Agreed ...
1.7.x - EOL
7.0.x and 7.1.x - mostly similar so if we maintain one, we should maintain
the other.
But I agree that 1 actively developed version (TomEE master/TomEE 9.x) and
1 maintained version (TomEE 8.x) is good.
That'd be my choice.
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On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 7:56 AM David Jencks
wrote:
> Maybe even “Our second release _confirmed_…”…
>
> David Jencks
>
> > On Oct 4, 2021, at 12:33 PM, David Blevins
> wrote:
> >
> >>
ompliant on this one and then release TomEE again so
we have a JDK 17 compatible binary.
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On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 8:59 AM Zowalla, Richard <
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> No problem. If I can help somehow, let me know :)
Yes, I'd like the JAX RS issues to be fixed, because it's a provider
ordering or discovery issue on the client side.
It's taking a bit of time, I'm sorry
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move master to a TomEE maintenance branch and switch master
to jakarta, we can do the relocation in the source itself.
Of course the downside is maintenance cost as we'll have to backport to
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ag EE9 on the
> road to EE10 but never maintain or release it.
>
That's another option yes.
>
> Also not sure about the exact timeline, when we should start to migrate.
>
>
>
>
>
> Am Fr., 1. Okt. 2021 um 13:25 Uhr schrieb Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> jlmonte.
e the cost of maintaining both TomEE 8 and TomEE source tree.
But looks like to do that we end up by duplicating pretty much the entire
TomEE tree but the examples.
Is it worth it?
Should we move master to Jakarta and leave a maintenance branch for TomEE 8?
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Hi all,
We opened some challenges for EE 9 for JPA as an example.
Most of them got accepted so tests are excluded in EE 9.
In EE 8, we run them because they are not excluded but they are failing.
Should we exclude them even though the challenges haven't been opened
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Hi,
Probably more for David, but writing openly so more car learn like me lol
I tried to run the sigests for EE8 and EE9 but I don't seem to be very
successful.
Do you have pointers to help?
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.work/tomee/project?id=8
For TomEE 9 and EE 9, the build just started
Results will be available here https://tck.work/tomee/project?id=17189
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Hi all,
Good progress thanks to some fixes Jon applied.
https://tck.work/tomee/project?id=8
Similar results with JDK 8 / 11 and 17.
I need to compare the failures, but most likely same results.
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On Wed, Sep
work on the proxy issue and a couple of other minor issues but
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On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 8:11 PM Zowalla, Richard <
richard.zowa...@hs-heilbronn.de> wrote:
> Correction:
Hi,
I reverted Johnzon update because it seems that 1.2.11 and onward
introduced a regression.
I'll checkout with Johnzon community but I wanted to see how it looks with
1.2.10
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Unless I'm mistaken I got 8.0.8 signing based on new apache guidelines.
Sha512 is now recommended or required can't recall. So not surprised tomcat
is doing the same
Le jeu. 16 sept. 2021 à 20:54, Jenkins, Rodney J (Rod) <
jenki...@nationwide.com> a écrit :
> David,
>
> From an earlier email:
>
>
Hi all,
Rod reported that we are missing some keys for signature checking of the
binaries.
David, yours isn't the correct one. So maybe you rotated the key to a new
one.
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lt;
> richard.zowa...@hs-heilbronn.de>:
>
> > Can confirm. It is available via the mirrors.
> > DL page now contains the links to 8.0.8
> >
> > Thanks to all :)
> >
> > Am Montag, dem 13.09.2021 um 10:14 +0200 schrieb Jean-Louis Monteiro:
> > >
Should be available soon.
Just pushed
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jlmonte...@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> I'll move the dist today.
> Did it on Friday but forgot the SVN CI .
>
> Am Sonntag, dem 12.09.2021 um 23:19 +0200 schrieb Thomas Andraschko:
> > Hi,
> >
> > is the release already done?
> > the download page still shows 8.0.6
> >
> > Am Do., 9. Sept. 2021 um 11:29 Uhr schrieb Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > jlmonte...@tomit
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On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 3:49 PM Jean-Louis Monteiro
wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> This is a first attempt at a vote for a release of Apache TomEE 8.0.8.
>
> Maven Repo:
> https://repository.apache.o
surprised. Maybe a dependency issue because I got them
100% passing for EE9 with Jonhzon.
JSF, JAXRS, we probably need to have a look if we can fix them.
Servlet, and WebSockets are probably setup issues or Tomcat gaps that got
fixed in Tomcat 10.x
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On Thu, Sep 2, 2021 at 5:31 PM Alex The Rocker wrote:
> Alright so my vote is [+1] non-binding for TomEE 8.0.8 based on my
> tests (I doubt the fix for activemq exception can be in time for
&
Java 16 runtime
> > > * My own test of a JAX-RS end point fails with attached exception stack
> > >
> > > Tested class is AboutService.java (attached too)
> > > Test class which fails is AboutServiceTest (attached too)
> > >
> > > Wi
he.org/jira/browse/TOMEE-2967[TOMEE-2967]
> Translate to Spanish: examples/xa-datasource
> - link:https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMEE-2964[TOMEE-2964]
> Translate to Portuguese: examples/serverless-tomee-webprofile (modifié)
>
(Developers - please review and adjust your tickets if necessary!)
Please VOTE:
[+1] Yes, release it
[+0] Not fussed
[-1] Don't release, there's a showstopper (please specify what the
showstopper is)
Vote will be open for 72 hours.
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Thanks.
I'll put up a vote then
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On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 11:18 AM Thomas Andraschko <
andraschko.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My colleague tested our applications, so +1 from our Side
>
> Big th
Awesome.
Thanks for the feedback Richard and thanks for the huge help in putting
back the build to stable.
Let's wait till Thomas gets a chance to give it a try.
If we don't hear back, then I'll put the vote up before end of the week
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Ok looks like I got to stage a TomEE 8.0.8
@Thomas Andraschko If you want to give it a try
before I put a vote up, that'd be awesome.
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachetomee-1186
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Yes I tried an `mvn clean package -DskipTests` and it worked well.
So maybe a different set of profiles, yes.
I'll need to look at that so we can do a release.
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On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 12:53 PM Zowalla, Ri
symbol: class WebAppBuilder
> [INFO] location: class org.apache.tomee.myfaces.TomEEAnnotationProvider
> [INFO] [ERROR]
> /Users/jlmonteiro/devs/jeanouii/apache/tomee/tomee/tomee-myfaces/src/main/java/org/apache/tomee/myfaces/TomEEAnnotationProvider.java:[41,39]
> cannot find symbol
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Yeah, I can try to do it.
I'll trigger a TCK meanwhile so we know where we are at
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On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 10:42 AM Zowalla, Richard <
richard.zowa...@hs-heilbronn.de> wrote:
> Afaik, I have no righ
Awesome.
Let's see if I can remember how to release this thing unless you want to
give it a try Richard?
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On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 9:33 AM Zowalla, Richard <
richard.zowa...@hs-heilbronn.de> wrote:
>
Hey Thomas, Richard and all,
Sorry, been on holiday as well.
I'm sure we can ignore them and create 2 tickets to make sure we fix them.
Then I can try to do the release or if someone wants to go we can for sure
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PR looks good. Thanks Thomas.
I'll see if I can do a release tomorrow.
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On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 3:12 PM Thomas Andraschko <
andraschko.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Richard,
>
> could you p
Oh yeah, you are correct Richard,
It might be related to issues with paths under windows.
If you have a windows machine and you can have a look, that'd be fantastic.
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On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 9:34 AM Zowalla, Ri
Hi all,
Thanks Richard for the recap.
I just push a small change and revert of JAX Application provider scanning
to see if that is better.
I'll monitor the CI and see how it looks from the MP TCK point of view.
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Hi all,
Just checked the CI and it looks ok
https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Tomee/
Are you up to date with git?
What command are you using?
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On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 8:24 PM Luis Ventocilla wrote:
> Hi everyb
a JAX-RS runtime to automatically
> discover provider classes via mechanisms such as class scanning. A
> JAX-RS implementation that supports automatic discovery of classes MUST
> process only those classes that are annotated with @Provider.
>
This part is also clear. All annotated pro
oints such as /openapi aren't
deployed anymore.
I reverted all the shaded and patching thingy and used regular CXF jars
after rebuilding everything and it fails as well.
I'm going to do a git bysec, rebuild and try to see if I can determine
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EE8 compatible implementation as we have done for TomEE 9
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On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 12:48 PM Zowalla, Richard <
richard.zowa...@hs-heilbronn.de> wrote:
> I pushed a workaround,
Thanks David. Didn't pay attention
Le jeu. 10 juin 2021 à 22:31, David Blevins a
écrit :
> Gentle reminder to avoid cross-posting.
>
>
> -David
>
> On Jun 9, 2021, at 10:13 AM, COURTAULT Francois <
> francois.courta...@thalesgroup.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> So I think we have 2 possibilities:
>
nd it.
org.apache.openejb.server.cxf.rs.DisableTomEEJohnzonTest.client
org.apache.openejb.server.cxf.rs.AppPropertiesPropagationTest.checkStarIsNotAnIssue
We should get back into a green build again. And therefore ready for a
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On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 9:48 AM COURTAULT Francois <
francois.courta...@thalesgroup.com> wrote:
> Hello Jean-Louis,
>
> Thanks for your reply.
> What about my q
add the others
- we need to somehow find a way to release all the other jars, so we can
use EJBContainer, ApplicationComposer, Arquillian with EE 9 and jakarta
namespace
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We are 2 failures away from green now.
One of them is a system property to disable Johnzon on the client side
which is not supported anymore.
The other one, I need to look at it
I'm trying to get some TCK results
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nd created a shaded version.
Did a bit of cleanup in dependencies.
Fixed WebSocket issues.
We might still have some issues pending but I'd like to see the TCK results
at this point.
Any issue?
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On Fri, Jun 4,
as the test passes locally.
>
> Gruss
> Richard
>
>
> [1]
>
> https://github.com/apache/tomee/commit/8dd89daec484a84b2dd8e0f97a29f87a4d4fd3a4
> [2] https://github.com/jeanouii/tomee/pull/4
>
> Am Mittwoch, den 02.06.2021, 15:58 +0200 schrieb Jean-Louis Monteiro:
> >
>
[image: image.png]
The 2 first and the last one.
Trying to understand the async-servlet related issues. For the 2 last
cxf-rs, I'd need David's input
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On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 9:56 AM Zowall
help from David who worked quite heavily on CXF so I don't
have to pay that same cost.
https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Tomee/job/pull-request/lastBuild/testReport/
I'm trying to address the websocket failures but any help is welcome as
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On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 9:55 AM Zowalla, Richard <
richard.zowa...@hs-heilbronn.de> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I took a quick look at our failing openejb-core tests. Most of them
> seem to fail due to th
Well done guys
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On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 11:36 PM Cesar Hernandez
wrote:
> Nice work David and Richard!
> As of today, the page shows 100+ contributors :)
>
>
> El vie, 21 may 2021 a las 22:22
I think it has to do with "minimal and iterate slowly".
Also like the new design. Quite refreshing and on time with the compatible
part we just accomplished.
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Thanks David - looks like good timing for upcoming 8.0.x maintenance
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On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 7:17 PM David Blevins
wrote:
> > On May 10, 2021, at 3:50 PM, David Blevins
> wrote:
> >
> >
Great work David.
That's definitely good for visibility.
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On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 1:12 AM David Blevins
wrote:
> > On May 18, 2021, at 10:31 AM, David Blevins
> wrote:
> >
> > - Draft
1.
2. org.apache.maven.plugins
3. maven-release-plugin
4. 3.0.0-M4
5.
6. tomee-@{project.version}
7.
8.
This should do the trick
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On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 5:36 PM Jean-Louis Monteiro
I think this is by default the artifact id or the parent project.
But it's something we can change in the release plugin.
https://maven.apache.org/maven-release/maven-release-plugin/examples/prepare-release.html
*"Overriding the default tag name format"*
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All fixed now!
We can get back to fixing the master after TCK work
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On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 7:49 PM Zowalla, Richard <
richard.zowa...@hs-heilbronn.de> wrote:
> We re-created some (newer) PRs, which were
If people used a branch, you can re-create the PR like this
[image: image.png]
Click on the branch link. Then create the pull request. I'll do this one as
an example.
https://github.com/apache/tomee/pull/791
What other PR do you have to restore?
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Got some time to give it a try. No other comment.
+1
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On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 12:14 PM Mark Struberg
wrote:
> +1
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
> > Am 03.05.2021 um 17:01 schrieb David Ble
Thanks for the feedback though and for the time spent on testing.
It's definitely useful feedback for next release
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On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 9:06 PM Alex The Rocker wrote:
> Okay I understand that 8.0.
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On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 7:56 PM Cesar Hernandez wrote:
> +1 (binding)
> We can add a Note in the download section for TomEE 8.0.7 and in parallel
> working on the fixes to then release 8.0.8. We
time, work and energy
the community spent to implement missing pieces, and pass the TCK.
Here is my +1.
Thanks everyone for the work, tests, moral support.
Thanks David for the hours and fights you put on this release.
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On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 10:58 AM Pramod (Jira) wrote:
>
> [
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMEE-3725?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=173
Done. I'll monitor the publish and fire a new TCK
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On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 11:25 PM David Blevins
wrote:
> I say merge it and let's see what the TCK says.
>
>
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>
eed to circle
back, write down a lot of tests and rework some parts.
Still feedback is welcome.
That should bring us to one single
failure com.sun.ts.tests.securityapi.idstore.idstorepermission.Client
In essence this is a policy configuration in catalina.properties.
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Agreed with all
Le dim. 18 avr. 2021 à 21:37, Mark Struberg a
écrit :
> yup, the webapp was always kind of a a half baked solution imo.
> When you just need CDI, then one can use OWB natively in the app on an
> unmodified Tomcat.
> If one needs the fully blown EE features, then TomEE is a perfec
ee if I can finish the Security implementation over the next few days.
We have a feature gap in there but the wiring in TomEE is probably more
tricky than other things.
Very happy with the progress made.
We can do it.
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still welcome.
If you feel you want to be part of the fun Let us know we can help you
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Might be an outdated snapshot because I don't seem to reproduce locally and
I'm up to date
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On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 8:43 PM Jean-Louis Monteiro <
jlmonte...@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> Ok looks
Ok looks like we are back to normal. Everything is working so far. Bad news
is that I have no idea what really fixed the problem.
But we are having a lot of NoSuchMethodError with OpenWebBeans
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On Mon, Mar 29, 2021
me-9.0.0-M7-SNAPSHOT/lib/tomee-webservices-8.0.7-20210327.040612-103.jar
>
If someone can look at it, or I'll have a look today
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On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 5:05 AM David Blevins
wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> So
a TCK build.
I'm overall fine with the approach. Sounds like a good compromise to avoid
big maintenance costs without blocking us too much on the Jakarta EE 9 and
forward.
We'll see over time if we can improve, but it looks like a good starting
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Hi Bruno,
I think Richard worked on it.
Not sure about the status, but as far as I can recall, he created a ticket
(TomEE-2966: JUnit5 OpenEJB Extension Module) and a PR for it.
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On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 8:11 PM
Hi Thiago,
I had that in my todo list but did not get a chance to start filling the
CSR for individual tools like Johnzon for JSONP and JSONB, etc
Haven't got any time yet.
But you are correct, we could do individually and at the end for TomEE
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If we don't want to maintain both quite yet, we need to still improve what
we have.
Back to you email because I see some common ideas and possible options.
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On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 2:05 AM David Blev
I agree.
Would be awesome to have something more stable. It's better than it was.
But still some work to do.
Le ven. 5 févr. 2021 à 19:55, Zowalla, Richard <
richard.zowa...@hs-heilbronn.de> a écrit :
> Hi Cesar,
>
> would be very much appreciated, I guess.
>
> I noticed, that the PR jenkins job
maybe.
-
- com.sun.ts.tests.ejb30.lite.packaging.war.datasource.singleton.Client
- Same as previous
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to TomEE 9.x so we have minimal changes between the 2 and we
don't spread our effort on multiple source trees.
What do you think?
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don't duplicate the
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On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 4:35 PM Jean-Louis Monteiro <
jlmonte...@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> https://tck.work/tomee/build?id=1608726402626
>
> Boom, JSTL 1 failure a
Thanks Jon.
Good job.
I realized TomEE Master is still 8.0.6-SNAPSHOT
https://github.com/apache/tomee/blob/master/pom.xml
Maybe push did not happen after release prepare/perform?
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On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 7:58 PM
https://tck.work/tomee/build?id=1610964398253
100% green on EJB32 !!!
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On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 4:18 PM Jonathan Gallimore <
jonathan.gallim...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Fantastic - thank you!
>
> On Fri,
Went ahead and merged this PR and marked the jira as being resolved. I'm
waiting for the build to finish and I'll fire a new TCK run over the
weekend maybe so we can validate if it fixed or not the issue.
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That's awesome to see so many people and users giving feedback and voting.
This is critical for the project and good overall.
Thanks Jon, here is my +1.
Tested on many TCK tests
RAT checked
License and notice checked
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Do you know if it's fixed by the current master?
Just want to make sure it's fixed lol
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On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 10:58 PM exabrial12 wrote:
> We've been have some applications in prod OOME. I t
Now that TCKs are public (Welcome Jakarta), this repo turned public and we
should attach it to TomEE group in my opinion.
Meanwhile, I'll merge it for you.
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On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 11:01 AM Zowall
Good updates
I approved it but did not merge.
Can you go ahead and see if you can merge?
You should now be able to click the merge button, even on this repo.
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On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 10:24 AM Zowalla, Richard
Here is the PR https://github.com/apache/tomee/pull/749
I'm building locally and I'll run the EJB32 related tests locally first
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n order to set a valid end date to restart a server.
In that case, we are expecting the server to successfully start, but the
timer to never trigger.
I'll create a PR so you can double check before I merge it.
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r enables assistance with the management and
to guide the direction of the project.
Please join me and send him a warm welcome and thank you.
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Hi Cesar,
Thanks for the heads up and the details.
It looks good. I have reviewed the 2 PRs and approved them. Feel free to
merge.
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On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 5:23 AM Cesar Hernandez wrote:
> Hi Jean-Louis
>
Go for it
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On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 2:15 PM Jonathan Gallimore <
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> Hi All,
>
> Any objections if I kick off a 8.0.6 release? I think there are some
> dependen
e you and help.
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On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 11:33 PM Thiago Henrique Hupner
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> Hi all!
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> So, I couldn't take a look at the TomEE for a while.
> From what I recall I couldn't get any fur
Hey Thiago,
Happy new year.
Wanted to check if you got any change to move something forward, or if you
need something from us?
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On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 6:51 PM Jean-Louis Monteiro <
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https://tck.work/tomee/build?id=1608726402626
Boom, JSTL 1 failure and JSONP 0 failure.
We are down to 209 failures
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On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 10:34 AM Jean-Louis Monteiro <
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&g
the Quartz upgrade, I'll see if I can address the EJB32 issue
with the endDate prior to startDate (see related thread).
I'll fire up a new build when I have figured out the JSTL issue so we also
have a JSONP green bar ;-)
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j, dh ...).
it gives the ports you can connect to.
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On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 6:04 PM Thiago Henrique Hupner
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> Well, the AnnotationDeployer does in fact run on servlet classes, however
> it doesn't proc
too many things
A solution would be to fork it in TomEE TCK and clean it up so we can
support all deployment descriptors for EAR, WAR packagings.
We would use the TCK specific version to deploy and configure (finer).
What do you think?
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here
https://github.com/apache/tomee/blob/master/container/openejb-jee/src/main/java/org/apache/openejb/jee/oejb3/RoleMapping.java
Small trick to solve, for glassfish the mapping is done from servlet name
to principal.
For OpenEJB/TomEE the mapping is done from role to principal
Hope it helps
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nder discussion
If someone wants to take the RunAs, it's an easy one to do. I can provide
some guidance.
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dback, but I don't want to mess with the results artificially.
Have a good weekend and thanks
Great community effort.
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On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 3:12 PM Jean-Louis Monteiro <
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On the TCK thing, I just sent a status, hopefully it helps.
For the mailing lists. I'll gather that for you and let you know
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