Re: Intent to implement: nsIDOMMozIccManager.getCardLockRetryCount

2013-06-26 Thread Mounir Lamouri
Hi Thomas, MozICCManager is an API available only for built-in applications on Firefox OS so it is fine to change it as much as you want. -- Mounir On 25/06/13 17:11, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: Hi, I intent to implement an extension to nsIDOMMozICCManager. When unlocking a SIM card, there

Re: Making proposal for API exposure official

2013-06-26 Thread Mounir Lamouri
On 25/06/13 17:28, Robert O'Callahan wrote: On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Mounir Lamouri mou...@lamouri.fr wrote: 3. APIs solving use cases which no browser vendor shipping an engine other Gecko is interested in at that time. In cases such as this, Mozilla will solicit feedback from as

Re: Making proposal for API exposure official

2013-06-26 Thread Andrew Overholt
On 24/06/13 01:50 PM, Kyle Huey wrote: 1. at least one other browser vendor ships -- or publicly states their intention to ship -- a compatible implementation of this API Because Apple and Microsoft generally do not publicly comment on upcoming features, and Presto is no more, in practice this

Re: Making proposal for API exposure official

2013-06-26 Thread Andrew Overholt
On 24/06/13 05:52 PM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: There are two things that I think can use clarification. One is what we're going to do about trivial changes? Do all web facing features ned to go through this process? I was going to put a blurb about trivial changes but thought it would be too

Re: Making proposal for API exposure official

2013-06-26 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
On 2013-06-26 11:11 AM, Andrew Overholt wrote: 5. Once one week has passed [...] This seems unnecessarily heavy-handed to me. Agreed so I'll remove it. I'm actually thinking we still have the email request but only to inform those who are interested in the feature landing but haven't been

Re: Making proposal for API exposure official

2013-06-26 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
On 2013-06-26 11:21 AM, Andrew Overholt wrote: On 24/06/13 05:52 PM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: There are two things that I think can use clarification. One is what we're going to do about trivial changes? Do all web facing features ned to go through this process? I was going to put a blurb about

Re: Making proposal for API exposure official

2013-06-26 Thread Kyle Huey
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Ehsan Akhgari ehsan.akhg...@gmail.comwrote: The other question is, what we're going to do about negative feedback from the API review phase but where the feedback cannot be incorporated because of other concerns? I was thinking the module owner (or I guess

Re: Making proposal for API exposure official

2013-06-26 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
On 2013-06-26 9:09 AM, Robert O'Callahan wrote: On Google's side, it is harder to find examples because I do not follow that as closely but requestAutocomplete() is an example of an API that Mozilla might not look at for quite some time. If we think these use cases are (or ever will be)

Re: Making proposal for API exposure official

2013-06-26 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
On 2013-06-26 11:50 AM, Kyle Huey wrote: On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Ehsan Akhgari ehsan.akhg...@gmail.com mailto:ehsan.akhg...@gmail.com wrote: The other question is, what we're going to do about negative feedback from the API review phase but where

Re: Making proposal for API exposure official

2013-06-26 Thread Andrew Overholt
On 25/06/13 12:15 PM, Mounir Lamouri wrote: Note that at this time, we are specifically focusing on new JS APIs and not on CSS, WebGL, WebRTC, or other existing features/properties. I think the JS APIs here is unclear. I think saying Web APIs would be more appropriate, assuming this is what

Re: Making proposal for API exposure official

2013-06-26 Thread Andrew Overholt
On 26/06/13 11:48 AM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: On 2013-06-26 11:21 AM, Andrew Overholt wrote: On 24/06/13 05:52 PM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: There are two things that I think can use clarification. One is what we're going to do about trivial changes? Do all web facing features ned to go through this

Re: Making proposal for API exposure official

2013-06-26 Thread Brian Smith
Andrew Overholt wrote: On 25/06/13 10:11 AM, Brian Smith wrote: In the document, instead of creating a blacklist of web technologies to which the new policy would not apply (CSS, WebGL, WebRTC, etc.), please list the modules to which the policy would apply. I started building up a list

Re: Making proposal for API exposure official

2013-06-26 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
On 2013-06-26 12:08 PM, Andrew Overholt wrote: ship is too restrictive. If a feature is implemented and available in some version (even behind a flag) with a clear intent to ship it at some point, this should be enough for us to follow. I changed it to at least two other browser engines ship

Re: Making proposal for API exposure official

2013-06-26 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
On 2013-06-25 9:02 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: For new products, APIs that have not yet been embraced by other vendors or thoroughly discussed by standards bodies may be shipped only as a part of this product. Standardization must however start within X months after shipping initial version of the

Re: Making proposal for API exposure official

2013-06-26 Thread Gavin Sharp
The message you quote has a specific example - Mozillians who have experience designing JS APIs and will have at least one representative from the JS team at all times is probably not the best group to determine whether we should implement support for/ship SPDY, for example. I think it's clear the

Re: Making proposal for API exposure official

2013-06-26 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
On 2013-06-26 1:38 PM, Gavin Sharp wrote: The message you quote has a specific example - Mozillians who have experience designing JS APIs and will have at least one representative from the JS team at all times is probably not the best group to determine whether we should implement support

Re: Making proposal for API exposure official

2013-06-26 Thread Gavin Sharp
The scope of the current proposal is what's being debated; I don't think there's shared agreement that the scope should be detectable from web script. Gavin On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Ehsan Akhgari ehsan.akhg...@gmail.comwrote: On 2013-06-26 1:38 PM, Gavin Sharp wrote: The message

Re: Bugzilla Keyword Standardization Proposal

2013-06-26 Thread Milan Sreckovic
Hi Marc, I think this is good, and leads to more clarity than what we have today. I had to squint a bit to get all the information out of the page below, so it may be useful to be a bit more explicit as to what the things will look like in the document itself. A few examples would help as

Re: Making proposal for API exposure official

2013-06-26 Thread Patrick McManus
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Gavin Sharp ga...@gavinsharp.com wrote: The scope of the current proposal is what's being debated; I don't think there's shared agreement that the scope should be detectable from web script. Partially embedded in this discussion is the notion that the open

Re: Making proposal for API exposure official

2013-06-26 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 3:59 AM, Ehsan Akhgari ehsan.akhg...@gmail.comwrote: On 2013-06-26 9:09 AM, Robert O'Callahan wrote: If we think these use cases are (or ever will be) relevant, we need to give feedback even if we don't plan to implement them soon. We should at least try to make sure

Best way to make xpcshell provide consistent stack limits?

2013-06-26 Thread Andrew Sutherland
For B2G's gaia repository we are currently using xpcshell[1] as our command line JS runner. I was noticing some horrible inconsistencies in terms of blowing the JS stack when we were trying to use the esprima JS parser[2] that varied by the platform and build type. The nutshell is that the