Re: Intent to implement HTMLMediaElement.srcObject partially

2015-07-15 Thread Jan-Ivar Bruaroey
On 7/15/15 9:28 PM, jyaven...@mozilla.com wrote: I need to complete bug 886194 then (that add MSE supports). Yes, or at least rename the subject slightly. ;) PS: We have the same first name in different language. awesome. Hey, that's rare for us! .: Jan-Ivar :.

Unprefixed CSS and DOM properties (across browser vendors)

2015-07-15 Thread Karl Dubost
Hello, (mostly for people of DOM and CSS) tl;dr: A list of unprefixed properties where the prefixed version has been dropped. Context: A feature has 4 states (or at least my impression): 1. No support 2. prefixed only support (MozFoo and -moz-bar) 3. prefixed and unprefixed support (MozFoo,

Re: Proposal to remove `aFoo` prescription from the Mozilla style guide for C and C++

2015-07-15 Thread Thomas Zimmermann
Hi Am 16.07.2015 um 00:47 schrieb Jeff Gilbert: On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 7:55 AM, Thomas Zimmermann tzimmerm...@mozilla.com mailto:tzimmerm...@mozilla.com wrote: The discussion has a number of good points in favor of using 'a', but I missed convincing arguments in favor of not

Re: Intent to implement HTMLMediaElement.srcObject partially

2015-07-15 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 7/15/15 3:42 PM, Jan-Ivar Bruaroey wrote: This means it will support get/set of: MediaStream objects. This means it will throw TypeError on set of: MediaSource objects, Blob objects, and File objects, for now. Jan-Ivar, Do you happen to know whether other UAs support this unprefixed and

Re: Intent to implement HTMLMediaElement.srcObject partially

2015-07-15 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Jan-Ivar Bruaroey j...@mozilla.com wrote: This means it will throw TypeError on set of: MediaSource objects, Blob objects, and File objects, for now. For what it's worth, I think implementing Blob/File support would be quite trivial. Just make elem.srcObject =

Re: Intent to implement HTMLMediaElement.srcObject partially

2015-07-15 Thread smaug
On 07/15/2015 10:42 PM, Jan-Ivar Bruaroey wrote: Hi, We intend to un-prefix HTMLMediaElement.srcObject (it currently exists as HTMLMediaElement.mozSrcObject), even though it only supports a subset of the types mandated in the spec. [1] It is a bit unfortunate to expose the property without

Re: Intent to implement HTMLMediaElement.srcObject partially

2015-07-15 Thread jyavenard
On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 5:42:39 AM UTC+10, Jan-Ivar Bruaroey wrote: Hi, We intend to un-prefix HTMLMediaElement.srcObject (it currently exists as HTMLMediaElement.mozSrcObject), even though it only supports a subset of the types mandated in the spec. [1] This means it will support

Re: Intent to implement W3C Manifest for web application

2015-07-15 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 8:15 AM, mar...@marcosc.com wrote: 1. Enhance browser tiles: many sites have nice logos/icons, and they have an application-name. I want to show the application-name and icon or logo them in tiles in the new tab page. This seems possible using meta

Re: Intent to implement W3C Manifest for web application

2015-07-15 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 3:00 PM, mar...@marcosc.com wrote: Some of the things raised: * It's not clear what problems manifest solves: do we really want to replicate native app installation behavior on the Web? We don't have a good history of making this work in various products. *

Re: Intent to implement W3C Manifest for web application

2015-07-15 Thread Benjamin Francis
On 15 July 2015 at 10:42, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: But it'd be *really* nice to get rid of features that are there specifically to migrate users away from the web and to native Android and iOS apps. If google/apple wants to implement that then that's fine with me, it's their

Re: Intent to implement W3C Manifest for web application

2015-07-15 Thread Benjamin Francis
On 15 July 2015 at 10:42, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: I also think that display-mode and orientation (and maybe theme_color) properties seem to make much less sense given the current model of manifests. That seems like information that we'd want to apply during normal browsing too,

API documentation/evangelism/development teams meeting Thursday at 8 AM PDT

2015-07-15 Thread Eric Shepherd
The Web API documentation community meeting, with representatives from the technical evangelism and the API development teams, will take place on Thursday at 8 AM Pacific Time (see http://bit.ly/1GghwBR for your time zone). Typical meetings include news about recent API development progress and

Intent to implement HTMLMediaElement.srcObject partially

2015-07-15 Thread Jan-Ivar Bruaroey
Hi, We intend to un-prefix HTMLMediaElement.srcObject (it currently exists as HTMLMediaElement.mozSrcObject), even though it only supports a subset of the types mandated in the spec. [1] This means it will support get/set of: MediaStream objects. This means it will throw TypeError on set

Re: Summary of e10s performance (Talos + Telemetry + crash-stats)

2015-07-15 Thread Benoit Girard
For the e10s talos regressions see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1174776 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1184277. We've already diagnose one source of the regression to be a difference with GC/CC behavior when running e10s talos. On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 5:44 PM,

Re: Intent to implement W3C Manifest for web application

2015-07-15 Thread Martin Thomson
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 4:12 AM, mar...@marcosc.com wrote: some people believe that web applications should be installable I don't subscribe to that theory. The web is comprised of pages, not apps. (I mostly agree with Alex, but not regarding the perceived need for app discoverability; I hear

Re: Switch to Google C++ Style Wholesale (was Re: Proposal to remove `aFoo` prescription from the Mozilla style guide for C and C++)

2015-07-15 Thread Jeff Gilbert
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 9:17 PM, Nicholas Nethercote n.netherc...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 8:06 PM, Bobby Holley bobbyhol...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not wild about this idea. It's such a boil-the-ocean solution I honestly thought bsmedberg was joking at first... Well

Re: Switch to Google C++ Style Wholesale (was Re: Proposal to remove `aFoo` prescription from the Mozilla style guide for C and C++)

2015-07-15 Thread Gregory Szorc
The public source code for Firefox has existed for 17+ years (since ~April 1998). We can only assume it will be around for another 10+ years. I believe you have to take the long view on the cost benefit analysis and realize that a lot of pain in the short term (e.g. switching styles entirely)

Re: Intent to implement W3C Manifest for web application

2015-07-15 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 4:54 AM, Martin Thomson m...@mozilla.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 4:12 AM, mar...@marcosc.com wrote: some people believe that web applications should be installable I don't subscribe to that theory. The web is comprised of pages, not apps. (I mostly agree

Re: Switch to Google C++ Style Wholesale (was Re: Proposal to remove `aFoo` prescription from the Mozilla style guide for C and C++)

2015-07-15 Thread Benjamin Smedberg
On 7/15/2015 5:47 PM, Andrew Sutherland wrote: Would it be crazy for us to resort to a poll on these things? A poll will not be useful for informing this decision. --BDS ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org

Re: Intent to implement HTMLMediaElement.srcObject partially

2015-07-15 Thread Robert O'Callahan
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Re: Switch to Google C++ Style Wholesale (was Re: Proposal to remove `aFoo` prescription from the Mozilla style guide for C and C++)

2015-07-15 Thread Bobby Holley
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Gregory Szorc g...@mozilla.com wrote: The public source code for Firefox has existed for 17+ years (since ~April 1998). We can only assume it will be around for another 10+ years. I believe you have to take the long view on the cost benefit analysis and

Re: Switch to Google C++ Style Wholesale (was Re: Proposal to remove `aFoo` prescription from the Mozilla style guide for C and C++)

2015-07-15 Thread Andrew Sutherland
Would it be crazy for us to resort to a poll on these things? I propose abusing the mozillans.org skills field in profiles. For example, I have created the following sets of skills on mozillians.org by question, and which should autocomplete if you go to the edit page for your profile at

Re: Intent to implement W3C Manifest for web application

2015-07-15 Thread marcos
On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 3:34:42 PM UTC+10, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:00 AM, mar...@marcosc.com wrote: * It's not clear what problems manifest solves This is by far the biggest problem. I think we ended up with manifests because packages have manifests and

Re: Intent to implement W3C Manifest for web application

2015-07-15 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 1:12 PM, mar...@marcosc.com wrote: Do we even agree on the above? I agree with some of it... But, I don't really see the point of trying to merge web and native (other than turning the browser into the OS). And I really don't see the point of trying to play by native's

Re: Intent to ship Service Worker Notification API

2015-07-15 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
Yes, please! On 2015-07-14 3:22 PM, nsm.nik...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Target release: Firefox 42 Implementation and shipping bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=1114554 Specification: https://notifications.spec.whatwg.org/#service-worker-api This is a follow up to the