? The characters actually
describing stuff starts after [slf4j-dev] [GIT] SLF4J: Simple Logging
Facade for Java branch which is wider than the space I have in my
subject column.
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return null;
Please. No null values returned - it means that you need to check the
return value each and every time. Much rather a NullObject.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Null_Object_pattern
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Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen wrote:
Would your friend be interested in reviewing such documentation,
perhaps even with the intent of providing it to the students?
Yes, he'd be interested in both ;)
I got around to finish the first draft :)
I'd appreciate your
the actual calls to the API in
here (disconnected from slf4j as such) and write a suitable appender.
I was basically wondering if this abstraction was essentially something
that would make sense to have in the API too.
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On 01.06.2009, at 20:23, Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen wrote:
Ceki Gulcu skrev:
Hi Thorbjoern,
You have two tools at your disposal: markes and MDC. Do you think you
could come up with something using those two primitives?
Perhaps. It would need to map into two calls, one
Ceki Gulcu skrev:
Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen wrote:
I think that would be one of those use cases for an NDC... see
http://apps.sourceforge.net/trac/lilith/wiki/NestedDiagnosticContext
Interesting. But does anything actually happen when the push and
pops are executed?
You can emulate NDC
needs additional logback
configuration to map the above to snippets calling the appropriate
methods hooking into the native logging system?
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open the source to look at it. I have been in a situation all too often
where the user reports only the stack trace (because the web page tells
them to:) and you need to decide where to go from there. The more
information the better :)
In _MY_ opinion :)
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than ending up with a simple but
well-explained real-life slf4j example.
Input is welcome :)
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would you suggest mapping this to the slf4j API?
Thanks :)
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- abbreviated date in a
timestamp (plus our standard scenario restarts all applications every
night).
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the class
providing the Log4jLoggerAdapter instance to provide your class instead.
But enough technicalities. I'd much rather that you provide specific
detail on what it is you want to solve, and why it cannot be done within
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Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen wrote:
But enough technicalities. I'd much rather that you provide specific
detail on what it is you want to solve, and why it cannot be done
within the current functionality?
It would be interesting to hear about the problem he is trying
it to the students?
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Ceki Gulcu skrev:
Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen wrote:
For people who come to slf4j and do not already know about the
subject it is a steep learning curve. Apparently even intentionally...
The intention is obviously not to annoy users on purpose.
Obviously? Not to me, sorry.
Thank you
agree with this :)
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Ceki Gulcu skrev:
Hello Thorbjoern,
I am in favor of code prettifiers as long as they allow us to
emphasize, e.g. present in bold, selected parts of the code, but if
not, then I prefer ugly. :-)
Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen wrote:
Ceki Gulcu skrev:
Hello Thorbjørn,
Do you intend to pursue
, then I'd love to hear about it.
[1] - We have considered it, but went for putting the libraries we need
in CVS instead as Eclipse projects. It turned out for now to be the
path of least resistance for us.
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it.
Have you read what _I_ say? I think it is fine that you mention and
promote logback. I just think you should be clear and say WHY :-) Your
readers are intelligent - so I'm sure they'll understand :)
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Ceki Gulcu skrev den 21-04-2009 22:55:
Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen wrote:
The praise for logback sticked out as much as the putting down of
JCL, as this is in the context of a platform neutral logging
framework facade.
I have to agree, having a separate section on logback stuck out
cannot find it for now :((
What editor do you use? If you use Emacs or vi in a vt100 that might
explain it :)
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on your platform (it is just a zipfile) and if I
document step-by-step how to extract slf4j from subversion and create a
Eclipse workspace with that, so you can see the errors, would that be a
reasonable approach? The Eclipse compiler locates a lot more than the
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Ceki Gulcu skrev:
Hi Thorbjørn,
Would you please elaborate on why you removed the section on built-in
support in logback? Was it for reasons of principal or readability?
r...@slf4j.org wrote:
Author: ravn
Date: Sat Apr 18 21:20:52 2009
New Revision: 1318
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j
Author: ravn
Date: Sat Apr 18 21:30:01 2009
New Revision: 1319
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages/manual.html
Log:
revised the legacy mentioning
Modified: slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages/manual.html
Author: ravn
Date: Sat Apr 18 21:41:21 2009
New Revision: 1320
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages/manual.html
Log:
added note on isDebugEnabled
Modified: slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages/manual.html
Author: ravn
Date: Sun Apr 19 02:23:53 2009
New Revision: 1321
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages/manual.html
Log:
experimental colorized version of HelloWorld.java
Modified: slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages/manual.html
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already for the overhead of creating a
logger for each object?
Am I right in assuming that the logback mechanism for looking up loggers
is faster than in log4j? There must be a reason for the original
recommandation :)
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and instance loggers comes into play if you
instantiate many (as in 100'000) instances of the same class.
Do you have benchmarks of this already or is it an estimate from experience?
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Author: ravn
Date: Thu Apr 16 17:24:15 2009
New Revision: 1302
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages/manual.html
Log:
added Hello World section
Modified: slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages/manual.html
Author: ravn
Date: Thu Apr 16 18:10:15 2009
New Revision: 1303
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages/manual.html
Log:
made logger in usage example static
Modified: slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages/manual.html
Author: ravn
Date: Thu Apr 16 21:40:41 2009
New Revision: 1304
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages/manual.html
Log:
revised presentation of supported frameworks, sprinkled links, clarified MDC
Modified: slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages/manual.html
Author: ravn
Date: Thu Apr 16 21:46:45 2009
New Revision: 1305
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages/manual.html
Log:
revised fail-fast operation text to conform with title
Modified: slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages/manual.html
Author: ravn
Date: Thu Apr 16 22:00:22 2009
New Revision: 1306
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages/manual.html
Log:
cleaned JCL bashing
Modified: slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages/manual.html
Author: ravn
Date: Sun Jan 11 14:11:01 2009
New Revision: 1264
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j/instrumentation/ToStringHelper.java
Log:
Experimented with detecting recursive calls on the same object, but it
didn't work well. Ended up adding recommendation to disable
Author: ravn
Date: Sun Jan 11 14:11:48 2009
New Revision: 1265
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages/extensions.html
Log:
Added note on disabling troublesome classes in the log backend
configuration file as it has turned out to be very hard (for me) to
handle recursive toString
Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen skrev:
Ceki Gulcu skrev den 03-10-2008 21:53:
Are there any remaining tasks? Thorbjørn is still working on agent
instrumentation. Ralph has volunteered to add documentation about XLogger.
The
I think the agent instrumentation should not be announced
Author: ravn
Date: Sun Dec 28 00:37:28 2008
New Revision: 1263
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j/instrumentation/LogTransformer.java
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages/extensions.html
Log:
Revised documentation and ensured that log4j and logback classes
Author: ravn
Date: Thu Dec 25 20:00:12 2008
New Revision: 1261
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j/instrumentation/ToStringHelper.java
Log:
Improved documentation
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j/instrumentation/ToStringHelper.java
Author: ravn
Date: Sun Dec 21 19:17:04 2008
New Revision: 1257
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j/instrumentation/JavassistHelper.java
Log:
Now is robust against exceptions in parameter rendering by
keeping a WeakHashMap of those classes which cannot be rendered
Author: ravn
Date: Sun Dec 21 20:08:06 2008
New Revision: 1258
Added:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j/instrumentation/ToStringHelper.java
Log:
Now is robust against exceptions in parameter rendering by
keeping a WeakHashMap of those classes which cannot be rendered.
Added
Author: ravn
Date: Sun Dec 21 21:30:58 2008
New Revision: 1259
Added:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/test/java/org/slf4j/instrumentation/
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/test/java/org/slf4j/instrumentation/ToStringHelperTest.java
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j
Author: ravn
Date: Sun Dec 21 22:48:17 2008
New Revision: 1260
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j/instrumentation/ToStringHelper.java
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/test/java/org/slf4j/instrumentation/ToStringHelperTest.java
Log:
more unit tests for nested arrays
using it that it should
pick up the javaassist dependency for tests?
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, but this is rather sneaky I think.
Suggestions?
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Author: ravn
Date: Sat Nov 15 16:05:39 2008
New Revision: 1235
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j/instrumentation/LogTransformer.java
Log:
Now uses domain classloader to see if slf4j is available, and only instruments
if so.
This allows to shorten the ignore path
Author: ravn
Date: Fri Nov 14 23:50:07 2008
New Revision: 1233
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages/extensions.html
Log:
removed note about slf4j-api in slf4j-ext, and clarified agent option import
default value
Modified: slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages/extensions.html
Author: ravn
Date: Thu Nov 13 00:11:19 2008
New Revision: 1228
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages/extensions.html
Log:
first draft of javaagent documentation
Modified: slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages/extensions.html
Ceki Gulcu skrev:
The html files on the slf4j site are *not* generated nor transformed. To have
the same look and feel, each page includes javascript and css files.
It is supposed to be extremely easy. Just have a look.
Ok. Glad you kept it simple - it get rather confusing pretty
Ceki Gulcu skrev:
Are there any remaining tasks? Thorbjørn is still working on agent
instrumentation. Ralph has volunteered to add documentation about XLogger.
The
I believe this is now as good as it is going to get at this point. I
still need to write the usage documentation where the
Author: ravn
Date: Mon Nov 10 23:39:05 2008
New Revision: 1226
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/pom.xml
Log:
revised bootclasspath so referring directly to jar in maven will work
Modified: slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/pom.xml
Author: ravn
Date: Mon Nov 10 00:14:19 2008
New Revision: 1222
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j/agent/AgentPremain.java
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j/instrumentation/JavassistHelper.java
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j
Ceki Gulcu skrev:
Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote:
Ceki Gulcu skrev:
Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote:
I have been wondering what exactly it is that you are trying to do? Is
it trying to establish a unit for CPU usage from which you can establish
an upper bound for how
Author: ravn
Date: Mon Oct 27 22:33:31 2008
New Revision: 1218
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j/agent/AgentPremain.java
Log:
added javadoc
Modified: slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j/agent/AgentPremain.java
Author: ravn
Date: Mon Oct 27 22:36:15 2008
New Revision: 1219
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j/agent/package.html
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j/instrumentation/JavassistHelper.java
Log:
added javadoc
Modified: slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java
Author: ravn
Date: Mon Oct 27 22:50:45 2008
New Revision: 1220
Added:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j/agent/AgentOptions.java
Log:
put options in seperate file for documentation purposes
Added: slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j/agent/AgentOptions.java
Author: ravn
Date: Sat Oct 25 16:39:44 2008
New Revision: 1215
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j/agent/AgentPremain.java
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j/instrumentation/JavassistHelper.java
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j
Ralph Goers skrev:
What Ceki is doing is an imperfect, but better approach than what you
are suggesting. The current approach adjusts its expectations based on
the baseline performance of the build machine. So as builds are done on
slower or faster hardware the expected baseline should
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Author: ceki
Date: Thu Oct 23 18:54:02 2008
New Revision: 1210
Added:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-api/src/test/java/org/slf4j/helpers/BubbleSort.java
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-api/src/test/java/org/slf4j/helpers/BubbleSortTest.java
included in OS X is too old, built a new svn, found that for https you
need a library, built library, rebuilt svn and then ended up with:
ravn:~ ravn$ cd work/slf4j/trunk
ravn:trunk ravn$ svn update
Uslf4j-osgi-integration-test/pom.xml
UbinderVersion.pl
Aintegration/lib/slf4j-simple
Author: ravn
Date: Thu Oct 23 21:37:53 2008
New Revision: 1211
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/pom.xml
Log:
disabled summary for test phase
Modified: slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/pom.xml
==
--- slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/pom.xml
Ceki Gulcu skrev:
Hi Thorbjørn,
Why is Hudson the Extensible continuous integration engine relevant in
relation with building slf4j or more precisely running mvn test?
Hudson builds stuff, and notifies you when stuff breaks. mvn test is a
required part of the building of slf4j. Hence
I did some research to see if I could run automated testing on a clean
room JVM, but it turned out to be a bit harder than originally expected,
as most prepackaged java stuff in one way or another pulls in OpenJDK.
The most important result was that GNU Classpath is missing JAXP-classes
needed
Ceki Gulcu skrev:
Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote:
I asked earlier how you set up Eclipse to work with slf4j but did not
get a clear answer. Do you just extract the files outside of eclipse
and manually set up a complete build path?
After checking out SLF4J, I invoke mvm
Ceki Gulcu skrev den 03-10-2008 21:53:
Are there any remaining tasks? Thorbjørn is still working on agent
instrumentation. Ralph has volunteered to add documentation about XLogger.
The
I think the agent instrumentation should not be announced until it is
ready. In that regard I am
Ceki Gulcu skrev:
Thorbjørn,
I am unfamiliar with m2eclipse but I don't see how m2eclipse has anything to
do
with SVN. Either you can work with your working copy with the usual tools
such
as SVN, Subeclipse and the like, or you can't. Do those tools work for you?
m2eclipse
Author: ravn
Date: Sun Oct 5 17:19:23 2008
New Revision: 1186
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j/instrumentation/JavassistHelper.java
Log:
now takes synchronized parameter in consideration and is more robust of lack of
information
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src
Ralph Goers skrev:
Our requirements include enabling and disabling logging without
restarting the application. Whether it is done via the current
mechanisms or AOP doesn't really matter as this requirement doesn't
change. I realize it could be hard to implement.
I have now reached a
Author: ravn
Date: Sat Oct 4 12:50:30 2008
New Revision: 1184
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j/instrumentation/LogTransformer.java
Log:
added apple and sun to those packages to be ignored
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j/instrumentation
Author: ravn
Date: Sat Oct 4 12:51:49 2008
New Revision: 1185
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j/instrumentation/JavassistHelper.java
Log:
now handles arrays of arrays to see if the array base is a primitive (which
Arrays.asList does not like)
Modified:
slf4j/trunk
Ralph Goers skrev:
XLogger just provides some basic extended methods in a standardized
way. I would prefer that rather than use _log.debug you would use
XLogger.entry as it makes filtering them easier.
Let us come back to that later.
In our code we manually add entry, exit, caught,
Author: ravn
Date: Sat Oct 4 00:49:33 2008
New Revision: 1182
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j/instrumentation/LogTransformer.java
Log:
added log level option, default=info
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j/instrumentation/LogTransformer.java
Author: ravn
Date: Thu Oct 2 21:11:01 2008
New Revision: 1168
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/pom.xml
Log:
cannot test the resulting jar yet.
Modified: slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/pom.xml
==
--- slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext
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Author: ceki
Date: Thu Oct 2 20:14:25 2008
New Revision: 1165
Added:
slf4j/trunk/binderVersion.pl
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/goVersion.sh
slf4j/trunk/version.pl
Log:
- a perl script to edit the version number of StaticLoggerBinder.java files
This is
Ceki Gulcu skrev:
Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote:
Any particular reason you wrote a Perl script instead of using the Ant
Replace task?
Here is the rationale. As the release manager, I am the only one who runs the
script. The Ant equivalent of the script would
Ceki Gulcu skrev:
Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote:
I read up a bit on this. It appears that maven-surefire-plugin cannot
both do unit tests and integration tests in the same life cycle (as far
as I understood).
Oh the joy of other peoples tools :)
Maven is far from perfect
Ceki Gulcu skrev:
Actually in the article I used the INFO level as it is the lowest level
printed out by j.u.l without a configuration file. I think it would be
a valid default level to keep the entry barrier as low as possible, and
then have a level keyword to the agent to override this.
Author: ravn
Date: Wed Oct 1 21:57:55 2008
New Revision: 1155
Added:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j/agent/AgentPremain.java
(contents, props changed)
- copied, changed from r1154,
/slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j/agent/AgentMain.java
slf4j/trunk
Author: ravn
Date: Wed Oct 1 22:04:01 2008
New Revision: 1156
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/pom.xml
Log:
beginning to generalize premain() and log transformer (which now has a builder)
Modified: slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/pom.xml
Ralph Goers skrev:
Can you describe how this is intended to work? Does this inject logging
at runtime or build time?
Naturally.
It will inject logging statements at runtime (specifically class load
time) in all classes (which I am reconsidering) except some which are
blacklisted.
Author: ravn
Date: Thu Oct 2 00:26:24 2008
New Revision: 1157
Modified:
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j/agent/AgentPremain.java
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j/instrumentation/JavassistHelper.java
slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j
Ceki Gulcu skrev:
Thorbjørn,
I just simulated commiting a message under your user id. (I had to
momentarily
replace your MD5 password with my MD5 password.)
Anyway, as this message shows, it worked.
I'm trying to get unit tests up and running in Maven for the agent, but
I am
Ceki Gulcu skrev den 09-09-2008 15:04:
Hello Thorbjørn,
Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote:
My Windows box needed to be reinstalled and it takes longer than
expected to be fully back in business. This includes my logback/slf4j
subscriptions.
A crashing laptop? Sounds like fun
screen to an analysis tool on the lines of a debugger.
I'd love to discuss this, if there are anybody else but me who thinks
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get suitable attention and give some suitable help. I have dug up the
XML-snippet that makes Eclipse insert a logger defintiion when creating
a new class. That would be perfect.
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in the classloader. This to me means
that either a full slfj4 + backend must be provided or the usual
responsibilities must be obeyed by the deployer.
The agent needs javaassist to run at all.
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