o SVN. This is a purely
mechanical definition. Anything else might involve confusion if a
version number were reused.
I think only the promotion of a release from "alpha" should require a vote.
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process" as a "test build" instead of an "alpha release".
In fact, I'd be +1 to that, given that we have two cases in recent
memory where the artifact was not really even usable as an alpha
release.
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feedback to upgrade the status of the build when appropriate.
I strongly disagree with the idea that we "look bad" when we upgrade
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re, from the framework
we've laid out, I would consider it totally normal for us to change
(upward) the status of a release from test/alpha to beta to GA. In
fact, I might even say that once we verify that a release is not
fundamentally flawed, we should have a mandatory cooling of
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more clear about what we're depending on. I wonder who put that one
up (which appears to have been put up via the Apache mirroring
process) and why it has a timestamp instead of a full release version?
I know that the maven build is just one alternative, so I don't want
to make
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You can download:
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I already read that due to Sun license constraint, you can only use
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description of the view controller's
responsibilities. Then people can make a choice
based on how it works rather than what its called.
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Craig is starting from his knowledge of JSF and proscribing it as a
facility for providing a lot of functionality to Shale.
er... prescribing. Sorry.
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urrent contract now,
and set ourselves up for a more flexible validation approach in the
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Be gentle, I spent all of two minutes thinking that up.
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ÝAnyone have strong feelings about the method name? ÝObviously we
Ýcan't use "validate".
Are we going to make any API additions in 1.3.x or 1.4.x?
For example, Validate includes
ocoon practices, right?
If you have a few minutes to give us a state-of-the-art on it, I'd
appreciate it.
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ty good reason, I guess.
What I'd like to work towards is passing an ActionContext around the
controller and then passing a StrutsContext out to the view.
The StrutsContext would be an "API bean", like the one contemplated here.
*
http://struts.apache.org/api/org/apache/struts/co
" directory?
I had some problems once trying to deploy a simple webapp as a WAR to
Weblogic 6 under Solaris where it couldn't read resources with the
ClassPath loader even though it could read them just fine when I
instaleed the same app in "exploded" form.
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do this? I don't seem to understand where the real SVN repository
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ings there are for all subversion
repositories; it would be kind of nice to segment them by repository
in case different groups had different rules. For now, Struts is the
only project I use Subversion on, so I could probably be safe using
this facility. Are any committers besides Don usi
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However, I personally think that the $Id$ property, at least, would
be reasonably included in any XML file. Almost any text file,
actually, especially if it has a "comment" syntax that allows it to
be included without disrupting the content. I think it comes in
handy to have tha
y.
My instinct is "yes" -- perhaps we could have a "workshop" or
"sandbox" directory parallel to the artifacts. "sandbox" is probably
the best word, since the commons-sandbox model is exactly what I have
in mind.
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http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsRelease125 to indicate that there
isn't going to be a 1.2.5 release? Or should we have a vote on it
even though 1.2.6 is brewing?
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-- the idea that a JAR might
include a catalog config XML in the JAR itself which would somehow
make it more automatically usable. This would let people who really
don't care never even look at the chain-config.xml. Or is that too
much invisibility?
I guess that's enough questions
ld be cool to be able to have a JAR with a
chain config in it that was kind of self-configuring (something like
what Don has recently enabled for other config files), and I wanted
to see if that resonated with anyone else.
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them. Deryl is the only one posting news, but that's
not necessarily surprising. Browsing the CVS repository, I don't see
much other participation from other project members any time recently.
Then also: does strutstestcase *want* to become a Struts subproject?
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from it
without having to simulate an entire Struts installation. (I see
that the "ServletContextSimulator" in StrutsTestCase simply returns
null for an attribute which isn't in the servlet context, which would
be all I needed...)
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e and flexible solution,
like Maven's "preGoal" and "postGoal" definitions which allow you to
add arbitrary goals anywhere. This would be tricky right now because
commands aren't required to have names.
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the form
validated.
You can start experimenting with commons-chain and struts-chain from
CVS Head if you want to see what's going on. You don't have to wait
for Struts 1.3.
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Log:
Add a couple of ways that an Action can delegate its business logic
processing to a Chain (or Command):
* ChainAction - Name of the chain is configured in the element
* DispatchAction - Name of the chain is specified by a request parameter
(analogous to the standard org.a
t the idea of this is simply to minimize the need to write
custom subclasses of ActionMapping. The existing "configured"
(frozen) semantics would continue to apply to this new property.
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talog to
look for the command either one is supposed to execute. A generic
property map would allow the ChainAction to define the name of the
properties it wants for its configuration, rather than requiring that
its ActionConfig implement some specific interface just to get one
more property
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now, so I will have to
sleep on it before I could say just what "write"
type methods I think there would need to be.
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* providing an ActionForm method which returns ActionMessages from a
validation method so we can push ahead on fully deprecating
ActionErrors. (Also 1.3. I'll mention the strategy in another
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My own vote...
Beta. While a number of issues have been reported, my opinion is that
#32490 is enough to preclude GA, since I believe we need to have the
tag libraries in sync for a GA release.
I agree: Beta.
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ActionErrors, actually.)
If it didn't seem strange that it hasn't been done already, I might
have just gone ahead and done it without raising the question -- so
I'm wondering if I'm missing something?
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Maven do everything you wish it would, and like you say, it won't
replace Ant anyway. So I'd be -0 on removing it.
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reasons.
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as the Struts community.
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At 7:38 AM -0600 12/15/04, Joe Germuska wrote:
I've got the code written to support arbitrary properties (the new
'key' attribute in set-property), but just ran out of time to write
a mini Struts App to demonstrate that it actually works.
OK, I felt lame writing the above since I&
and if its
defined, looks up the command and executes it. As with the others,
it would simply do nothing if it saw an ActionMapping with an
undefined value for command.
Because it turns out that the ActionMapping is involved in several
other steps in the process (form population and valid
ke sure to setup the
o.a.c.c.w.ChainListener with the appropriate parameters, and it will
configure the catalog when the webapp starts and it will automatically
be available to any java class using the same class loader (including
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Is there a compelling reason to put specific command implementations
in the core? I kind of feel like it would be nice to feel less bound
to them.
If we do this repackaging, perhaps it would make sense to change the
Java package for these classes. I don't have a strong o
quires you to
override it. Including it instead in a separate JAR means you could
remove one and add in another and still get the auto-config feature.
Does it help to compare it to taglibs, which we are also talking
about removing from the core and including as a separate JAR? You
could even d
I can see) to augment the chain without making at least some changes
to the config file. You'd at least have to be able to get in there
to specify an alternate catalog in which to look up a command, unless
we figured out some way to parameterize it.
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tep forward, not as my ultimate vision for how
things should be, meaning if someone doesn't like a configuration
property name or process, please feel free to discuss/change it.
Awesome, Don! Thanks for a great Christmas present! :-)
Yeah, Don, you rock.
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I do think that Struts shouldn't depend on subprojects.
-1.
core should not depdend on any subprojects I think. Not today, 1st
day or repackaging but eventualy.
I also think subprojects should be set up to depend on a struts.jar
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when the end goal would probably make them obsolete...
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the chains.
This seems as though it would work, and is probably a good way to
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realistically, people
would probably not need a wide variety of resolution strategies, and
would get confused if there were more than one in play...)
Anyway, I'll put my patches in Bugzilla and we can use that to
organize further discussions.
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>Folks,
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>The old Struts web site within the Jakarta site is still hanging
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he answer is also simple. The EL project.xml is
set up correctly:
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While driving back and forth for the holidays, I spent some time
thinking about Struts and the new chain framework. Here are a few
thoughts I had:
* ChainAction should be obsoleted before a 1.3.0 release in favor of
direct handling in the default
example which should support this:
http://struts.apache.org/dtds/tiles-config_1_1.dtd";>
With the correct public ID, Struts will never try to retrieve the DTD
from the internet. Anyplace we aren't doing this we should, so that
would be something to file as a bug.
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Everywhere Struts does a validating parse of an XML document, at
least using Digester, it should have already registered a valid
JAR-based copy of the DTD with Digester. This is definitely set up
correctly in Tiles, but it only
same method structure, then subclasses can achieve the same goals
by extending the classes we end up with without having an abstract
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particularly a distinction between "request" and "session", and in
any case, if they are only strings, then we're not really binding to
the Servlet API.
lass should end up causing all tiles
controllers to be invoked, since it's only a light wrapper around the
behavior from the TilesRequestProcessor. In fact, although I don't
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n, the WebContext interface is fairly innocuous. Perhaps it
makes sense to actually implicitly adopt it as part of the
ActionContext API.
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/chain/apidocs/org/apache/commons/chain/web/WebContext.html
Something to chew on until I get back to working on the conversion.
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drop back and look at the possibility of unit tests
for the various commands -- or if anyone else is interested, please
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so now is a particularly good time to speak up about design choices
and the like...
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"Narrow minds are weapons made for mass destruction" -The Ex
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and have
been removed from RequestUtils. It could probably be deleted or 'svn
move'd to the taglibs side and adjusted to test the methods in their
new class and repository location...
[The plan (yes, I'm volunteering) ]
So, unless someone says something, my plans are as follows:
L
of Maven for Struts right now is that it doesn't "do everything that
the Ant build does." While this is true, it's likely to become less
so if we move the webapps and the Struts site into their own areas of
the SVN repository. If "core" is really just abo
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