Re: Moving to bin/solr start defaulting to SolrCloud mode?

2024-02-26 Thread Eric Pugh
Thanks for the link…. I don’t think anything I read in the thread suggested that merely changing the default to cloud mode instead of standalone mode (sounds like we are going back to that term!) would raise any issues. Obviously deprecating standalone is a much bigger deal and not part of

Re: Moving to bin/solr start defaulting to SolrCloud mode?

2024-02-26 Thread David Smiley
Whoops; bad URL. Here it is: https://lists.apache.org/thread/r7mh069t5zvqv3o3ymglm627pcdgjzfw On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 3:59 PM David Smiley wrote: > > Also reference a bigger discussion of August that same year: > "SolrCloud Alone: Deprecate Standalone Mode" >

Re: Moving to bin/solr start defaulting to SolrCloud mode?

2024-02-26 Thread Jan Høydahl
I too refer to it as "standalone". "User-managed" was mainly invented to have a name for distributed "standalon", in which case standalone could be confused with "singlenode"? Thanks David for the other list reference. Useful context for sure. Jan > 26. feb. 2024 kl. 19:05 skrev Eric Pugh : >

Re: Moving to bin/solr start defaulting to SolrCloud mode?

2024-02-26 Thread Eric Pugh
Can you re-share that link to the thread "SolrCloud Alone: Deprecate Standalone Mode”. I took a look and didn’t find it. We could change to standalone ;-). We have a nice glossary in our ref guide https://solr.apache.org/guide/solr/latest/getting-started/solr-glossary.html that doesn’t

Re: Moving to bin/solr start defaulting to SolrCloud mode?

2024-02-26 Thread David Smiley
Also reference a bigger discussion of August that same year: "SolrCloud Alone: Deprecate Standalone Mode" https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@solr.apache.org (reading past conversations on a topic should be required reading when introducing again) RE "user-managed" I recall Cassandra was

Re: MixedCase or dashed-case for long options in Solr CLI?

2024-02-26 Thread Walter Underwood
Long options are dashed-case, following the GNU convention. POSIX only specifies single character options. The “—“ prefix for long options is a GNU invention, as far as I know. Older Unix commands with long option names, e.g. find, only use a single dash.

Re: Moving to bin/solr start defaulting to SolrCloud mode?

2024-02-26 Thread Eric Pugh
I’ll inline my responses... > On Feb 26, 2024, at 7:34 AM, Arrieta, Alejandro > wrote: > > Hello Eric, > > 1) The idea here is that when a user run’s “bin/solr start” it fires up an > embedded zookeeper. Same behavior as “bin/solr -c” in Solr 9.5.If you > have a Zookeeper Ensemble then

Re: MixedCase or dashed-case for long options in Solr CLI?

2024-02-26 Thread Eric Pugh
I hear a vote for dashed-case, how about some more votes? —solr-update-url versus —solrUpdateUrl ? > On Feb 26, 2024, at 7:29 AM, Jason Gerlowski wrote: > > My guess is that "dashed-case" is slightly more common -- at least, > that's my sense from haphazardly checking a few tools I use

Re: Moving to bin/solr start defaulting to SolrCloud mode?

2024-02-26 Thread Arrieta, Alejandro
Hello Eric, 1) The idea here is that when a user run’s “bin/solr start” it fires up an embedded zookeeper. Same behavior as “bin/solr -c” in Solr 9.5.If you have a Zookeeper Ensemble then “bin/solr start -z YOUR_ZK_SETUP” would connect to the external ensemble instead. If Solrcloud is the

Re: MixedCase or dashed-case for long options in Solr CLI?

2024-02-26 Thread Jason Gerlowski
My guess is that "dashed-case" is slightly more common -- at least, that's my sense from haphazardly checking a few tools I use often ("curl", "kubectl", "git", "docker"). But I don't have an opinion as long as we're internally consistent about using one convention or the other. Best, Jason On

Re: Moving to bin/solr start defaulting to SolrCloud mode?

2024-02-26 Thread Jason Gerlowski
Thanks for the link to that 2021 discussion Jan - had forgotten about that. I agree that SIP-14 (or some portion of it) goes a long way towards making SolrCloud (w/ embedded ZK) a more serviceable default. On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 7:14 PM Jan Høydahl wrote: > > Cross referencing earlier