Re: [DISCUSS] Revisiting Java 11's experimental status

2020-07-13 Thread Deepak Vohra
Jon, But Java 11 hasn't been tested in production. I would need to submit a patch for documentation if Java 11 is made recommended version.  Based on a recent survey the majority are still using Java 8, probably because it involves code review and update to migrate to a latter version.  "At

Re: [DISCUSS] Revisiting Java 11's experimental status

2020-07-13 Thread Elliott Sims
Personally, I'd planned to upgrade to 4.0 on JDK8 but only wait a few weeks before starting to update to JDK11 afterwards. Everything else we run's been updated to JDK11, so the Cassandra clusters are the odd one out at this point. On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 12:19 PM Jordan West wrote: > Thanks

[DISCUSS] Revisiting Java 11's experimental status

2020-07-13 Thread Jon Haddad
Support for Java 11 was added a long time ago, and it's been about 2 years since it was released (Sept 2018). Had we released Cassandra 4 close to that date, I'd be fine with keeping the status as experimental, but at this point I'm wondering if releasing a new major version of C* that's

Re: [DISCUSS] Revisiting Java 11's experimental status

2020-07-13 Thread Jordan West
Thanks for bringing this up Jon! My current thinking is we should officially support both 8 and 11. That increases the surface area we need to test but I think its hard to predict what different users will run given the current transition in the Java landscape. Jordan On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at

Re: [DISCUSS] Revisiting Java 11's experimental status

2020-07-13 Thread Mick Semb Wever
> To those of you planning on moving to 4.0 soon after it's release, are you > planning on deploying to JDK 11 or 8? Curious, what's the harm in leaving it in experimental until 4.1/4.0.x ? I thought we are emphasising putting in place a new precedence of Quality First. The age, or stability, of

Re: [DISCUSS] Revisiting Java 11's experimental status

2020-07-13 Thread Patrick McFadin
JDK8 seems like the safe devil we know, but in the interest of trying to gather a bit of data, I just posted a twitter poll. https://twitter.com/patrickmcfadin/status/1282791302065557504?s=21 On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 12:26 PM Elliott Sims wrote: > Personally, I'd planned to upgrade to 4.0 on

Re: [DISCUSS] Revisiting Java 11's experimental status

2020-07-13 Thread Sumanth Pasupuleti
We at Netflix have been testing 4.0 on Java 8, and we do not plan to use Java 11 yet for C*, since we are, and for the considerable future will be running Java 8 only in production. On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 2:41 PM Patrick McFadin wrote: > JDK8 seems like the safe devil we know, but in the

Re: [DISCUSS] Revisiting Java 11's experimental status

2020-07-13 Thread Jon Meredith
The majority of the testing that I'm doing and likely the people I work with day to day tests 4.0 on Java 11, so we should gain some experience over the next few months. On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 5:27 PM Sumanth Pasupuleti wrote: > > We at Netflix have been testing 4.0 on Java 8, and we do not

[DISCUSS] A point of view on Testing Cassandra

2020-07-13 Thread Joshua McKenzie
Link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ktuBWpD2NLurB9PUvmbwGgrXsgnyU58koOseZAfaFBQ/edit# Myself and a few other contributors are working with this point of view as our frame of where we're going to work on improving testing on the project. I figured it might be useful to foster collaboration

Re: [DISCUSS] A point of view on Testing Cassandra

2020-07-13 Thread sankalp kohli
Can you please allow comments on the doc so we can leave feedback. On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 2:16 PM Joshua McKenzie wrote: > Link: > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ktuBWpD2NLurB9PUvmbwGgrXsgnyU58koOseZAfaFBQ/edit# > > > Myself and a few other contributors are working with this point of

Re: [DISCUSS] Revisiting Java 11's experimental status

2020-07-13 Thread Joshua McKenzie
All the major linux vendors are supporting JDK8 LTS (like 2024+ or something) if I'm not mistaken, so I don't think there's a burning *need* to push for JDK11 support specifically in 4.0. To Mick's point, no reason why project folks that want JDK11 officially supported can't get started working on

Re: [DISCUSS] A point of view on Testing Cassandra

2020-07-13 Thread Joshua McKenzie
> > Can you please allow comments on the doc so we can leave feedback. > > Doc is view only; figured we could keep this to the ML. > That's a feature, not a bug. Happy to chat here or on slack w/anyone. This is a complex topic so long-form or high bandwidth communication is a better fit than

Re: [DISCUSS] Revisiting Java 11's experimental status

2020-07-13 Thread Jeff Jirsa
> On Jul 13, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Jon Haddad wrote: > > Support for Java 11 was added a long time ago, and it's been about 2 years > since it was released (Sept 2018). Had we released Cassandra 4 close to > that date, I'd be fine with keeping the status as experimental, but at this > point