetmap.org -> share?

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

2017-12-22 10:27 GMT+01:00 joost schouppe :

>
> Third, you should be able to rotate through the set of places with the
> Atlas function.
> Last, export to PDF; I have no idea if QGIS can produce the kind of PDFs
> you need.
>


I've also recently made some maps for print with QGIS. As Joost says, you
will usually get a pbf osm file, import it into a database (I'm using the
standard osm2pgsql with latlong for this with hstore, although my QGIS
versions requires to create views for selecting hstore fields, which makes
it a bit more tedious, in the end I got it working). I'm using latlong
because I'm reprojecting on the fly to different systems in different
areas.

QGIS lets you export / print to raster (png), pdf (AFAIK both, raster and
vector, there's an option "print as raster") and svg (not working well,
e.g. I had problems with uncropped lines at the border). Depending on your
settings (resolution, scale and feature density on the map), it is not a
given that a vector representation will produce smaller files in any case
(when zoomed in you will usually get smaller files, if there is a lot of
detail in a large scale map, you will not see it in the print, but it will
inflate your file).

Cheers,
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Re: [OSM-dev] Automatically triggering export as PDF from openstreetmap.org -> share?

[joost schouppe]

I'm not familiar with the exact workflow in QGIS, but I think you could
probably fully automate this process with it.

On the data side, just download a county PBF file (for example from
geofabrik), and convert it to a database. I always use spatialite for
things like this, here's a manual:
https://github.com/osmbe/qgis_rendering/blob/master/qgis-loves-spatialite.md
Or you could use the shapefiles provided there.

Then you need a set of rendering rules. There seem to be some basic styles
around that you could reuse:
https://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/90086/is-there-a-good-qml-or-sld-file-available-for-qgis-openstreetmap-data
Updating your maps would just be a matter of replacing the source files.

Third, you should be able to rotate through the set of places with the
Atlas function.
Last, export to PDF; I have no idea if QGIS can produce the kind of PDFs
you need.

2017-12-22 10:06 GMT+01:00 Bjoern Hassler :

> Dear Frederik, dear Paul,
>
> Thank you for your message! I suppose I made the mistake of asking for a
> technical fix, rather than fully explaining the problem...
>
> I have 40 small, discontinues areas in Ghana (the 40 public colleges of
> education), like this
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/450562441#map=16/7.4129/0.4631
> and I want to produce print. The files itself will be downloaded locally
> (or emailed), and then printed locally. So the file needs to be small, and
> print resolution (say for A2 or A3).
>
> We're actively editing this at the moment (and have been over the last
> year), so we'd like to print from up-to-date data.
>
> Print + small files, means PDF, as its vector, and can be printed at any
> size. I assume PNG at 300dpi, A3, would be massive.
>
> There aren't loads of areas, and manual export would be ok. However,
> because the areas are discontinuous, I am looking for a solution where I
> can work from lat/lon, rather than having to manually select areas. Once
> this would be ok, but we'd like to be able to repeat the export later. Most
> tools don't allow you to go back to maps that you've already produced, to
> reprint simply with data a year on.
>
>
>
>> https://operations.osmfoundation.org/policies/tiles/
>> ...
>
> so using a script to produce these PDFs would violate the policy except
>> in rare circumstances where running the script is triggered by a user
>> request.
>>
>
> I'd be quite happy to click manually. At the moment, I enter the values
> for scale manually, resize the browser window so it gives me the right
> nominal dimensions (for PDF), then export. However, it would be helpful to
> have a preconfigured link, that gives me my settings (scale, dimensions).
>
>>
>> * download and stitch tiles, convert to PDF; search for "OSM bigmap" for
>> different implementations.
>
> * use the "staticmap" script on openstreetmap.de like this:
>> http://staticmap.openstreetmap.de/staticmap.php?center=40,-
>> 50=2=500x350
>>
>> Both will only give you standard resolution raster images.
>
>
> As above, vector would be preferable.
>
>
>> You could
>> also try
>>
>> * https://maposmatic.osm-baustelle.de/ (a working fork of the
>> discontinued MapOsMatic project, does PDFs)
>>
>
> I'll see whether it's possible to generate maps of predefined areas or
> re-print maps (with the same boundaries). At least from the web UI, it
> doesn't look like it.
>
>
>> * http://printmaps-osm.de:8080/ (Europe only, quarterly data updates,
>> does PDFs in theory but currently only PNG works)
>>
>
> I'm outside Europe, and need up-to-date data.
>
>
>> or if you're on Windows or willing to use Mono, Maperitive can also
>> generate PDFs for any region using data from Overpass, and it's
>> scriptable (even headless).
>>
>
> OK, I'll have a look. However, it looks like it produces only SVG, which
> I'd then have to process.
>
>
>>
>> Of course, the canonical solution is "install your own
>> postgres/mapnik/nik4.py and run it locally" ;)
>>
>>
> Paul, why is the recommendation to produce PNG first?
>
> Thanks both for you input - much appreciated!!
> Bjoern
>
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Re: [OSM-dev] Automatically triggering export as PDF from openstreetmap.org -> share?

[Yves]

Have a look at the print function at Opensnowmap.org, it's just a bit of 
Javascript and Leaflet or Openlayers to achieve a pdf printing from a browser. 
Yves 

Le 22 décembre 2017 10:06:00 GMT+01:00, Bjoern Hassler  a 
écrit :
>Dear Frederik, dear Paul,
>
>Thank you for your message! I suppose I made the mistake of asking for
>a
>technical fix, rather than fully explaining the problem...
>
>I have 40 small, discontinues areas in Ghana (the 40 public colleges of
>education), like this
>http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/450562441#map=16/7.4129/0.4631
>and I want to produce print. The files itself will be downloaded
>locally
>(or emailed), and then printed locally. So the file needs to be small,
>and
>print resolution (say for A2 or A3).
>
>We're actively editing this at the moment (and have been over the last
>year), so we'd like to print from up-to-date data.
>
>Print + small files, means PDF, as its vector, and can be printed at
>any
>size. I assume PNG at 300dpi, A3, would be massive.
>
>There aren't loads of areas, and manual export would be ok. However,
>because the areas are discontinuous, I am looking for a solution where
>I
>can work from lat/lon, rather than having to manually select areas.
>Once
>this would be ok, but we'd like to be able to repeat the export later.
>Most
>tools don't allow you to go back to maps that you've already produced,
>to
>reprint simply with data a year on.
>
>
>
>> https://operations.osmfoundation.org/policies/tiles/
>> ...
>
>so using a script to produce these PDFs would violate the policy except
>> in rare circumstances where running the script is triggered by a user
>> request.
>>
>
>I'd be quite happy to click manually. At the moment, I enter the values
>for
>scale manually, resize the browser window so it gives me the right
>nominal
>dimensions (for PDF), then export. However, it would be helpful to have
>a
>preconfigured link, that gives me my settings (scale, dimensions).
>
>>
>> * download and stitch tiles, convert to PDF; search for "OSM bigmap"
>for
>> different implementations.
>
>* use the "staticmap" script on openstreetmap.de like this:
>>
>http://staticmap.openstreetmap.de/staticmap.php?center=40,-50=2=
>> 500x350
>>
>> Both will only give you standard resolution raster images.
>
>
>As above, vector would be preferable.
>
>
>> You could
>> also try
>>
>> * https://maposmatic.osm-baustelle.de/ (a working fork of the
>> discontinued MapOsMatic project, does PDFs)
>>
>
>I'll see whether it's possible to generate maps of predefined areas or
>re-print maps (with the same boundaries). At least from the web UI, it
>doesn't look like it.
>
>
>> * http://printmaps-osm.de:8080/ (Europe only, quarterly data updates,
>> does PDFs in theory but currently only PNG works)
>>
>
>I'm outside Europe, and need up-to-date data.
>
>
>> or if you're on Windows or willing to use Mono, Maperitive can also
>> generate PDFs for any region using data from Overpass, and it's
>> scriptable (even headless).
>>
>
>OK, I'll have a look. However, it looks like it produces only SVG,
>which
>I'd then have to process.
>
>
>>
>> Of course, the canonical solution is "install your own
>> postgres/mapnik/nik4.py and run it locally" ;)
>>
>>
>Paul, why is the recommendation to produce PNG first?
>
>Thanks both for you input - much appreciated!!
>Bjoern
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Re: [OSM-dev] Automatically triggering export as PDF from openstreetmap.org -> share?

[Bjoern Hassler]

Dear Frederik, dear Paul,

Thank you for your message! I suppose I made the mistake of asking for a
technical fix, rather than fully explaining the problem...

I have 40 small, discontinues areas in Ghana (the 40 public colleges of
education), like this
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/450562441#map=16/7.4129/0.4631
and I want to produce print. The files itself will be downloaded locally
(or emailed), and then printed locally. So the file needs to be small, and
print resolution (say for A2 or A3).

We're actively editing this at the moment (and have been over the last
year), so we'd like to print from up-to-date data.

Print + small files, means PDF, as its vector, and can be printed at any
size. I assume PNG at 300dpi, A3, would be massive.

There aren't loads of areas, and manual export would be ok. However,
because the areas are discontinuous, I am looking for a solution where I
can work from lat/lon, rather than having to manually select areas. Once
this would be ok, but we'd like to be able to repeat the export later. Most
tools don't allow you to go back to maps that you've already produced, to
reprint simply with data a year on.



> https://operations.osmfoundation.org/policies/tiles/
> ...

so using a script to produce these PDFs would violate the policy except
> in rare circumstances where running the script is triggered by a user
> request.
>

I'd be quite happy to click manually. At the moment, I enter the values for
scale manually, resize the browser window so it gives me the right nominal
dimensions (for PDF), then export. However, it would be helpful to have a
preconfigured link, that gives me my settings (scale, dimensions).

>
> * download and stitch tiles, convert to PDF; search for "OSM bigmap" for
> different implementations.

* use the "staticmap" script on openstreetmap.de like this:
> http://staticmap.openstreetmap.de/staticmap.php?center=40,-50=2=
> 500x350
>
> Both will only give you standard resolution raster images.


As above, vector would be preferable.


> You could
> also try
>
> * https://maposmatic.osm-baustelle.de/ (a working fork of the
> discontinued MapOsMatic project, does PDFs)
>

I'll see whether it's possible to generate maps of predefined areas or
re-print maps (with the same boundaries). At least from the web UI, it
doesn't look like it.


> * http://printmaps-osm.de:8080/ (Europe only, quarterly data updates,
> does PDFs in theory but currently only PNG works)
>

I'm outside Europe, and need up-to-date data.


> or if you're on Windows or willing to use Mono, Maperitive can also
> generate PDFs for any region using data from Overpass, and it's
> scriptable (even headless).
>

OK, I'll have a look. However, it looks like it produces only SVG, which
I'd then have to process.


>
> Of course, the canonical solution is "install your own
> postgres/mapnik/nik4.py and run it locally" ;)
>
>
Paul, why is the recommendation to produce PNG first?

Thanks both for you input - much appreciated!!
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Re: [OSM-dev] Automatically triggering export as PDF from openstreetmap.org -> share?

[Frederik Ramm]

Bjoern,

On 12/21/2017 09:40 PM, Bjoern Hassler wrote:
> The idea would be to produce a PDF in the same way as manually going to
> export, selecting format PDF, scale 1:2500 and dimensions 800x1000?

The current usage policies in

https://operations.osmfoundation.org/policies/tiles/

say that

"Calls to /cgi-bin/export may only be triggered by direct end-user
action. (For example: “click here to export”.) The export call is an
expensive (CPU+RAM) function to run and will frequently reject when
server is under high load."

so using a script to produce these PDFs would violate the policy except
in rare circumstances where running the script is triggered by a user
request.

What you could do instead:

* download and stitch tiles, convert to PDF; search for "OSM bigmap" for
different implementations.

* use the "staticmap" script on openstreetmap.de like this:
http://staticmap.openstreetmap.de/staticmap.php?center=40,-50=2=500x350

Both will only give you standard resolution raster images. You could
also try

* https://maposmatic.osm-baustelle.de/ (a working fork of the
discontinued MapOsMatic project, does PDFs)

or the somewhat idiosyncratic but powerful

* http://printmaps-osm.de:8080/ (Europe only, quarterly data updates,
does PDFs in theory but currently only PNG works)

or if you're on Windows or willing to use Mono, Maperitive can also
generate PDFs for any region using data from Overpass, and it's
scriptable (even headless).

Of course, the canonical solution is "install your own
postgres/mapnik/nik4.py and run it locally" ;)

Bye
Frederik

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[OSM-dev] Automatically triggering export as PDF from openstreetmap.org -> share?

[Bjoern Hassler]

Dear friends,

Suppose I have a standard OSM URL, e.g. as follows:
URL1 = http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/450562441#map=16/7.4129/0.4631

Is it possible to automatically produce a PDF, say via URL something like
this:

URL2 = URL1?format=PDF=800x1000=2500

The idea would be to produce a PDF in the same way as manually going to
export, selecting format PDF, scale 1:2500 and dimensions 800x1000?

I suppose there would be some kind of POST request that could be done, that
simulates the form input? Would be great to have a script I could use,
rather than trying to figure it out. I would be most grateful for any
suggestions!!

Many thanks,
Bjoern
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