Re: [dev-context] [MacTeX] Context Problem?

2017-05-04 Thread Norbert Preining
> \setupbodyfont[lucida-ot] Thanks Hans for the quick clarification. Norbert -- PREINING Norbert http://www.preining.info Accelia Inc. +JAIST +TeX Live +Debian Developer GPG: 0x860CDC13 fp: F7D8 A928 26E3 16A1 9FA0 ACF0 6CAC A448 860C D

Re: [dev-context] [MacTeX] Context Problem?

2017-05-04 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi ConteXt people, here a problem report from Herbert on MacOS, but it is the same on Linux in tlpretest. Thanks Norbert On Wed, 03 May 2017, Herbert Schulz wrote: > Howdy, > > I know virtually nothing about ConTeXt but have a few very simple test files > that I picked up from who knows

Re: [dev-context] internal mptopdf not found in Context MkIV 2013.04.20

2013-07-02 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi everyone, On So, 30 Jun 2013, Sanjoy Mahajan wrote: I don't know whether it is a Debian-specific problem or shared with upstream, hence I am also sending this to dev-context. I just updated Debian's context to the latest version in TeX Live, and I also get an error (see below) There seems

Re: [dev-context] [luatex] Luatex 0.74.0 announcement - warning

2012-12-24 Thread Norbert Preining
Norbert Preiningpreining@{jaist.ac.jp, logic.at, debian.org} JAIST, Japan TeX Live Debian Developer DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094

Re: [dev-context] [Dev-luatex] [luatex] Luatex 0.74.0 announcement - warning

2012-12-24 Thread Norbert Preining
Norbert Preiningpreining@{jaist.ac.jp, logic.at, debian.org} JAIST, Japan TeX Live Debian Developer DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094

Re: [dev-context] [Dev-luatex] new luatex for Debian

2012-05-24 Thread Norbert Preining
). PS: you don't need local texmflocal = /usr/local/share/texmf; I know, was a left over. Best wishes Norbert Norbert Preiningpreining@{jaist.ac.jp, logic.at, debian.org} JAIST, Japan

Re: [dev-context] [Dev-luatex] new luatex for Debian

2012-05-23 Thread Norbert Preining
Norbert Preiningpreining@{jaist.ac.jp, logic.at, debian.org} JAIST, Japan TeX Live Debian Developer DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094

[dev-context] debugging mtxrun

2012-05-22 Thread Norbert Preining
before freeze. Best wishes Norbert Norbert Preiningpreining@{jaist.ac.jp, logic.at, debian.org} JAIST, Japan TeX Live Debian Developer DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D

Re: [dev-context] TLContrib is ready for testing

2010-10-05 Thread Norbert Preining
their way within a few days into TeX Live proper, if the license is ok. Best wishes Norbert Norbert Preiningprein...@{jaist.ac.jp, logic.at, debian.org} JAIST, Japan TeX Live

Re: [dev-context] Versioning system for modules

2010-03-11 Thread Norbert Preining
, too complicated) Too much Sake? Too much wine? ;-) Even after some glasses of Sake おやすみなさい ノルベルト Norbert Preiningprein...@{jaist.ac.jp, logic.at, debian.org} JAIST, JapanTU Wien, Austria

Re: [dev-context] [Dev-luatex] Luatex 0.50.0 announcement

2009-12-25 Thread Norbert Preining
Norbert Preiningprein...@{jaist.ac.jp, logic.at, debian.org} JAIST, JapanTU Wien, Austria Debian TeX Task Force DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094

Re: [dev-context] [Dev-luatex] luatex beta 0.40.4

2009-06-09 Thread Norbert Preining
--- Dr. Norbert Preining prein...@logic.atVienna University of Technology Debian Developer prein...@debian.org Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094

Re: [dev-context] [luatex] luatex beta 0.40.0

2009-04-27 Thread Norbert Preining
. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining prein...@logic.atVienna University of Technology Debian Developer prein...@debian.org Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C

Re: [dev-context] [luatex] luatex beta 0.35.0

2009-03-10 Thread Norbert Preining
. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining prein...@logic.atVienna University of Technology Debian Developer prein...@debian.org Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C

Re: [dev-context] new context and luatex packages for Debian

2008-12-01 Thread Norbert Preining
tests, much appreciated. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094

Re: [dev-context] new context and luatex packages for Debian

2008-12-01 Thread Norbert Preining
--- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094

Re: [dev-context] new context and luatex packages for Debian

2008-12-01 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mo, 01 Dez 2008, Taco Hoekwater wrote: texexec --passon='-recorder' (but it doesn't list ruby files) Great to hear, thanks. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University

[dev-context] new context and luatex packages for Debian

2008-11-28 Thread Norbert Preining
/~preining/TeX/ luatex-sid/ Version: luatex 0.30.3, context 2008.10.31 Any comments are appreciated. I hope to get the MarkIV stuff sorted out sooner or later... Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [dev-context] [Dev-luatex] Luatex beta 0.30.0 released

2008-09-30 Thread Norbert Preining
(zlib/zlib.h) +AC_INIT(lua51/lapi.h) AC_CONFIG_AUX_DIR(../config) AC_PROG_MAKE_SET Currently building Debian packages, will soon be available. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [dev-context] [Dev-luatex] Luatex beta 0.30.0 released

2008-09-30 Thread Norbert Preining
that, because ubuntu takes my packages from Debian, and I never did that). So thanks for the useless contribution. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian

Re: [dev-context] [Dev-luatex] Luatex beta 0.30.0 released

2008-09-30 Thread Norbert Preining
On Di, 30 Sep 2008, Norbert Preining wrote: Currently building Debian packages, will soon be available. luatex packages for Debian sid are now available from deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex-sid/ deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex-sid/ I

Re: [dev-context] [Dev-luatex] Luatex beta 0.30.0 released

2008-09-30 Thread Norbert Preining
--- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094

[dev-context] Debian TeX packages for Etch now on backports.org

2008-08-03 Thread Norbert Preining
the other archs, too. I hope that this service integrates better into the normal backport world most people are using. If you have any questions, just let me know. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL

Re: [dev-context] context program, mtxrun question?

2008-05-19 Thread Norbert Preining
mktexlsr. Please do NOT reinvent the wheel formed like a rectangle... see my other email. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer [EMAIL

Re: [dev-context] context program, mtxrun question?

2008-05-19 Thread Norbert Preining
Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0

Re: [dev-context] context program, mtxrun question?

2008-05-19 Thread Norbert Preining
will have exactely the same approach on all platforms, including the same scripts (updmap-sys vs updmap, ...) Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian

Re: [dev-context] context program, mtxrun question?

2008-05-19 Thread Norbert Preining
--- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094

[dev-context] (fwd) Bug#480725: mptopdf does not work with beginfig(-1)

2008-05-13 Thread Norbert Preining
--- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF

[dev-context] Debian luatex and context

2008-04-18 Thread Norbert Preining
with my test cases and context/luatex according to README.MarkIV in the Debian package. Next release of TeX Live packages will PROBABLY contain updates to xetex/xdvipdfmx. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining

Re: [dev-context] New context release

2008-04-17 Thread Norbert Preining
will not have the chance to get fixes for stupid bugs that creeped in into lenny. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [dev-context] New context release

2008-04-16 Thread Norbert Preining
--- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094

Re: [dev-context] New context release

2008-04-16 Thread Norbert Preining
for the information Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF

Re: [dev-context] New context release

2008-04-16 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mi, 16 Apr 2008, Norbert Preining wrote: - for context/luatex: ok with old and new ones - for context/xetex: new ones are necessary Ok, I will think about updating the lmodern fonts, too, but renaming the Hmm, according to Ralf updating the lmodern is a no-go because that would need euenc

Re: [dev-context] New context release

2008-04-16 Thread Norbert Preining
--- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094

Re: [dev-context] New context release

2008-04-16 Thread Norbert Preining
--- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094

[dev-context] problem with new context and old pdftex

2008-04-15 Thread Norbert Preining
(context 2008.01.14 or so) without any problems. Am I missing something in the installation? Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer [EMAIL

Re: [dev-context] problem with new context and old pdftex

2008-04-15 Thread Norbert Preining
. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094

Re: [dev-context] problem with new context and old pdftex

2008-04-15 Thread Norbert Preining
will ship context 2008.04.11 with this bug, since I cannot expect people to fix their documents for a specific version. So I will wait before making new packages. Thanks and all the best Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining

[dev-context] New Debian packages (luatex, context) for Etch

2008-02-21 Thread Norbert Preining
) deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex-sid/ deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex-sid/ Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University

Re: [dev-context] New Debian TeX packages for Etch

2007-11-05 Thread Norbert Preining
/package but can be linked into /usr/share/doc/texmf/ which in turn is linked from /usr/share/texmf/doc/ so that texdoc finds the stuff. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [dev-context] Bug#447559: chemtex is broken again

2007-10-22 Thread Norbert Preining
\complexstartchemical[#1]% -- no debconf information Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED

[dev-context] compiling luatexref-t.tex

2007-10-04 Thread Norbert Preining
wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D

Re: [dev-context] integrating context mkiv, luatex, and fmtutil, mktexlsr, etc

2007-10-03 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Hans, hi all, On Mi, 03 Okt 2007, Hans Hagen wrote: Norbert Preining wrote: $ENGINE -ini -jobname=cont-en -progname=context -8bit *cont-en.ini [...] that won't work because luatex by itself cannot take care of the stubs it may need for starting up (how could it know -) making

Re: [dev-context] Call for test documents

2007-10-03 Thread Norbert Preining
On Di, 02 Okt 2007, Hans Hagen wrote: http://context.aanhet.net/svn/manuals/ Is there svn access? I have a checkout (very old) but the svn address has changed. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL

Re: [dev-context] [NTG-context] Call for test documents

2007-10-03 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mi, 03 Okt 2007, Taco Hoekwater wrote: svn://83.247.100.17:33690/manuals Thanks, worked. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer

Re: [dev-context] integrating context mkiv, luatex, and fmtutil, mktexlsr, etc

2007-10-03 Thread Norbert Preining
wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D

[dev-context] missing stubs in latest release

2007-08-14 Thread Norbert Preining
didn't find on the Wiki...) - does it make sense to package it now or wait for some more iterations? Thanks a lot and all the best Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology

Re: [dev-context] missing stubs in latest release

2007-08-14 Thread Norbert Preining
it violates the rights of urw++... anyway, time will show ... Again, thanks, I hope that I can upload a package next week. Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian

Re: [dev-context] missing stubs in latest release

2007-08-14 Thread Norbert Preining
the original authors of the GYre fonts nor the representatives of the user groups see this problem as a problem ... Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian

[dev-context] test versions of context

2007-08-14 Thread Norbert Preining
could test luatex/context combination, that would be great. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [dev-context] missing stubs in latest release

2007-08-14 Thread Norbert Preining
--- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094

Re: [dev-context] New location of Debian TeX packages for Etch

2007-05-15 Thread Norbert Preining
/~preining/TeX/ context/ Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Università di Siena Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094

[dev-context] Debian ConTeXt packages 2007.03.19, Debian TeX Live 2007

2007-03-21 Thread Norbert Preining
new binary packages (texlive-xetex, -humanities, -science). Please give it a twist, please report anything strange. Thanks for testing! Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED

[dev-context] Debian ConTeXt packages 2007.02.21

2007-02-27 Thread Norbert Preining
ConTeXt release 2007.02.21 is there ... On Son, 25 Feb 2007, Norbert Preining wrote: deb http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ context/ deb-src http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ context/ BUT!!! You need the new lmodern 1.01 Debian package for this: deb http://www.tug.org

[dev-context] Debian ConTeXt packages 2007.02.20

2007-02-25 Thread Norbert Preining
know! Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Università di Siena Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF

Re: [dev-context] [NTG-context] ConTeXt release 2007.02.20 (fwd)

2007-02-22 Thread Norbert Preining
--- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Università di Siena Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094

Re: [dev-context] [Fwd: Re: Debian Context Font problems]

2007-02-12 Thread Norbert Preining
hinting (so called blue zones). But in order to check it thoroughly I need a better controlled example. If you tell me what to test, I can do it ... Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [dev-context] [Fwd: Re: Debian Context Font problems]

2007-02-12 Thread Norbert Preining
and with t1lib rasterizer it does work without problems. As soon as you disable t1lib and use freetype rasterizer it is getting bad... Ciao Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Università

Re: [dev-context] [Fwd: Re: Debian Context Font problems]

2007-02-10 Thread Norbert Preining
--- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Università di Siena Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094

Re: [dev-context] Debian Context Font problems

2007-02-07 Thread Norbert Preining
couldn't find any unusual thing in the Document Properties etc. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Università di Siena Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [dev-context] [Fwd: Re: Debian Context Font problems]

2007-02-07 Thread Norbert Preining
--- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Università di Siena Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094

Re: [dev-context] [Fwd: Re: Debian Context Font problems]

2007-02-07 Thread Norbert Preining
4 shrink-factors. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Università di Siena Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094

Re: [dev-context] Debian Context Font problems

2007-02-06 Thread Norbert Preining
/enc/dvips/lm/lm-ec.enc 4905f240aafb4857b3a5389baeaff681 /usr/share/texmf/fonts/type1/public/lm/lmr12.pfb Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Università di Siena Debian

[dev-context] (fwd) Bug#409749: ppchtex broken

2007-02-05 Thread Norbert Preining
--- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Università di Siena Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094

[dev-context] texexec and return value

2007-02-05 Thread Norbert Preining
and all the best Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Università di Siena Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307

Re: [dev-context] New Debian packages

2007-02-02 Thread Norbert Preining
late ... you can always get it at tug.org Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Università di Siena Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group

Re: [dev-context] garden: new ConTeXt?

2007-01-25 Thread Norbert Preining
made it into etch! No, the options are: - etch - or TL2007 from the iso image, but without package managing and with no updates to context. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [dev-context] New Debian packages

2007-01-23 Thread Norbert Preining
?! If you don't want to include it into official versions, could you at least provide a hint what to add/patch so that it uses the cm fonts for math ...? Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED

[dev-context] Bug report

2007-01-23 Thread Norbert Preining
--- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Università di Siena Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094

Re: [dev-context] engine setting in context/texexec

2007-01-10 Thread Norbert Preining
for Debian to make them work with current texlive. I will see how it works. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Università di Siena Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [dev-context] [NTG-context] debian context updates

2007-01-03 Thread Norbert Preining
showcase/show-not.pdf.gz roadmap.pdf.gz Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Università di Siena Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group

Re: [dev-context] debian package on contextgarden.net

2006-12-22 Thread Norbert Preining
get a bit of testing for the context package (the unofficial context, not the current texlive-context which comes from TeX Live 2005) that would be great. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED